are you questioning whether or not it's state funded I didn't say that okay but you think you get to trespass me from it you're going to get perly trespassed today and what does that mean that you're not going to be allowed on the property and what if I come back then if you're still here we'll take you to jail if not you'll get sumon support you know qualified immunity has been abolished in New Mexico right yep so if you try to put your hands on me to arrest me for being on my property what would happen if I defended myself did I ever say I was going to put hands on well you said if I don't leave I'll be arrested I said you're getting a notice well what if I you told me if I don't leave I'll be arrested so who is going to be the man who's got the balls to illegally put their hands on me today why are you getting so mad I'm asking you a question that's you're so aggressive for no reason who who is going to put their hands on me I know that we'll get to that part whenever we and what happens if I defend myself what would happen if I defended myself hopefully we don't go down that route yeah hopefully huh hopefully you keep your hands to yourself right hey what's up everybody it's James Freeman and I am back out here at the Albuquerque Housing Authority the last time I was here was Friday they called the police to have me trespass because I mentioned that um The People's reviews on Google on this government entity weren't good and just because I mentioned that they called the police all men with guns to come and have me trespass so I'm back up here to do some open records requests and ask for an apology hey how you doing uh so I needed to meet with um Brian Egan and Christina Baker um I was told uh I was sent an email telling me to come in cuz apparently they were going to issue me an inperson apology for the way they treated me last weekend um that's just an email that I received so it was Ryan Egan and Christina Baker and then I just need to do some open records requests um so I don't know if uh if you guys have a records Clerk here or if I go somewhere else for that you want me to sit over there so you can help the next person or yeah please okay all right thank you sir over there okay all right sit on that chair right over there you see that chair yeah yeah go sit in that chair okay what yeah that means now okay I I need to help other people right now okay excuse me I need to help other people right now okay really you got other other people that are that are actually clients okay really over there yeah that's how you're going to act yeah they they sent me an email asking me to come in St I hey I've got some records requests to give you ma'am Christie can I please give you these open records requests ma'am you by state law you've got to accept them right here and now by state law it does so where's your attorney not talking to you he's not talking to me so just like almost every other government entity they want you to even jump through hoops to give them open records requests when by state law you can write it on your own piece of paper and you could submit it to any government employee or entity and if they are not the holder of the records they're supposed to forward it to the person that is the holder of the records I specifically asked for the records Clerk so that I could hand them to them or I can hand them to somebody here to hand them to the records Clerk LK um but as you can see Christy Baker is really really nasty please do not Christie I need you to take these open records request you've been served they're right there on the floor Christie's our process right there your process doesn't obey the law I will personally sue you when you don't fill it you've been served they're right there christe you've been served for sir hey how's it going we need to talk to you what's that we're going to talk to you how come huh why get criminally trespass in this you sure yes all right go ahead and do it write it up are you guys trespassing me from here for trying to do records requests with you sir but anyway um are you trespassing me for trying to do records requests with you so Albuquerque police are here to trespass me for doing records requests with them got a card on you yes sir can I get it please so what's the reason for the trespass we don't want you on the property no more do you understand how this works I'm here to do official government business with them right here to do open records requests which I have a right to do which by state law I'm required to come in in person as their own policy and as the law says and hand them the open records request you understand that okay that's my right as a citizen to do so you understand that and they want me trespassed because I did that did they tell you why they want me trespassed they want you trespassed do you have a reason to trespass me from public property that I pay for this is public property yeah it is this is state funded 100% state funded my my funding right been working my ass off what do you mean if I say so if you say so what do you mean are you questioning whether or not it's state funded I didn't say that okay but you think you get to trespass me from it you're going to get criminally trespassed today and what does that mean that you're not going to be allowed on the property and what if I come back then if you're still here we'll take you to jail if not you'll get Summon support so if I don't leave I will go to jail is that right today you're just getting a notice a notice and you're not allowed back on the property okay so that means I'm not allowed to come back and do open records requests or do my official business with them is that right I'm not too sure on that part is this a sergeant right here no this is another offic all right before you do anything stupid uh what's your name I'm officer Daniel Tenon officer Daniel Tenon why don't you get your supervisor out here to help you does that sound good Mr tenna I mean if you want to do what you want to do go ahead but um you know qualified immunity has been abolished in New Mexico right yep so if you try to put your hands on me to arrest me for being on my property what would happen if I defended myself did I ever say I was going to hands on well you said if I don't leave I'll be arrested I said you're getting a notice well what if I you told me if I don't leave I'll be arrested so who is going to be the man who's got the balls to illegally put their hands on me today why are you getting so mad right I'm asking you a question that's you're so aggressive for no reason who who is going to put their hands on me I know that we'll get to that part whenever we and what happens if I defend myself what would happen if I defended myself yourself hopefully we don't go down that route yeah hopefully huh hopefully you keep your hands to yourself right you to well I would never initiate Force against you is your supervisor on the way I think so got him all right thanks sir can I grab your name real quick boss you're he's talking to me sure how's your day going so far man it was good until they just wouldn't take my damn records request you know should have been here for 20 minutes and it been out so what is that cuz I don't know what you're talking about can you inform me so uh I'm conducting an investigation on this department as well as the Albuquerque code enforcement um as a journalist what's going on is that the Albuquerque code enforcement is deeming people's properties unfit to live in they're going in they're locking people out of their own properties and then telling them that's okay though you don't need to be self-sufficient come over here to the housing authority and live off the government so the essentially the government is taking away people's houses and saying don't worry we'll give you free housing though at at the expense of all the other taxpayers I'm doing a story man all right I'm doing a story on government corruption and how deep it really goes they don't want me here because they know that the story doesn't make them look good from the moment that I showed up I I was here last week on Friday okay totally polite totally I mean quiet as heck you know you can watch my live stream I'm in there whispering to my live stream to make sure that I don't disrupt anyone or anything that I just conduct my business they have come out and been so nasty to me quite frankly man at this point I am upset I'm annoyed I'm upset I'm pissed off that I come to do business that I'm legally and lawfully allowed to do and they call guys with guns how would you feel I mean how do you think they would feel if the next time I come out here I called a militia that's heavily armed to come out here and do my paperwork business with me that doesn't look good right that would look really threatening and quite literally what they've done now is they've called their militia you I came to do paperwork man right and they called guys with guns to come and threaten me that if I don't leave they're going to take me to jail yeah there's some frustration here right yeah I can understand from where you're coming bro and reasonably so cuz I'll tell you what man if I showed up with with a couple two or three guys with with guns on them said all right now let's do business I would expect that they would feel threatened and intimidated right and I wouldn't I wouldn't do that but they did they just did so yeah I'm I'm annoyed I'm a little I'm a little agitated about that you know what was your name by chance I don't I forgot it uh I'll tell you what what was your name I'm officer Daniel tenno okay I'm I'm Mr Freeman Mr Freeman yeah that's what I go by that's what I go by it's not a real name so the first time that they decided they wanted to trespass me last week on Friday I was sitting there you know filling out my papers and stuff and this woman uh I think I dropped her card in the car oh Christy Baker she came out and said hey you know what can I do for you she answered some questions but she told me hey you can't record though okay you know I can right record people in a public setting for that it's kind of tricky on the recording part is it yeah all right go on uh let me know then tell me how that goes so it's like let me let me turn this way so that I can get can we turn this way cuz the my phones are going to overheat I want them in the shade is that all right the sun's going to make my phone overheat so it's kind of like you can record in a public setting but then if you do record people you also have to have their consent oh really yeah okay and is that in the state of New Mexico the or is that a US law is that a New Mexico law I would have to I'm sorry hold on wait till that car goes by so I'd have to relook at it that's kind of like kind of what I kind of know about it I'm not too like 100% but that's kind of what I've been told that if you record you can record in a public place but if you want to get like actual people's faces like faces and stuff to get their books at okay from what I've heard I have to look at it to make sure that okay because it's really not a big deal all I was doing while I was in there doing my business is I had the camera on so that any employees that work there that walk by their faces are caught on the camera so that I can run it through an AI system uh to to find out who they are that's all it is it's not a big deal right I'm just kidding dude there's not there's I don't know that's what government does to us man that's that's good though huh that that'd probably piss some people off wouldn't it probably yeah that's what government does to us but turnab about turnout wouldn't be fair play would it I'm not too sure how that works in the first place so okay about Ai and stuff like that but no um just to let you know yeah you can definitely record in a public place uh if it's publicly accessible you can record there um now private businesses could kick you out if I go in McDonald's and I want to record in McDonald's that's a private business they can trespass me government funded entities like this government doesn't get to trespass you just cuz you're documenting we're supposed to be able to go in and document all of our interactions with our public servants it just it doesn't just you I'm sure you know it applies to police right that we can record you in your official Duty and your official capacity at any time right yes sir well it applies to them too so long as it's in a publicly accessible area right so now if I were to kick in those uh secured doors bust them open I mean I can't record past there but then really the issue isn't that I'm recording is that I'm I'm breaking and entering right yes so have you gone through like the system or like how do you no no I get I I'm doing a story on the corruption so I got tips from a bunch of people who have been a good handful of people that have been ejected from their homes and then uh self-sufficient I mean they were crappy homes but I mean one of them specifically the only problem was that the city is starting to tell people that they have to be on the city gas line and if you don't have the city gas running to your home you're not up to code and you're not allowed to live in your house so there's people who are using like electric heat right and they're saying no no no you can't do that you have to have a gas line hooked up if the gas line isn't hooked up they're going to come the city come and evict you from the home that you own kick you out and if you start coming in I I haven't supposed to go down tomorrow and document some of these homes but I've been told that and I don't know whether it's true or not but I've been told that the code enforcement guys will go in if you keep trying to go back to your home that they'll go in and Destroy things in there like smash your toilets and basically make it actually unlivable now whether or not that's true I do not know yet but that's part of what you know my investigation is and that's why they don't want me investigating and that's why they want me trespassed make sense a little bit a little bit of a catch up but trying to get there was it an officer that came to talk to you on Friday three of them did yeah and and the sergeant came to let the officers know you cannot trespass him from public property for doing the business that he's doing here um oh my God I can't believe I forgot his name was it Garcia um Sergeant which one okay did he did he tell you to just move on or no I mean he told me so what's your purpose are you obtaining services from this business yeah I was here to do some public records requests um and uh they they were refusing to take them so I sat there and waited for them to take them I was actually on my way out of here when you guys showed up oh yeah you were giving them paper like yeah yeah yeah I was doing records requests through them and and you can here let me show you they gave me a document too let me set this down now I know how the public records law works anyways but they were trying to tell me no we're not going to take your records request so I was on the phone with my attorney you know trying to figure out hey what are we going to do from here um they said well you know they've got to take them I mean that's not an option right but so they said well here's our policy their policy literally says so they're saying we're not going to take your records request because you're not abiding by the policy the policy literally literally says I come in I write the records request and I hand it to them right so they're they're just being obnoxious is what's going on and they want me trespass because I'm doing a story on them that that makes them not look good so I came to do some records requests for the number of people that they've had trespassed illegally from this property um because I've heard that they do this quite a bit to people that you know you're you're to bow to their every desire or they're going to trespass you and that's just not the way it works with a public entity does that make sense all right now you missed your jean do they think that were you were trespass before is that true or no no absolutely not the uh the officers came out on Friday and they told them that they cannot trespass me from public property while I'm doing my public business my official business so and what's your name I didn't I didn't give it what's so you're not going to give it um I mean unless it's under threat of violence not Mr Springer James Allan not sure you were here to get some records that's right and they refused to give them to you well they refused to take the papers so I just sat there until so what I did too is they want to cause a commotion so that they've got a so that they can call you guys and so since I knew they were going to do that I was live when I was doing it I told I told the live stream I'm there was three other people in there doing business so I said I'm just going to sit over in the corner and quietly talk to the live stream so these other three people leave because I know they're going to C the the employees are going to cause a disturbance right and so I went up to the window to try to hand them my records requests they said no we're not going to take them um so there was no threats or anything like that no of course not man of course not what about a voicemail you're saying about a voicemail that you left like a really aggressive voicemail I have never left any voicemails with them no I've got a large audience as a matter of fact there's 2,192 people watching right now could one of those uh so on on uh the other video that was watched the other day it was only up for an hour and 10,000 people saw it could one of those 10,000 people have left some kind of voicemail could have by all means investigate that if somebody committed a crime right but I have not and so I I'll just let you know right now if you're if you're going to illegally trespass me we're going to see in we're going to have to deal with it in a legal way does that make sense don't take it as a threat but we're going to deal with it in a legal way 1729 Gerard somebody in the chat just said I did LOL stand in the shade just kind of sure man you look pale skinned it's hot I I forgot my sunscreen today oh okay so now they're lying now they're lying and saying that I made threats I didn't find out toat cust people and like that made a phone call that was threaten somebody so what is it about he was trying to obtain some Rec or something that I don't know any we can talk freely it's not I mean his his body cam is going to end up being public anyway so it's not like anything you do or say is going to be a secret everything you lie about everything you do and say can and will be used against you in a court of law sir why why can't why couldn't you guys just communicate with me I mean I came in here to to do some simple paperwork and requests with you why can't you just you know I've been polite to all of your employees until they've been nasty to me why can't we just do our business and move on sir [Music] hey I'm James Hey sir I'm James see I mean they've been giving me the cold shoulder so this is what your tax dollars are paying for guys and I just did an open request for his name and salary and we're going to I mean this this is exactly what the problem is you know this is why I was sent obviously why I was sent to investigate these people I had no pre preconceived notions you guys saw my first uh interaction here but this is how people treat you when they get to take your money by force and absolutely no respect for the public that they swore to serve you you know and he's laughing he's laughing now he's smirking he's smirking about it he thinks it's funny the recording of when you first walked in it's uh it's live I can get you a link to it sure able to go back to oh yeah this is why I record you know one of the things they were upset about is that I was recording but if I didn't record it would be my word against theirs right mhm it's good thing I recorded otherwise they could say I came in there and said I was going to I mean God knows what right let your imagination run wild there so it's Albuquerque Police that are out here uh and I think that they just misunderstand what's going on and really they're just going off of what this guy is saying and this guy is a liar uh I mean he can't even show his face he's he's standing here with his back to us giving us the cold shoulder and and laughing about it remember what day was it FR contacted yeah Friday yeah it's going to be published tomorrow morning uh 11:00 a.m. the full video it's already set yeah from Friday I think it was I'm thinking Garcia maybe the chat can help me out Sergeant Garcia that came out Garcia I think it was him and he told them specifically that they can't trespass me so the fact that they tried to do it again I mean they know what they're doing hey you guys got water I got a whole case in the trunk you need a bottle let me grab you I think they're trying to do what's right here too they' just they've been lied to and manipulated by the people in this building and at this point you know at first they weren't going to question it but at this point I think they're doing their due diligence to try to make sure that they do the right thing so it's and it's not their fault it really is unfortunate these people were told no you can't trespass him for trying to do business here and they called again hoping they'd get different cops who didn't know the law so I mean it's just manipulation tactics by the people who are working here so you said last Friday correct those three officers that came out yeah you said one of them was a sergeant right yeah on our end it just shows those that four officers came out but I don't think any of them were Sergeant I don't know if the sergeant put on there that he came out because I think what he did is I think he came out to deescalate he told me he told me he saw the name on the thing and so he came he told me specifically I I came out cuz I I knew it was you so I came out just to say hi and make sure that the officers knew they couldn't trespass you okay so I maybe he didn't even put himself on the call cuz then after he talked with me he gave me his card as a matter of fact I might I might even still have it cuz he gave me the car he gave me the cad uh his card he gave me the cad number there it is no that's yours no that's mine he said yeah I saw on the thing that it was used so I just wanted to make sure everybody wanted to come out and make sure everybody knew what was going on and and he educated the employees and and like I said what they've done now is they're trying to figure they're trying to find a cop who's ignorant is what they're doing they're trying to manipul they're trying to use youh cuz after you write that trespass unfortunately I mean you're the one who gets drug in court not them right um for what I know most of the part just notices I mean unless they come back that's when we do go to court just CT notices it's just giving you a notice not to come back to the property but I can assure you I'll come back so we would be in court like even if you gave me the notice you would end up getting notice from my attorneys then we from there sounds like it is a bigger picture than what they're telling yeah so we're just trying to figure it out what's going on at this point and as you know I dude I am frustrated as hell with it but besides that I am done here today too but I'm I'm staying here to make sure to establ because I got to come back another time it'll probably be next week sometime after I've got my records requests filled and I can figure out where to go from there um and so I need to be here to make sure to establish no I will be back I will definitely be back so if I run away today it's I mean it's not we might as well hash it out right now right these are people too that say that they back the blue and they're literally trying to manipulate and throw you under the bus and get you sued knowing D they know they've T I mean I've talked they had their attorney get involved so they know they're not actually ignorant they're just pretend to be well I'm sorry I was frustrated then you know I just like it's understandable everybody see how frustrating it could be if you're trying to get something but they just keep putting it off or putting Road Blocks mhm let me go check out what these guys are doing over here so I'll be with you one second yeah sure no problem thanks man so they're going to do what they're supposed to do and that is if you want privacy you create privacy rather than tell me I can't be here um but the body cam is on so the interaction is recorded and the interaction will be published so we'll get to see how much this guy lies I just don't understand you know these are all government officials they're all talking about um stuff that's uh a matter of public interest it's all being recorded I don't understand why they wouldn't just let me stand here and record them you know the record it's it's going to be published no matter what whether it's published today or it's published two weeks from now it's all being published so now I'm going to be late again to my next appointment what time is it about to be 3:30 yeah we could wrap this up quick I do have another appointment to get to I just want to make sure that the next time I come back you don't have to come back too and waste your time as well so am I detained here or can I take off well I'd want to uh I want to also but like I said I do have other appointments to get to and I told you I want this resolved right here and right now you know so we can figure out whether we need to go to court or if we're done right yeah um and that's what I would prefer but also I have other appointments to get to so am I detained let me um cuz my sergeant and my partner just walked in there I don't know what they're doing you want to just radio to them and let them know I've got other appointments to get to Let's uh are we detaining this this uh free S free individual illegally or is he free to go and then I can give you a phone number and you can reach out to me as soon as you guys are done I'll give you all my contact info all right man well I'm going to I'm going to get out of here then I'm not detained and uh do you want a phone number for me so you can call me soon as you're done here let me know what we're going to do um let me try again so am I detained then or he's free to leave or just doing our investigation you're free to go okay great can I get your number just in case so I I'd love for you to follow up with me yeah like I said I don't I wanted this resolved now that I've established that I can go should I stay or should I go and uh sit here and write up a write up one more open records request hello sir hey what's up did you have you said you wanted to talk to I just wanted to make sure that everything was cleared up and that they weren't going to be trying to have me trespassed for coming and doing I request I'm going to issue a criminal trespass coming to a public records or the public housing building to request things so I understand that you had an I request that you gave to them so they're processing your request great it takes 30 days or more that's pretty standard for so yeah they've got to respond within 3 days and then they've got uh yes they gave the paper they stamped it they gave the prer work to to the legal for the housing department and they will give you a response in right okay can I get a copy of it um response W no no no just a copy of the the request that I submitted oh that I mean most government entities do it I don't think they're required to by law and so if they're not going to honestly you already have the request on your computer why do you need a c I don't have it I wrote I wrote it oh you wrote it on so and and I'm not going to push it again you know they've just been nasty to me since I came in so if they're going to say no I mean that's it I'll leave she said they're going to email you that they gotest okay and there'll probably be a copy on the email okay I mean I've got it on camera too it's just usually when I write them usually most people are kind enough to give me a copy but anyways cool yeah um do you have any other questions uh no so they won't be calling anymore to have me trespass from here for doing business with them right now the Whooves everyone to be courteous when they're talking to people and and trying to work with folks all right thank you sir over there okay all right sit on that chair right over there you see that chair yeah yeah go ahead sit in that chair okay what yeah that means now you know they also got a number of phone calls I just want to tell you that they got a number of phone calls from some of some people who are not very nice to some of the staff which I think doesn't help things um but you cuz in the end your request is being processed appropriate manner so is that what it took though to get a request you know is for the police okay um now I guess you know people get scared or emotional and so they requested the police to possibly look into a trespass but there is no trespass at this point in time okay so we're going to go back to work okay can I request one other thing I saw that you printed out a trespass so when I come back here in a couple of weeks my concern is is that going to be in the computer and when because they were told on Friday that they can't do this they there's just nothing new to them okay and so when they called you they were trying to find a stupid I came and I along with the officers did the best investigation we could great and I appreciate we're we're not trespassing anybody right okay but I do want to make sure that because I saw you print one off we are going to write a report about our investigation today okay in reference to whatever happened uhhuh and that's it okay but like I said so for you sir you did print a trespass off is that in the computer then is that going to be in the system that's all I'm trying to clarify is that there isn't some clerical accidental clerical error when I come back back in a week or two that says oh you were trespassed no no okay did you have any further questions um I did but now I forgot it all right have a good day thank you a shoot how much time do we have left a I got two minutes I don't have enough time I need to do he's saying that people uh left voicemails so I'm going to have to I I got to do a request for those voicemails but I only got 2 minutes until they close and so hey ma'am I just got one more request to give ma'am my supervisor hold on sure thank you intentionally trying to ignore me so I'm just going to leave that there but there you go you guys see it there you go and we're out that's the second time they've called people with guns to come and Bully and intimidate me because I tried to do business with them I'll publish the body cam footage as soon as it's available so that you can see all the lies that these public employees told to the police I will then attempt to pursue criminal charges against those who made false police reports what do you guys think the chances are that the government will charge the government for their crimes