hey what's up guys it's james freeman out here at tucson city courts so we got a whole crew of caballers out here today caballers [Music] uh there's no there's not not gonna be enough oh boy what do we got there you gotta stand for your camera yeah yeah it's a camera gimbal and is the same thing we need to yeah we gotta hold that you guys [Music] it's a weapon you're kidding me we're your city employees we've already got the ruling if you want to see it he's actually got it on him what's your name what is it larry larry what's your are you what's your identifying number i don't know okay larry is telling me i have to stop recording very good i don't know what the hell he's talking about he likes to pull people by the back of the hair and slam under the ground you're gonna have to pull me by my hair and drag me to the ground larry so anyway it was my operation here no you're interfering with my operation here your interface what's your name your items here for me you can speak to my williams i'd be happy to talk to you over here so we're not in the way but yeah we definitely need to talk already put your items in here for me sir um we can talk out of the way but we definitely need to talk already i didn't expect this today even after the ruling came through um so he's got a ruling sorry let me try to get all this stuff back in my um what court was it uh superior you're not gonna freak out about that aren't you i should have left that outside i think this sign is wrong okay so you gotta argue with the sign okay so he got a there's a court ruling now can i can i actually have it it says that we can record in here and the only thing that says that we can't record is individuals not including city employees that don't consent to it i actually came um hoping to meet with christopher hale possibly i've got his number but i didn't actually call ahead i saw him yesterday and talk to him um does anybody have official business here today i do yep and you guys i do i do here for court this is official it's huh this is official this is official are we really i'm kind of i'm kind of worried that we're still stuck on this just do we have official business i mean filming okay well filming in the car okay okay cool cool okay all right because just i mean just simply recording public policy right that is official that's yeah right and that's a lot of what the court ruling is that's that's kind of what we're trying to argue and fight here is that this is official business simply to come in and record i'm not and that's public place i'm not right the problem's going to be if you record people and they don't want you to never know not including city employees though not including city employees so if i just need to make sure that we've all got these ground rules established so that violence isn't used against us does that make sense i mean he seems to think that if i go across something i know there's something some people tell me to leave don't do you know you don't like the way that some people deal with things i get that i get it um but we need to make sure violence isn't going to be we're allowed to be in the recording because that's literally what the ruling says you're recording people in there and they don't concentrate right right not including not including city employees is there any change to that because that's not what i understand okay um it falls under the same thing as recording police it even specifically says there's no circumstance anyone read that ruling yet okay do you want to see even if we refuse in the city court i'm not arguing so okay okay all right what do you want to do from here so you're saying police can refuse to be recorded i was just told working a job for the building that's all you really i have not read it yet so i'm not going to argue this is special this is off duty i'm working for the city at this location okay oh you're off duty i'm working off duty i'm not well i'm a police officer working for the city at this building location right now i'm confused i really am i got it are you in is in his official capacity right now but i'm sorry i'm a dumb guy sir they're paying me to be at this building at this time working building security okay just for this kind of security that's exactly right working security yeah it's an off-duty job so what that means is when we assume we sue the city court off duty he'll still hang out i've talked to christopher before and said look i want to have the conversation so that we can prevent lawsuits we need to actually get this figured out so that they can do the right thing without lawsuits um going on does that make sense i mean i i understand that you don't lose when the city gets sued i'm mr williams suffers no loss when the city gets sued the taxpayers do and so i get it there's no liability for you guys i'm not going to say that totally but and to me that is a problem because if there was liability for there's liability for me i'm in danger right now right if somebody comes out and with a gun and a badge and decides they don't like what i'm doing i'm in personal danger but there's no actual liability for you personally you can do whatever you want there's nobody and that's i think where the problem is is that the individuals that who are in their official capacity here who are trying to restrict rights have no liability and so we're all i can do is beg my masters to please please please have a decent conversation with me about um not restricting rights so that people like mark don't have to go and i'm gonna restrict your rights i'm here to obey the people i'm working for so i'm here to restrict your rights i'm here to obey the people i'm working for i'm here to obey the people i'm working for they're telling me there's a judgment that tells me otherwise and i'll read that and make a perfect decision but law enforcement officer uh thank you arresting people for policy no um you're a policy officer yeah you are not gonna argue with you do you think it's what would you like to do do you think it's their responsibility to tell you what our rights are do you think it's your responsibility to understand yourself yes that's why we're not doing i'm not telling you to stop recording okay i'm not reading this okay i just came to work today and was told about this okay but do our rights come from that or do they come from somewhere else first member so they don't come from the judge here's the deal can i get a copy of that i get it it's his yes you can have a copy of it oh no no this is actually so that was pretty sly the papers that he just intentionally handed to me acting like it was a mistake are meant for vernon he's trying to serve him in order against harassment from christopher hale williams is like i don't give a [ __ ] i just get paid i'm sorry i don't give a crap i just get paid i'm just saying you handed it to me so i assumed it was yours no it was a security guy too i'll i'll get i'll talk with them then we'll figure out where we need to go from here but we need to bring in our recording equipment we i am i am not a weapon that you're not gonna be allowed who's this guy they're even talking about cats you said pelts pills oh that's the name under it what about him what does it say about him i'm just asking you vernon felt i'm not going to discuss these matters with you apparently they've been trying to serve vernon peltz this injunction against workplace harassment for christopher hale for a few months now and they can't ever find him or get a hold of him so now brandon williams is randomly handing these papers to everybody that comes in contact with him hoping that he uh eventually hands it to a vernon pelts oh i think i may know yeah i think i may have an idea yeah you're against harassment four i'm gonna go over here you have id on you sir uh no he's not that i'm gonna present to um [Music] the tucson police department this says estimated date of birth your day person no it lists you as a white male brown eyes white eyes are not brown they're hazel hazel [Laughter] alleges a single actor series of acts of harassment has been filed against you by an employer owner of the business operation benefit of employee when did i harass anybody here have you seen me harass anybody i've never seen it how about did you file a fake bar complaint against mr hale no i did not so vernon is a retired attorney he was no longer practicing but for some reason his bar card was still active and so christopher hale in retaliation for all of this filming in the courthouse filed a bar complaint against vernon since he's no longer practicing law he wasn't worried about losing his bar license he didn't want it anyways but he did fight the bar complaint just to fight the bar complaint from christopher hale and won because that would be harassment i felt like i was fresh almost as bad as i'd be in her rats right now fake guard what happens what happens if you just do an about face and leave right now well he would consider me served and throw the papers down here and i will well is that what you would do william he said yes exactly you are he said he is served he's dealing with would i'm sure he'll invite you to come into the huddle yeah yeah uh you're protecting someone else you gotta wait again he is a harasser the criminal harasser oh you can have one how dare how dare you try to hold your public servants accountable that's harassing a legend harass a legend i think trying to hold public servants accountable is definitely falls under harassment that should be that shouldn't be allowed not not in this country i think that i'm pretty sure my harassment has something to do with the video they don't even know that i have ever taken a video of these guys that are serving me [Music] so this would be what we call heavy-handed gestapo tactics is this the ussa usa yes ussa ussa that you're a security guard too i never said that you said you're a cop working off duty i didn't say that you have security guards that's what it means he's watching your stream you think christopher hale's ever put anything in his mouth oh yeah words or otherwise wieners winners from males words i think he put words in his mouth already i'm just saying i think words have already been put in his mouth my word itches i want to put something in his mouth so just what am i enjoying from doing [Music] it's the only one in existence right now you have the course uh some youtube people to do can you tell me what harassment is obviously you know what i'm not supposed to do you know i'm not gonna see well he's that's a pretty good question you don't think basically what can i not do can you tell me what i what harassment means what what it is i'm not supposed to do you you serious doesn't happen what is happening i'm just reading this that does not indicate exactly what it can't do this is not checked it says no contact so it's vague so we don't have to follow that it's it's it's what is on what is i'm free and prevented from doing can you probably not well what is this horizontal he's going to act like he doesn't know what he's talking about no he was here that day whenever they're giving you this williams that's what i meant about like following orders as compared to understanding for yourself what's checked yeah so what did i serve him with in order i get that it doesn't stipulate what he can and can't do because i'm here to obey those people i'm working for okay you have served me an incomplete order against harassment sir and i want you to look at this go with this miami okay you just hand me this piece of paper you can't tell me what i'm supposed to do or not supposed to do and i come over here and this is what i'm being prevented from doing okay and says that i'm supposed to be prohibited from doing and this says other it says see attached minute entry and i don't believe i have anything attached uh-oh so this what does this tell me let's try this again and you see if you can explain to me what i'm not supposed to do here you haven't served me with a complete order apparently i don't have the entry that tells me what i'm not supposed to do is that correct or not correct okay so then what are you serving me here just serve you the paperwork saying there's an ordinance wrapped up a piece of junk paper tell me anything oh i'm littering me something you can't tell me what i've been supposed to do and the paper that is supposed to tell me what i'm not supposed to do is not attached okay so what good is that what help me out how do i not break this order you gave me how do i what do i not do can you help me apparently you can still do what you're doing how about that oh thank you guys until the point where we tackle you thank god i can still do it that's what i mean about just following orders though instead of thinking because it had you thought and actually figured it out you'd realize you were doing something wrong because i'm here to obey the people i'm working for that's the hardest part he no no thought whatsoever about what he was doing just obeying orders i don't want to violate this injunction what am i not supposed to do don't film or you can't feel i don't know no clue what you're doing at the at the point where you feel the taser prongs go into you you know you did what you're not supposed to do until then you're fine look at that you're getting permission from everybody at the courthouse i bet that somebody could come out here and threaten and intimidate them to revoke that permission hey here's the deal you either revoke your permission or we're automatically going to find you guilty on whatever you're here for did you guys have that opinion he didn't want to read it yeah this prohibition includes photographing streaming live trainings broadcasting transmitting of any still or video footage and any form thereof this restriction is important with rule 122.1 in addition when entering tucson city court the defendant is required to advise city court that he will be recording he will that he will be recording photographing live streaming or broadcasting any image works i'm not going to do that so you must know that right now pretty sure are you going to hear that this is case number 600 and this is not nice i don't think that's the right document 19 10 19. oh this is it so to be clear it's saying that he can't record without permission at all okay for photography any individual inside any individual in psychosis before including himself oh i can't record these guys well i guess without consent yes so it's so it's no different than any it's no different than what the law already was it's not up to you you know there's some simple things that we could do to avoid it getting ugly in court you know what i mean and costing that but again it only it only costs the taxpayers money it doesn't cost the individuals who are actually doing the harm anything as a matter of fact they make money you're making money right now right you got paid to serve him right yeah he's a policy right now so not only do you not lose anything you gain mark the only the only that's what is the situation the only way to deal with him is going to be through a lawsuit he doesn't get he doesn't get it already he's already on our line is he yeah good so you get what i'm saying guys the tucson activist crew is constantly doing more work than i can even begin to keep up with so please head over and subscribe to their channels and support them the two tucson activists that were in this video that have youtube channels are tucson police suck and alcharo negro justice i will put links to both of their channels in the description thanks for watching guys