Just me and Marlo here. >> Hello. >> Okay. >> She's um Okay. So, she loaded multiple gift cards. >> Okay. >> No cash. She did have $10 cash multiple times. She did even today. >> Okay. >> Um she loaded a gift card for $250 cash. I mean, for $10 cash, no cash went to the register. um she also admitted to theft that talk to me on video but in previous onations. >> Um today and and then she used one of the gift cards. >> Okay. >> Um obviously the one today she didn't use I have she had in her possession. She brought it upstairs. She got it out of her purse and handed it to me. >> Okay. >> That card has a value of 250 on it. >> 250. >> Okay. So, when did you guys notice how she was doing? >> So, yesterday she loaded a gift card. >> Actually, no. Uh, on the [music] 27th, which is going to be Wednesday, she loaded two, >> both for $150 each. She utilized one on the transaction for herself >> and each of them were 250. >> Uh two were were 150. Today was for 250 >> for the 20 on the 27th. He said >> each one was 150. >> 150. >> Mhm. >> And she used one of them. >> Correct. >> Okay. to let you know. >> It didn't go through. >> Hello. Hi. >> Oh, hi. >> How are you doing? >> Good. How are you? >> Good. Do you have your driver's license on you, ma'am? >> [snorts] >> Bipolar threatening. He burned down a building. Also threatened his father. What we got so far? >> Um, so so far she they started on the 27th. So she laid it loaded two gift cards with 150 and she used one of them and she kept the other one. And today she loaded a gift card for 250 and she didn't get a chance to use them and they want to press charges. >> They want to press charges. >> Yes. >> Okay. She gave me handcuffs. What? Ma'am, can you stand up for me, please? Oh my god. Can you stand up? I'm going to jail. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Stand up. >> Oh my god. Can I call my cousin? Just one second, please. >> Oh my god. >> Kay, I need you. I'm going to jail right now. >> Well, Not not necessarily. >> Not necessarily. >> Sit down for a second. >> Right now, you're being detained. >> Can you check my record? There's nothing on my record. Oh my goodness. >> We just have to do our investigation, man. >> Yeah, this one's prosecuting. You've been committed. You've committed a crime. So, it might be just you might be released on the notice to appear, which you'll have to appear in front of a court for a judge on a predetermined date and time. >> I know, but I don't remember. Okay. So, I'm going to read you your Miranda rightites and then I'm going to ask you a few questions. Okay. >> You say detained or 10:15? >> Detained. >> She's 10:15. >> Cuz she's they're pressing charges and we have evidence of a crime, right? Or you still need to do your investigation? >> I'm going to do my investigation. >> All right. Good deal. >> So, this is for an investigation. >> Yeah. may be detained right now, but you know, if there's anything that comes up that negates that, then then you'll be released. But if there is anything more, you'll be placed under arrest for retail theft or, you know, theft basically from the store. >> Okay. >> And then >> and then I go to court. I get paperwork. >> Yeah. You'll probably get released with a notice to appear, which means you have to go to court within like like 30 days or so, and you have to show up and then they'll either issue a fine or pay you some fees or you who knows, you don't show up, they get you a warrant for your arrest. >> All right. So, I'm going to read you your Miranda rights. Okay. Just let me know for each of them, do you understand what's going on? Okay. I am warning you that before you make any statements that you have the following constitutional rights. One, you have the right to remain silent and I answer any questions. Do you know that rule? >> Okay. Two, any statement you make must be freely involuntary given. Do you know what that means? >> Yes. Okay. And you have the right to um have a present or representation of the lawyer of your choice before you make any statements during any questioning. Do you know what that mean? >> Okay. Four, if you cannot afford a lawyer or you are entitled to present or representation of your court appointed lawyer before you make any statements during any questioning. Okay. >> Okay. Five. If at any time during the investigation do you not wish to answer any questions, you are to remain silent. Do you know what I mean? Okay. Six. I can make no threats or promises for you to make any statement. This must be on your own free will. Do you understand that? Okay. Any statement can be used and will can and will be used against the order. Do you understand that? Okay. So, are you able to explain to me why we're here today in my office? >> Yes. Because I um I loaded some I loaded two gift cards. Um yeah. >> And what were you going to do with the gift cards? >> Um probably buy by yourself here. >> And did anybody force you to do this or you did it on your own? >> So, like my um supervisor said that we're probably going to um give you a court date. You're going to get NTA. Um just >> Sergeant, are you able to stay with me? I look at the NTA forms. >> You bring them with you? I'm going to go downstairs, get the um NCA. >> Okay. All right. >> Cool. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, what are you thinking, girl? [laughter] >> Honestly, it was just a mistake. It was last minute stuff. Holidays, >> Christmas coming up, you're like trying to shave a few points off the cost of other things. Well, these are the only two occurrences there anymore that they're going to find cuz they're going to start reviewing back all the cameras and everything. >> Just this. >> Oh my god. >> How long you been working here? >> Since September. But I just started working for Matt because of stuff. The makeup thing that I >> This is the only other time you done it. This is it. No other time. >> No other time. Just a couple times. My record is clean. >> Have you ever been arrested before? >> No. [clears throat] >> No. >> Which is why I [ __ ] my pants. >> That's what happened. They call you. They bring you back here and ask you to talk to you or what they say. >> He talked to me. He made everything seem cool. Well, I mean, I would have told the truth regardless, but I didn't know any of this was happening. This took me for a surprise, which is why I kind of panicked a bit. >> At the end of the day, you know, the thing is like employee theft or people stealing, you know, their business at the end of the day, they lose money and >> people get away with so much stuff, you know, people taking money, taking taking clothes and running out the store. You know, they get tired of it after a while. And it's like you might be a nice person with nice intentions, but at the end of the day it's like they're like you took and they're going to prosecute. >> So kind of >> So what would this person be like in court? >> Well, paying something back. >> You could you could they could they could instill some kind of restitution against you? Um like where they're paying back the cost of what you what the store lost plus court fees and all that stuff. So it could cost you more than what you actually end up taking. >> Okay. or they if it's up to them up decide it's up to what the victim wants to do what they're what they want in return but you know but like say example you don't show up to court then now they're going to issue a warrant for your arrest now you're really going to spend time in jail >> like legit >> so something minor it's your first offense you never been arrested for probably just do something minor but you know he's got they want you to learn a lesson they don't want you do >> they don't want you to do it again you know what I'm saying >> I've learned I like this scary enough for me. >> But you're going to learn a little bit more. Unfortunately, it's not like it's not that it's not that he's a good >> taking a um uh uh what's the pictures called? >> So, go ahead. >> All right. We have 10 detained in the office now. So, just got to confirm it, I guess. Yeah. >> And you've never been arrested for anything? >> Never. >> Never had to go to court for anything or never got a speeding ticket. You didn't pay. >> Oh, speeding ticket. Yeah. >> Stuff you didn't pay. >> Yeah, but I got situated. >> You did? >> Yeah. >> What was that? >> Um my mom, we end up going to court. I had a lot of unpaid um tickets like um what do you call it? Like maybe like for a light or something like that and she paid it for me. >> How long ago was that? a while ago. >> You said she took a lighter >> year, too. Took >> She took a lighter. >> No, no, she um paid it for me. >> Oh, what was that for? >> Um for tickets for like um the light like running >> for running red light tickets. >> Um >> yeah, so you said you got that all resolved. >> The white pasta. Okay. have anything on our plane or cheddar. So after all this and then I do just get a court date and paperwork. Do I have to ride with you guys or >> I go home by myself? >> Well, the reason I'm asking any about these other tickets is there might be another issue. >> Any other kind when you have something on your file or something? >> I'm just saying like I'm asking about the tickets whether you paid them, show up to court, whatever for those because if you don't they issue a warrant for your arrest. >> No, they're good. I don't have no warrant. I know, but I'm hearing some information on my radio that >> there's a possibility you might have a warrant. >> A warrant? >> How? >> I don't know yet. That's what I'm finding out now. So, when I hear back from the other officer comes back, I'll find out what those So, that's why I ask you if those tickets were sorted because if they weren't, then there might be there might be an issue. >> But if it's sorted out, then we'll be back to the original plan. What was the total loss? It's a couple hundred. >> It is >> like [snorts] >> pardon. >> Okay. Um I am good for now, but please still do not say anything. Now if I end up going to jail, then that's the time to call somebody. But for now, please don't say anything. 550 >> 550. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Still >> below the threshold. So, >> all right. Yes. >> Okay. How much do you weigh? [snorts] >> Um maybe like 150. Is this your current address now? >> No. What did you find? You want to have zero. like Yeah, >> I'm going to >> Can I get the telephone number for you? >> Let me ask who's the LP. >> What? >> I don't. So, did she put the she was already putting the money on credit cards or the gift cards and then she I guess she used one of them, correct? >> Correct. Correct. >> Okay. So, >> maybe >> and then one she loaded today >> that she had in her possession she gave back to. >> Okay. So, the second card I guess she didn't use the second card, right? car still loaded with correct. So you guys are out physically about how much >> cash total wise like monetary loss you guys >> about I think it was almost a thousand. >> So out of the total gift cards one today was 250 Um, >> so including everything is is about 550 >> 550. >> Yeah. >> So the one card you got back that the cash you never spent yet that correct? >> So >> there's one that's still outstanding that she has. >> Okay. >> That's for 15. >> You guys have no way of getting that money off that card that she's that hasn't not been used yet. >> There's ways. >> There is ways. Okay. So you have okay but the total but she used one of the cards so that that loss is really two like 250 or >> two 150 >> 150 >> okay it's going to be scheme to defraud as a charge and then the other ones pay though >> all right >> it's not it's not felony level but >> but you can do the scheme to defraud because of the well several credit card attempts and she use a system to manipulate all Yes, sir. >> Thank you for your No problem. >> So, with that one, >> J, >> who has the key for the uh lock registers? >> Is that enough? >> Yeah. Yeah, I was just about to say I don't think >> the same thing. I got it later. >> Yeah. Same thing happened to him. But he had to go to his car and I guess use a network card and he got he got through. >> Can I get a copy? >> Sure. >> So this is the copy of the one she ordered today. That's the 27. I'm sorry. >> Am I able to keep these or do you >> Yeah, you're fine. And then this is the one the other one as well that she used. >> Okay. >> This is the transaction that she used it on. I'm going to st it so that way it's not >> Yes, please. >> Are you guys still looking at back on any other timelines for for on other events or these the only two that you guys just started looking and this what you found so far? >> Yeah, it it came on reporting and that's when we started. >> Right. Okay. Um, so this is the one that she used a nice transaction. She used it on the same day 27 she loaded today. >> Yeah. Just make sure you get the way that how she loaded on how they the wire how she loaded onto the register however that's done too cuz that's important for the uh scheme of the fraud >> statute and this is the evidence that shows up register almost exactly >> we close the register maybe about half an hour after >> I'm just going to have you right >> [snorts] [snorts] >> community request 12 case number 16728 60,728 Turn it off. after this. What shows up on my record on a background check? >> Um, you'll likely have arrest records going to show scheme of the fraud and petty theft. Thank you very much. >> There's two things that happen. One's the the act of taking them >> a card, a gift card, and over systematically using it a couple times to defraud a place of the of money, right? And then the other actions when you use the card and took the and then use that money that was not yours >> to buy. So there's two things. So you got Okay. >> I'm going to take you down to the station. >> Oh, you still want to go? Yes, ma'am. >> Can you call my >> um you can have a phone call um when you get >> Yeah. When we get there, we'll >> So, you can just tell me really quick what's going on. >> I already just explained it to you. >> No, I know, but you just said that I would probably be able to go home if So, what's the >> But the problem is is because you use the gift cards and you did it more than one time and so you so it becomes an additional charge. It's not just the petty theft. But I have it, >> it's the fraud. >> I have the gift card. >> Yeah, but you already used one of the cards. So if you But I have one in there that's not used. >> Where's the other gift card at? >> It's in there. >> Yeah, but he said you loaded three cards. >> So you use one of them. So the other two >> I give back. I'm giving back. It's right there. >> Don't let Yeah. >> This one. >> Yeah, >> sir. >> But you still >> That's the other gift card. The second one she has. >> The other one. Yes. Um, >> perfect. >> Does have you have a way of checking that other one to see if uh what's on it? >> Okay. >> Are you still missing one card? >> You're still missing one that you used already. >> So, there's three cards total, correct? >> Oh, three. Okay, those two. Yeah. So, you got >> even I can pay 150. >> That's not That's not how the store wants to operate. They want they want to press charging. The thing is it's like I said >> I know I understand that they're pressing charges but pressing charges you have two options. You can go home or you can go to jail. So that's why I'm saying if I >> well the store the store made up their mind what they want to do. Right. So now it's it's our hand. So we're we're going to arrest you for the the scheme to the fraud and also the petty theft. Right. >> Okay. So now you're going to go to jail and then you're going to have to get first appearance and then you're going to get probably bond out. They're going to get a court date. >> So I'm going to be sitting in jail >> tonight. Yes. At least tonight. Oh, >> and then then you'll then you then you'll go to court >> at some point in the near future, right? Okay, >> that's why I'm trying to find out what the amount of your fraud your your money that you've actually lost from the business. >> There's no way that I cannot be sitting in jail right now. >> Oh, I mean, >> and getting paper. >> This should have been thought about before you did the action here, >> which is >> which is true. And you admitted to and I give you and I give you credit for at least acknowledging that and then accepting ownership of that. But there's also still consequences for what happened. >> Okay, >> these just don't go these just don't go away. >> I know these things just don't go away on their own. There's a process. Okay, >> so the total um she used was 246. >> Okay, that puts her in the under 300 category, which is a for schemed fraud is a is a misdemeanor charge. Had it been over 300, she would have been in a felony charge. >> Yeah. But what I >> So she still has two counts. One of the >> pardon, she has what? >> She still has two counts. um one of the petty theft and then the scheme to defraud. Yeah. >> Yeah. So there's two charges. But if that saying if the amount I was asking about the amount because you got to find out the amount for an organized scheme or basically scheme to defraud there has to be a threshold. It's not like retail theft where the threshold is 750. The scheme to f over 300. >> So if it's scheme over 300 because a felony charge >> which is much more she would definitely be taking that. >> Okay. Can you at least write my cousin's number down? Cuz I know when I if I go there, I'm going to be calling off a pay phone and not my phone. I don't know that number. >> We'll we'll we'll accommodate that when we get the station cuz we still got to go to the station. She's going to process you and then you're going to get booked. She's going to take you up to county jail. You're going to get booked in there and you'll you'll wait around to your first appearance. >> Jesus Christ. Wait till my Oh my goodness. >> This is really happening to me. >> Okay. >> Well, I have stuff downstairs. Are you guys going to take me? >> What stuff? I have my little bag on the counter with the mirror. >> Probably what they want to do is probably going to want to get your their stuff back from you and either you could they could hold it till I >> none of their stuff is in there. >> Pardon? >> None of their stuff is in my bag. >> So, what stuff do you need downstairs? What's down there? >> I bring I bring my stuff to work to do my face. >> Like your makeup stuff? >> Yeah. >> Do you have your car here? >> I don't have a car. >> How'd you get here? >> Uber. >> You Ubered here? Do you have somebody that can come get it? Like a family [clears throat] member? I would have to call you. >> Yeah, cuz I mean we're not going to take all the stuff to jail. The thing is we don't have all the space. We just take some of your personal effects like your like your purse and your wallet and stuff. If it's closed and all kinds of stuff, we're not we're not going to take that. >> So, you might just have to come back and get it or have somebody pick one of you when you pick up your last check or whatever >> to come get my stuff. No, >> at some point if they if they allow you >> have someone to just >> maybe have somebody else pick it up like your mom or some another family member. just have my cousin. >> I just want to priority while you're here. I can't just tell him, "Hey, can you pick my things up or can you meet me at the jail?" >> See, the problem is like the problem with See, the problem with this is I'll explain to you. I'm not >> I don't what I don't like to do and and this is I've been I've been doing this job for almost 23 years, right? >> I don't like people who have been detained by us calling family because family comes with more friends and people that don't have Listen, I'm not just saying I don't do that before. >> I know, but I'm just saying I don't want you calling other people to say, "Oh, yeah, the cops are here and they got me." Now you're all your family showing up at the store and they want to cause problems. >> I don't want them to come. >> I know, but that's happened in other instances. So, like you said, we have doing I've been doing this a long time. I don't I don't let anybody call anybody until we get to the jail because at at the jail it's it's it's it's pretty much we'll give you a phone call. We'll give you an option to call somebody. >> At the jail, will you guys be able to let me see like >> Yeah. Yeah. When we get when we get to our jail, not the county jail, but when we get to our jail. >> Oh my goodness. Oh my god. >> I just don't want to tell anyone. Oh my god. You got to come here. >> Yeah. >> 7003 is the one that said I'm outstanding. >> Do you have the other gift card? you get credit card that's 250 and that's 150. >> No, cuz this is um showing one of them is showing $10. >> $10? >> Yes. So, he's still missing. You can check that. Check that. Um, I would >> Oh, that right there. >> This? >> No, that's my debit card behind with the words on it. Try that. >> You already searched everything else in there. Nothing else in that bag. >> No, I didn't search it. I was going to search it in the >> I was going to search it down at the station >> and her too before. >> Yeah, downstairs. I was going to search you >> do it here before she gets in her car. You don't want her to put anything in your car. >> So, I was going to take her when I took her down at >> Yeah. And how long can >> cuz we got a we got we got a room here. We can just knock it out here. >> When you take her downstairs, she throws something out or something. she gets in your car, puts something, hides something. So, we got the opportunity to do it here. We'll just do it here. >> Okay. >> We're not on the street, so we'll just knock that out here. >> Okay. So, once um >> Sorry if I'm explaining things, but she's new explaining things. So, it's a learning process, too. So, >> do you have anything that can poke me? >> Just have to go under. >> Do you have a gun? What's your >> 49? >> So, I'm going to two different jails. Well, one our ours is a pro we process you at our station so she can get her paperwork done and then once she's done with her paperwork and we take you up to county jail and then then we deliver them to deliver you to them and they have their own process where they book you in there and you stay there until your first appearance. Okay. >> They'll bring in >> Oh [ __ ] Okay. Is there any So when all that happens, is there a way that someone can come and get like my keys or something? I have a pet at home. She used to eat. She used to use the bathroom. >> That you can arrange with your cousin cuz when you get to town, you're going to have a phone call and you can arrange all that. >> But I'm just making sure I'll be able to give him my house key cuz there's no way to get it. >> I don't know about him getting your house key. There's a piece. And so this mean I can't get Is a house key even in there? It should be on a black lanyard. If it's not, it's downstairs. And if it's downstairs, does that mean that I can't get my house key? I mean, your cousin could come here to and get the housekeep from them. That's something we have to arrange to make sure it's okay. >> Secrets just got hit. I need >> [snorts] >> Thank you, sir. I'll send you the >> be safe. Okay. Take care. I know. I recover. You do recover right now for the rest of the team. Is there something else here? Are you allowed to go to the I just Heat. Heat. Let's see. The 1020 is Watch your head. Watch your step. Yes, I'm really bad.