i'm gonna have to ask you to turn the video off please is that a law yes not not so much a law it's a rule oh oh okay workforce commission and the council of governments okay that makes sense then so what that would actually mean is that it's a company policy and therefore none of you can film in here but i can but we can restrict you to just this area right now no yes no you're from that whole area sir don't go in there sir no cell phone users guys i am not an attorney if it's legal services that you're looking for i put a link in the description to the legal services that i use these services can be used for a number of different things such as calling your attorney to find out about the local laws in your area that you need to know about as well as if you're ever given a civil citation you can use an app on your phone to submit the citation to your lawyers and they'll fight it for you there's a number of different packages or add-ons that you can choose from including id shield or firearms insurance when you use mylink to sign up i'm going to personally mail you a welcome package that you won't get if you sign up anywhere else hi can i help you uh i'm good just going to do a video of the area i'm sorry videos aren't allowed in here are you with the board the what board are you with the north central texas board i'm just with myself it's just me here sorry video in the video off here is that a law yeah yeah is that a state or a federal law oh yeah and as i stated this is a government office and you are not allowed to have video in here or pictures oh no in government yeah in government offices i can but [Music] oh nothing just wanted to do a video tour of the building and she told me that that's illegal it's not necessarily illegal but if we deal with the texas workforce commission and it's all got to go through proper channels in order to videotape because we deal with the public yeah exactly and that's why i'm allowed to videotape in here it's a public building accessible to the public and uh i mean there's even case law uh in the area turner versus driver i just do i do tours of all government buildings and interactions with all government employees and that's just what i do yeah people are interested in what their what their government is doing and um even at times when they're not expecting us to come and see them but i got to get permission first from texas workforce commission order to allow you to videotape anything of whether or information and we have customers in here that want to be private also right it's actually a public office so there's no there's no expectation of privacy in public now i wouldn't be at your desk while a customer is there trying to get in their business which obviously i'm not doing um but yeah i mean i can be here i can be filming um i have every intent to respect the privacy of individuals if they're giving social security numbers and whatnot uh but you know no intention of waving my right to film the area so um but yeah if you said it was a law so i actually have uh not so much a law it's the rule and i'm gonna have to ask you to turn the video off please is that a law yes not not so much a law it's a rule oh that makes sense then so what that would actually mean is that it's a company policy and therefore none of you can film in here but i can no that's how company policies work so what you guys are are members of here what you're employed by as a corporation it's a company and that company has policies that aren't laws and so you're bound to the policies but i am only bound to the laws but we can restrict you to just this area right now no yes no you can't you can restrict me from any area that's not public can i ask you what you're filming for like i just said i just film all government buildings and government employees or what i mean what what is your purpose for the filming i guess is my question i just just to uh see what government employees are doing that's it well and uh document interactions working on private information cool yeah i'm not here to distract those so you all can do what you're doing and i'll just do my little tour and record what i have on my screen it could easily record what these people have let me call and make sure and i have customers in the resource room that have public private information on it so give me one second before it was uh downstairs recording in the tax office too and of course the general public questioned whoa what are you doing when i explain to them what i'm doing checking up on government most people this day and age can agree that's good we should check up on government so uh you know i'm i'm confident that i can gain any customers trust that i'm not getting their information that we are here for you yeah that's kind of always you must also follow policy well like i said the policy is for you to obey not me so if you were to get your know that i know that i have been given strict orders not to allow people to come in here unless we obtain that information from our boss saying it is okay okay so i'm following the rules okay by the actual top people so okay i understand then and then today you'll learn that those policies actually apply to you so if you were to get your phone out and start videotaping me back it would actually be against your policy now if any of your customers in here were to get out their phone and video me back they could do that but the policies are something that you're bound to [Music] it's right and so all the public servants would be bound to it but it's not a law so we're learning a lot today though right at the very least we're we're learning a lot right yeah i follow what my bosses tell me and what the state tells me okay have you ever considered do you follow your conscience why i'm just curious it has nothing to do with my job your conscience has nothing to do with your job okay so you would do anything that your bosses tell you to even if it violates your conscience okay that's good just go by the rules and regulations that are given to me and i follow my ethics and i took my ethics training just this last week i take my all the training that i need and i pass okay so i know what the ethics goals and laws are right right do you know what their ethics rules and laws are but i guess the question is i guess the question is i work for the state i'm a state employee i follow by the state rules and regulations not by yours right or your own even not by yours either when i'm employed and working here i am working here okay so what i feel doesn't it's not the point okay that's good to know so your own conscience and your own ethics don't come into play at all if somebody tells you shoot that man in the back and they're a state representative as long as they work for the state and they wrote in the rules that you're allowed i'm just you were in here asking questions that have nothing to do with my job and you are stating things that have no truth or barrier to it well it's a question i'm saying there's a question excuse me no that wasn't a question you just stated that if somebody told me to take a gun into them then i wouldn't have the morals or the the my own morals to do i would just do it okay that is not okay if i made that out of my mouth that came out of your mouth okay so now that makes me wonder and curious about you and who you really are and what are your ethics and your possibilities and why are you going to backpack on and you're in here feel me so what are your motives um so yes i guess i do have my own curiosity and morals i have watch out for the public and see who comes in here good that's my theory to you all right well if i made that accusation that was not my intent it was intended to be in question form as in if someone asked you to do this would you do it so if i made that accusation i sincerely apologize that wasn't the intent it was just going to the extreme level of okay at what point would you say no you know and answer any more questions okay that's fine i really didn't even come in here to bother or discuss anything with you all but since you stopped me and talked with me as a policy i have to stop you and tell you that until i hear from my superiors i cannot allow you to enter with a camera okay cool um so i would ask well you're a very sweet person i appreciate it you're a very sweet person i appreciate it and i hope that uh well i'm not gonna you know if it was me i guess i wouldn't have a problem if they didn't have a problem and there wasn't anything personal you know that you were filming but i'm not in charge i follow the rules i go to my people who are in charge of the office and if they tell me to do something i have to do that so i have to stop you here and then she's the center manager she's going to get the you know get somebody that has that authority to actually say hey do you want to i believe that at some points you can be escorted do you want to peek inside of my backpack would that give you peace of mind are you sure you're so nice i would never submit to a search by a police officer simply because it's my right not to but if it would make but if it would make you personally comfortable i would even comfortable okay all right cause you're saying oh you're in here with a backpack and i've got papers i've got books you made the first remark now if an officer came in here and asked if he could search my backpack i would say no just on the principle just on the principle of of no remember when you were asking me about my own thoughts and my own morals and you know what i my conscience right yeah yeah and uh and then you when you were saying oh does that mean that if somebody your boss said take that guy shoot him i'm stopping you there it's like well you know i have a lot of my own questions and stuff but i don't let it interfere with my work just like i said if i saw you come in with a backpack i'd probably be more aware of that which i was that's good i mean that's good to be aware of your surroundings it's not my business to search your backpack yeah it is not my concern to do that i just but my my business and my concern is to stop you where you're at and tell you i cannot let you go in there filming until i get that permission and i know what you're saying your rights are and that's fine i understand that but anybody until i know is that really a true fact this is just coming from you just me you came in here and told me that you have the right that i'm the one who don't have the right because the policy only applies to me well you you you yeah right i don't have that right i don't know i don't see that in in writing yet but let me clarify i will i will look it up okay and i will all right good and i will make that you know let me clarify though you had the right you did have the right you waived it when you signed up to work for these people so you sign you know the documents that you signed your employment agreement that's when you people are yeah i understand that but i'm just saying you had the right as an individual too but you waived the right so it's not that you don't have the right it's that you had it and waived it i understand but the customers are not wanting to be on your video and they don't want to be anything associated with it so i cannot have you it doesn't matter it's still a public space if you need to call the police then you can do that but it's still a public space they know the laws you can tell your customers you know i'm not going no it's not actually in a public space you're welcome to call the police and find out though so i have no intention of doing any harm to anybody but i do intend to film and record here and uh if you guys need to get clarification then i would recommend just asking somebody else to do that for you yeah there's no expectation of privacy in public so whether they agree with it or not doesn't matter their feelings don't trump it does that make sense but they're requesting that they not be filmed well then they need to stay in their home but they came here to use our services which are public services in a public place if they don't want to be filmed then they need to stay in their home with their blinds closed yeah now my intent is not to get them if they're respectful enough to me then they won't be in the video but i also put right yeah you are absolutely and i appreciate it make sure that we're i'm also making sure that their identities are being protected as well their identity's not protected they're on over there and they don't want to be on camera they're already on camera they're on over 70 cameras every single day we don't know what you're going to do with that video you know these systems aren't difficult to hack anybody can get access to any of these videos the whole point is i'm going to be here i'm going to video record i'm not going to do any harm to anybody and that's it so thank you and again if if you guys can find in here in any law book where it says that that i can't then i'll stop well i can go past that door it's a publicly accessible area it's publicly accessible so if you were to do something like physically try to restrain me from entering that area that that would be a crime on your part here you can you can peek too i'm gonna i'm gonna open it anyway so you all compete because i know you're all acting like i'm going to hurt somebody or something so papers folders there's down on the bottom there's a bottom there's there's a backup battery for this and that's there's a pen so i at least want you to feel comfortable that no one's gonna do any harm this for our project um this is i do this quite often and just check out government buildings and you know if they want to come out are they done in there if they don't want to be on camera okay well not because i have to but because i will i can respect that and turn the camera this way while they leave and then i can go finish my tour okay that area is open to the public right that's why public are in there what remembers over there that's why members of the public are in there right and you can see it from here yeah okay right cool can you see it in your video from here i don't know what's back that way i can't i mean okay yeah i mean if they if i'm like if if they're ready to leave and they're not leaving just because i have a camera on i'd be happy to turn it off for a second so they can exit i'm not trying to cause them problems okay all right cool if they're not feeling comfortable with the camera it's only ignorance that makes them feel that way though well yeah i know that's that seems like a mean word but come on we're all ignorant none of us know everything so therefore we're all ignorant well it's ignorance that makes them think that this will get their identity out in the world don't get me wrong i'm ignorant on plenty of things too so this just isn't one of them this just isn't one area where i am um you know their identity is not going to get out there because of this hi how are you doing good good huh you all close at five we only got six minutes left in here anyways huh how was your memorial day sir don't go in there sir no cell phone using to go in there [Music] nicole's outside him y'all have a good one we'll come back are you quitting no where are you going okay good we'll be back another day okay all right you you may be here it was it was my name is james by the way hi james um what was your name tanya tanya it was nice to meet you nice to meet you what was her name that's our center manager center manager molly yes sir great well it was nice to meet you we'll come back again soon are these computers available for public use yes sir oh so it's like a library it's a resource room absolutely oh okay how you doing good thanks have a good one we'll come back and visit y'all again another time you too thank you [Music] you