listen we're not going to discuss this right okay i i i know and that's the problem is that we are at a point where police don't want to discuss anything you're going to lay your heavy hand on people you're going to assault you're going to kidnap you're going to extort and what do you think the people should do when we can't communicate with you we're not going to have this discussion okay i already explained to you i'm not going to do you realize how dangerous it becomes when we stop having a discussion i think you're winning i think we're losing and you're winning yeah you know why because you are willing to use any amount of violence against us to get us to stop keeping you accountable and we on the other hand at least me personally i'm not willing to return the violence against you but you know what i think there's a lot of people who see what you're doing who may be different than me does that make sense i need his name too can i get your name buddy come on over here no no i can't read it from there quit being a smart ass get over here and give me your name i bet i was polite to you we're past [Music] that okay on the evening of saturday march 14th david boren and i spotted this traffic stop in rockwall texas so we pulled over to record it it's extremely important to us to be able to record everything from multiple different angles in order to pick up as much video and audio as we possibly can [Music] um [Music] [Applause] um [Applause] [Music] [Applause] me all right [Music] [Applause] [Applause] all right guys so we're on this traffic stop in rockwall texas when we pulled up he was pulling the guy out of the car and patting him down now they're standing here talking [Applause] i believe the officer did call for backup as soon as we got here [Applause] no that's not the law shut up and do your job he's telling he's saying that he wants both of us on one side or the other he's trying to dictate where we can and can't [Music] stand [Music] so now he's calling for backup if you guys could start phone calls right now to rockwall police department and let them know hey these guys are just recording stop trying to tell them where they can and can't stand and just shut up and do your job if somebody wanted to hurt you they'd hurt you without you would never see them [Music] if you guys could please start calls to rockwall police department already before the backup gets here and acts stupid we got you unit number 18-5 rockwall police department and he's trying to tell david that uh he wants us both on one side or the other and that's too bad it doesn't matter what he wants we want him to we want him to go home and stop extorting people but you know we don't always get what we want right we don't always get what we want backup is right there [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] backup's got a hell of a mustache listen man go over there with him on that side sir they've already refused to comply with that i need you both on the same side okay is that a lawful order at this point this officers interfered with my duty to document my public servants my camera never left the intended subjects until he came up and started barking orders that i believed may be backed by a gun for my safety he has forced me to turn my attention to him and away from the traffic stop that i'm supposed to be watching yes because i have to be able to watch you vote that's not a law i need you over there what's your name sir what's your name sir what are you going to do to me if i don't sir what will you please walk to that side for me voluntarily no if you're telling me you're going to do something violent to me if i don't then sure i'll comply with whatever you do i just need you at a safe distance so i can be keep eyes on both of you okay if you're telling me that you're going to do something violent if i don't do what you're saying then i'll do it otherwise i'm going to continue what i'm doing so what's i'm telling you i just need you guys both over on that side you need her one i need you okay and so if i can control where you are if you're going to be this close to my partner and so if i don't do what you tell me to do what are you going to go to jail for interference okay i will or i can you can i'm giving you the opportunity i don't want to put you in okay but if i don't move you're going to take me to jail yes sir okay and your name is hartman hartman and your badge number 987 okay and so if you're not going to allow me to record i am allowing you to record over there at that side so i can keep an eye on you and if i don't move over there you're going to take me to jail go ahead that's a yes or no i already told you the answer to that how's it going are you the supervisor no sir okay can we get the supervisor out here as i move over to the side that hartman threatened me to move to david moves around the front of the stop to move to the other side at this point david has not dealt with officer hartman and doesn't realize how dangerous of a power trip hartman is on he is going to dictate what camera shots we get of this traffic stop and he is willing to use any amount of force to get his way huh yeah please immediately i appreciate it and if we can get him called off immediately as well if somebody wanted to hurt your officers they'd be hurt okay look i appreciate it thank you we got goff here calling for the supervisor see this he needs to back off back him off now as you can see at this point they are nowhere near the stop but hartman continues to aggressively approach david pushing him farther and farther away until he finally reaches out to grab his camera back him off back him off [Applause] now all three officers take their attention away from the traffic stop to attack the cameraman guys get off him stay with me as soon as officer goff notices that ian bruce has joined the dog pile he immediately says ian stay with him telling him to go back to his traffic stop but ian doesn't go back to his traffic stop he goes to the other cameraman stay with me don't touch him get off of him get back get off him get your hand off your gun notice after being told to go back to his traffic stop ian now has his back to his traffic stop as he watches his fellow officers and yells at me [Applause] god you're an idiot i'm not going near them i got to get the shot i've got to get the shot don't prevent me from videoing what they're doing to him the cameras are going you have to stay back i'm back this is the first time that officer bruce thought to turn around and look at his traffic stop since he ran away to join the dog pod out of control bro you guys are out of control you guys are freaking idiots rockwall police department you're a freaking idiot dude you're an idiot you guys are morons he's saying you cannot flank us you're not allowed to do that you cannot flank us in other words they are arresting him for being behind him he's arresting him for being behind him or detaining him hey we got the supervisor rolling right all right thank you sir stop nobody's gonna touch you if we wanted to hurt you you'd never see us you you freaking idiot if someone was gonna hurt you you'd never [ __ ] see them you would just drop hey uh canine boss can i stand with you can i stand with you i'm all right i'm not gonna hurt anybody okay nobody is can we get him out of cuffs immediately please not right now man you know that it's not illegal for him to be behind anybody well this is out of control dude it is a supervisor no it's not about zero this guy man where's his de-escalation man he came out to escalate there's two of us man well the thing is is when y'all are moving around on both sides of him it distracts you know he's not able to effectively safely i disagree we thought it preposterous that a silent non-interfering onlooker could have distracted the officers from safely completing their traffic stop we concluded that no reasonable police officer could believe that he had arguable probable cause to arrest such an onlooker in this situation for obstruction of governmental operations or for any other purported crime and there's no law that we can't do that well if whenever whenever you constantly force him to divert his attention away from the duties he's performing then like you really don't know what happened before i got here do you realize how many times this has played out in court and been ruled on that a cameraman recording is not is is not a reasonable thing that you can say diverts you from what you're supposed to be doing but whenever whenever you're so close and like he says he feels like you're flanking him but this officer was here remember he was calling the supervisor when his fellow officer attacked a photographer more than a hundred feet away from the traffic stop but really we need to get this guy out of cuffs and we need to get the animal dude he ran after him he chased him and tackled it for having a camera we were talking well if somebody were to trying to attack me i'd run too can we get him dude this is ridiculous he shouldn't be near my body man if somebody wanted to hurt your officers do you realize how i mean i could i could hit them i wouldn't but just saying minimum 200 yards right well you're talking about like taking a shot this isn't a safety issue that's what i'm saying here's the deal is i mean you know are you familiar with four science institute at all with what for science institute i don't think so no well it i mean it's it's real they do everything is based on you know they it's literally science as far as things like what's the effective kill range of someone with a knife right right and 21 feet is that's actually been up it's around 28 feet okay but that doesn't change the fact that it's still legal and lawful for us to be recording within a distance that we can pick up both both video and audio of what you guys are yeah but what i'm saying is you know 30 feet is you are still able to advance on an officer and that's what an officer already focused on you you know what i'm saying but that doesn't make it illegal for me to do it no it's it's illegal for you to film and it's even completely legal to film from that distance well i mean again we've got to be able to be close enough to pick up both video and audio of what's actually going on without interfering and interference is a physical thing again but i wasn't here i don't know what happened you know before i got here i can't nothing i can't talk about nothing so he was on that side when you pulled up he was on that side i was on that side the reason we do that is because sometimes they'll walk to both sides of the vehicle to try to avoid being recorded so we have somebody on both sides so that whichever side you go to our only goal is to record nobody said anything to him he decided that he didn't want us on either side of him okay that's fine if that's what he wants that's too bad though right so he has a second person come out well now he should be more comfortable you can watch him he watches me if that's what you feel you need to do the problem is you don't even need to watch us again if we wanted to hurt him he didn't even see us pull up right he didn't even know we were here if we wanted to hurt him i'm not saying we would but if we wanted hurt him he'd be hurt right i mean any of us right somebody wants to hurt me if somebody wants to kill me right now i'm dead right same with you be ambushed yeah same with you same with him same with me if somebody wants to hurt you they're not going to come up and be in plain sight pointing a camera at you from 20 feet away right i mean that doesn't make any logical sense does it does does a lot of things that happen in this world make logical sense these days buying toilet paper for kovid19 no not no a lot of things don't make logical sense we got the super he's not taking him in is he i'm not sure he better be temporarily detained for officer safety not arrested i do have a supervisor on the way okay all right i can't imagine what he thinks he would arrest him for uh actually he's he specifically said it but this guy i need his name too can i get your name buddy come on over here no no i can't read it from there quit being a smart ass get over here and give me your name i bet i was polite to you we're past that i met the other day what's your name i what is it what is your name you can't read man it's officer bruce are you kidding dude you see and they want respect officer bruce yes sir thank you so officer bruce was the one who was preventing me from getting the shot of them tackling and arresting david right telling me get back get back get back that's for their safety when they're dealing with another yeah yeah exactly again if somebody wanted to hurt you they'd hurt you without you even knowing they were there you're going to arrest him huh said he wanted you to have those all right and the reason we need to get close enough to get audio is to be able to hear things like what this officer said and he was being arrested for being behind an officer being in a posi in a place in a public setting that the officer didn't like him being while recording hey you're a clown dude you're a clown stop being so scared he's still looking over his shoulder like he's scared to death or something hey can i get your name man stuart stewart all right thanks try and get everybody and you weren't here when he was tackled no i just pulled up okay he's already in handcuffs all right are you still scared are you are you still scared quit acting like a [ __ ] all right you're a grown-ass man you are a grown man start acting like it all right mother ought to slap the [ __ ] out of you how you doing tonight good stock up on toilet paper i'm just kidding me neither is this a supervisor hey thanks man have a good night you go sit in timeout quit acting like a scared little biotch [Music] are you ashamed of yourself you should be not as ashamed as this guy though this guy should be really ashamed of himself you're not the clown that tackled him but you're the guy that called the clown that tackled him you're gonna let him arrest him yes what's uh what's the charge i i don't know i wasn't here so okay can we ask him what the charge is he'll i'll get that from here so we're arresting him we don't even know what the charge is yet he does i do not i just showed up you're the supervisor you're not going to make sure there's no unlawful arrest by saying hey what's the charge i believe in my guys and i trust them if these guys can be believed in and trusted and don't need any oversight then what's the point of the supervisor position it sounds to me as if this woman's job is completely unnecessary really yep do you have a com complaint about oh i mean you know i'm not going to actually file it with the department i file it with the public okay all right and then well then where business is done here so we're gonna get out of here what's your name sergeant o'brien yeah i'll take that [Applause] and you're gonna let him your your boy take him to jail and you understand that for opposition 100 confident in their ability okay you understand that officers are becoming less and less safe because of stuff like this right okay have a good day all right i think you're winning i think we're losing and you're winning yeah you know why because you are willing to use any amount of violence against us to get us to stop keeping you accountable and we on the other hand at least me personally i'm not willing to return the violence against you but you know what i think there's a lot of people who see what you're doing who may be different than me we begin with breaking news in dallas texas where at least five police officers were killed when they were ambushed by at least two snipers six other officers and a civilian were injured as you mentioned the gunfire erupted in downtown dallas with no warning turning this place into a war zone still very much resembling one right now officials saying the intent of the shooters was to kill as many officers as possible stop nobody's gonna touch you if we wanted to hurt you you'd never see us you