well more than welcome to stand inside in film - uh-huh don't even okay bye should I go live that's not the way it works go ahead and dude you are how are you a lieutenant how are you possibly a lieutenant and you are so ignorant of the law you're so ignorant of the procedures of the department you can leave what is that you can leave is that I can on my servants you're insulting insulting you get his get the chief please get the chief [Music] hey guys it's James Freeman out here in Moore Oklahoma wouldn't use now Patrick and news now Selena more Public Safety Center see you later this thing is yeah they carved a policeman out of a tree oh yeah that's I'm good thank you you can stay yeah thank you didn't make you get up [Music] or your reflection is there's so much glare in the glass I can't really see through it yeah I saw you that was it I saw you in the camera just hard to see through the glass what Oh me I'm just filming yo just whatever I you okay you all right what's up I think she are you okay okay you need me to call EMS you don't need EMS okay you just seem like you were something what's going on with you oh well more than welcome to stand inside and film - uh-huh don't even okay bye I'm not interrupting your business about I'm not interrupting a business all there's not a single customer what's what's the problem guys [Music] be more than happy to let you stand outside and film whatever you want but you can't disrupt the business and and how are we disrupting the business inside of the police [Music] their job because you're in their face in their face okay well you've made a lot of allegations here and every single one go ahead I gave you your chance to talk not visit oh so you're telling me to community so you're going to it's perfectly legal and lawful for me to it name who are you you don't even look like for you okay is he your supervisor okay okay yeah at this point you're creating a disturbance you're you're threatening you're intimidating okay and we have every right to be in here and film in here and work on our story listen you keep interrupting you need to stop I do have official business it's only it's filming you I didn't tell you anything you're the one making all the claims go get your supervisor we're done with you get your supervisor is the chief here Hey is he your supervisor as well is he yours is there another supervisor here who can de-escalate this calm him down and get him out of here escalating understanding her filming trying to make a confrontation there was no confrontation until you guys came out here and there hasn't been one with you there hasn't been one with him there's only been one with him so I'm at this point I'm gonna request that he get his supervisor whether it's the chief or or whoever what's what's your name sir sergeant Ellis okay thank you do you have a badge number all right thank you sir that's not Hawaiian open records request look just take the form can't take the form please Wow should I go live that's not the way it works go ahead and dude you are so how are you a lieutenant how are you possibly a lieutenant and you are so ignorant of the law you're so ignorant of the procedures of the department you can leave what is that you can leave is that I cannot sir insulting you get his get the chief please get the chief now okay I need I need the chief out here okay I need the assistant okay all right okay I'd appreciate as far as anything above that probably okay you know all I can do is hope that the other lieutenant will be a little more level-headed and a little more educated that's that's all and you know maybe he's not maybe it's an it maybe it's a problem with the entire department I'm assuming since I met the sergeant who was perfectly level-headed and not what was it the other office Ian officer I'm assuming that it's just one bad lieutenant who's miss educated or uneducated and so I'd like to speak to another lieutenant and okay yeah and then and then we need to clear up this trespassing you can't trespass me from public property but at this point he's threatening me I haven't broken any laws filming him is constitutionally protected at this point I'm not if he is at risk of a lawsuit that's not the direction I want to go but I can't as well okay your life okay thank you [Music] but to threaten me to leave while doing nothing other than exercising a constitutional right to come out and try to escalate and cause a problem because I'm exercising a constitutionally protected activity that's that's wrong and not only is it wrong it's illegal it's unlawful and it can result in a lawsuit for the department that nobody needs that at this time I don't want to give it if we can start making some progress on getting him under control and getting me back into the building to do what I was doing then I'll give you my name we came here to do an open records request and we film all of our interactions with governments specifically for the reasons of what happened in there that woman was trying to tell him that he has to have an ID to do an open records request that's false but there their policy can't trump state law and what what that is is it's an intimidation tactic to try to get his personal information if he wants to get information about his department and and so as far as more Police Department's policies it doesn't matter because it violates state law Oklahoma state law says that you don't need to identify yourself to get a public records request it's right right or even to submit it and he doesn't even have to give it because he's got to give some way for them to contact him with the results so such as an he can give a mailing address he can give an email he can give a phone number but he doesn't have to give all of it he just needs to all you have to do is make the request and give some way for them to contact him do to fulfill the request that's it yeah I understand no usually when we film interactions they go well usually when we go to do an open records request or try to get information and they know we have a camera that's usually in my experience when nobody acts out because they know so that's why it's concerning to other people because they're like we had to pay for your video and it takes a lot of time a lot of I can't tell you how many open records requests I've done where it takes three to six months sometimes a year if it's a pending investigation and with my video I've got it all the time and I get it immediately a lot of times I never get the open records request I'm asking for I get body cam footage where they cut out the audio all kinds of altered stuff but back to the you know no I do need you to allow me back into the building he was threatening me he told me to leave the building he was trying to give me another lieutenant oh yeah and for filming in public okay do you understand that that your guys are you just want to get sued that's all so you just feel like you need to take something to court okay so is that okay so you kicked me out of the building for filming inside of the building I just need you to confirm why I've been told to leave the builds another supervisor asked you those different what's the purpose for it okay go ahead and let me go ask what's your name what's your new tenancy stay put as in like right in this spot or if I move like this is that against just I can't go inside of that door is that I just need to be clear on what I can or can't do without being threatened with violence well you guys under you don't understand what would happen what would happen if I walked into that door somebody would physically put their hands on me but somebody would physically put their hands on name-calling about you would that's now people don't lie that's a descriptive word of what he is because he is ignorant of the law right so I'm not saying I don't know what but if it's factual I get okay chief he approached me I asked him to leave my reason to be here is to film you guys you understand that I don't even have to have any other business here other than to film you to legally and lawfully be allowed to be here right right that but that particular situation situation with right he was mad at me because I was filming and so he kicked me out for filming but that's the only business I have to have here he was getting loud so you're saying your lieutenant was getting loud he was see that's that's what yeah that's the problem he comes in and when there is no problem he creates he creates a disturbance and then says you're creating a disturbance well I need to go back into the building and finish my story I am I am a member of the press I am here to film a story I legally and lawfully have a right to do so are you telling me that they're threatening violence against me if I go back into the building no listen no I'm not doing it I am simply at this point I am simply here to film and that is my official business is to record him him and those two officers over there inside of that building as a member of the press as I'm allowed to do via the the Constitution the First Amendment I don't need to have any other business here other than to film you that's it that is my business and that's all the business I have to have new tenant see he's good if these guys been with the Department for a while did you do your open records request without an ID it doesn't matter though it's the it's the the fact that they bully you into doing this stuff yeah they're bullying you holy smokes more PD is going to holy crap do you have any idea the backlash that's about to come all we can fix this right here and now and it's over I don't think this depart are you live right now there's somebody putting out the phone number two Moore Police Department to help me get back inside of here how many people are on there right now 45 maybe I should go live on my big channel get about hey guys how's it going I hope I've got some mods in here hopefully we can start getting the numbers up right here pretty quick more Police Department is trying to trespass me from the police department for filming inside of the police department if I've got some mods in here that can thank you Rika the whole football volunteers I got some mods you already did thank you Moore Oklahoma Police Department it's going to tenant Dudley threatened me with violence to leave the building though the word he was trespassed morning right well no no no he gave me a trespass warning which means if you don't leave this building because you're engaging in a constitutionally protected Act if you don't leave this building I will use violence against you to force you to the back of the building where we have holding cells it was lieutenant Dudley and then lieutenant see right that came out and confirmed that he doesn't know what lieutenant Dudley did or why and he doesn't care if lieutenant Dudley said you're kicked out of the building for constitutionally protected activities then you're kicked out of the building these two officers have been have been wonderful this is sergeant Ellis he's been very respectful he's communicated with me where the others haven't clarified things where the others haven't the others just Dudley and and see it's nothing but threats and intimidation this officer of acara Dunbar has also been very professional collected the entire time while their supervisors have continually escalated the situation and thrown out threats of violence for oh five seven nine three five one seventy one you want to talk to lieutenant Dudley about trespassing people from public property that we own for exercising constitutionally protected rights in the building let me ask you guys though if he told you to arrest me for being inside of there would you do it or would you make him do it I'm glad we didn't - but have you ever have you ever heard of a Turner vs. driver if you go look it up on YouTube it's a it's a court ruling that says that we can we can be in public places I don't know if it actually applies here yeah no no if the circuit I can't remember what circuit it was in so I don't know if it applies in Oklahoma I think it may it was in Texas but but either way what happened was the lieutenant it was this very similar situation and the lieutenant kept trying to tell the guy to do something that he didn't lawfully have to do and then he was giving orders to the guys below him because he knew what he was doing was wrong and so he wouldn't put hands on on Phillip Turner himself he directed the people under him to do it for him to do his dirty work for him yeah the the lieutenant ended up getting sued in his personal capacity as well as the department getting sued won the case one case law but there were six guys there that obeyed the unlawful orders that their superior and and put hands on and arrested this innocent man because the lieutenant told them to okay I need to get back into the building so when I walk through that door is somebody going to physically assault me either lieutenant's gonna come and physically assault me and try to put silver bracelets on me okay are either one of you going to try to assault me and put silver bracelets on me when I walk through that door [Music] sorry hold on one second we're not gonna bail here anything at this point I've got to get an answer to the question and before it was kind of hypothetical when I walked through that door are you gonna follow your sergeants orders to assault me and put silver bracelets on me all right hold on I have a right to be in there and and I I'm not only by the government that I hired to serve me that's that's about it I mean I can walk through there I can do my video see I never even spoke to anybody when I was in there until they came and approached me well when they said hi to me I said hello they asked what I'm doing I said I'm just filming yeah I wasn't I didn't go mute who they might have been talking about him but I the first one I went to was the police she said she said can I help you and I said oh no I'm fine thank you she was about to get up and I said no no don't get up you're fine I'm all right I don't need anything and then immediately she jumped on the phone and call people you guys came out said what are you doing I said filming and then boom it went up escalate it from there they said whoa whoa you can't film cameras are dangerous post 9-11 right you know I would have been out of there within three minutes it's it's the matter of we're not going to be bullied into not exercising our rights if that it's as simple as that I mean why can't it just be respected that's it all right here he comes here he comes I think I didn't get your name I I didn't give it all right okay it's fine I'm just gonna let you know that's it man that did settle hey thank you we yeah that's that's all we got to do you can call me James I appreciate you I appreciate you doing what needed to be done and handling it Hey thank you very much sergeant right Ellis yeah all right you say what is it James it is James I'll make sure and I mean complaints are easy to put in can we put in compliments on officers I mean we you guys have official complaint you want a shot I mean I would appreciate it yeah I mean there's always an official complaint form I love an official all right I may just I may just send it in an email and and there's 400 people watching to that I would also encourage - thank you sir they threatened me with violence to get out of the building he was going through paperwork John so you can't give us all something with him in the courts yeah they were looking through the laws to find out you know good for them because initially I had asked them to do that before they threatened me with violence to get out of the building you know just check on it make sure you're doing the right thing but of course they don't do it until four hundred people are on a livestream blowing up their phones until then until yeah until then it's just look we have guns we said no so get out ur will shoot you really put silver bracelets on you oh we're good thank you we'll be out of here in just a minute - thank you hey guys thanks for jumping on the livestream thank you for your support I don't believe for one second that we would have got that I would have gotten back into that building without you guys i 100% believe thank you yeah yeah you know people are people say oh what can I do to help what can I do to help and that that did it right there you know well you people are like oh well you know it's it's difficult for me I got health problems I can't get out feeling like you do what you guys did right there made all the difference in the world and that's what made this particular audit a success every single one of you thank you guys love you guys will be out quite a bit today so