good are you good thanks cuz I want to huh I hope you're not a terrorist [Music] hey what's up guys it's James Freeman out here at the Logan Utah Police Department parking buy permit only Logan City Police Department [Music] we've got the police department and the city hall here authorized personnel Okin City Hall I wonder where the PD entrance is there's the city hall entrance there we go good how are you good thanks cuz I want to huh I hope you're not a terrorist Logan the city offices will be closed November 12th and it's there in observance of Veterans Day they've got the fallen officers memorial I like to ask him where the Fallen citizens memorial is whoops woman City Police prescription drug take-back pharmaceutical disposal only chalk abuse man that glare glare there makes it hard to see everything [Music] she's over there now thank you hey you don't good how are you something now I'm gonna take what do you video this is everything I can see what's that everything I can see who are you it's irrelevant who are you no I need your ID you need my ID I'm gonna get my lawyer I don't need your lawyer I need your ID that would get you in a lot of troubles I don't think so are you who are you and the chief and if you're gonna come into my lobby and videotape in today's day and age I think I have the right to ask you for to identify yourself okay is it not a public lobby it is okay but this is a little bit is photography a crime I'm asking a photography as a crime 88 your IDs say yes or no I need your ID why do you suspect me of a crime do you suspect me of a crime because in the state of Utah right you can ask but in the state of Utah you have to suspect me of a crime and all truth so it's a stop and ID state huh without even suspicion of a crime I can tell you I'm news media I'm here filming well that would be nice to know and that's all you need to know you didn't ask don't need it mom you can like it all you want Gary hey this is the chief can you send a couple guys down it's Logan Police Department in Logan Utah no just I need Logan Newtown Thanks Logan Police Department Logan Utah mods if you can give me the ID I don't need it well I'm asking you to identify yourself so this is really odd that you're it's getting around my lobby in my lobby video taping in this lobby my loss that's suspicious to me my lobby and I'm curious to know who you are I'm someone who checks up on the government and it's suspicious to me that you're so worried about the people putting cameras on you what are you doing wrong then why are you so worried about the camera because I need you are doing something wrong right now you're trying to demand ID unlawfully now I can understand if you're suspicious you can ask me what I'm doing hi I'm here filming you to check up on you and make sure that you all are obeying the law and not violating people's rights that'll be all the my detained or am I free to go no you're IM detained alright we're gonna do an unlawful detainment then i need your ID sir and what crime do you suspect may have I need okay so you're demanding my ID and if I don't give it to you then what well I'd like to assert my rights but if you're threatening to violently throw me in a cage or something if I don't give it then I'll give it under duress under threat of violence okay I'm gonna ask you to leave you can you're asking me to leave a public lobby as the media yes you're gonna violate the First Amendment right to fight yourself it's me I don't yes I did it just told you as media leave you're telling me yes or what will or will you use violence against me just think no no look I don't I'm not here to cause you a problem but there's causing a problem but you're causing a problem I'm asking you to leave sir then what are you gonna arrest me if I don't well you asked in you to leave the lobby sir you realize this is my Lobby right that's fine but I'm asking you to leave okay are you giving me a lawful order to leave or are you just asking me to leave okay I mean I'm not gonna I'm not gonna disobey any lawful orders but I have the right to be in here and film my public servants so if you're giving me a lawful order or you're telling me you're gonna arrest me if I don't give you ID say you're under arrest no I'm trying to clarify because I feel kind of threatened at this point you guys are yeah you're calling more people with guns out here for a guy with a camera what gun there's a gun right there there's a gun right there there's extra magazines how many times do you think you need to shoot me that's a lot of magazines it's just a camera exactly where are you coming from let me just walk around and do my video leave me alone can we do that I'd like to know what your purposes it doesn't matter what you'd like to know and besides I already told you my purpose is news media gathering content for a story I don't need it yeah do you understand what freedom of the press is you do know who issues press passes who issues them okay nobody the state doesn't issue press passes so to get a press pass what you do is you go you can write it in crayon or you can create it yourself on a computer you can print it out you can laminate it you can make it look as professional as you want but no state anywhere in the United States issues press passes because we have the freedom of the press in the United States of America so anyone with a camera telling a story about a tyrant is press sure and so that's all I'm here to do I was hoping you know I thought you told us good take your camera shot okay I'm just going okay can we can we give each other arms like distance from each other for my safety and yours would that be fair yeah that's fair okay all right great I was just about done in here anyways but I'll back her hearing what you down to the City office if you want to film there it is what was your name I'm sorry you got me real nervous with the approaching me with the aggressive innocent no there's nothing aggressive well I I feel intimidated and threatened I'm sorry about that yeah well I don't think you are that but what was your name can you believe it - no you can't is that what you tell the judge I don't tell the judge that no because you got a little bit more respect for the judge than the general public or what engage you sir well you're not gonna engage me good then go back to your office go back to work and I'll do my job you said you're not gonna engage me but you're gonna follow me around just go that would be just stopping that okay that would just be stalking and then I'd have to have the sheriff come out here and arrest you what's it yeah exactly exactly you guys are actually live on the internet right now there's 1,100 people watching you watching you act out of this oh that is crooked yeah yeah must have had a drunk officer put that at par all right you're dismissed thank you for coming man can I get the chief can I talk to you for a second can I talk to you again for a second I mean I can I can ask them to stop calling they were calling for my safety so I can ask them to stop calling your phones if my if I'm gonna be safe they're calling for my safety and so if if I'm gonna be safe then I can ask people this what's that I did not feel safe that's why I went live I didn't at the time and that's why I went live at this time I think I'm okay you're not gonna arrest me right okay I'm just telling you I felt threatened therefore I went for auditer safety I went live but I'm safe in your department right from here on out okay great then I'll get back in contact with you and we'll work on some procedures as far as not violating people's rights and intimidating people if you want to do it I like to take a proactive approach to things okay do you really or no do you really we can take a proactive approach to it and make sure that you aren't violating other people's rights but if you're going to continue to do it then we'll have to come back and keep teaching you okay I'll take that as a no we don't want to take a proactive approach this isn't a big deal guys I mean they don't understand how to deal with people who assert their rights they haven't had to do it before they haven't had to do it before okay so I understand they don't get it they don't know what to do but if we can just take a proactive approach and say oh you know what dude we screwed up let's do something so this doesn't happen anymore in the future then we're all winning every one of us hey thanks Rick they're rich sorry but if we could just say oh yeah you know what I didn't even realize that I was screwing up our department hasn't had to deal with this before