you you're detained this my fourth amendment okay you're in a van or the doors open in a parking lot in a high crime area you're investigation you're failing to identify yourself we're lawfully asking you for your name and birthday have I committ CRI refusing to identify yourself have I committed a crime have I committed a crime not yet that I know of you pulled me you put hands on me and pulled me out of my van yes but I haven't done nothing to you I wasn't even you weren listening to me it was for my safety for what crime and yours you got me in hand cuz I had not committed crime I because you wouldn't cooperate this video was recorded by my buddy over at Third Coast copat last night in Bowmont Texas the video Cuts in and out because the cops immediately steal his camera and continually try to turn it off eventually once they've got him in handcuffs they think the video is off it's still going it's a black screen but you get all the audio hey man step out of the car step out of the vehicle step out the car am I beain yes step out of the vehicle I'm going to P for walk over to the truck name B it's on my name tag you can't take my phone from my hand that's a fourth amendment issue there a fourth the M issue name and badge number what's your name sir name and bad number my name's officer Mullenix have I committed a crime I'm I'm investigating a susp community in the state of Texas I have committ CRI it's real simple man I'm asking you you're not is your body camera working yes it is working okay I'm going to get what is your name you don't know you don't know who you're messing with you don't okay what is your name sir have I committed a crime I don't know okay you don't get my name in the state of Texas unless I committed a crime it's my first amendment I'm sorry it's my it's my you you're detain this my fourth amendment okay you're in a van or the doors open in a parking lot in a high crime area where there's been this is not a high crime this is down the road it's the West no [ __ ] man talk are you going to let me talk you got me in hand CU I had not committed a crime because you wouldn't cooperate I have not committed a crime cooperate for what I do not have to help you are you failing to identify yourself we're lawfully asking you for your name and birthday have I committ refusing to identify yourself have I committed a crime are you refusing to identify yourself yes or no have I committed a crime are you refusing to identify yourself yes or no have I committed a crime will I go to jail if I don't identify myself that's up to the investigating officer right here what crime are you investigating I'm investigating a suspicious vehicle what crime like hey man like being suspicious a crime in the state of Texas when you're ready are you getting an idea who I am yet hey when you're ready for me to talk to you when hold on you keep asking me questions and you don't allow me to answer when you're ready for me to have a conversation with you I'd be glad to have a conversation with have I committed a crime not yet that I know of okay then you don't get my name unless I've committed a crime in the state of Texas you're lawfully detained we do being detained for what crime I didn't say you were being detained for Crime we're investigating you got to you can't detain you can't detain me in the state of Texas unless I committed a crime you got me in handcuffs on the side of the road I have you in handcuffs because you weren't cooperating cooperating with what I asked you you to step out of the vehicle for an investigation you said right what are you investigating you sit here with him for a second I need I need your name and badge number you have a card can I have your card would you not have badge number birthday stay right there Mr Thomson what's your birthday not your arm out of my van you do not have V you do not have permission to search my vehicle searching he's not searching it do you have a do you have a card no we don't carry cards I need your name lamb lamb officer lamb officer Lamb with above my Police Department that's what it says on side the truck can you spell that for me lamb L like the Sheep huh like the Sheep L&B okay so it's a crime to sit in a parking L with my door open is that right did I say it was a crime well you see you said that's why you investigate you keep asking questions and then you talk over me do you want me to answer your question do you want me to answer your question tell me that's why you're investigating me right do you want me to answer your question yes or no okay is it a crime to sit in my in the parking lot with my door open are you ready for me to answer go ahead okay no it's not a crime then why am I in hand all right so you're trespassing they don't want you on the property identify yourself okay now I need you no they didn't not come no no you have to give me an opportunity to leave that is not trespassing I was not given the opportunity to leave what's your name no there no that does not work that will not work you did not give me the opportunity to leave I have to give be given the opportunity to leave before I have to identify you run his plate offic lamb this is my first amendment I'm sorry it's my fourth amendment I was going to say you've been you've been free to speak this whole time sir yeah yeah that's my fourth amendment you don't you don't give my name if I haven't committed crime in state of Texas officer lamb I Willet I'm not officer lamb oh that's officer what's your name officer Mullen officer Mullenix yes sir you that I'm giving you I will put a complaint on you for this all right I do a lot of paper I put a complaint on you and I put a 1983 on your stupid ass don't mess with you man 97 of 83 you don't give my name you don't give none of that haven't committed a crime you pulled me you put hands on me and pulled me out of my van yes but I haven't done nothing to you I wasn't even you listening to me it was for my safety for what crime and yours it's not a lawful detainment it is a law no it's not a lawful detainment there was no crime committed there's no crime committed I didn't say there was a crime Comm supervisor call your supervisor I want you you got the C I want your supervisor here I want your supervisor call your supervisor I asked for a supervisor yeah you don't want to call your supervisor cuz you know you're messed up man I be released from these handcuffs since I haven't committed a crime when we're when we're done with this with this investigation with what investigating what crime I I tried to explain this to you and you keep talking again you keep talking Me O over me you hav committ if you would like for me to answer the question I'd be glad to answer it however I'd appreciate you to give me the respect to answer your question you got me in hand cuz what is that Mullenix you said your name is m okay your name m none of your business I haven't committed a crime okay you put my you put your hands on me and pull me out of that van they had done nothing wrong what's his name you RI that phone from my hand that's a fourth amendment that's Fourth Amendment you know you know yeah you know you messed up you know you messed up now you know you did where's your supervisor at I need a supervisor on scene we done yes no I need a supervisor now because you got me done you got me in handcuffs on the side of the road I have not committed no crime me you're on private property there was no crime committed I was not I was not a trp pass from anything this words that came in your mouth nobody came out here anything about trespassing one of y'all just said I was trespassing and Kroger wanted me Kroger wants you to leave they they never give me an opportunity to leave so there not trespassing you just going to pull somebody you don't do that you don't put your hands on somebody like that well if you would have listen how I asked you number I got I got some questions for y now how many Mexicans you shoot lately you got a problem shooting people in bu don't you there been three of them huh there three of what about the guy what about the guy you'all beat to jail about 8 months ago huh he thinks he's a lawyer does yeah but no I want to know I want to know I got some question by the way he's flagged for violent against law enforcement figured that flaged for violence against law enforcement did he get a return on uh wait for that flaged for violence against law enforcement yes what does that mean means you've been violent to law enforcement I've never had a history of any kind of violence I don't I'm just telling you what the and if if today is any indication of how you treated people in the past I I can imagine you're the only one who was violent you put you put your hands on me and pulled me out of vehicle and I told you if you don't step out of the vehicle I'm going to pull you out of the vehicle for what crime did you pull me out of I'm again I'm not going to talk to hey Robert can you talk to me and listen for a second I don't I just I just need cards you have cards with your name listen to me for Salam and mol I'm trying to explain why we're here okay you just you've already explained I have not committed a crime I don't need to I don't need will you let me explain okay goad explain explain cuz we let you talk all over us and you won't even let us tell you you got me in hand can you again you're talking again you're talking over me no you're not coming you have violent tendencies with law enforcement and we're trying to Con well well what crime have I committed that shows a have I don't know you committed a crime toing you're not all me to 10 or 15 times now but you keep talking over us so I have never Comm I never committed a violent crime towards law enforcement your flag flag what does that mean flag it just means someone where does FL had an encounter with you that was dangerous where does this flag come from comes from your interaction with law enforcement that's [ __ ] there is you you don't have a crime I've committ are you a law enforcement officer I don't have a crime are you a law enforcement officer yes or no it's a yes or no question answer your question then don't worry about what your flag does in our system that's sensitive you brought it up to my office you brought it up you just put your hands you just put your hands on me Reas you wouldn't come out of a vehicle it's an officer safety issue I don't have to come out was it for what psylvia versus men we can remove you from a vehicle on a lawful traffic stop Pennsylvania Pennsylvania versus says on a a stop Pennsylvania vers men on a lawful traffic stop identified myself it's not a lawful stop this isw I identified myself as a police officer with bont Police Department particular there one more in the vehicle how many passengers did I have in my vehicle did you see it doesn't have any did you see a weapon near me nothing none anything Pennsylvania versus men says if you have reasonable concern for your safety am I right I have reasonable concern for my safety [ __ ] unlock refuse to get out of a van that's got a lot C someone like you and you don't think we're going to be concerned for our that's hyped up aggressive all that and all we're trying to see is what is going on no you just are you the supervisor no she's not a supervisor I need a supervisor on scene I need a supervisor here I'm trying to cut you loose but I'm trying to explain why no because I haven't committed a crime I'm trying to explain to these gentlemen I haven't committed a crime they just RI me out of my van okay I haven't committed a crime they woke me up all right and they put their hand P me come to find they got me in handcuffs I had not committed a crime okay handcuff while you're detained but I'm I haven't detained for what crime is while I'm trying to explain to these two gentlemen yeah I didn't say you under arrest I haven't committed a crime I said you're detained detained for what for what can I answer you without you talking over no you just told me I haven't committed a crime can I answer you without you talking over me it's an unlawful detainment unlawful stuff you had no reason if Kroger wouldn't be gone all you have to do you have to tell me Kroger want you gone and give me an opportunity to leave you don't come and rip somebody out of the vehicle okay where did you go if someone is not cooperating yes we did sobody for what what you're more than welcome to complain you're more than welcome to go to IIA and complain on us oh I go to and complain I go to Atty General on you too good cool now what I'm trying to explain to you if you will quit talking over me maybe they exp for violence against CAU because I get caught fir that's what I do you ever think about that you see you see I know a little bit about what I'm talking about don't you you still understand what you're doing maybe you should take me maybe you should have take me out of these handcuffs because the longer you have me detained un TR to but you're not listening well we're talking about what about Rodriguez huh 2015 2016 who Rodriguez 2015 2016 you have no idea what I'm talking about no yeah you need you need to go back to your you cannot detain for anybody longer than 20 minutes on a l the Supreme Court speculated 20 minutes they they they they speculated 20 minutes oh it's been a while and it's unlawful stop this is all completely explain something to you so I can cut you loose well you'd have been cut loose a long time ago if you stop talk you gone probably get that body cam footage okay well you're the one that's keeping yourself and right right right now you have no detainment you have law that has been no crime that has been committed law violation list listen oh I'm sorry I didn't hush and listen so I can explain why you were detained do you want me to tell you why you were detained do you want me to these cops unlawfully detaining me right now because they're stupid do you want me to explain to you you want me to explain it to you are you going to talk over me again man just stop hollering at me what's wrong with you man then shut your mouth and listen for about 5 Seconds you have no authority over me right now Auto burglaries in this parking lot all the time the door was open to your car it could have been burglarized it could have been being burglarized we don't know if you return to that car we don't know anything they happen all the time in the car that's why you were detained well why don't you just ask me he I seen you here why don't you you a number of times to cooperate what's going on ask me but you don't has anybody called you and said and said the vehicle has been is being broken into up here no that has not happened so you have no you have no susic who would call you have no look around who would call I don't know who would call I don't know all these cars in the parking lot maybe we're asked to patrol these parking lots for suspicious vehic doesn't matter man you have to have a call did you get a he's clear he don't you going to you're going to push me against the hood to release me from handcuffs do you want me to get you out of these handcuffs yeah but I don't want you to push me against the hood last thing you want to do is beat me right now nobody wants to beat you no one wants to beat you oh that's what y'all do all we want you to do what about the guy in the in the county jail about eight months ago he was in the hand cuz y'all beating your police chief came out and said he supported his offic of the old police chief what you talking the old police chief said he came out and supported the officer sir so this is this is Officer crer wants you off the property so you need to exit the property immediately otherwise you're trespassing and you will go to jail offer Mullenix it's time for you to leave sir the proper immediately leave the property immediately you put me in handcuffs I was unlawfully detained I was putting handcuffs links are in the description to Third Coast cop watch's YouTube channel make sure to head over there and subscribe there's also links to contact the Bowmont police department and let them know what you think about this interaction