Um, shall we play a game? I can't hear you, so I She said I'm a Moorish national. Do you know what that I don't know what that is. Are you the attorney? I don't know what she Oh, no, she's my counsel, myself. >> he going to give me 5 seconds. >> One. And he going to bust the window. >> Two. Three. Four. Five. That's obviously the reason why I stopped, but I don't know why you're getting so defensive. I'm just checking. I'm literally checking. I got I have to get home to my baby, man. I get it. I don't know why you're being so defensive, though. You are. You're jumping down my throat here. When all I was doing was checking up on you. I'm not jumping down your All right, man. All right. What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? Hey, man. Get off your phone. If you give me your name and date of birth, we'll get you going out of here, okay? >> Because of my tire, that's why you going to check my plate? >> If you just give us your name and date of birth, we can attach you to this cuz I'm out with you. As long as you come back clean, we'll let you go. I don't get what the problem is. But you had your flashers on. That's That's your hazard lights. Yeah, I know what it is. But you stopped in the middle of the road. >> not stop in the middle of the You stopped right here. Yes, because I have my hazards on. You're allowed to stop if you got your hazards on. And I'm allowed to stop to make sure you're okay. >> Yes, I'm okay. My tire went What's your name and date of birth, buddy? Hello. Taking you in for obstruction. The police stopped me. My tire went flat. And now they asking where my license is. Yeah, but the plate doesn't come back to anything. I don't understand like why they're giving me a hard time. You're giving me a hard time. >> not jump down your throat, and you got me on camera. I did not jump down your You did. I just asked your name and date of birth, buddy. That's all I wanted. All I think I said was I'm trying to get home to my baby. I can't hear you, so I don't know She said I'm a Moorish national. Do you know what that I don't know what that is. Tell him. Okay, we're just going to we're just going to tow your vehicle. You're just going to tow my vehicle? So, they just said they going to tow my vehicle. Really? Cuz you got a flat tire, you can't be driving it. The plates don't come back to anything. How about you just give me your name and date of birth? My name is Okay, what's your name and badge number? Officer Singletary, badge number 8070. Get your hands out of your pockets. All my hands ain't my hands ain't in my pockets. What's your status? What do you mean status? What do you talk We're not making a nationality thing about it. What nationality, man? I'm with the police department. >> We We are nationals Moors Americans. You know what that means? I'm not in no jurisdiction. You're in our jurisdiction. 562 my house right now. Do I have to have you come up here? We're coming out here it's not going to do anything, man. Yes, it is. No, it's not. I just had a representative for a case and now you're doing it. You want to tell her to get ready for another case? They said to tell you to get ready for another case. What's your badge number? Real 63. Sorry, write it down. Real 63. The hazards means if somebody follow the law >> The hazards mean that I can't stop you, okay? The hazards mean I can I can still jump out with you, buddy. You hurt my tire. So, if Yeah, that's why I'm making sure everything's okay. Making sure your car is able to be driven. How come your plates don't come back to anything? Do what now? How come your plates don't come back to anything? >> They don't. I ran them twice. But, I need to know who you are. You're about to be under arrest. Just tell me who you are. So, they said about to They said about to arrest I'm going I just told the officer here I'm trying to get her to my house. Huh? Is this the sergeant out here? I am, sergeant. Yeah. Okay, he's out here, sergeant. Look it up. Look it up. Hey, look. I work at the freaking So, so why aren't you giving your information? Because that's not why you stopped me. It's because I just Please, just hang up the phone. behind this vehicle. What's the cause of my commitment? Your vehicle's causing a hazard in the road, okay? Citing my >> So, so if you don't want to give your information and stuff, we'll just tow the vehicle. Okay, so now they said they going to take me to jail. Just identify yourself. Because I didn't identify myself, that's why. And then you're driving a motor vehicle. No, no, sir. I'm traveling. Book him. All right. All right. You guys got your back, buddy. All right. So, now they're booking me. Was this Was this all worth it? Huh? Is this worth it? This didn't It didn't have to go this way. >> know why you didn't identify yourself. That's all we needed from you. On my car. All right. I'm not doing anything wrong. Okay, we explained to you a million times. I am traveling for personal I was on the phone. I was the one on the phone and I heard Okay. everything that went on. Yeah. I was trying to figure out you guys got him as obstructing and failure to identify. >> That's correct. Yeah, his uh Fifth Amendment right he has. He does not have to identify. And then did you guys have a Fourth Amendment sworn warrant to search and seize him and his vehicle? Uh the vehicle was towed because it did not have valid plates. And it was uh obstructing the roadway with a flat tire. What actual crime was committed? Let me Let me Let me read this to you real quick. So, he was traveling for one and I would just like to know what is the crime for The crime that you're putting it as is for obstructing the roadway and >> Yeah. failure to identify. As I told you, he has >> He was obstruct- He was obstructing the roadway with his vehicle. The plates did not come back to the vehicle, so that's fictitious plates. I wouldn't say they were fictitious plates. >> They were They did not come back to the vehicle, which state which under the law You violated uh his Fourth Amendment right as well as his Fifth. He has a Fifth Amendment right, which I'm sure you're aware of cuz you took oath to it, right? The Constitution. >> Anything that Any questions you need about the law, you can speak to the You can talk to the uh attorney I don't need to speak with an attorney. I'll consult myself. >> No, no, no, our attorney. Yeah, your attorney. >> yeah. So, wait. So, he wasn't taken before a judge before you guys locked him up with this kidnapping, correct? >> No, not correct. >> wasn't Yeah, it is correct. You didn't take him before a judge. >> No, I took him to jail. >> you arrest Any time you arrest someone, they're supposed to go before a judge. >> He goes He goes before the judge tomorrow. Okay. All right. Well, thank you. Yeah, no problem. And then, see you in court. Yep. Ben, I got a warrant for your arrest. A warrant for my arrest? Yep. For what? Step out of the vehicle. For what? You didn't show up for court. I didn't show up for court? Yeah. Ben, step out of the vehicle. Step out of the vehicle for what? You got a warrant. What? My court date is not till January 18th. What do you mean? Step out of the vehicle or I'm going to force my way in there and get you out of there. Who's going to force their way in here? First of all, you're not running this show, mister. I am. No, you're not. >> You are obstructing. >> How are you How are you running this show? I'm the one that stopped you. For what? Because I got a warrant? First of all, these plates are expired. You didn't even come back to this vehicle. Because what? Those plates on the back of your car does not even come to this vehicle. >> to do with a warrant? You have a warrant. For what? And for where? For the charges that Officer Segalia had. See? You're not even listening. I can't hear. I'm not going to listen to your nonsense. Well, you know what? That's That's up to you if you don't want to listen. Okay, if you do not get out of the vehicle, I'm going to break this window and take you out. >> Okay, try it. So, I got I got it on video. You said you're going to break my window if I don't get out. If you break it out, that's on you, bud. Go ahead and break it out. What's the problem? He would not get out of the vehicle. He said break the window to get him out, so I was waiting for you to get here. This goes back to a Volvo. So, the same charges we dealt with in the past. We got him again. Mister You need to step out of the car, man, okay? >> For what? Because you have warrants. >> show me the paperwork that I have a warrant? Yes, I will. You have three additional warrants. For what? For failure to appear, for the fictitious, for the DUS, and what was the other one? Another one. >> Yeah, there's three of But there's three of them cuz you apparently missed court date. Plus, you're driving under suspension. And you're currently driving under suspension. Just don't make this any worse than it needs to be, dude. Well, I'm not trying to make anything worse. You're being non-compliant, okay? I'm not I'm not being non-compliant. Well, we're asking you to step out. It's a lawful order, but this is going to escalate and you're going to catch more charges, which are felony charges. You're not consenting to any power. I'm going to give you about 5 seconds to open the and we're going to bust your window out and we're going to drag you out of there. You said you're going to give me 5 seconds. 1 And you're going to [snorts] bust the window out. 2 3 4 5 Oh, yeah. I'm not even I'm not even resisting. I'm not I'm I'm I'm not resisting. I'm I'm not resisting at all. Man, that's a violation. Why would you try to do that? Have a seat. Can I get in the truck? Yeah, have a seat. >> How can I have a seat like that? I got to step in. Supposed to have a seat standing up. I can't. Wow. And you didn't adjust these cuffs. They are not adjusted, man. They're tight. >> I teach this I teach this class in the academy. Okay. All right. What does it say? It said arrest. Let me see the front page, too. I mean, did you see everything cuz This is the original. That's the copy. >> Let me see the front page. Let me read It's the same page. >> Okay, let don't get smart. I'm not getting SMART WITH YOU. READ IT AND THEN READ IT ALOUD. >> [screaming] >> I'M INSTRUCTING YOU GOING TO GO TO JAIL, TOO. YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO JAIL. YOU KEEP PLAYING CUZ YOU IT'S RIGHT HERE. IT'S RIGHT HERE. OKAY, LET ME READ IT. I DON'T see where IT SAYS ARREST. NOT BONDABLE. Must sit 20 days in jail. Okay, where's the arrest part at? This is a warrant for arrest. Open up. And you are Nick Zingel? Yes, ma'am. it up and you're going to be taken to see a judge right away, right? >> I'm going to take him to jail. He's going to see a judge in the morning. THIS IS HOW IT WORKS. It's going to work the same time as the same way as last time. >> which way was that? He goes to jail and then he sees the judge in the morning. Open the door. I'm opening it. Don't touch my door handle. I got it and he can get out. And do not use excessive force and I'm not playing with any of you. Open. Come on, Ben. Okay, he's coming. He's not. Quit reaching for [ __ ] QUIT REACHING. OPEN [screaming] THE DOOR. MAKE HIM STAND UP CUZ I'M NOT PLAYING. I can't make him DO ANYTHING. GET OUT THEN. Get out. Okay, he going to get out. I'm about to unlock the Yeah, I'm following him right now. And if you use excessive force, it's your ass. Okay, he got the door. Step out. Turn around, face the car. Okay, he is. Okay, and don't use excessive force cuz I'm watching your ass. Take my coat off. Now, Zingel, you know you are subjected to the lawsuit, right? And I hope you got your gun out. And I want YOUR BADGE NUMBERS NOW. Put it right there. Here, hand it to me. Hand it to me. Zingel. You want to go for obstruction? Yeah, I do. I know what obstruction is and I don't care what you say. She's under She's under arrest. WHAT IS THIS [ __ ] CAR I'M GETTING OUT. DUDE, GET OUT OF THE CAR, MAN. TURN AROUND. YOU GOT ME AND YOU I GOT IT. NO, DON'T YOU [ __ ] TOUCH ME. DON'T GRAB MY WRIST. CRAZY, BRO. ZINGEL, AND YOU JUST TOLD HIM to do that. You know what's up. for obstruction. NO, I DIDN'T OBSTRUCT [ __ ] WHAT DID SHE OBSTRUCT, ZINGEL? YOU KNEW [screaming] YOU WERE UNDER ARREST. She showed up IN A CAR TO PICK YOU UP and get you out of there. You're not out of here. Calm down. No, you calm down. All of this didn't need to happen tonight. No, I really don't know. >> you need to come out? I was Why did you even come in to GET ME? FOR ONE, I JUST PICKED HIM UP FROM WORK. WHAT Get more [ __ ] you were out there. You locked the door on me. I DID NOT LOCK THE DOOR in your face. My door is always locked, bro. Him. Off rip, he told me to come pick him up from work. I don't have to lie about [ __ ] I'm counselor. I have Actually have my card here in my pocket. I have to take your possessions. Why didn't you just come out? Why did you get your sister involved in this, man? Man, look, the the stuff that happened to me last week, dude, I was afraid he was going to do something to me. I'm not even lying. I wasn't even bothering nobody, and I was afraid that somebody was going to do something to me, man. >> I can get in the car, all right? Get back in the car. >> [clears throat] >> You got bigger fish. It's just something that happens, all right? I'm not I'm not I'm not insubordinate at all. Oh, can you get my window cuz I don't consent to my car being searched. They they don't have permission to search my car. Okay, get in the car. Let's clear one thing up first. When Shardae asked the officer what his nationality was and then said he didn't have one, that's the routine sovereign citizen Moorish catchphrase. Historically, Moor or even Moorish was never a nationality. It was a term Europeans used to describe Muslim populations from North Africa during the medieval period. Actual nationalities from that region today would be Moroccan, Algerian, or Mauritanian, tied to actual countries. The idea of a modern Moorish nationality simply does not exist [music] anywhere in any law. Go ahead, take a look at the map. Tell me where Moor is. Could you? All right, let's get started. December 20th, 2022, Ben Bay's traffic case filed in Norwalk court. And early filing started appearing in the docket as court scheduled proceeding. More filings, yes, that's very Moorish of them. January 18th, court bench trial. The court finds Ben Bay guilty and enters the convictions. And on April 20th, a second case appears in the docket, Shardae Bay, charged with obstruction, failure to comply, improper handling of a firearm in a motor vehicle. You hear that? And around the same time, Ben Bay is already attempting to move his case through higher courts, challenging the court's jurisdiction. And then on August 21st, Ben Bay fails to appear in court, [music] gets a warrant for his arrest. And on December 11th, 2023, the court addresses his motion to suppress and denies that motion. [music] And on January 26th, 2024, Ben Bay's case proceeds to another bench trial, where he's found guilty and sentenced to 180 days in jail, 150 days suspended, leaving 30 days to serve, and 2 years probation. And additional filings appeared in the record with UCC filings because reasons. And on March 6th, 2024, Ben Bay found guilty and sentenced for driving while suspended, and Ben and Shardae both filed appeals challenging court's jurisdiction and rulings. And the appellate court reviewed the filings and denied the appeal because no legal [music] basis for any of those claims. And the court further explained that the Moorish nationality claims have been repeatedly rejected by this and many other courts. February 19th, 2026, Shardae Bay's motion to suppress is denied. February 26th, 2026, Shardae Bay pleads guilty [music] and is sentenced to 180 days in jail, 160 suspended, and 2 years of probation. And the court has scheduled a review hearing for May 28th, 2026. Now, viewers keep asking the same question. Is Shardae Bay his sister, his wife, both, and sister wife? Because they do share the same last name, you know. Well, I've known my sister all my life. That is why she's now my [music] wife. And I think my son may know it's true. He's my nephew, too. Well, my daddy is my Uncle Joe. My mother is my dear Aunt Flo. So, it is very plain [music] to see, my first cousin is me. >> [music] [music] [music] >> If you enjoy these breakdowns of sovereign claims meeting legal reality, make sure to like, subscribe, and share the video. And a major thank you to every one of our channel members who help support the research and production of these episodes. [music] Your support helps keep this channel going, and I appreciate you. Sovereign citizen arguments often promise freedom from laws and regulations policy. But in courtrooms across the country, those claims are consistently tested against actual law and statutes. And the results are usually the same. 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