so you're declining you're uh you're refusing to give me records because you're refusing and the reason you're refusing is i'm not refusing well you're not giving them to me have i done anything illegal no but you're being there's a call for suspicious activity okay then go talk to whoever called i did it's dispatch it is dispatch it is dispatch then go talk to them i'm going to ask dispatch why they called on me [Music] how's it going guys doing all right what's going on i just uh going to talk to dispatch real quick no i was just curious why they why she called the police on me for being here oh yeah i'm sorry to hear that i mean it's whatever i just want to ask her why she felt the need to do it i mean i talked to her asking where animal control was and then she called the cops on me oh okay yeah all right all right hey have a good one guys [Music] hey hi um is there a reason that you all called the sheriff on me we got a call you got a call from who we can't release that information yeah let's go ahead and request that record i mean they told me that dispatch is the one that called them i was just wondering but if we get a call well he told me that it wasn't anyone that called it was dispatch yeah please do all right thank you yeah i'm sorry i didn't mean to be sure with you i don't think it was you that called anyways i think it was that other lady that's okay all right thank you did that guy accuse you of aggressively walking yes he did after accusing me of aggressively recording i was trying to figure out what part of it was aggressive and he was like i'm not talking i gotta go yeah that's a good idea clown hello hey how's it going is lori here hi lori i'm james how are you good um you got records for me yeah i was expecting you too oh okay i sent you an email yeah i've got an appointment in uh albuquerque at 1. uh so let me get jeremy for you because we will for deposit purposes we will need your full name and address okay um for deposit purposes yeah because when we're taking money we have to make a deposit so well that's that's up to i mean that honestly that's not my concern um as far as the state law says i don't have to give any of that information i will at this time have to um turn to our legal and he's not here today or tomorrow so i can okay so you're declining you're uh you're refusing to give me records because they're refusing and the reason you're refusing is i'm not refusing well you're not giving them to me no because i need to take the money from you the money's right here yeah so the money's right here cash said 25 per cd but she wants personal information including the first and last name which she already has and she wants a home address okay she wants a home address well you can request all you want it's not required as per state law so i mean i know you guys don't like obeying the law but that's why i'm here well you're trying to violate it right now and how is that you're not giving me records give me a second sir you you worked fine with your three-day thing you gave me an email but at that point you told me that everything would be ready by the 28th so our emails contain a first and last name a phone number and an email address so we actually have a name to go with the receipt we can't just receive money for no reason that's not my concern the way that state law works is i can get records without giving that information so look i mean we don't need to have the conversation if you guys are going to decline to give me the records if you're going to refuse to give me the records i'll walk out and i'll get with the attorney general or i'm sorry you're right you think it's funny you got you know you're breaking the law though i mean if that's what you're gonna do i'll just leave i'll just leave let me ask you a question sir what isn't that on your driver's license what driver's license or your id what id i didn't give you an id no i'm saying most people have an id it did why does it matter i don't have to give you guys this stuff to get the records are you going to give them or not it's as simple as that and then i'll leave it's as simple as that you give the records or you don't i take it higher if you don't it doesn't matter to me we're not trying to decline in your record okay then let's go ahead and let me know so i can move on i've got other things to do i'm not giving you anything other than what you've already been given which is a request for open records okay all right these guys have id fetishes the cops couldn't get it so now these guys are going to try you guys have the choice to do whatever you want to do at this point okay yeah i mean you guys are you guys are the ones with the guns not me so whatever you guys want to do okay whatever you guys want for them things like okay we paid this much that this person or this person gave us this much you you know it's just for real i get that i own a few businesses i get how accounting works if i want to take a step back what do you mean it's like um you get back by the sheriff's department and who you know [Music] right we're just asking for your last name to put it on the receipt if you want i'll give you a fake name but i don't want to give you a fake name sir okay do whatever you want okay because i i mean i'm not i'm honestly not trying to be difficult with you but this is not the way i do it i do records all across the country i do not give my information you guys will know who i am you guys are going to find out but it's a matter of principle to me that the state law says that i don't have to give it and and that's what we're going to go by um and i get the accounting side of things like i said i own multiple businesses i get that but and we do have your email that you sent it from so we'll probably put that with the receipt as well there you go so give us a name i mean you you can make up a name they're starting to back down a little bit now but this was not really about getting a name there's a first and last name in the emails there's an email address and there's a phone number this was about trying to get an id they're starting to back down a little bit now i don't know [Music] right if we can hand you a piece of paper and you can write down the name for the receipt you guys write down whatever you want on there i'll give you the money you give me the records you guys do the rest however you want i got it that is how it works i cannot make up a name for you you can make up whatever name you want for it you can't do that for cash customers huh no we still need a name for the cash that's up to you like i said i'm not gonna i'm not gonna try to force you guys to do anything i'm here for the records either give him or you don't then let him write down the name i'm not writing anything down i've done what i need to do to get the records on your behalf that doesn't matter you guys will be violating state law and uh what's your name my name yeah i'm jeremy oliver jeremy oliver what's your position here finance director okay and your name is noah the chief procurement officer okay and uh i'm amanda and i'm your assistant all right and your name sir james what's your position my position um owner operator um cameraman uh records department and accounting yeah all right let's see what our legal advice says okay from you yeah um like i said um we're trying to play by the rules or the money can be tracked properly sure that's our aspect we're not denying the records we're just trying to not get it to where we're getting other audit issues sure yeah it's also down by the ag's office so i like your guys county though yeah i i mean i really do i'm not bs and you you live around here no no no just kind of passing through yeah i i get calls and emails and stuff from people who tell me that they want me to check out their county everybody's so sure across the entire united states that their county or their city is the worst one really everybody everybody definitely don't think that i think they're definitely worse right that's what i tell people they're like oh man our county is the worst they won't do this they won't do that they won't obey this law they won't obey that law and um you know i think new mexico overall has been really pretty dang good at obeying the law arizona is horrible really yeah tucson is one of the worst you got places like leon valley and texas that are horrible so you know people always tell me their city or counties the worst i'm like i'll come show you that they're not yeah i always live on the side that there's always worse out there you know and there is i've been around quite a bit yeah you got some frisky sheriff's deputies but we'll whip them into shape real quick it's usually a little bit suspicious when people are filming government buildings is suspicious a misdemeanor or a felony why you gotta be smart with me dude i'm asking if it's a misdemeanor or a felony dude i asked what your name is deputy wallace can you answer my partner deputy wallace thank you you guys are body cams on clowns yeah yeah we do good all right sir i have your email address okay and it appears to have a last name all right cool so as you can see they always had all of the information that they needed to release the records they were just playing a stupid game and it was really all about trying to get that id card so if you have 25 yes sure do you have correct change uh do i need exact change if not i'll let you keep it um it would make it a lot easier and i have to break it and we don't do cash normally in finance okay i don't um i mean i'm good for it if um uh if you want to take a trip to the treasures office they could probably where's that thing is i've got an appointment at once you want me honestly man i'll come back yeah i'm not in a huge hurry just while i'm here i'd rather get it done but yeah all right i need exact change and it's 25 just one disk okay all right i've been in this building for almost an hour i really do have another appointment to get to and i'm already late for it this already took way too long i wasn't expecting it to take this long and i've gotta move on when i do come back these individuals turn incredibly nasty all right how long have you been the records person not very long okay probably what since july okay did you do were you records custodian anywhere else before or okay records are a pain they're interesting you know what you know what i think should be done all public records should already be available we shouldn't have to ask for them and you pull me out of the job well no because you would you would be the one who consistently puts them on a server that's so they're available for us to look up all the time that's some stuff that they're trying to get done in texas but i mean all this that's here at times right and all this back and forth i mean if it's public it's public you know what i mean it shouldn't be such a back and forth right right and so your job wouldn't disappear it would just be that all these records are you're constantly redacting and uploading redacting and uploading anyways all right i'll see you i'll probably come by tomorrow all right all right thanks guys [Music] i'm