I don't know what your problem is. My problem is is what? I'm clear, right? I've lived here my entire life. I want your name, your card. It's Billy White. My badge number is 429. Cuz there'll be a complaint filed. I guarantee you. You know what? If you're going to file a complaint, we'll just charge you. Stay in there. Charge. We'll give you something. We'll give you something to file a complaint on. He's going to run his mouth and want to file a complaint. I'll give him something to file his complaint on. You can You can go to the station and bond him out. All I was trying to do is get being aggressive. That's what he was. He was aggressive. And that's what that's what got me. Wouldn't Wouldn't you have to be if you got a guy that's not listening and you got the potential? I don't have to listen to you just cuz you got a badge on, though. You know that, right? I'm quite aware. March 3rd, 2020, Centriia, Illinois. Mr. Flanigan and his daughter are driving home when they notice a man laying on the ground near some railroad tracks. Like the good, decent human beings that they are, they pull over to see what they can do to help. Mr. Flanigan approaches the man laying on the ground to speak with him while his daughter dials 911 to get medical help. Unfortunately, in the US, you usually can't just get medical help without having police also show up to make things worse. That's exactly what happened here. I don't know what happened. We was driving by. The man's laying here. He says somebody hit him with a car. He's obviously been drinking, but he needs some help. So, I didn't want to leave until somebody got here. I appreciate you. And when you came here, you didn't see anybody else around. You know what? There was a white vehicle on the tracks, and I think they saw him about the same time we did. They went on, but you didn't see a vehicle around or anything like that. Okay. But his head's all busted up. Why don't you guys go ahead and pull up to give room for the ambulance? I don't know what go on. We just wait. Well, I need your information real quick. What information? Just your information real quick. Give me one second. Can you just pull the vehicle UP FOR A SECOND? It's not my car. Jesus Christ. Give me your IDs and I'll run it now. Everybody's going to make [ __ ] rocket science. You got your ID on you? It's not my car. You have your ID on you? No, I do not. Why are you yelling at me whenever I'm Because you're not listen. You're not listening. I'm trying to get the ambulance here so we can get off the railroad track. We're going home. I need your ID. I don't have an ID. What's your name? I'm not giving it to you. I'm going to put your hands behind your back. I'm going to arrest you. God damn. Let's make everything [ __ ] difficult, please. You want to go sit in the county JAIL BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE AN IDIOT. I don't have an ID on me. JUST LIKE NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE ME YOUR NAME. SO, you said arrest you. So, good lord. Let's make [ __ ] difficult. Makes sense. I want to see your supervisor. Put him Put him in your car. Pat him down and put him in your car. Chapter 38, section 107-14 of the Illinois Penal Code says that an officer can detain and ID someone if the officer reasonably infers from the circumstances that the person is committing, is about to commit, or has committed an offense as defined in section 102-15, or in other words, the person has committed a crime. This is very similar to almost every ID law across the entire United States. There is absolutely no such thing as a stop and ID state. In order for you to legally be required to give an ID to a police officer, they have to have reasonable articulable suspicion that you have committed a crime, are committing a crime, or are about to commit a crime. This has been talked about on my channel and hundreds of others in thousands of videos across the United States over the last decade. At this point, almost every citizen across the US understands this basic concept that they do not have to give ID unless suspected of a crime. Yet, we continue to see police officers day after day who have refused to comprehend this. Why do police continually get it wrong? Because they're not accountable for their own actions. There's this little thing called qualified immunity that says that if the officer didn't know that he was wrong, then he's not responsible for his own actions. Therefore, ignorance, even if it's intentional, is an excuse for police. HAVE I COMMITTED A CRIME? YES, YOU HAVE. OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE. [Applause] Pat him down and put him in your car. I want to see your supervisor. Have I committed a crime? Yes, you have. [ __ ] How is that when I called to get this guy some help? That's all I did was call to get help. Now, while Officer Billy White is the star of this show, throwing a tempered tantrum over not getting ID, let's not overlook the actions of this second officer. I recently got to listen in on a deposition where a chief of police ordered his police officer to arrest someone. The officer who actually made the arrest ended up being named on a lawsuit for simply following orders and making an arrest. In deposition, the attorney asked the order follower why he arrested his client. The officer replied that he did it because he was told to. The attorney asked the officer if he personally had any probable cause to make an arrest. The officer replied, "No." The attorney asked him who taught him that it's okay to arrest people without probable cause. He told the attorney that he believed that the guy that told him to make the arrest had probable cause. The attorney asked the officer if he asked what the probable cause was. The response was no. The court stripped the officer's qualified immunity because he had made an arrest without probable cause. Let's not pretend that just following orders is okay. This secondary officer is just as much at fault for this unlawful arrest as the first officer. I did nothing. You got anything in your pocket? I got my cigarette. I got my pajama pants on, man. We just saw the guy laying in the road. [Applause] If I have been suspected of a crime, I know about this guy in the road. Yeah. I mean, we're just trying to help. All right. And the guy's yelling at me. That's what's matter with the police force nowadays, man. Well, let's get this fig get this figured out. And I did absolutely nothing but called to help this guy out. And I'm sitting here in cuffs. That's all I did. Well, what happened? What happened there? I don't know. We pulled up and the guy's laying in the middle of the road. So, we called 911 asking me for ID, which I told him I do not have. And I haven't been I haven't been suspected of committing a crime. What's your name? It's Aaron. Okay. But there's absolutely no reason to ID me when I haven't done anything. I'm just trying to help a guy. Um, whenever you called about it, did you I didn't even call. Oh, the daughter called. I was out there with the man down. They didn't just first. I'm sitting in cuffs because your guy's an [ __ ] I want your supervisor out here, by the way. Get your He's out here. All right. Go ahead. That's why people record this stuff. You know that, right? You're breaking my constitutional rights by arresting me for committing no crime. I wasn't impeding an investigation. All right. Well, I don't know what was going on there. So, nothing. I I call We called to get the guy some help and I'm in cuffs. All right. Well, let me go talk to them and hopefully we'll be able to get you out of here. Okay. Aaron W. There you go. That's me for you in a moment. Your guy just being an [ __ ] Aaron, listen. If you want to see [ __ ] I'll send you to the county jail. I'm asking the operation. God damn. Who is this guy to you, ma'am? Who is he to you? He's my dad. Why is he acting like this when I'm trying to get people off the railroad tracks for safety reasons? I'm sorry. I just need to know who we are. That's all I'm doing. I just asking him for his name and he don't want to give it to me. You were just trying to get this man. Ma'am, I appreciate that, but at the same time, why cause one problem when we're trying to fix another? You know what I'm saying? So, Trey, copy 28 of a witness. [Applause] No, I I got a call down there. [Applause] Aaron, wait. Wait. Aaron, listen. If you want to see [ __ ] I'll send you to the county jail. I'm asking for your cooperation here. For what? I'VE GOT SQUAD CARS ON RAILROAD TRACKS I'M TRYING TO GET THEM OFF OF BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN. I'm asking for your cooperation and you don't want to give it to me. All my cooperation was calling and getting this man some help. Okay. So, we're going to CAUSE ANOTHER PROBLEM BY NOT CLEARING THE RAILROAD TRACKS. I'm asking you to pull forward. My car and then I'm asking for your name so you guys can get out of here so we can for no reason at all. For no reason. That makes that makes sense. [ __ ] stupid. [Music] [Applause] This guy just wants to be a [ __ ] idiot. Now, while parking on the railroad tracks would be really, really stupid, so it is something cops would do, none of them did. At no point ever was there a vehicle on the railroad tracks. Officer Billy White was never mad about anything except that this guy wouldn't give his ID. It never had anything to do with trying to get cars off of railroad tracks that were never on railroad tracks. He leaves his body camera muted for about 3 to four minutes while he throws a temper tantrum. Hit your unlocks on your car. [Applause] Aaron, I don't know why you'd want to go do a good deed and not help me try to just get everybody out of here in a safe area. You started yelling at me with a bad deal right off the bat. So, apparently you don't know what it's like to do this job. I don't don't want to. I get that, but I'm I'm trying to I'm trying to make it safe for everybody showing up here so we're not on railroad tracks. You need to get the chip off your shoulder, pal. There's no reason to be rude. Oh, no. Listen, time can kill somebody. You understand that? I'm not mad. Why are you Time I'm not mad. Why you keep yelling at me, though? Time I'm not yelling. Not right now. Time can kill somebody. The matter of seconds can kill somebody. I have no idea what happened to him. No more than you do. I understand that. I am trying to get people off the railroad tracks and I'm trying to go home. I just have to help the guy. Then just help me get to the [ __ ] into I owe you anything. I don't know what your problem is. My problem is I'm clear, right? I've lived here my entire life. I want your name, your card. It's Billy White. My badge number is 429. There'll be a complaint filed. I guarantee you. You know what? If you're going to file a complaint, we'll just charge you. Stay in there. We'll give you something. We'll give you something to file a complaint on. transport this one to the station. He's going to run his mouth and want to follow a complaint. I'll give him something to follow his complaint on. You can you can go to the station and bond him out. A damn. I really don't know why Officer White had somebody else transport his victim rather than transporting the victim himself. But I also don't know how there can be so many officers on scene and not a single one of them step up and say, "Hey, no, this is illegal. It's unlawful. I'm not going to participate in it. I'm not going to allow it." I'm always told that there's one or two bad apples and that the rest of cops are just good guys doing their jobs. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something here. If someone can point out the good cop to me in this situation who stands up and stops the illegal activity, please by all means do it. It's not your fault, pal. I'm not mad at you. I just actually got angry because he was yelling at me for no reason at all. I'm just trying to help somebody. I'm clear. I'm valid. I got nothing against me and I've been here all my life in central Illinois. Same house for 20 years, pal. But I don't have to put up with somebody yelling at me when I'm trying to help somebody. And that's what it amounts to. He got aggressive with me. He's yelling. He's demanding things. And I don't have to give him anything. I've committed no crime here. Can you get fire now? So take me to the police station. What you going to charge me with? What crime is he charging me with? Do you know? Um, I I don't know yet. That's cuz there was no crime, pal. You know that. And right there, the secondary officer admits that he has no probable cause to make an arrest. The man said he was going to arrest me. I put my hands behind my back, right? No resistance. No crime committed. No. When a cop ask you your name, you have to tell them. Lawful order. No, it's a state law. I gave you a lawful order. Stand over here. No, sir. The law is in black and white and it says that you can only get his ID if you suspect him of a crime. You'd think after 22 years in law enforcement, you might know this. I want to see the state code where said I my name if I'm not. It's a state law. Everything I'm saying is recorded. It's a state law. Yes. All right. Have a seat. Here. No, you can sit up here. Aaron, my name is Billy White, by the way. I think I know you actually. I think we might have went to school together. We did. You go high school. I did. What year did you graduate? What was it? 91. I think that was my brother. My brother graduated. Yeah. With you. I graduated 95. Aaron, listen. I've done this for 22 years. It is estate law. Okay. If this guy wakes up, I'm covering you and I'm covering me. I You know what? You know, it's my idea. He was laying on the ground when we got buddy. I understand that, but you got to follow me real quick. I I don't plan on charging you. Just so you know, I'm going to cut you out of here in about 30 seconds. All I'm telling you is he wakes up and says, "That white car hit me." Don't you want me to be able to establish who was in the car from my standpoint? I can understand. I I have I have to Aaron, listen. I have to by state law. I have to know who you are. I have to know who's reporting it. He might wake up and say, "This guy in this white car got out and hit me." I can say, "I talked to this guy. This guy's the caller." I can say that there was nothing. If you're avoiding me, well, I don't know that. But what I'm saying is I was just there. But but to be honest with you, Erin, my biggest concern is trains. There was a train backing up my bumper on the railroad tracks. I had to stop short cuz he's laying on the ground. I want to make sure. I I understand that. That's why we ended up seeing. But there are switch there are switches and he was backing up. Wait a second. This cop does seem dumb enough to park on railroad tracks, but I don't think he did. And even if he did, how would getting this man's ID get the cop's car off of the railroad tracks? If you parked on the railroad tracks, shut up and move your car. You got no business doing anything else except getting your car off the railroad tracks. But what I'm saying is, I got my slippers on, right? I got you, buddy. Listen to me real quick, okay? I've had a long day. I've done this for I've had a long day, too. I've done this for 12 hours. So, all I'm saying is I appreciate you calling us. No disrespectfully, pal. Listen, all I got to do is my job. I have to know who is on scene and I got to get I was trying to get your guys' car moved. So, ambulance and and fire's going to block you guys in. I just wanted to go home, man. I got you. I'm going to get you out of here. They're going to block you all in. And I was trying to get you out of there as quick as possible. But I can't have all these first responders stopping on the railroad tracks, not being able to get through. All I was trying to do is get be aggressive. That's what he was. He was aggressive. And that's what that's what's got me. Wouldn't Wouldn't you have to be if you got a guy that's not listening and you got the potential? I don't have to listen to you just because you got a badge on though. You know that, right? I'm quite aware. But when you're there at the scene trying to get somebody some help, pal. You don't know what's going to happen from this. Less people are going to try to stop and help other people because of what just happened here. That's not what I'm trying to accomplish. That's exactly what's going to happen because I want to stop and go through this again and have a cop screaming in my face just for trying to help somebody. I thought we were on the same page, but listen, I'm not I respect what you do and I appreciate if if you do, then you'll get where I don't owe you anything. When I show up, you actually do by state law. I hate to say that, but I have Show me the law. Then show me the law where Illinois says that you have to ID. When a cop shows up on a on a crime to potential crime scene, accident scene, whatever it is, I have the right to know who's there. I want to see the law where it says I have that right. I want to see the law. Can I not see it? Can you not pull it up? Can you not pop it on your phone and say, "Aaron Fang, here's the law. So next time I will know." It's case law. If you want to wait here long enough for me to go research it and pull it up, I'll do it. No. See, you should already have that, right? All you All you want to do is argue, man. I don't want to argue. I just want you to know that people have a right. I'm telling you what right. I'm telling you what the law is. Listen, I'm telling you the lawyer. I mean, you know this for a fact. See, like I like I said, all just let me go. All right. You're No, you're you're free to go. All you want to do is argue. So that's that's obvious. And what was your name? It's Billy White. Billy White, I've already told you three times, man. You know what? I got a brain tumor and all you did was stress me out. So, Cra, is his ride up front or out back? Here. You're free to go either way. Front door or back door? I don't see one out back. Nobody came in the lobby. All right. Probably ain't got no ride. The chief is following us up here. Have a good one. Well, you be safe, pal. I appreciate you. because things were kind of on the aggressive side. Just be safe out there, okay? Because I do appreciate what you guys do. Listen, just trying to do a job, brother. Have a good one. Hey, she's up. She's up front. Actually, if you want to go through there, be safe, though, next time. Try to take it easy. Would have been more Listen, just trying to get a job done. Yell at me. All right. Yeah, sometimes seconds can get somebody killed, man. Don't yell at me. Seconds can get somebody hurt, brother. Yelling ain't going to help you out. A took more time. Not listening to the police ain't going to help either, man. Have a good one, Aaron. Take care, brother. When this footage was first made public about 8 months ago, critics took to the department's Facebook page to tell them what they think. The department claimed that you guys are all keyboard warriors who have no idea what you're talking about. Based on the poor attitude of the department and their inability to admit any wrongdoing, you better believe this will continue to happen. 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