well I'll call your representative now whether Kathleen is your representative or not this bill affects every single person in the entire United States this is a bill that she is carrying that says that if we as the government deem you to be annoying we no longer have to fill your records requests it's House Bill 139 in the state of New Mexico introduced by Kathleen Kates 505986 4432 I'll throw it in the chat call your representative this is ROM Christian with House Representatives thought I might just stop by Santa Fe and try and speak with her in person um about one of these bills and ask her why she hates America gotcha yeah um well I can take down a message for you if you'd like um well specifically I wanted to talk to her about hb1 139 which is a bill that she's carrying where in section uh just keep in mind I'm I'm I'm going to try to take notes so okay cool let's make it short um HB 139 HB 139 uhhuh okay section 24 okay and then question why do you hate America you know people are always like well if you have a problem with it call your representative there you go see what good that does you huh let's look at this legislation that she has proposed section 24 vexatious requesters a public body May file a petition asking the state Commission of public records to request relief from a person that the public body claims is a vexatious requestor there's a whole lot in in that one little phrase right there a public body meaning any government entity a police department the city of sanf the City of Albuquerque cfd Child Services any government entity May file a petition asking the state Commission of public records now a state Commission of public records does not currently exist so we're going to be creating a brand new government Body by the way more government jobs that you're going to pay for asking the state Commission of public records to request relief from a person that the public body claims as a vexatious requestor to request relief saying we don't have to fill public records for this person because we claim they're a vexatious requestor oh this is good this is real good vexatious causing or tending to cause annoyance frustration or worry so if you annoy them or frustrate them or cause them to worry by requesting your public records then they can submit to this brand new government entity that you're annoying that they don't like you and therefore they should not have to fill your public records requests you can't make this up this is presented by Kathleen Kates let's go back and let's just put it into layman's terms if we don't like you we don't have to give you your records not only do you already pay all of these people to to do certain things for you as Servants of the public they refuse to do it and now they're saying let's hire more people at your expense to make it easier for us not to serve you they're going to use it there are news agencies who will make hundreds of public records requests in a month I talked to someone who works for krq at that time when I was talking to him we were in the middle of the month and he had already requested made over 40 public records requests to the City of Albuquerque for the purposes of disseminating news to the public the City of Albuquerque hates them for that make no mistake the news agencies will be put on the on here as vexatious requesters any body who is requesting information especially to help the public see things that the government is doing that they shouldn't be doing you will definitely be a vexatious requestor according according to them it will contain a description of the conduct the government entity claims demonstrates that the respondent is a vexatious requestor which may include a description of conduct directed towards public bodies other than the one filing the petition a description of conduct directed toward public bodies it doesn't even have to be about making public records requests any conduct directed towards public bodies can be used to determine that you are a vexatious requester anybody that they think is annoying or frustrating to the government no matter whether you're making public records requests or not you'll be put on a list saying you don't get to make public records requests because you're annoying and frustrating no Discovery may be allowed on a petition to declare a person of exous request her so once you have been determined to be a vexatious requestor once you have been determined to be annoying to the government no public body shall be obligated to respond to requests for inspection of public records from a person who has determined to be a vexatious requestor for 3 years after the designation is made so once the government designates that you are annoying you are no longer entitled to any public records from any public entity anywhere in the state of New Mexico for 3 years the state Commission of public records shall maintain on the commission's website an alphabetical list of all the persons ever declared to be a vexatious requestor and copies of all decisions petitions filed under this section it's HB 139 section 24 if your government thinks you're annoying now this annoyance can be based on all types of things including conduct directed towards public bodies like for example if you go into a city hall meeting and you tell the mayor and all of the city Council you guys are all trash you're all a bunch of criminals you're all a bunch of thugs screw you and then you go and make open records requests for documents proving that they are actually Thugs and criminals who don't obey the law then they'll they'll file a petition and say oh look you know this guy he's vexatious he even said in our public meeting that he hates us he's clearly vexatious we don't have to give him records showing that we're breaking the law have any of you guys called her office yet the Municipal League of New Mexico is trying to push these uh anti-transpirant to their benefit and it keeps biting them in the ass they keep getting sued and losing because they're taking AJ Forte's advice matter of fact I think I've got his phone number here that's AJ this is one of the guys that's pushing uh pushing this stuff it's AJ Forte you've reached AJ leave me a message and I'll get back to you as soon as I can at the tone please record your message when you finished recording you may hang up or press one for more options hey AJ um just making sure I got the right ajs AJ Forte hey this is James um I've got some questions and concerns about some bills that I'm told that the uh um the municipal League might be trying to push through if you could please give me a call back we can discuss it my phone number is thanks a lot AJ I'll talk to you soon AJ hates Freedom you think that AJ will find me annoying and frustrating you think I'll cause him worry that is his government phone as well guys you pay for that phone the lie that they tell you all is that they are only taking your money to use it to serve you to do things for you to help you and therefore if if what they say is true that they have only taking your money to help you then certainly that phone number that you pay for you would have every right to reach out to him on that phone and say hey AJ gosh golly darn AJ I I don't think what you're doing here is serving my best interests can you help me understand that I'm sure that AJ Forte is one who got into a government position to do good things for you to help you so there's Kathleen Kates 505986 4432 House of Representative this is Ron Christian hello hello I'm sorry who's this this is Ron Christian with the House of Representatives Ron Christian ROM r yes how you doing today ROM doing good how are you sir I'm doing good I'm looking for Kathleen Kates yeah um I'm answering the phone her Legislative Assistant is away from the desk right now uh can I take a message for you uh yeah I left a message earlier is she um maybe it would be best if I just come up there when when will she be in the office so I can just come up in person I really don't know we're not sure what's going on with the Committees right now um normally the representatives would be in committee but none of the Committees are happening right now so there's a potential that they're all together in a meeting somewhere but I'm not getting confirmation on that oh something shady is that no I doesn't sound dramatic it just sound like like a surpr like a unexpected um call for the representatives but that's just your say I don't know okay um yeah so are they all okay yeah yeah okay I'm sure all right yeah I I run a podcast and I was just uh we're we're teaching classes today to a a Homeschool Group as well as a broader audience and so we're trying to help people understand how government works and what it does and uh one of the things that we're focusing on is the uh New Mexico legislature um and we were teaching about how the government takes your money by threats force and violence and uses it to harm you further um okay so um is that and they in an emergency meeting no I didn't say emergency okay I don't even know if the information I got is accurate okay do you okay do you think that there's a possibility that maybe something wonderful is happening such as maybe they've all joined a CO cult and they're all about to drink Kool-Aid together I think that uh we live in a realm of possibility so anything is possible yes yes we can only hope am I am I right my friend are you at the capital today right now no I'm not you said come up here like did you mean come up to the office or come up to the capital yeah I'm not up to both is the office at the capital yes yeah both I'm not I'm not there today I'm thought I might just stop by Santa Fe and try and speak with her in person um about one of these bills and ask her why she hates America gotcha yeah um well I can take down a message for you if you'd like um what do you think yeah sure so what is your name it's James um but I'll tell you what um you seem like a pretty cool guy I'll give you my name that all my friends actually called me it's Grande Grande yeah and that's what my friends friends call me nice to meet you uh so what uh what is your phone number and then uh I can take down a whatever message you like to um well specifically I wanted to talk to her about hb1 139 which is a bill that she's carrying where in section uh just keep in mind I'm I'm I'm gonna try to take notes so okay so cool let's make it short um HB 139 HB 139 uhhuh okay section 24 okay and then question why do you hate America and that that should be short enough to get to the point because section 24 definitely hates America all right I got that um written down I don't think I'm directly in her District but she is carrying a bill that would apply to everyone in the state of New Mexico got it okay I'll make sure she gets the note okay thank you for calling Grande it was nice talking with you you too thank you sir all right bye bye bye if you guys wanted to call her office and ask I will also leave the information right here I'll call your representative now whether Kathleen is your representative or not this bill affects every single person in the entire United States because you don't have to be a New Mexico resident to get public records from New Mexico public bodies this is a bill that she is carrying that says that if we as the government deem you to be annoying we no longer have to fill your records requests