So, I start opening drawers and looking for like Mexican stuff and whatever paperwork is there. When I hear, um, can I get FD to my location? Why? How you getting FD? She's dead. She wasn't dead. Oh, no. She's too fresh. Oh, God. Oh, never let catch you napping. This is 56, a Panelis County Sheriff's Office podcast. I'm Ricky Butler with Laura Sullivan and Ashley Culie. Today we kind of have a repeat guest, but not really because Deputy Sida Robinson Deberg actually sat in as part of her role in staff inspections when we recorded our very first episode. We're excited to have her back as our guest. So, we're going to learn all about Sita. But first, Ashley has a question. This is the worst part, by the way. If you were at all nervous coming in, this is the scary part. I literally just said that. I'm ready, though. I don't know about that. What is a food combination that you swear by but other people judge you for food? I'm really boring with food. I'm very curious to hear your answer because you are also pretty boring. H my answer is weird. But yeah, I wanted to see if anybody else has one. I like I like so many foods that people consider weird in general. I mean, you know, my sardine thing. Sardines with bacon pepper jam. Yep. That's it. Winner winner. You You win. Yeah. That's sweeter than mine. How does that even happen? How did you find that out? Did you like Did you Did you trip in the grocery store? Kind of like the the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. No. No. It is nothing like the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. It is. Something bad happened. How did that happen? I don't want to talk about my trauma on this podcast. Okay. All right. I mean, that cuz that sounds traumatic. just your combination. So, all right. Wow. Moving on. Wow. I have nothing like that. And I I love eating. So, anybody knows knows that I eat everything all the time, but nothing except sardines. But, but nothing nasty like that. So, she gestures towards you. Judging nasty. No judging. That brought me back to my grandfather. He used to eat sardines in that can. I was like, "Fuck." There it is. Take that. Sorry. Got it. Right. He then. So, no. What I will do though is I'm a candy person. So, um M&M's and Skittles. I have to separate them before I eat them. Is that like It's mandatory. Where where do they come together? You mean you eat them together? What? No. Oh, I'm so sorry. Excuse me. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. All right. Like by color. Yes. You're like, I've never got a bag. Oh, you don't do that. I do. Interesting. And then another thing is sorry salt and vinegar potato chips lays and um smart food that works. You try that together. Oh, what's smart food? Is that the popcorn? The popcorn. Okay. All right. That sounds good. Actually, I genuinely do not think I have any weird food combination that I like that throws other people off. I eat some things like by itself. Like I'll just like I grew up eating tuna like out of the can and I will just straight up eat tuna out of the can without doing anything else to it. But that's a you put bacon pepper jam on it. You'd be happier. Maybe maybe haven't tried it but um yeah I I cannot think of a single thing that I really swear by a combination that makes other people like I'm I'm very normal and average like I I mean yeah I'm not even gonna try to go there because it's not it's not even exciting. I mean, I think that tuna tuna straight out of the can is something. Tuna straight up. Yeah. I mean, I've done that. Yeah. Yeah. That's a hard no for me all day every day. Not Laura's. That's That's a harder. Um, so my I grew up eating this. I don't know where my family got it from, but grilled cheese, but then like preserves with it, like jellym like pepper, bacon, jam. Not that. I No, no, no, no. Everything's better with no bacon in my jam. Like I'll do raspberry preserves, so it's that savory and sweet. That actually sounds good. I kind of want to try that. It's really good. Have you ever had a Monte Cristo? Yes. So that's what I think it's born from, but it's without being deep fried. It's without ham in it, basically. Yeah. So I like it. I like that idea. I'm going to try that. I would try that, but not still. What is the difference between preserve and jam? Oh, you're the environmental. You looked the right direction. Yes, I'm looking. I think I think jelly is jelly. I know you didn't ask about jelly, but I think jelly jelly is strained. So, it's a like doesn't have little bits of fruit or anything in it. I think jam is thicker and preserves is maybe the thickest. I think it's like a continuum from jelly to jam. Alison is nodding. Are we on to something here? That's about it. Okay, we're getting there. All right, that's good enough. That answers my question. than not. We had a we had a closet jelly expert liquefied French guy. Okay. I also know the difference between a jungle and a forest. We did. We learned that from deputy or Yeah. Corpal Fineberg. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um Saya, you have uh really a curious uh route to law enforcement and and and I think we've noticed a trend after our last episode with Corporal Fineberg. We had he's from Massachusetts. Wow. Boston from Massachusetts. Y. So, we're we're on to something. We're doing something here. All right. And in general, a northeast trend. Yeah. But before that, yeah. H we're on we're on we're not sure what. First it was first it was white bald guys and now we're we've graduated to geographic. Yeah. All right. So, um how how you you really have a kind of a cool story finding your way into law enforcement. So, tell us about that. What did when you were a kid, is that what you wanted to be? What were your career goals? Well, maybe also start where were you? Oh, yeah, that too. That too. Yeah, it's been a long day. I don't think we said that. We didn't. Yeah. Um, um, no. When I was a kid, absolutely not. And not that I didn't like law enforcement. I just didn't think that was anything on my mind or radar at the time. Um, so I left. Excuse me. I'm going stay in Massachusetts for a little while and I'm go back because I did hear I'm going to jump all over the place. That's mess. Just go with it. That's what we do. That's how my brain works. Thank you. Cuz this is going to go bad really fast. However, every time I listen to these podcasts, somebody says something about things they say or know from and nobody recognizes it. Who said nip? That they drink nips? Those little bottles of water. Plum. Yeah, plum. Killed it. I know what that was. When he said it, I laughed so hard. I'm like, "Yeah, I know what a nip is." Right. But just yesterday, somebody said was giving me directions and he said, "Well, you're going to go ahead and bust a UI and come back this way." And I said, "That is another word that people don't use." That a UI. Have you heard that? Oh, yeah. Okay. Heard that. Specifically, bust a UI. They said bust a ui. Yeah, that's what I said. But apparently at one point somebody said that's not a thing. And they didn't they never called it a UI. And also a rotary. I guess people call it a turnabout here. I I never heard of a turnabout, but a roundabout. Yeah, a roundabout. Are you from another planet? A turnout. It's called a rotary. I don't even know what either one of those were until I got here. Oh, rotary. It's a rotary in Massachusetts. We go through a rotary and there. Yeah. So, anyway, so we'll be able to compile like a Rosetta Stone of I think we should regional sayings. Um I knew someone instead of saying like road, he would say on the main drag like Yeah. down here in Florida. Yeah. I'm like, "Okay, it's a road." Okay. Yeah. All right. So, back to um Little Say in Massachusetts. Yes. Well, or wherever. Yeah. Right. Well, by way of Brooklyn, I was born in New York. I was a little little seed in New York and then I mother got a job. I was It actually is true. Beginning at the very beginning. There we go. Yeah. I hate her. Anyway, and then my mom got a job at the post office. She was a mail lady and she moved to Boston and she moved us to Boston and that's how I got there. So from elementary school on I was I all my bad years and formative years of being, you know, wild child is in Massachusetts. In Massachusetts. Yeah. And then I had children and that changed everything. And um I came to Florida on a field trip in school and it was February. It was freezing in Boston. It was absolutely ridiculous. They had to de ice the the wings of the plane before we got to Florida. Got to Florida, it was like 85 degrees. We're in Disney. They had palm trees. It was so pretty. I'm like, how do everybody doesn't live in Florida? What is going on here? What's wrong with these people? I know. So, I'm that person that kind of came here and stayed. And so, as soon as I got on my feet, we shipped it up and moved to Florida. Right. So, that's kind of But when you're a little girl, like did you have career goals? Did you know what you wanted to do? M um all I could think of is my aunt would come home with her high heel shoes on and her fancy dress and her hair all curly and I said I'm going to work in a big nice building with nice clothes on and that's going to be my job. I don't care what I do but that's what I'm going to be doing. You know what your aunt did? What did she do? Insurance. Okay. Yeah, it was she was in a That's what I remember. Yeah. And then you did um in high school you did ROC. I did ROC. Yeah. And that's how I got to Florida. That was my field trip. And I Oh, that was the field trip. Okay. Thank you. ROC. Yep. So, what how did you find yourself in R? Because it sounds like you didn't really have that in your head because that's a kind of, you know, obviously it's a it's a I don't know how to describe it. Like, but it's a militaristic, you know, program. Obviously, it is. Something must have caught my eye. I did. They had to wear uniform. And, you know, in high school, nobody's wearing uniforms. You're kind of corny. You're weird if you wear that. But, something drew me to the the nice uniform. I was like, "Oh." And there was some kind of structure to it. Did you need that structure as a kid? I was the youngest. Now, okay, let me fix this. I have one sister, one one blood sister. My mother had two girls, just me and her. She's older than me. Um, but we grew up with with three cousins and they're like sisters. We grew up like sisters. We in the same house for a long a lot of the time. Um, so I was the youngest. So, I watched them get in trouble and so I learned what to do and what not to do. And I learned how to kind of finesse, you know, so I was kind of a lowkey, you know, and um and so when I would get in trouble, it was like little things, you know, it was quite a few things. No one would ever know. I have to take it to my grave. Yeah. You know, we're not going to make you confess all that. No, we're not doing that. So, how long were you in ROTC then? Like all of high school or when did that I don't know when that start? I don't think about it. Um so track cheerleading and then and ROC. Yeah. I think 11th and 12th grade. Okay. At any point you're like, "Maybe I'll do the military." You were always just like, "No, I'll do this in high school." And then I wanted to go to the Air Force and um I was an adult and I did have children at the time and they were like, "Um, yeah, you got to do, you know, sign your rights over or something like that. I'm not doing that." That changed everything. But yeah. So, um, you did go to college, had your first child pretty young, and that kind of obviously, as it should, changed the trajectory a bit or presses pause a little bit. So, what did you do then? um moved to Florida right around that time. That my my I had one child, well, excuse me, both my older children were born in Massachusetts. And then when my son was eight months old, we moved to Florida. So that was um the beginning of my lifestyle. And at the the time, because I'm married, divorced, remarried now, but at the time my husband then um he was so he didn't care. He we were going to go, we'll go with you. So he we went to Florida and we said, I guess we got to do something with our lives. cuz we were young. We were 20s. I was a, you know, before I became an adult, I was a parent. So, we tried to figure this out, right? And so, um, we started working and there was this guy who hired my husband at the time, um, to work with people with disabilities. Um, and he was brand new. The the owner of the company was brand new doing this. He, my husband, like got a paper check written, handwritten check to like his first paycheck kind of thing. And, um, kind of and I I like to say that I'm recklessly ambitious. I was like, what is he doing that we can't do? we can we can run a business like this. He's brand new. He's So, we went through all the steps and everything to um start a supported living service for people with disabilities. Um fairly young. Um and it was fun. We we actually got it. We got approved. We're these um business owners and taking care of people with disabilities, which I loved. That was probably um let me say when I became a deputy, I never looked back. This is probably the most rewarding job I've ever had. Right. But doing that different very different. And I think my my heart I just it was just so so many things as a young person not knowing the needs of people with disabilities and the things that I learned for them um that grew me up even more you know so as a as a parent too. Um was it like a residential kind of program or how did you interact with the client? Go to their homes. So we would um supported living. So if they these people um would have um certain needs. So, some needed maybe more care, some needed less care, but just to integrate into society and and be able to um have jobs and you know be able to go to doctor's appointments and stuff like that, we would help them with that. Um so we he and I we started that supported living service and we would we did it for seven or eight years and then I know it was wonderful, right? We're young. We didn't know anything. We're like, "Okay, we just maintaining having a good old time." Yeah. But you're young and I didn't know better at the time. So there was some legislative change and at the time again I didn't know anything about politics. Didn't care. I didn't know I didn't know how it would affect me directly in my own pocket, right? Until it did, right? Um there was a specific program specific program that was funding the the the money that we got to to do the business and they they that change cut it in half. So the services that we were providing is no longer you know this amount is going to be half of it and so you have to take care of the same amount of people with half the money. So then it was like a 2 to1 ratio where we'd have to have two clients to make the same money as one client to do it. And then they cut it another 30% like six months later or some nonsense like that. I don't remember the timeline but whatever it was it was a rapid between one to two and a half years it went from boom to boom and we were like oh god we got to get a job. We don't have any money. Like it was like it was like hemorrhaging money. I was like oh god we got to do something. So um my cousin the ones I grew up with worked in the jail. Um they came down here. Oh I'm sorry. Yes. So from Boston, I was not the first one to Boston. My I had a cousin, two cousins that moved down here. My aunt who worked in insurance, the fancy one, she moved here first. So all right. So her and her um her children were here and so um she worked at the the jail and she said, "Well, the sheriff's office is hiring." And I said, "Oh, I I knew I needed part-time. I didn't need full-time at the time because I was still, you know, juggling a lot of things and I still had kids." So I started working at the courthouse um in J O as a CJS. So it was like building security. So I would be at the mag when you first walk in and you would, you know, go through people's stuff and that's criminal justice specialist for our listeners. I got you. That's what we're here for. Thank you. So I started there and I would be at the mag. Um and then I mean by the grace of God, I know kind of just worked the way the way it did. Um there was this whole push for people retiring and they were going to start um doing an academy for the sheriff's office and they were like, "Oh, the sheriff's office is going to sponsor the academy. They're going to pay you to go to the academy." And I'm thinking, hm, you going to pay me to go, you know, and and so at the time I was at the courthouse, I made so many like friends and people were so nice and it was just so different to see, you know, police officers in this light. Like it was I was like, "Oh my god, they're so cool." Like I really, you know, me naive have no idea. Not that I cared one way or the other about police, but just to see them in the background and see how they operate. So many and a lot of nice women, too. So it was kind of like, oh, there's women, too. Is it kind of cool? I'll be a superm mom cop. Right. And literally that's kind of how it I that was my transition to saying, "Okay, you know, they're going to try this. I can try to be a cop. Let's see." And it was almost like that show like Let's Be Cops, right? And I was like, and I'm a jerk. I'm like, I'm fit. I can run. I can do, you know, I can do this stuff. And I'm And I'm super super super competitive because they were like, "Oh, you know, you go to the academy, you can't get, you know, a bad grade because they'll kick you out." I'm like, "I don't get bad grades." you know, I was bad at school, but I was smart. I was like, you're not gonna be um failing anything. I don't fail. So, that was um so I I did. I I wanted to go to the academy and I put my memo in and some I'm learning the process of, you know, law enforcement because I was a civilian. You don't So, and this is the law enforcement academy. Law enforcement academy. Did you ever consider the jail at all or? You know what? I don't think I considered the jail because that is not what was offered at the time. If if I had to be fair, I don't remember even having an option. I remember it being the law enforcement academy. So which could have been not always same time. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of weird. That's kind of how it transitioned. So I don't remember saying no, I don't want to go to the jail, but I don't remember being an option. And I don't think I would have wanted to go to the jail. There's something about I like sunshine and daylight. That's my personality. Like I was like, you put me in a door. I'm like, no. Yeah. No, I didn't get out. So whatever. So I that that was just the option at the time. And so that's the the route I took. Um you go through the academy, you got to do all these tests and everything like that. And so here I am like I am not failing. I remember kids used to tell me mom is studying. She doesn't want to get a bad grade. And I was like anything less than 100 anything less than 100. I was mad, right? So mad. I get that. At the in the in academy though, you know, closer towards the end, everybody who was getting good grades is kind of starting to look at like what did you get and what did you get? So there were uh three, you know, they get the three at the top for whoever, you know, did the best in my opinion, right? There was um all the high liability tests are the ones that they use for the the top three. So all together I did the very best, but on the high liability I was second. So I was like, oh man. Yeah. So anyway, I did. And these are all the like the written test. Written test. Okay. Written. Okay. All the you whatever. Nothing physical at this point. Just written. Do you remember who was number one? And do you still have a vendetta against them? No. No. To be fair, I think our class was 183. I think I love every single person in my we I think we had a good class. Like, you know, I know there's some infight in other class other classes, but I think I can call any one of my classmates right now. We would have like a fun loving conversation. And some are here, some are gone, but I still absolutely love him. And it was um he's actually a reserve deputy now. Five coat. Five coat. Me, five coat, and cigaretti. So we're the uh top three. So nice. So and the the physical stuff though, you know, the high liability stuff, you know, kind of that's all new, relatively new to you. I'm sure you got a little bit of something for CJS being at the courthouse, but how was that? That was fun. Yeah. Oh, you know what? What was funny is um my cousin who worked here told me she said if you're going to go to the academy once it started rolling and she's like listen I don't know if you remember P90X and Insanity those videos right she said do Insanity and she said you start today and literally I was doing you know okay Shant T right whatever and I was so pumped I mean I started terrible and by the end of the time I did Insanity was the time that academy was starting and I was like ready I was like who am I like I'm strong right And then and then when we get to the academy, you don't start DT right away. It's like maybe one or two weeks. And so I was like, when we got to start doing the fun stuff like when are we going to start doing and then when I did I killed it. There was never a time when I was like not if you you tell me to front lean rest. I was on it. Do it. Let's do it. Also like you said, you know, you went to college. You after after a bit you came down here, you did that business for eight nine years and then you went into the academy. So, like what's your age at this point? Are you in your 30s? Oh, this this is over. This is I'm just curious because I I I when you look at the academy right now, it's these people straight from college and I'm just saying you're whooping their ass and Oh, you're so much nicer now. That's what I mean. Yeah. So, no, I it was I was 30. I was 30 31 30 turning 31 in the academy. And um yeah, I was Was most the class like straight out of college? Yeah, exactly. Dang it. I think Gruntman and I love him. He's my baby. I love him to death. His son, I'm like, I'm trying to steal him. I'm working on that. But whatever. I think he might have been the youngest or was it Andrew Lynch? He's at Largo now. But um there were two 20 year olds in our class. I think brand new of kids. Interesting point though, um, Ashley to bring that up because we do, you know, one thing we talk about a lot is how like people we get the question all the time like on social media like you know, well in Florida you can be 19 and be a law enforcement deputy, you know, why do you guys 20, you know, why 21? All that stuff. And it's like sheriff's pretty straight up about it. It's like you have two more years of life experience. Um, did you observe that? I mean, when you're when you're in there with these with these young kids basically, you know, you've got you've run a business, you've done these other things, like there had to be some times you're sitting in class and you're like, "No, honey. No, no, I did see that a lot." And you know what? You don't pay attention to it. Is if you live at home and you've known what you've known for your entire life, if you go to someone's house and they're arguing or fighting about something and you've never seen that, you're kind of like, "Well, there's a problem here. there is a problem. No, they can fight. They can, you know, fight or argue. I don't say fight. That's wrong. But um physically fight, they can't. But so there were things that people, you know, very specific. Let me get a good one. What I did learn, but I didn't like it, but I learned it. People live differently. Sure. And when I went out for the first time, like I've seen nasty houses. It is what it is. And I remember in the academy or at some teaching point where they said, you know, it's okay to have a nasty house. It's not you don't take people out of their house because their their house is dirty. That's not a thing. So they would go into these houses and saying, "Oh god, these kids can't live like this. This is disgusting. This is disgusting." I'm like, "It's a dirty house." You know, you don't take kids for that. And I didn't even know you couldn't take kids for like being homeless. Like you can be homeless in America. You don't you don't remove them unless there's like a they're not eating or you know, stuff like that. So coming from a maybe a really really nice home and not seeing just nastiness or something like that, you could be walking into somebody's house and trying to do a removal when that's not that's not where we're where we're at. You need to give them more resources or something like that. So I don't know. There were things like that that I would see. Um a lot of wanting to do a lot I don't know how to describe it. Mhm. like a little overzealous. Yes. Yeah. And where it didn't need it because it was normal, but if it's not your normal, you don't know, right? So, if you can grow up in a house where there's a lot of, you know, this is one of the examples I gave someone when I get mad, not I get mad, but if I get mad, I'm from somebody's house, then they're like d excuse me, dropping plates on the floor and breaking plates everywhere and they get home, that's what they do when they get mad. So, um, if you walk into that house and you see that person breaking plates and bringing, "You can't do that. You can't do that." I'm like, "There's there plates there. Leave them alone. Leave him alone." You know, it's okay. But that's that's not okay. That's not I'm like, "It is, you know, give them a little bit of time kind of thing." But I think it's shocking if you don't see someone who just yells all the time. And so, you go in the house and you're like, "You're yelling, you're yelling, it's okay. Give them a little bit." And I think that's kind of how I looked at it. Some people just need, you know, space and time. like you know no one calls 911 to say hi. They've called 911 when they have got nothing else to do but to get help. So if you go in there and try to like you know you got to stop yelling or you got to stop you know give a little bit of grace and a little time to kind of figure themselves out and then try to help them. But I think jumping right on somebody while they're still in their in their moment that they need to be then I think that doesn't help. Maybe try to deescalate a little better. That's good. I mean because you know I think when you say that to somebody it's like yeah I mean that makes sense but like the true application of it like yeah you know there there there's something that comes with life experience. So see a little bit more. So you get through the academy and then you're starting FTO but I think we have to to take a turn on this and and pause briefly because a little interruption. I think there was an interruption with you starting FTO ironically because you say you're the oldest young person because of a certain video program you religiously watched and Yes. Oh, okay. I don't It started with my father's mother, my paternal grandmother, right? She was so cute and something about curly hair, right? That's why I love Laura. But anyway, she used to sit sit at 7 o'clock and do her little curlers and watch Wheel of Fortune. That was her thing. And that was me just sitting up under my grandmother watching her curl her hair and watch Wheel of Fortune. So I'm watching with her and that just became my thing. I was a avid Wheel of Fortune fan and I was good at it. I was I was answering questions, you know, questions answering solving puzzles before they would finish. So lifelong goal I'm getting on Wheel of Fortune. That's going to happen, right? How do you do that? I don't even know. But in my mind, I was going to be on Wheel of Fortune. Um so in Florida somehow or another I was watching one day and they said where the Wheelmobile, remember that? I don't know if you watch it, you know. But anyway, there's a wheel mobile. I should find out it, too. Okay. It goes from city to city and they they said they're going to be in Clear Water and and this this is still me um trying to just, you know, before the academy, I think. I don't even know. Oh, when the process started. Yeah, it was way before the process started. So, I had went to to the Wheelmo and um so I went to there, went there and um there was a cattle call. It was so many people and you had to go get in this line and um and hope that they call you in this auditorium. You put your name on a piece of paper, wait in the auditorium for them to call your name. So funny. This is a cute story actually. The third time we did it, so they didn't call me the first time, they didn't call me the second time. And it was only going to do it three times. So I'm bummed, but I'm going to wait of course, right? So it was a little card and the lady behind me, I kid you not, said, "Fold the ends of your paper. That way it doesn't get stuck to someone else's." and shores. I folded my thing and they called my name. I was like, you got to be kidding me. Like literally that was how I got called. Last thing was, um, come back to this hotel, do this puzzle. If you finish, if we select you, you'll be selected from these puzzles that you did, and then we'll call you. And I said, okay, well, fine. So, I went and did it, did the puzzles, and went to wait for the call. And the call came on the first day I was supposed to start FTO. Bringing back the story, right? Um, and I was remember saying, "Oh my god, I don't even know what to do." Like I was like, "Who was they're not gonna let me do this?" But I was like, "I'm going on Wheel of Fortune." I'm going to be awol like said to you to go knock on the sheriff's door. I be excused. That's how I felt. I was like, "I'm so tired. I don't know what to do." So I um I I remember it was um Ser Sergeant Doherty at the time. Sergeant DH at the time and Lieutenant Garretts at the time were the FTO um coordinators. I remember that duo well. Yeah, they were they came to our class all the time and I remember going I think it was Dherty was the first person I saw and I said I know this is going to sound absolutely ridiculous. I was like but I just got this email and they want me to come this weekend and I know you I know you already set the schedule. Can you please let me go? I don't even know what to do but I want to go. and he laughed and he goes, "What?" He's like, "What are you? Are you serious?" I was like, "Yes, and I really want to go, please." Um, so they switched around a couple things and um and he was like, "Well, you um not necessarily giving you time off, but because it I think there were twelves at the time." So, you don't start this weekend, you start next weekend as your your whatever. So, he switched my my shift so that I can go to California that Friday and come back that Monday or Sunday and be ready to do, you know, FTO. So, that's basically what I did. Um, okay. So, I go to to California and of course I'm nervous as all hell. The first one comes up and you know how they start doing the you don't have to spin the wheel, they just start putting letters on the thing and there was like a place and two letters popped up and I was like bam, I got it. Lancing, Michigan. And they were like what? You know, and it was it right. I'm like, oh [ __ ] I'm about to Yes. So you So I was like, all right, I'm gonna be um I was like, yeah, I'm going win. So then the next puzzle, I don't remember. It might have been the very next puzzle, whatever it was, but it was huge. And I was like, "Oh my gosh, this is going to be a big one." Like I feel my head spinning. I'm all excited. And I controlled the wheel the entire time. I don't think it was out of my hand. I'm just spinning and calling letters, calling, spinning and calling numbers. And I'm like, "Oh my god, I'm a wheel of fortune. I'm about to win this because I probably know it." Right? And so so I was probably around like I'm sorry, like $19,000, right? It was where I had spun this wheel up to. And I'm looking at this board and I'm like, I know this puzzle. I got this. This puzzle is done. It's like five letters not up on the board. And I'm thinking, okay, let me solve because if I spin again, this is it. I'm not going to make it. So, I was like, "Okay, I'm going to solve." And I don't remember the actual puzzle or what what it was, but it was um Hogwarts School for Witches and Wiz Wizardry or something. Of witchcraft and wizardry. Yeah, something maybe witchcraft and wizardry. So I must have said I must have I know what I said cuz he was as soon as I said it I was like Hogwarts school for witchcraft and wizards and he was like and I in my mind I'm like yes and then I hear him saying no and I'm like what's going oh and all I could think of is oh no I didn't say it right and he showed and the guy next to me got it and I was like I'm going to punch him right but so he he killed it. He solved the puzzle. I mean, and that and that was it. And that was it. After that, I was like, I don't want to play no more. So, we're back in sunny Panelis County. You start FTO late after all that to lose on Wheel Fortune. So, I was all bummed out. How was that? How How was FTO for you? Did you do well? I think I did good. I did. You made it. I mean, right. Barely. No, no, just kidding. Two funny stories that I thought of that I was like, we can't I don't know if I can say or not say kind of thing. Yeah, we can always cut them out. We're not going to. No. So now, mind you, let's go back to this is terrible. I'm new. I have zero law enforcement um experience. Um [Laughter] dead bodies, right? Right. I've heard of them, right? You got to you got to experience that. They want to get you a dead body. You got to start seeing these bodies. This is going to be a thing you're going to do. You're going to see them, right? I remember going into this condo and it's set up where you walk in the front door and it's like a a just a straight corridor. You go straight, it's living room and then kitchen area, but off to the left there would be bathroom, bedroom. That's all it was. So, I remember walking into this um this front room and I um and I'm looking around. I'm like, "Okay, so this is obviously a deceased person." Yes. This is a a deceased person. Oh, a real one. Yes. Yeah. Got me. Right. So, can't buy a bow on this one. No, no, I'm in it. But I was I was ready. I was like I learned I got to count pills. I got to do this stuff, right? So, I'm ready. So, I go in and I'm looking around. I'm like, "Okay." So, I saw the kitchen area and it was this poor man just kind of sitting at the table kind of with his hand on his head, like elbow on the table, hand on head, um, and just kind of sitting there. And I'm like, "Oh god, this poor man's wife is dead in the room. This is terrible." So I go I'm I look at him and I cut off towards like the the side the bathroom where the in the bedroom would be and they were like where you going is him. No. Oh damn. Oh he was sitting there just like I was like he's not dead. I was just waiting for somebody to say pranked. You know we got you. Haha. No he was legit dead and I would walk right past him and so somebody turned me around. And I was like, "Oh, I was looking for medicine or something." Good save. Oh, yeah. So, I was obviously contemplating how most people, you know, die in that type of And he didn't look dispositioned or anything. He mispositioned. He just looked like he was sitting at the table and sad dream. Yeah. He just looked like he was just sad. And I was like, "Oh god, he's just sitting there." And then so when they finally, you know, this is what you got to do. And they moved him. And then you could see like the blood pooling and all that stuff and he had been I don't it was not very long. I think he was getting dressed to go somewhere and I think he just sat down and just died. I don't know what what the problem was. So whoever called and said, "Hey," he didn't show up. So it was just hours later and I guess what they call a fresh body. So I I had a lot of fresh bodies. I didn't have a lot of like demps and stuff like that. That's good. Yeah. One one or two bad demps and someone saved me. First of all, they give us these nice um gas masks not to have to deal with that smell. But apparently it's like, "Oh, you put on your gas mask. You're a punk, right?" I was like, "Give me my gas mask. I'm not playing this game." Uhuh. But then um there was one I might have been out of FTO. I might have just kind of got somebody to help me out on one of them because I was like, I'm not going in there. I was like, I'm not going. Yeah. It was it was like climbing over all kind of nastiness in a in a um in like a mobile home park. Mobile home park. Mobile home. It was so nasty. And they were all the way in the back and there were vultures on the top of the thing trying to get in. That's cool. Wow. Yeah. No, I didn't do that one. We don't got to talk about that one. That was Yeah, but my fresh bodies were good. And you want to talk about other fresh bodies? Yeah. Heck yeah. Hey, there's another one. Let's go. This one I'm probably tired. Okay, we were going there was another call that's this older lady didn't go to work. She was supposed to go to work and she goes to work all the time and they all love her. She's very nice lady. So, but they know she has um some kind of medical condition. So, if she doesn't show up, they were concerned. That ain't good. So, they called and they asked us to go do a welfare check. So, um me and the other I think it was the sergeant at the time or maybe my FTO. I'm not going to drop names because if they know who it was, I hope they don't even remember this. But anyway, we go to this house and we're knocking on the sides. We're tapping on windows trying to see if anybody's in here. The house is fairly secure. We couldn't see anything. So, um I think one way or another finally somebody came with a key to get into the garage to get into the house. So, we um we get into the house um and it's just a nice clean house and whatever. So, we lady lives on her own. So, we go into walk around find her in the bedroom and she's just laying in the bed just peacefully and dead. I'm thinking, "Oh, they're going to be so sad. This old lady just died." I was like, "Oh my god, this is terrible." So, you know me, I'm looking for pills, right? So, I start opening drawers and looking for like Mexican stuff and whatever paperwork is there. And I remember kind of going off to the other side of the bed and I hear we have radios in our ear, but we're in the same room. And I hear, um, can I get FD to my location? I'm like, why you getting FD? She's dead. She wasn't dead. Oh, no. She's too fresh. Oh god. Oh, never let Sita catch what happened. She's dead. Don't worry about it. Just call FD any call now. I'm like after you could just come in just I don't even know. Just in case. I know. He might be missing. I don't know. Well, now maybe just like check some pulses. Now I will touch every single person. I'll smack the [ __ ] out of him. Are you Are you Are you dead alive? Cuz I'm not doing this anymore. Like it was so bad. She was in a diabetic coma. This I'm not laughing at that. I had no I never saw that before. Talk about naive, right? I didn't know that was a thing. But um the FD came in. They gave her like a cookie and she was like, "I'm good. You can go. You were ready to call it. The body bag." Took all of her pills. tried to call her family and she's just she just needed a cookie. Damn. That that right there is probably why they have all those people that you wear the band that says like, you know, this is my medical condition or I just need you look for it and not just go straight for the drawers. Yeah. Oh no. I feel so bad. She she if she had died, she would have been beautiful. She was peaceful and she just Oh, poor nice lady just died. I was pretty I was pretty sold on on recklessly ambitious for a title for this, but now I think it's she just needs a cookie. She just needs a cookie. There we are. All right, that was excellent. Okay, I don't know. We'll see if I don't get fired on that one. I was It was very early. Now everybody knows I don't play around dead bodies. I'm on it. I'm like Yeah. Let's see. Let's do some chest compressions. His whole bottom half is gone. It doesn't matter. Don't matter. He could still be there. Try a cookie. His hands over there. Yeah. So you So you you get you get through uh your freshest body. Yes. Uh but you get FTO and all that stuff. Like is there did you kind of gravitate to certain types of calls or cases you like to be involved in? I liked um I like drugs and searching cars. So, I had a really good time, you know, having fun with that kind of stuff. Um we were um another deputy and I were um doing traffic. We were literally out here to do traffic and we were 56ing. 56. Get a cookie. Got to get a cookie, right? Um but we were waiting for um traffic violations, I guess. So, I'm sitting there and we're talking and and either, you know, my peripheral, you don't have peripheral hearing, right? But anyway, I hear a I mean, it's all pretty much peripheral because your ears are over there. So, it was both. I heard and then out of peripheral I saw. Right. There we go. Let's go with that. All right. There it is. Clean it up. But anyway, um loud music, very, very loud music coming, you know, from the intersection. And I So, we look up and it's this nice, nice, I think Camaro, like orange, pretty, very clean, nice looking car. And I'm like, "Oh, that's cute." Right? loud music, no problem. That's not a That's not an offense. You can have loud music, right? But when he rolled by now, of course, I'm paying attention because I'm thinking, "Oo, nice car." He had um that that tent, that dark tent on his tag, and I was like, "Got one." Right? So, so I was like, "Okay, good. Now I get to see the car up close." So, I pulled him over um and my mother partner who was with me, absolutely love him, Jacobs, um Christopher Jacobs at the time. He was an animal. He's on it. Anyway, we were good together. Um we pulled him over. Chris and I worked together in that area a lot. So, we had like non-verbal cues with each other back and forth. And so, if he saw something or I saw something, we would kind of give each other a look and it was like, we know what this is, right? So, of course, he we pull him over and he's got this weed smell just coming out of the car. And I was like, okay, come on. So, very nice young man. He I was like, I'm going to search your car because you know there's there's obvious weed smell in here. And he's like, well, I got this joint. I was like, thank you going in. Right. So we get him out of the car and it took me three seconds cuz the first thing I checked was like under his seat gun, right? So I look up. I'm like, "Chris, get him." So we we he we um cuffed him, put him on the side, went through the car, got it was a not a lot of drugs, but the the gun was a problem because he was a felon and that was probably one of my early best cases because that was that um traffic stop allowed me to later testify in federal court, which is kind of a big deal. I didn't even know that was a thing. But um because there was a whole lot going on with that young man, even though super nice. But um and I remember the lawyer was like, "Well, you can't stop anybody for loud music." And I said, "I didn't." But he got my attention because of his loud music. I was like I was like, "That wasn't the case. Don't draw." So why was it in federal court to contest the stop the actual um or did he have other a lot of other stuff going on? He had a lot of other stuff going on. It was some other weird thing with like the city of Clearwater because they asked me did I know him or did I know anything about any prior that he had and I said is this a traffic stop and because apparently he was trying to say that people were targeting him or something like that something weird and I was like I have no part of that because I don't know that but in the courtroom when he when I walked in he saw me and he's like hi deputy like it's probably not good for you but he was yeah and so I think they thought that somehow I knew him because of that. But no, that wasn't it. But so another teachable moment, if you're a felon in possession of firearm or you have any other bad things you don't want attention for, don't draw attention to yourself. Drive a camo car. Keep your windows rolled up. Don't blow your speakers up on your That is the That is the one that drives me nuts is like we know this is illegal yet people do it do it anyway. And it's like, do you want like I I mean, I personally don't care. I don't think any of our deputies personally care, but it's the law and it's law enforcement, so don't You're giving everybody a free pass to pull you over. Absolutely. That's also like that's not just Florida. That's No. Yeah. It's everywhere. It's everywhere. So it's like, why does they even exist? And then the new thing is wrapping tags. Have you seen any of those? Which is like you'll they'll just literally take a tag and do a wrap on it of whatever you want. Yeah. So it matches the color. It's so it's the actual tag, but it's just wrapped and they cut out the letters and it looks cool, but it's illegal. These ding dings, why would they do that? Okay. Anyway, especially if you're driving if you're driving dirty, too. Like, you know, I'm just an old man. I'm going to get off my, you know, yelling kids to get off the lawn. But it's like why? Um, so that was when you were still in patrol, obviously. Um, you you went to CPO at some point, which is when I I think I first encountered you as a CPO. So, how how did you get into CPO? How was that? Um, again, you remember back when I didn't want to be in the jail because I just need sunlight every day. I'm I'm very much a people person and I I thought that would be like really really good for me. I was like, "You put me um with these kids, too, because that's my thing. I love the kids." But I just thought it was like a fun opportunity to get out and, you know, community police. So, I went for community police and then the spot that I got was St. Pete Beach and loved it. I learned a lot about the city, um, the things that they want or don't want. And I learned like um so which which beach for you? St. St. P Beach. Okay. Absolutely love St. Pete Beach which is one of our contract cities. Yep. Y um for example something like we had decoy cars in the city because they would complain about speeding. So we would put a um a decoy car but kind of right when you come over. So like a marked a marked cruiser though. Yes. Marked cruiser. Nobody think there like an inflatable deputy in it. It should have. Right. Not a bad idea. A K9 in there. People like a K9. They're paying attention. Yeah, they I know, right? That's all we need, right? Anyway, um right off C. Is it Corey that you come in on? Yeah. So, coming off it tourists are all coming in. So, they see the car, they slow down. It's it's helpful. But then I remember getting a complaint and it was like, we don't want people to think we have a lot of crime here. We don't want that car sitting right in front of the It's like that's classic. So, you had half the town like this is great. They're slowing the people down. in half the the town, the city saying, "Don't put that there because we don't want it to look bad." Well, it's just like when people have neighborhoods complain about speeders and we go out there and do a detail and pull most of them over. We get that a lot. Yeah. Um but CPO, I all the events, all the fun stuff, they it signed me up. I was ready for it. I absolutely love CPO. I don't think I had one bad memory of CPO. Just good people, good times. I absolutely loved it. Um but somehow in CPO I kind of started liking it must have been before CPO but I started liking um child victims like not liking child victims but wanting to do those cases like I felt bad. I loved them these kids and I'm thinking this trauma these things that they're experiencing. I'm going to give these kids a hug. They need they need a hug, right? So I'm doing these cases and I'm like okay I flocked to them and I ran into um Kinda. He was a big um CAC or crimes against children corporal at the time I think and I remember going to one and I was learning what a call out was and you get a call out when a CA a CAC detective crimes against children detective would come out and say okay this case is enough for us to deal with today we're going to handle it right now. So I remember him doing a call out for us and he was like oh you know you did good this is this is this is good for you I think you would be um good in CAC and that was years before years ago on a call. While I was in CPO, I was there for maybe like three years. Absolutely loved it. But then a CAC detective opportunity opened and I'm thinking h I'm going to try that. I I think that's where I want to be. That is going to be my claim to fame. I'm going to be the best CAC detective. I'm going to kill it. I'm going to save all these babies or, you know, save the day, right? Because I love them. And I got to CAC and actually right at the same time, Kinda was going in there to be the sergeant. So I learned under that same guy who I just randomly saw you know years ago on a call. Um and I would say under his tutelage like I you know right that was a Hogwarty thing to say. See we're going to run this all together. It's gonna be messy but it's gonna come together. Right. That's what we do. Um he he walked me through a lot of like really really good big cases like I didn't know what I was doing but he you know this is how you do this. This is you know this is what you're looking for. make sure you touch this this, you know, make sure you do this, make sure you do that. Anyway, great. I loved it. Thought I was doing pretty good. Um, at the time we had two um internet crime detectives who would only do porn online, like children pornography, like so they would they would be in another room watching the images and doing like the pictures and and filtering through that. Both of those people went on maternity leave at the same time. And so they started giving us those cases, right? So in my mind, I think, you know, I think human human beings filter out the really ugly parts. You can you tell me your story. I hear it. I know it's terrible, but I don't eat that image. But when you see it in a video or you don't unsee those things, yeah, it broke my heart. I was like, I'm not sleeping. Like I just see this little little girl little little girl's face and it's breaking my heart. So that kind of um messed me up. But um I realized quickly after that that I was like CC is not going to be my thing cuz it I couldn't say no. You don't want to let your team down and tell them I'm not doing those. You don't do that. You know that's not fair to other people who don't want to see it either. Um so if you're not going to do your fair share and sharing the part that everybody the ugly part that everybody has to do. That wasn't going to be my thing. So um it it was about a year and I was like in full on tears like this is not it's not for me. I'm sorry but this is this is not a thing you know. So, and which is hard to do because when you get to a position like that, you you commit for a certain length of time because it takes a lot of investment to train you and they expect you to be there two two or three years and Yeah. So, it's hard to tell that I bet. Yeah, it it was a lot of training. It was a hard a hard thing to want to do or have to do. It just wasn't even something that my soul could take. Again, me and my sunshine bright lights, I was like, I need I I need the sun again. Like, I this is getting heavy. Um, but I did want to have another good claim to fame from um, CAC because one of the I don't know, one of the cases that I had, I guess I can say it now because it officially closed. I just got the the state attorney just called me and said, um, she pled to 45 years. They were seeking the death penalty for her for killing her child. Wow. Um, and so they went back and forth for since it's 2019, this has been dragging out, dragging out. And then she finally said, you know, owned up to it and said, "Yes, I did it." And so that was a a big one. It's rewarding stuff. You just have to and I I think that's, you know, that's the thing that people, we've had this conversation before with others, like you you want to do that thing, right? But there's also everything in between. Like for every great gratifying moment, there's I don't want to see that again. And you got to live with it. Um but uh but it's good that you're able to when we when you do work at a larger agency, you do have those opportunities to try things and then not so much. I mean, you know, we talked with the last episode with Corporal Fineberg about people trying out for Kines. I was like, it's not for me in the try out process, but that's not, you know, when in some of the specialty units and investigative operations, like there's not there's not a try out. You just have to it's like how much of this do I have to really see and what's happening and and it would be it would definitely be like the internet crimes against children stuff that's you know cuz it's it's insane. It is um it's tough and I knew those things would would come up here and there but I think when it became over and over like daily that was something that it was like I didn't get enough time to to adjust from the other one or I didn't get enough time to reset from that. And you know like children crimes are terrible because your dots connect in regular crime. If I punch you in the face, you know why we had a fight. This is a fight. But when you see someone hurting a child, you know, defenses or something like that, they it takes longer for you to say, "Okay, my I'm back, you know, to a normal person to understand that." You never understand it. So, you just are stuck somewhere where you just can't get that back to a line to deal with it. So, um yeah, that was not good. But they were so nice. They said, "Listen, this is not a punishment. We understand this is this is tough for anybody. Um, we have the staff inspection spot open if you want to just take that to kind of decompress. Right. And I was like, I don't even know what staff inspection is. I'll take it. I'll take it. Right. Um, and and literally it was like a very quick smooth transition. They put me in there. Um, and absolutely um, helped because it gave me time to just not even think about that anymore. It was like you had to learn something new. you had to start, you know, figuring out what you actually have to do and kind of things and and so staff inspections turned out to be fun for me. I get to see every part of this agency. That's how I got to be on your first podcast actually with Chalmer's because y'all were doing it. So, just to give a little bit of context for everybody. So, that's under the the professional standards bureau which includes internal affairs and all that stuff, but there's also uh strategic planning and then staff inspections as part of that. And that's really essentially truly staff inspectors. It's part of our accreditation process and they just y'all go through various areas of the agency, learn as much as you can about them, get feedback from staff and Y just to kind of give the sheriff a report of of what's happening. They all do. Um, so how talk about that's it's not a hard thing to transition into because you're used to as even I mean even as a deputy you're used to gathering information and processing and putting together some kind of report but was there anything different about it like what's it it sounds like it would be a really cool job because you get to number one you get to meet a lot of people. We're we're PR people so we like we like people but you get to learn all kinds of stuff too. Yep. I had no idea what y'all did. Number one the deepness of it. Yeah. I know you guys are walking around doing a lot of stuff, but I was like, "Oh, that's where that goes. That's what that is." And that's kind of how it is. I would have never been exposed to DDC even, you know, spinning back to it was never even an option. I didn't have any any reason to go to the jail so much. But I am in DDC. I'm learning what the healthc care division does. Um they have the whole support section that they do. They have the inmate records, inmate property, all the stuff that's moving and shaking behind the scenes for the deputies in the jail. Um, property and evidence is another one that I didn't we we almost live there like which is funny because Kinda's there now. He's following around. He's a creeper. But um he's we go to property and evidence a lot and we do a lot of the accounts and we do a lot of the audits. We do um SWAT audits. I didn't even know my fun fact that I learned from SWAT. We check their explosives. So, you know, as an audit, we say, you know, you guys got I'm going to make these numbers up just whatever. So, you got 10 pounds of of C4, right? And on the first and but you blew up a couple things and some trainings, but now, you know, you said you use four and you should have six left. So, we have to make sure those numbers match. Um, which is kind of funny because we they were showing us the C4. They were like, you know, we hear C4 in the movie and stuff like that, but you know, you can have a C8, you can have a C12. It's just the way you build the the They all blow up. Yeah, it all blow up. Yeah. Where? So So it was kind of cool. I They showed us some stuff sometimes or whatever. But um you do an audit of like monster cans. As a matter of fact, don't even get me started on this one. I am the energy drink Nazi. And oh god, I can't say that right. I am like I'm like you cannot Okay, we're still against Nazis. Okay. Yeah, that's true. Okay, good. So I'm like you can't eat and eat. You can't drink energy drinks. They're not good for you. They're going to blow your heart up. So anybody who is around me drinking energy drinks, I'm like trying to tap them over and trying to smack it out of the swap then. Yeah, you they all know Debbles will tell you. That's hilarious. It's terrible. But yes, um Did did you get to blow anything up while you were counting? No, I stay I steer clear. They're amazing. They They are Everything is where it's supposed to be. They have, you know, you can detonate these things and you have the explosives here. So, they separate them completely. There's no It's unlikely, right? You anything could happen me around, right? But anyway, any they keep them separated. you count this, you count that, and you find out what's what's where and kind of thing. So, yeah. No, I didn't blow anything up. They they offered they were doing a training and you should have said yes. Yeah, that would be that would be like your dream job. Yeah. Be an auditor and then just write fun reports with journalistic flare. Oh, yes. It's more than it's more than just counting things. You're you're spending a lot of time with wherever you're inspecting. Oh, yes. So, we do a lot of observation. So the there's a lot of moving parts in um staff inspection. So the staff inspections number one when I go to the unit and I'm talking to everybody and I'm observing what they do and sitting with them and trying to because you do you hit every area of the whole agency every four years, right? Yeah. I would say we do crossing guards to general counsel and everybody in between and start over again. Yeah. And and getting all over again. And that is the the staff inspection is the title and that's exactly what we do. We make a report for each of those units every four years. But outside of that, when I can't say when we're not doing a staff inspection because we're almost always doing a staff inspection, um we do these audits and the and between those things and special reports and other things that we are doing, we count narcotics um safe money. We go in there and make sure that all their deputies are um accounting for the spend expenditures that they have. So narcotics. Okay. Well, we have to go to a bar and flash some cash and make this deal. They I got to get a lap or something, right? Yeah. They have to have to document. Wow. I bought some cocaine in the boom boom room, right? That works from there. So they um they have to document that and we have to, you know, show that they have not a receipt cuz we know we can't get a cannot get a receipt for that. May I have one drug? Give me a receipt. And they go into their little van and all that. Then they have to do that. One cocaine, please, ma'am. Can I can I write it off my taxes? Is that a write off? Yeah, it's not a write off. We're actually tax exempt. Here's my form. Can you sign this for me, please? I don't know if you're particularly worried about paying your taxes if you're buying drugs at the boom boom room. No kidding. That's how they always catch you, though. That's how they call Alapone taxes. That's the story. So how um obviously you have places like PR which were like 15 or 16 strong but then you're you're trying to cover so you're you're covering the bureau level or are you are you doing units or or how does it break down? Uh bureau level and then we break down in that bureau. So for example and sorry to all the captains that we hit when the for the special services because when I first started it was oh major love is she's in HR now right? But that was when we started she was in special services. I support services. I can fix that. Sorry. Um she had um special events which and I think special ops at the time. She had no special she was the captain special ops. So she had six different units that were okay. Oh yeah. Okay. So she has six units under her and we just what we have to do there's like a timing thing and a report thing. So we ask ask for um tell us all your accomplishments for the last four years, right? And so she she has to actually make a memo for that time six of all the units that she's in charge of. So once we do that report, we say, "Hey, you need to respond to all these reports we just did times six." Right. And then fast forward after you've gotten feedback from staff and everything, right? Yes. Yep. And then we do a follow-up. So she has to do it again. So those captains who have multiple people under them like sorry right now and we just got Captain Matthews and in the jail Kenzel was we had to get him. So and and we do you know piece by piece so it's kind of like your turn just get it over take the band-aid off right. Yeah. A lot happening. So So you're basically you're looking at a is there a certain percentage or ratio of some kind you're trying to meet? Like patrol for example? I mean that's huge right? Um, it's almost impossible to get patrol because so many moving parts. By the time you start patrol and get through these interviews, you might have some movement. You might have all kind of things that go on. So, we try to minimum 30%, but I'm an overachiever. My reckless 30% is a lot though. It is. Yeah. We don't want to send the sheriff a report that says we only spoke to 10 people, you know, like 20 20% of this group cares about this. Like, that's not enough. That doesn't sway the masses, right? You know, it's not enough. So what we want is, you know, a big enough people so that you don't have just that one group of friends who say we'll do it and then they all their opinion is in there instead of the other group that might have it's just a squeaky wheel. Exactly. Exactly. And that 30% is like who you interview and you ask different things about like um do you have what you need and and like I can't remember all the questions. I mean you've asked me twice in we ask about the morale in the unit. We ask about any equipment needs that they have. um any great ideas they might want to share or offer for the sheriff's office, not just for where they are, but anywhere, you know, anywhere. Um what's working, what's not working, um all those kind of things are just like a general thing and we don't um I just have to ask it generically. So I'm like, how do you how's your communication with your supervisor? And I say, which one? So if you have a big chain, you have a sergeant, a corp, excuse me, a corporal, sergeant, lieutenant, they might say, "Oh, you know, my sergeant's here all the time, but you know, my lieutenant, he's got he's pulled in 10 different directions, so we don't see them that much." Something like that is what they would say, but I you know, sometimes they're like, "Well, who do you mean?" I'm like, "Tell me whoever you want. I don't tell me." And then we ask the the catch-all question at the end is, you know, some people don't know what a staff inspection is. So I say, you know, we did this whole staff inspection. Was there anything that you thought I was going to ask you or you wanted to talk about? and they might say,"Well, I thought we were going to talk about whatever." So, let's talk about it then. You know, so those kind of things come up and um we also send out a survey. So, you know, some people may or may not be comfortable talking. So, back to my ADHD moment. I am an extrovert and I talk a lot and I'm the and I'm some people are not and and I just recently heard, you know, just an analogy of, you know, sometimes I'm too much for someone who may not be, you know, right? I'm sorry. so sorry if I was too much. But I, you know, usually I try to be as welcoming as possible and it's warm like I want you to tell me what it is because if we don't say it then it's just unsaid. If you know at some point or another the sheriff reads it and he's going to put it back in a steel trap somewhere and you know maybe he'll come back to it but at least you know he knows and you know whatever. So most people there's a question on there is like how do you feel about the agency as a whole and 99% I want to say there's just somebody that you're not going to you know make make happy. 99% of the people are like, "The sheriff is great. I know he's doing his best for this agency and this and I'm proud to be here and this is the best agency around." 99% of the people say that and then they complain about something else, right? But I want a beard. Yeah. But yes, things like that. We get that. We get the um the exterior load load bearing things for patrol. So you hear stuff like that. But overall, you know, we we are winning as an agency. I'm still super proud. I can't sway the staff inspection, but when people say they're happy to be here, I'm like, "Me, too." You know who who inspects the inspectors? Do you do you interview each other? Inspectors? Nope. Old ones. They do it in the mirror. Old ones. What do you mean? Um prior. Yeah. No. Um that's what I mean. What you mean gadget? Okay. Um Clay is did our last one. Um you mean literally inspector? Oh yeah. He's so nice though. Um Chrissy Johnson. Crystal Johnson is um she's she could do it too. So anybody who was a staff inspector in the past can come back. Um yeah, you get to see every part of the agency. Which which are your favorites? Like which or which ones do you have the most fun inspecting or not canine since you don't like dogs, right? And I'm allergic. So I go in there and I'm sneezing and crying. So that's terrible. Yeah. Yeah. Like that or even like what are some that you think other members should really like they don't realize, you know, what goes into it, right? Anything. You get to see everything. We We get to see everything, but you really get to see everything. I have to say the airport. I like the helicop the airport. The hanger, the flight unit. Yeah. Because I like the way they can zoom in and read your text messages and you have no idea they're in the sky. So, I thought that was pretty cool. Um, but they they do a really good job. You know, they are in conjunction with the K9. They're chasing people and seeing all this cool stuff and they're watching it from the top. I think that's a interesting perspective. And when I rode with him, oh, you know what, it was a while ago, so at the time it was um Smith, I think he Brian Smith, he he said he flies all the time, so he knows what the the from the top of the buildings look like. My orientation was so bad up there. I was like, where are we? Like he was like, that's that nest. I was like, yeah. No, right. I was like nothing looked the same, but he said it that that looked normal to him. Have you had any circumstances where you put something in a report and then you know a couple years later you saw that thing get fixed like things were people complaining about and then the sheriff read it and it's like oh I didn't know that I'm going to take care of that. Um uniform changes um come up a lot not only just the the vest but I think crossing guards finally got some new um they did they're in the works right now. Yeah they got their new um changes and then um and and that's so with the crossing guards as I understand it there there was a problem because a lot of the crossing guard population is is older. They were having a problem like putting the little pins through the shirts and that might have been a problem that you know, yeah, they might have been embarrassed to talk about or didn't think it was worthwhile talking about and then and then and then it went up and now they have embroidered shirts. They had to like take those things off in order to wash it and it's white and then to put them back on every single time. Your fine motor skills, it does go hard and they degrade over time. So yeah, that's fair. And um the other said they said that the brass would get hot standing in the sun cuz a lot of times they didn't have a lot of shade. So they did put some shade spots up for some of them who don't I mean we cuz I was standing on the side of like belure and where was I? Oh god. Yeah. Down there with them. Yeah. It was hot and I'm I'm in my book. I'm like there's my pit stains. I'm sweating. That's what I was thinking when you said 30%. I was like 30% of the crossing guards too. Yes. Yes. It was there's like 200 of those. That's a big one. blow the whistle and walk out there like no I wait I so I can't interrupt anybody's actual workflow I so it crossing guards have a big wave of kids that come you know the they pretty much that are walkers a lot of kids you know I grew up up north so we all walked everywhere it was not a thing but all these kids get dropped off all the time it seems like so there's a wave of walkers somehow or another and then once they're done they might have one or two stragglers so once you get that big wave through then they had enough time for me ask a couple questions and then get back for that one or two that would come by. But yeah, it was hot. It's like I get it. I get it. Yeah, they're tougher than all of us actually. Yeah, they are eating it cuz I'd be complaining. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh what's next for for you after staff inspections? I don't know. Yeah, I really I did take the sergeants exam. Okay. Hint hint wink wink. No, just kidding. Did you pass it? I did. I I'm going to assume with your 100% 100% 100% 100% pass. I'm ready to solve the puzzle. I don't even know how the grading works. So yeah, I um it was my first time taking it though. It it was a little um unnerving because there were a couple years ago when I was going to take it and I put my name on the list and then I think possibly um the change with CAC happened and then I was like I ain't get I'm not I'm not in right mind to try to do it now. Right. Got on got off the list and then another year went by and I was like, "Okay." And then I think the sheriff sent out that email and he was like, "You better take take it and pass it." You know, enough of this foolishness, right? So then I was like, "Challenge accepted, right?" I was like, "Cuz I don't fail any tests, right?" So I get all my all my stuff together and I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna get myself together." And I studied and studied and studied. So I did pass it. Yeah. 100% passed it. There we go. I like that. That was good. I 100% pass. I love that. So, Sergeant may be in the cards between now and never, I guess. Right. But I'm still very happy to be here. There's not one part of this agency that I think um that I wouldn't be happy at. And you know, I'll do my best anywhere. Of course, it is what it is. But there's got to be there's got to be a place that you want to There's got to be a place or a couple you're interested in or something maybe. Okay. To be fair, I would love Tis. In a perfect world, that would be awesome for me. I would absolutely love it. Tactical investigation section. Yeah. You love pulling people over over for drugs. And it's kind of like a a I was going to say I meant before I was like, you didn't go into narcotics with loving to get people for drugs. I should have. I just think at the at the time it was just no way I could have been in narcotics with with kids. I had kids in school. They were like, I know you're a son. I know you're and I know you're a deputy. Mommy, what's this in your purse? How come we at the strip club? What is the boom boom room? Yeah. Wait, is there a boom boom room? And eat. Is that what it's called? Is it? It was the chicka boom room. Close enough. That's not the same kind of place. Boom. Yeah, it says boom. Chicka boom. Boom. Boom. Works. Yeah. I just think at the time there was and it's always a timing thing I think because um I think at one point I was going to be able to come with y'all and then at CAC came up and not y'all but you know PIO um and at that time I was like I want CAC so bad and I was like oh I'll just go to CAC and then that that ship sailed but um but TI yeah but Tis would be I think fun for me or maybe like SRO I liked kids you know me yeah kids and drugs get them in line kids and drugs that's I think it'd be really good in t yeah what what do you like about tis what is it that appeals to you they are They're very organ. So I did their staff inspection. So there let's go back to that. I have again I have so many stories and so many different things I did. They just all come together at once and I might mix up a story. But anyway, when I was with Tis um they it was just really cool. They kind of had this minivan and they were kind of set up on this person and they all work together and they watch people. They just sit on them. They're they're not being dangerous. You know, normally we're kicking indoors. Not normally we but people are kicking indoors and going to to dangerous places to do stuff. No, they're going to come out sooner or later. They can find a ruse. they can get them out for whatever reason, but whatever, they'll just wait. So, they sit around, sit around, sit around and wait, and like, "Oh, they're on the move." And I remember that the time I was actually um observing them and riding with them. They followed some guy out randomly. He wasn't even supposed to be out. What happened was it started raining and I guess his son called and said, "Come pick me up because it's raining." That's what we found out later. They got in conjunction and kind of did the follow and followed him around the corner to the store to pick up his son. Curry at the time, I think it was. He the before the van even stopped, he was like slow rolling out the side of the door and had this man down on the ground. Now again, this is me on the outside looking in thinking this is so cool like TV, right? Like I can be that badass, right? I want to do this. I want to do this. Right? But good, not good. There was the little boy who had called to go home. He was got scared and he ran back into I think it was like a Family Dollar and he ran back into the store and I'm like where'd that little kid go? Where? So I go into the store like where'd that little boy go? So he was kind of standing in the back of the store all sad and God come give me a hug baby. So I was like um you know I grabbed his hand. I said it's okay. You know his dad is not hurt. He wants to make sure you're okay. Come out here and talk to him. And um he came back out and father was like it's okay honey it's okay but boy. Um and he was like are you okay? And he was like I'm fine. I'm fine. It's all right. And so it was kind of interesting the dynamics that kind of happened with that. So as much as that happens you still have that backstory that's going on and the tra the kids can be traumatized from something like that. But we didn't know. We just, you know, we were getting um Yeah. You got to do your thing. Yeah. You got to do your thing. And so hopefully I helped a little boy along. It was really nice. It was cute. And his parents came and got him and then it was not bad. But yeah, but Tis is just I do like the research they do. They they know what these people are doing. Lot of strategy. Yeah. And and I think that's the the good fun part of it. And safe apprehensions. Nothing, you know, there was he didn't have enough time to think. He was out of that van before it even happened. Yeah. So that I mean that that's these are all people that have like warrants for their arrest. They did something dangerous. It's not just the other thing I just think is cool about Tis if they ever needed like an embedded you know PR person I'm I'm the one. Nice. But uh me and you we got it. Yeah we got it set up. Um and I can shoot a little bit and drive. Um but uh but they also go after you know if we got to get somebody we got to find this person. Yes, you know that's who they're calling. It's his and they're on it. you know, they went after when they were trying to track down Hartwick's killer, all those things. Like, it's his that's it. Not and of course, they're all very good at what they do. But it's also just the way they operate. Yeah. And you have to have a good group of people to trust and understand and work good working relationship. And I think they're pretty good together. Um, I think my first experience was CAC with them. Um, crimes against children when I was a detective. If they wanted to do a search warrant or something, Tis would sit on the house for days before he goes to work at 6:00, he comes home at 5:00. you know, and they knew. So when we went to go hit the house, we knew who was in that house. It was just a team effort. Yeah. So when you talk about the peripherals of patrol and the things that people do and and just all the other things that happen in law enforcement that it's just kind of like amazing if you don't know. Yeah. Hopefully hopefully the citizens academy might get seen with that and see. Yeah, they do. They a little bit good. Not all the good stuff. A little bit. I like to jump in on y'all and get food and Yeah. You're welcome. Anytime. Anytime. Yeah. Citizens Academy. I'm in the back like, "Hi guys." I'm hitting getting a plate. Sorry. So, your are your kids all uh are they all out of the house or you still got some we're dealing with? This is This is transitioning to what do you do for fun? All right. Okay. Well, good. No. Well, um backstory. There was a cute lady and you know what someone tells me and this is kind of a good thing. Seek wise counsel, right? You ever heard that that term? Somebody who's been there, done that. Don't ask somebody who's where you are. get somebody who's seen the end of the story somewhere or a little bit further into the story. So, I remember telling this lady, I was like, "Well, when they're 18, they'll be out and I'll be done. I've done my job, right?" And she said, "Girl, bye. My son is 40 and I still take care of him, right?" You know, or and I was like, "Oh, damn it. It's for life. They're mine." Right? Right. So, I do have older children home. So, I have two adult children and two um minor children. And then I have um my stepson and my um I have two stepsons and an adult stepdaughter. Um, so we have a blended family now of seven children. My adult daughter is married. My my adult stepdaughter is out and married. My um adult stepson is in the Coast Guard. So I just have my adult daughter, biological daughter and my adult step, excuse me, my adult son, Jesus, we got to fix this somehow, right? Hope seven kids. Yeah, exactly. Um, they're both home. Somebody told me, you know, it's so hard. You can't buy a house out here. You just can't afford anything. and they, you know, they got to get themselves together. Um, they probably would kill me if I told too many stories, so I'm going to try to bite my lip, but they are very good kids. I I I am blessed and fortunate to have such an abundance of love in and a family of of just kids who get along. They're not causing any trouble, and they just got to figure their adult lives out somehow or another. Um, so, and they're lucky to have you. A togetherness, huh? Yes. Yes. So, what what do you like to get into for fun outside of work? What do you do? Oh god, just a I know you're a pretty intense bike rider. Yeah. So, two parts to that story and I I don't know if what what months this goes in or not, but um this we I recently had a a terrible experience, but so I cannot ride this year, right? Um for the unity tour. Yeah, for the police unity tour. There's a um And tell us what the police unity tour is. Um it's a bike ride from uh for fallen officers. So nationwide fallen officers um they do a bike ride fundraiser to to raise awareness and raise money for the the memorial that is in DC. So we take a bike ride. It's just about 275 or 270 miles from Virginia into DC. So it's three days you know the first first day is like 110 miles. The second day is 80 and then the third is you know 70 something days or something weird like that. Um hour miles miles. We got you. Keep going. You're good. All right. So, we go we do that bike ride and we ride into DC and and it's so amazing. And if um Jackie Kaplan and um Jason Jackson were doing I want to say not Discovery Day, but one of the night PCs night outs. What do you call it? National Night Out. National Night Out. They were they had a fundraising tent there one time and I brought my kids to it and I saw them and I saw the bike and I'm thinking, "Oh, that looks cool." And they were like, "Oh yeah, we we ride this bike ride." And they were like, "Well, you're you're athletic. You can ride a bike." And I'm like, "Yeah, I know how to ride a bike. I can do this." Right? They didn't tell me like you had done with like with you when you were a um CPO. Oh yes. You had like specialized bike courses, right? That was so very different. So yes, I I can ride a bike, right? Who doesn't know how to, you know, skin your knee, ride a bike, whatever. But that's a mountain bike with big wheels and, you know, knobbyby tires, I imagine. Right. So we that's what I learned how to ride on my entire life. I didn't know that road bikes were different than that and they have little skinny tires and they don't, you know, they're not as forgiving when you when you try to change terrain, right? So, it had a couple spills to get that figured out. So, yes, the the CPO unit and the bike, they they taught us a lot. We rode down some stairs. How do you ride a bike downstairs? I don't know. Just go just go and and and hold on tight. All right. Maybe how do you stop a bike when you get to the bottom of the stairs? I believe they're supposed to be there. No, hopefully not. I don't know. You want to stop? Yeah. Oh, you I think you're supposed to get to the end and then try to, you know, kick off to the side and stop the the the trajectory of the bike and change the angle. Maybe go a little slower. But I think I did it. I survived. Yeah. But yeah, it was it was really cool. They went down a couple of like, you know, shallow stairs first time just to get the feel of the bumper bump and they were like, "Here's here's it. You got to do the the big stairs if you you know, you want to pass this course." And I'm like, "That's impossible. That cannot be the way. No, there's no way. Somebody would die. But, you know, you're not I'm not gonna fail. You know, I'm too too competitive. So, I jump in and I'm thinking, "Well, if I die, it's gonna if I die, I die." So, I said, "Okay, I'll go do this thing." And I start at the top and it was a class of like 12 of us. I think I could be more. But anyway, um I wasn't the first one CPO. Okay. Okay. And I was like, "Okay, I watched two people do it, right? So, I got to watch somebody else do it successfully because then I know I get the courage, right?" So, but I did it and it was not bad and it and it was in somewhere in Clear Water, some steep set of set of stairs that go all the way down to like this weird alley kind of thing. And it it wasn't bad. It was fun. So, I got my weight up. I'm a better rider now. I'm a certified IPA bike rider. I'm all that. So, then um here goes this bike ride. Distance and speed are what they want. So, I can ride a bike, but I didn't know where my wall was. So, here I am thinking I'm gonna keep up with this team. And they do 15 miles an hour, 70 mile rides, 75 mile rides, 50 mile ride, whatever it is. They do they Saturday we're going to go 50 miles, right? Uhhuh. So, the first time I went with them, I was I had my husband on speed dial. I was like, if I die, you know, it's whatever. So, we rode, we rode, we rode. And right around like 28 or 30 miles, I hit my wall. I was like, "Just go, just go." And I told my husband, "Come pick me up." So, after like 12, come pick me up. So, I was like I was like, "Fuck this. I'm not I'm not riding with y'all anymore because it's embarrassing." So, I just started riding by myself and I was like, "I am not they're not going to embarrass me anymore. I'm going I'm going. I'm going." So, finally, I just figured out I think it was like some kind of hydration thing. You had to take these um what is this? Some of them are like um energy um gummy things or whatever. Like, not those gummies. But anyway, so you go so you could those would help you get along, but it's like carbs and all that stuff. So I was reading what to eat, preparing and making sure I did it and then I was able to go and no one told me. So they told me it was like 100 miles, right? So I thought I had to ride 100 miles straight. I remember riding and I was scared to put my foot down and take a drink of water because I didn't want to stop my time. I thought I couldn't stop for this. So I was practicing like that to do a 100 miles non-stop. So that first year I killed it. I was a beast. I was like it was like doing insanity, right? cuz I was I was overprepared for the academy when I did it. But um so now I I can But what what do they actually do? Like 20 30 miles, take a break. Okay. Yes. No one told me. So when it was time to take a break, I'm like, "Why are we taking a break? What? I'm not prepared. What are y'all doing?" Yeah. You need a break? So it was terrible. But so the bike ride, I do love that. And I still um ride even with the team. Sometimes I try to keep up with them and I still fundra with them. I'm still a part of the team, but this year I can't ride. That's terrible event. But um but then I also like running. So running was first. I was always a a runner back my cheerleading track days, right? So um after my I don't know divorced, actually married, divorced, remarried kind of thing. But um during my first divorce, I needed something to do. I needed to burn some energy. So I started running and um I saw one of the we was doing a detail actually and it was a 5K detail. I'm on a post and I saw actually it was Kelman's he might not I'm sorry name dropping but it was deputy excuse me Corporal Kelman had um was running by and I'm like I know that face and he was like oh yeah I do these all the time whatever he's like eating it for breakfast I was like start running right so and that's literally what got me going. Yeah. Side note that's actually a good one. Okay so side note I run now all the time but I made it a goal to try to run one 5K in every state. So, I'm doing 50 by 50 by 50 is what I want to do, right? So, I'm going to do 50 states before I turn 50 and 5K in all the states, right? In Utah, we were I went to Utah to run. There's a place in Utah where Forest Gump did his famous I think I'll stop now. Turn around, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't know that was a thing, but apparently that's what it was. So, how many states have you gotten through? I'm at 23ish cuz I did Canada. So Canada doesn't count because it's not a state, but I'm international. So uh All right. So So you just you'll just fly in just for a 5K. You'll find one you want to do and just go do it. Yes. So my friends laugh at me because I'll I'll fly Spirit. I don't care. Whatever. I'm not scared of Spirit. I'm not scared. I'm not scared of Breeze. We'll do it. If it's a cheap flight direct, I'm going to run. Give me a seat. Yeah. Give me a seat. Breeze was as big as my my I call it a SU van. Do you ever see the Kia Carnival, right? It's like this is what it is. Thank you. It's like an executive transport vehicle. The seats recline. I don't have one, but I've seen one and I'm like, damn, if that didn't look like a minivan, I'd drive it. I It's an SU. Just kidding. Um, they are so nice. But the Breeze airplane looked as big as that. No bigger than that. When when you're ready for like, "Hey, what'd you have for lunch?" Just trying to check weights. It's not a good sign. what it was the the pilot came out from the front. He was like, "Hey, I'm Tyler." He was like, I was like, "But he's 10." Yeah. And then he was like, "We're going to This was to the police unity tour a couple years ago." And he was that was the only direct flight. And he goes, "I'll have you into Richmond in about two hours, but we were going to Norfolk. We weren't even going I was like, uhoh, I got in the wrong band. I was like, I'mma die. But I started praying and we was like, okay, made it safely. It was actually a nice flight. But it was Yeah. Why they call it spirit? You're trying to stay in touch. Mhm. Oh, good. That's awesome. Yes. And you like to try new things. And I I heard I heard that you have added actress to your resume. Oh my gosh. How did that happen? Tell it with the accent. Tell it with the accent. Oh my goodness. I've been to that part of Boston. Yeah. Yeah. There's that section. I back to my reckless ambition, right? I had nothing to do on the weekend, right? And my husband go, "Well, let's find something." So, he opened the phone and he looked for Google what to do in St. Petersburg this weekend. He said, "Do you know they do an audition for Margaritavville?" And I said, "Audition? What is that?" how do you do an audition? And he says, um, we just go. He said, just show up. The audition. So, it's like a theater company. Okay. In Largo. Okay. I'm going go in and out. I've heard of it. Um, yeah, you do. Can I name drop? Yeah. Okay. Of course. Um, Director Crockett's daughter was there, um, Paige, and I had I know I knew who she was because I actually did her staff inspection right before she left, but when she came back, it it was in a different thought process, but um, so I met her during that, which is very, very cool. Um, but they said they wanted a um, a Caribbean woman um, who is going to be like the the bartender type thing. Um, so all the way back in Boston when I was there, I had a best friend from Jamaica and this is how her mother talked to us all the time. She said you it's time to go. Your company got to go home now. So that's what she was say. So I said I can do an accent pretty good. I am going to go audition for this even though I have no talent and no skill, right? So they said begg. They said bring a head shot. And I said I don't have a head shot. That's a sign photo. Yeah. No. And they said, "Bring our resume." I said, "Our resume of what?" Well, I work at the sheriff's office. There's no I don't have anything for you. So, I go and I said, "Listen, I just want to try because I can do a really good accent. Forget it." And I can sing. They were It was like a singing pot. They wanted me to sing and try. So, I said, "Okay." And they let me do the entire audition. No accent. They never heard it. I didn't even try it at the audition part. Not smart. I know. But they called me back, I don't know, a couple days later and they said, "We want to have you here for a call back." And I said, "Okay, I'll be there. I don't know what it is, but I'll be there." And I got off the phone. I said, "What is a call back?" I had to Google it because I didn't know what that meant. And I said, and the Google said, "They like you. They want you to see some more what you got there." So I said, "Okay, I go. Time for the accent to come out." So So that's what I did. I went back to the audition and they made us like read the script and they said, "We want you to read it with your accent." So, I did the whole thing with it and they were like, "Okay, you're sold. We'll take it. Done. Where do we sign?" Yeah. So, I used my fake accent all the time and and it was so good. That show like sold out. Now, I'm going to tell you that it was amazing because I would I don't know that I would ever be able to do something like that again. The cast was amazing. It was so fun. It was so lively. And it was right on the heels of Jimmy Jimmy Buffett actually dying. That was So, it was kind of like people wanted some of that. Yeah, it did. Yeah. Absolutely. Right. And I'm like, "Yeah." Uh-huh. Was he dead or did he was a diabetic coma? Just need a cookie. He just need He's just laying there holding a piece of sponge cake, you know. He needs some sponge cake. Oh, wow. That's messed up. This is my my most recent um new thing. That's a new thing. So, what's next? I have no idea. I don't know. I don't I don't know. I don't think it would be fun again. I It was a crazy once in a lifetime experience that all What new crazy thing do you want to try that you haven't done before? You're always going. This is fascinating. I know. I don't know yet. No. You said you were going to try line dancing. You try that yet? Not yet. No, I haven't tried it. So, I'm trying to get some friends. Any any You got to work a different accent for that one. I don't think I have a I don't I do say y'all a lot, but No, I'm laughing too hard. I don't have it. Hey y'all, you want to go line dancing? Yeah. Come on, girl. But yes, I I I have to look the part though. I'm gonna get the cowboy boots that I get and it's got to be a lot of glitter, right? I'm gonna go some rhinestones. But I have to practice first. And so my but my stepson who's in the Coast Guard, he's the one who is like he loves it and go line dancing. Yeah. He showed me a couple of um things and I was like, "Give me the easy ones." That's awesome. Well, uh you're a lot of fun, Saya. I knew you would be. That's why he wanted you to come on the podcast so bad. No, it's great. It's fantastic. I think we all had we all had a blast. Um, we uh also like to give all of our guests an opportunity. If there's something that you think the public needs to know about about the sheriff's office, about law enforcement in general, it can be a safety tip, it can be anything, something you experience, anything. Like, what is something that you think the public needs to know? And I know this was coming, right? Oh my god, this is not even going to match, but I'm going to say it. I don't care. Yeah, they need to match for the sheriff's office or just for the community in general. Um, it's hard to find help for juveniles. So, um, I know we have a broken system somewhere in between the help that they need and the help that they actually get. So, if you are a loving, caring person and you like kids, try to foster some kids and give them a loving loving home or somewhere that at least somebody is get putting some good investment. I think the more positive adults in a child's life gives them a better kickstart for life. So that's my That was a good one. That was a really good one. That's all I got. That was great. That was a really good one. We haven't had that one before. We always have some mix of some of the other things, but that was that was good. That was deep. Yeah. Didn't need to match. It's perfect. Okay, good. Cuz it Yeah, that's my heart. Take care of kids. Mhm. Easy peasy. All right. Well, uh, we appreciate our listeners and there are of course ways that you can reach us to give us feedback, to ask us questions, to recommend folks for the podcast. Uh, and, um, we're on Instagram, uh, 56 podcast, all spelled out as the handle. Um, but you can also send us an email. Laura, where might they send that email? Uh, they might and should send it to let's 56pcset.com. That's56pcset.com. Until next time. Thanks for listening everybody. [Music] [Music]