[gasps] I had a baby with Michael Jackson. >> Everybody want to know me. Everybody want to be me. Every [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Why you outside naked? >> Tallahassee, Florida. The 6th of March, 2024. Just after 1:00 in the afternoon. Hartsfield Way is a quiet street. The kind of place where a delivery van is the biggest event of the day. It's the driver who calls 911, but for a woman standing outside with no clothes on trying to climb into the van. A second call comes seconds later from someone who knows exactly who she is. The officers think they're walking into a welfare check. They are wrong about that because the woman asking them to take her to jail has already told them the truth. They just haven't seen it yet. >> Ma'am, what can we do for you? Why you outside naked? >> John, you need a couple of us to come. >> I'll go with you freely and I'll tell you, sir. >> Native. >> Man, how you gonna know why I'm out here? Free will. We got to solve that so I can move forward. >> Can we Can we go Can we get a a blanket for you? >> Can't get [ __ ] for me right now. Officer will. That's a problem. Kilo November India. >> I don't have free. >> I'm not. Okay. What's your name, sweetie? November. >> Change my name. What is it? Damp boy. >> Oh, you live right here. >> Can we get some clothes for you? Something to cover you up. >> Come on, let's walk this way. I'll walk with you. Is this your house right here? >> Got that coming back to Tucker. Tucker, >> are you Miss Tucker? >> Yes, you are. Okay, Miss Tucker, can we get some clothes for you? >> Well, sweetie, we have to get some clothes on you. Okay. We can't be outside without any clothes on. So, can we at least walk inside the aisle? >> I have to go to the police. Take me to the police station. >> We will in a few minutes. in order for us to take you to the police station. >> I've committed a grievous crime. >> Okay. Well, even with that, you still have to put on some I've not been put on some clothes. >> You have a baby. >> So, what's this right here? >> What's the matter? >> Who is this right here? >> Hello. Anybody else here with you? But >> you have a baby. >> Hello. >> Uhuh. Uh uh uh uh. >> Oh my call. >> Police 35 dispatch. >> Sit down. have a medical out and 23 n >> I got to grab this for you right here. Okay. [laughter] >> Don't cover my head. Don't cover jail cell. >> I have to be in prison for my action before it's >> end. Miss Tucker, one thing at a time. >> Oh, I see it in my vision. [snorts] >> One thing at a time. But we do need to put you put something on you. You do need to cover up. We have to have some kind of clothing around you. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. So, why don't you put that on there? >> End it. >> No, we're not. >> 385. If I just say for your girl, it is. >> Okay. What you say? >> See, cuz EMS is coming, right? So, please put that on. Let me get that for me, please. >> I have to trust. >> Let Let go. >> I have to end it right. I'm going to give it to Let go. >> Okay. Then, give it to me. Okay. Give it to me. >> End it right. >> Thank you. >> I still need you to put on some clothes. >> We're going to hang out right there for just a minute. >> Can we do it in the light? Not in the darkness. >> Yes, ma'am. We're about to We're about to help you step out into the light for a second. Okay. Just hang out right there for me. >> Evaluation for now. >> You call for medical? They're sending trying to send medical and they're asking why. >> I've asked medical, >> ma'am. We can go right through here. We're going to step into the back of that car right there. Okay. >> Okay. Let's just We're just going to walk over here. Okay. You've been Let's just go step over here. >> There you go. Here, I got you. >> Officers came for a woman who wouldn't get dressed. Within a minute of stepping inside, they're calling for a supervisor and asking everyone else to hold back. They found something in the hallway. I won't show you what it was, and this channel won't. What matters is who was inside. Her name was Lucille Tucker, and she was 84. About a year earlier, Lucille's health had started to fail. So, she moved to Tallahassee to live with her daughter, a health care worker who could look after her, an aging mother cared for by her own child. The woman out in the street, begging to be taken to jail. Was that daughter Uh, >> yep. I think we're good with that slip. All right. If you would just have a seat right back there for him. Okay. My camera on naked, right? Yeah. Get her inside. See this? I put a chair around it. >> Is that a heart? >> That looks like a human heart. >> Come in and have a look. >> I think it's your >> He's going to need to get Well, just a second. So, from my understanding, long story short, she was out running around outside naked. They figured out she lived here, got her inside, found that we put the chair over it to protect it. Careful. Careful. >> It's a piece of something bloody. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Be careful of the chair. >> I don't think the chair was originally over. We put it there to keep anybody from stepping on it. >> Heart. >> That's my assessment. >> That's what it looks like. >> I wasn't sure what it was. I stood there with her. Rio went back there. She said, "Oh my god." I like it. Maybe it was a miscarriage or what was going open. You can take a quick look, but somebody needs to stay out here with their victim. >> Okay. Jesus. It's not too too. >> Absolutely not. You can put that chair back over it. >> Uh that might be you're going to stand right there. Yep. >> So you're going to take a log of somebody who's been in out here. >> Okay. >> Me, Rios, Hamburg, and they'll have her permission. Yeah, David. >> Fire's going to come in just to evaluate. Okay. Um, get their whoever goes in, get their information. >> You have watch phone to keep us. >> Perfect. You didn't touch your hand as well, right? Yeah. Keep your phone on you for somebody. That's fine. John Hanberry, come in and have a look. your name. Mike, >> pick your name real quick. William, >> you mind hanging out with her real fast? >> I got all this. >> Ybody else. >> Hey, John. John. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Yeah, someone needs to stay with her. Yes. I just came up here. >> Hey, John. I can go to her if you're trying to do this. So, you >> hang up by her just >> Hey, don't let anybody have contact with her. >> Josh, you've cleared this, right? >> Really? >> We clear the residence. >> She talks, let her talk, but don't don't elicit anything. Okay? >> So, just hang out with her. Your whole goal is to guard her. Make sure she doesn't have any type of medical emergency. Make sure nobody gets go and talks to her. Okay? Nobody talks to her. >> Baby that's coming out my wound going to do it. The baby that's coming out right now going to do it. Let the baby do it. I ain't never told nobody this. So, come on. Don't move her. >> You're good to keep eyes on her for two seconds. Do not talk to her. Do not ask her anything. The camera is on. If she makes any statements, don't say anything. Just if she talks, let her talk, but don't don't elicit anything. Okay? So, just hang out with her. Your whole goal is to guard her. Make sure she doesn't have any type of medical emergency. Make sure nobody gets goes and talks to her. Okay? Nobody talks to her. >> Understood. Receive it. Receive it. Own it. Claim it. End of it, love. No claim, no bondage. Free. Got to fly like the bird. Free. Free at last. Free at last. Thank God almighty. We is free people is free. We is out of bandage. We out of [laughter] bandage, y'all. Just showing y'all that I'm free. That's that last act of kindness for the creation of the universe. Relax. Relax. >> Life is beautiful like the way it was supposed to be created. It is what it is. Y'all throw that [ __ ] Don't run open. Don't close. Don't shut it back. Cuz I ain't did it right. I did it the right way. Sweet dreams are made of these. Who am I to disagree? I travel the world in seven seas. Hey, sweet dreams are made of [singing] these. Who am I to disagree? Hey, I travel the world in seven seas. Everybody want to know me. Everybody want to be me. Everybody want to know me. Everybody want to be me. Every [ __ ] [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] clap bot naughty dread caucasian everybody want to be you mere roster I ger luc it has a little dog and everything in there and dog ain't real dog cannot let be left back on this earth cuz it's created through the on hieroglyphic. Take it to the moon. I can only do it from there. I'll show you it enough in the moon. Don't forget the allseeing eye, eagle eye, everything. Take it all. Nobody can't see blind. Blind everything. Take it all with you. Electricity. I feel it. The woman come through the woman. The man come through the man. That's how lesbianism start. They rape coming out of each other. They rape coming out of each other. I hated rape. I never knew it started from creation. Creator created race. >> Erlene Tucker was 58. For most of her life, she'd done a quiet, hard job. She cared for other people's elderly parents in rehab centers and private homes. But her own family had watched something come and go in her for more than 30 years. She was first hospitalized for a mental health crisis in the early '9s in Palm Beach County. Then again in 2009. A relative would later tell detectives they'd long suspected schizophrenia. though no one could point to a formal diagnosis. And by her own admission, later that day, she'd stopped taking the medication that held the rest of it back. So, here's the quiet tragedy underneath all of it. The person trusted to care for a frail 84 yearear-old woman was herself unwell and slipping, and no one caught it in time. >> She's good. >> Hey, you okay? >> Okay. >> It's okay to ask her. She's okay. We've been tasked with transporting her to the station. >> Okay. Hey, she's she's >> she just got a slip on her. >> You guys um she doesn't have anything. >> No. So far, I don't I don't think you want us to do that either. >> Actually, we can take place. It's fine. So, transport she's now officially detained. >> Yes. >> So, we're going to put her in handcuffs and give her preliminary pat down whatever drive. Perfect. Um, so we're going to we're going to do we're going to take her out. We're going to cover her. We're going to put her back in the car. Then we're going to transport. You remember how to transport, right? >> Transport, starting mileage, any mileage. I showed you how to reset the odometer so you can do 0 every time. We're going to take you to the station. We're going to take her up to C. Misser, >> we're going to have you step out the car for us for just a second. Okay. >> Go ahead and step out the court for me. has to be seen. Can >> you turn around and face the car for me? >> Yes. >> I appreciate that. We're going to we're going to put these on you real quick. Okay. >> Okay. Go ahead and have a seat back in the car for me. Okay. Oh, careful. Careful. Stand back up for me. Can you stand back up for me? Come on. Stand back up and we'll try again. You're right about that. Something ain't right. But we got to get back in this car for a second. Okay. Come on. Let's stand up. We'll retry and then we'll stand. Okay. >> All right. Now, can you slide? Yeah. No. Don't Don't collapse. You got some nice You going to put me in with a handcuff? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Dang. Till we get up to the station. Okay. And then we'll figure it out what's going on from there. All right. >> Want your foot? >> Shimmy me as best you can. There you go. >> Good job. >> You hear the woman's race. >> Not my race. Woman warriors. 12 tribes and their descendant. Descended. Descended. Descended. Descended. Original. You know, I'm tired. I'm about to fall. >> You okay? Yeah. It feels like I'm being placed back there. >> I couldn't hold myself up. >> You can't hold yourself up. >> Yeah. >> I felt like I I was placed in a coffin and buried. >> Okay. As long as you're still talking to me. >> Oh, yeah. I'm still talking. I'm still alive. Can I get up now? >> You're good. You're good to sit up. >> Okay. Hey, you okay? >> You got to Yeah. You got to take away the pain. No more people dying all around the world. people. We must all get rid of the the pain and the atrocity. Got to let it go. Free yourself from about to do it anyway. PR Royal. My mama thought pit lock. We all seven children. No pick out the p. She said pit me. My mama, she ain't told we had to dig it out of her. She would take it to the grave. She was so ashamed on it. Let me see what I got. Miss uh I'm sorry I don't forgot your name. It was your letter or something like that. What was your name, ma'am? Okay. What was your name? >> My birth name Tucker. >> Erlene. Miss Tucker. That's right. I'm sorry. I apologize for forgetting. Would you mind stepping out for me and we're going to walk inside this building right here? >> Hi, ma'am. >> Hey, how you doing? >> Hi. I'm with TPD. Um sorry to bother you. It looks like you're out in the middle of eating. >> Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm on break. >> I'll be uh I'll try to be as brief and quick as I can. We're investigating a homicide that occurred at this apartment that is taped off over here. >> Wait, which one? With the white car, the blue car? >> Yeah, with the white car. Do you know them? >> It's a lady with dreads that lived there. >> Yeah, I think I'm I'm not sure. >> I don't know who all lives in there. I know she has like kids maybe. >> Okay. >> The lady with dreads. Would she be like your age or is she an older? >> She's older than me for sure. Maybe like late 30s. >> Okay. Have you seen anything going on there today or anything unusual? >> It's usually pretty quiet. I mean, I noticed like a few days ago cuz I I take the trash out a lot. I work from home and she was outside like having like a heated conversation. That was kind of odd cuz no one's really on the phone. She was on her phone. I don't know who she was talking to. She's like Caribbean or something. >> Yeah. I think >> she speaks she was speaking, you know, she was speaking something else, but it was like you could tell like the energy. Yeah. Like it was a serious conversation. Maybe a day or two. >> Oh, just a day. >> Yeah. Not like too long ago. That was the only thing out of the ordinary. She was just like standing. >> She was standing, you know, by her car, you know, by that white car. She was just, you know, chatting on the phone. >> Does anybody else live here with you? >> My mom, but she's gone most of the day. >> Okay. She's not here right now or anything. Okay. There appears to be a deceased person inside the house. I can't tell you who it is because I don't I honestly don't know. I have no idea if this was specific, random. I Right now, we don't have enough information to I'm not trying to like scare you. I just want to be honest with you. I have no idea how this happened. We were just called for to check on someone and they were dead and appear that they've been the victim of a homicide. Like it doesn't look like it was. So >> Oh my god. >> Okay. >> So, with that being said, I would certainly be a little bit more vigilant out here. I don't know if I'd let my kids be outside unsupervised, but I really >> with them, but they like they ride the bikes and like the RB Jeep and you know, up and down the road. So, like I don't want to >> I >> I can't tell you specifically how this happened or if it was a specific attack. I don't want to cause any alarm or make you think that there's someone on the loose out here looking for people cuz it it could be a personal matter between two people. It's certainly definitely a we're treating it like a a murder right now. >> Okay. >> I just saw her and was, you know, kind of like staying inside. I uh >> What was she doing? Was she just walking around? >> She was Yeah, she was kind of like she was walking around. She was naked at one point. And she was like dancing and waving her arms and shouting at someone. >> Yeah. >> Some of it appeared like she was just talking to herself. Others I think was corrected like everyone dropping the food off. But I I didn't see her kind of heard her while you're inside. >> Yeah. I I kind of heard like she um she like stopped out when the woman was trying to like drive away. But >> the woman who was delivering the food was yelling stop at her. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. the woman who was outside. Um, yeah. Was me. >> So, someone was delivering her food and the lady yelled at her. >> Trying to leave. I was going to try and maybe we can get like I don't know if it's necessary to get like an order number from if it was like >> You can ask her if she has an order number because >> try and get a driver. >> There's probably not a dash cam in the car, but maybe we can get one. >> So, my tweet got here at like a 110. That's when the email came in. And then uh the woman who is delivering the food was like sat out here for a while. I come in and >> after she dropped off after she dropped off the food. Yeah. A couple more times and saw that like she was still here and then I saw that the police got here and we're talking to the woman and then I I stopped. >> That morning hours before any of this reached the street, the call started around a/4 to 8, Erlene called one of her adult children with a strange question. If you could be any person in the world, who would you be? When they said they'd just be themselves, she named someone famous and hung up. Then she called back to apologize out of nowhere for never telling them who their real father was. She gave a name they didn't know. Then she went silent, so her child drove over to check on her and found their mother standing naked in front of a stranger's white car with a look they'd never seen before. >> She gone. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> I saw her Saturday. >> Okay. Around what time did you see her on Saturday? >> This was around 12. It was a little bit late cuz my daughter was over here. We'll be there in about 5 minutes. So, it was it was after 12. >> After midnight or >> after midnight, I'm sorry. It was It was after midnight. So, that would have been Sunday early Sunday morning. Picked my daughter up from over here. But, it's connected to that monitor. It's just It's just a monitor. >> And do you have access to that monitor on your phone or anything like that? >> No. And so at that time when I came here, the bath using the toilet that's in the room, >> I saw her up using that toilet. And so again, that was the last time I was here, you know, about >> Okay. >> early this morning. >> Okay. Does she sound >> How did she sound this morning? >> Not her typical self. >> Not her typical self. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What made you come over here? >> The what she asked me and then her not responding after I called. >> Okay. All right. And that's what made you come and check on her? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Did you see your mom running out here naked? Did you see her when you came out? >> What did you see when when you got here? >> I saw that she was blocking a car. The car, the white car that was there. She was just standing in front of the car and then she moved and she sat down on in the grass like right over there beside the mailbox. >> That would explain the dirt I saw. >> And then I tried to get out of the car to talk to her. I'm like, "Are you going to go inside to put on some clothes?" Like, you know, go inside. I wasn't close to her, but close enough. So, but close enough for her to hear me. And her mouth was really, really white. And >> has she been known to take any drugs or anything like that? >> No. >> Okay. It could be she just dry mouth. I we have to we have to ask. I'm sorry. And >> I know these questions are not the best. >> And uh and then she, you know, she was holding her chest, you know, I would, you know, like and then she would put her hands down and hold her chest up and then put her hands down. And then I'm just trying to motion to her to go inside >> and and she, you know, she wouldn't she would just kind of look at me and and her the gaze that she was giving me, >> it was it was something that I had not seen before. >> Okay. >> Has my mother been taken away already? >> No, she's just in the car. >> Okay. >> Cuz she keeps walking back and forth and she wants to take clothes back off and >> so we're just keeping her the detained at the moment. >> She called at 7:45. >> 7:45. Okay. And what did she say? >> Was it just general stuff or >> she asked me if I could be any person in the world, who would I be? >> Was that the only thing she said? >> She I mean, well, she she asked about asked me that a couple of times. >> You know, that call ended up getting, you know, she end up hanging up on that. So, she hung up on that. Okay. Um because she she you know I I told her I would be myself and she then came up she came up with somebody you know some famous person and then hung up the phone so I tried to call her back. I couldn't reach her. I I don't know but it was it was between 7:45 and maybe 8 8:15. then end up calling me back and told me that she was sorry that she she was sorry that she didn't tell me who my real father was. She gave me a name who I have absolutely no clue of who what the name is. Hear what I'm about to tell you. There is nothing that you could have done. Okay? It is not your fault. By early afternoon, Erlene was in the back of a patrol car and then in an interview room at the Tallahassee Police Department. What happens over the next few hours is the reason this case took 2 years to resolve because of one strange detail. When a detective asked simple questions, she could answer some. She knew she was at a police station. She knew she was in Tallahassee. She knew the year was 2024. And yet everything around those answers was falling apart. Aliens, robots, the moon, a code she was sure she'd crack. She talked almost without stopping for hours. Watch her here and hold on to the question the courts would spend 2 years trying to answer. Did she understand what she'd done? >> I am love. Greatest gift of all is love. >> Put these on your legs. Okay. These are his cuffs. What we can do is >> It looks like you can probably cuff to the chair. >> So, let's do Miss uh Miss Tucker. Are you right-handed or left-handed? >> Right-handed. >> You're right-handed. So, we can do her left hand. >> Yeah. >> Are you right? >> Yeah, she's right-handed. Rightanded. >> Do you mind leaning forward for me so I can lean forward? He'll get them handcuffs off of you. >> Take the shackle off the fious. You never really free them. That's the problem. They were too free. Why you think I'm still right here at the end? Damn. You see that fairy was going to never let me go. Being fair was never going to let me go. Wow. Why you eat the eat the a e a i o u. A e i o. Hey i o you. Why I made him do that? I didn't make him do that. He stole it early. You want to know the beginning of life? Nah, I did. But I wanted I want the truth to be told. I want to know it was done right the first time. They took it and mix it up to suit their narrative cuz they love that bright morning star at Lucifer. They love that man. They lower that man. They love that man and they low. They high him and they low him. They high him and they lower him. East to the west to the back and forth circle hang in the loin pack in the front I'm just c that's how I get my hand think remember what doing and I use this hand here to capture that see I'm touching myself and it's sizzling and going back up in me like a rapist they didn't want to give up control and power once they had it they seen the mighty imagination and what it can do they see the destruction and know that it could never be destroyed try as you may try as you do Power control. White people started what you see. Who sitting here before you? Who talking? Who tell it to the world? Okay, stand up and I'm owning it. Still in shock to see y'all. See how they do me. >> Hey, I'm Detective Collins. I'm with the police department. >> Yes. >> So, >> I got to tell what I'm thinking. >> You got to tell what you're thinking. >> Yeah. That's the last sign language. That's what we doing. >> Okay. >> Quiet. Then I'm telling myself, I'mma speak out everything. Keep it quiet. [ __ ] Ble. I kill you if you tell. That's what that sign language mean. Learning sign language for the first time. I am. >> You are >> by that [ __ ] w bumble clock. Tell me kill you. >> All seeing. I still go out the eagle eye all the way up in the car. Eagle eye follow me. Blood fire. >> Mhm. I wanted [snorts] to ask you a couple questions. >> Back in a while ago, back in Palm Beach County, I guess you had gone to the hospital. Did they ever give you like an actual diagnosis of a specific issue? >> No, I had to figure out myself. >> Were you ever prescribed medication for it? >> Yeah, they thought I was taking it, but I never did. When I first in 2000, when I first got it and I wasn't taking the pills, I still was getting like something taking my head and baming in the wall that I couldn't know why somebody still trying to kill me and I ain't taking that pill. >> Mhm. >> Like I was in another world still. Why is they doing that to me and I ain't taking that pill? Always been something wrong, >> right? >> And I always got to go back in and figure it out. >> Okay. Um, do you know where you're at right now? >> Yes. Where >> I'm doing this cuz I'm being judged by the creator. >> And do you know where you're at right now? >> Yes, at the police station. >> What city are you in? >> Why I say West Palm? Thanking West Palm Beach. But I know that I'm Tallahassee. Y'all brought me in in Tallahassee. >> Yes, ma'am. You know what year it is? >> Yes. 2024. You That's right. >> Look like you doing sign language, but only myself out. >> No sign language here. >> Don't blocking it so I can know get the truth come out. >> I got you. I'll give you the 2024. >> I don't know any sign language. >> I don't know what you know. >> And you said that you were prescribed medication but you never took it. Do you remember what hospital you went to in Palm Beach County >> the first time? It's a little place cuz I was being abused so bad and stuff. I I want to turn myself up and I need to know what's happening to me. >> What about in 2009? Do you remember what hospital you went to then? >> I remember that clearly. >> What hospital was that? And because I did not time travel, went back in to to get that information. Book book bring me to Columbia. >> What hospital was that you were in in 2009? >> 2009. So when did I have my first child? You still You're still skipping when I had my first child. Why is you skipping that? >> I'm not skipping that. It is. >> I'm I'm not really Well, I'm just not really focus. >> See how you're doing? Hand on the head, hands out. So why would I tell my story to the white man? What kind of sense that made? >> Okay. I'm just talking about >> I can't give my story to a white man. I just can't. >> Okay. Well, I was just talking about the hospital. I don't care. >> At several points, she refuses to talk to the detective in front of her because he's a white man and asks for someone else. It isn't a rational objection. It's part of the same disordered thinking running through everything she says. So, the department rotated detectives and kept going. And when the questions came back around to that afternoon, she answered plainly. >> Dude, you got to go. See, now I'm going to cuss you the [ __ ] out. >> Well, I haven't. >> You got to get your [ __ ] I don't care how nice you is, [ __ ] Get the [ __ ] up out of here. I'm not telling my story to a white man. Period. Point blank. Done. You put a black person in front of me and I tell you what happened cuz I trust them most of all. I know I got to do that to trust y'all in the end and give you my story. >> All right. But what if I still do it and you still do the trickery? Trickeroo. >> See? See how you kicking your leg and shaking? >> Not doing any trick. >> See what I'm talking about? I still can't do that. >> Let me see if I can >> cuz that ain't his story. Got to get the [ __ ] up out of here, [ __ ] >> Okay. >> Stealing teeth, hieroglyphic, every damn thing. That's what y'all did. >> Hey, Miss. How you doing? >> Hey, how you doing? >> Hey, I'm Detective Bruce and this is Detective um >> Howard. >> Howard. You okay? >> Yeah. Huh? You need anything? >> See, I'm scared to talk to you. >> Why you talk to me? >> Give up everything to you cuz what? So, I'm just I have to play out the scenario. >> Okay. >> After what I learned, what I investigate, I see that I'm white and I got to give up my power and control to the black man. >> You think I'm going to do that? Trust faith to to to do it. >> I don't feel like I'm in control of you. >> I'm look white now. I had it based on what I learned. It was all mine. Now you want me to release it to the black man. This the white man talking. Me to release it to the black man. He still got the power in control cuz you still got me bound right here in shackle. So the black man still got me in the shackle. I remember when Michael Jackson I had that baby cuz you know I don't know. I had a baby with Michael Jackson. Sung a song for him. I wrote his song saying everything. He stole it. Call me Ro >> in this from the one as far as I can remember. I know my lips are white and I'm not doing sign letters so I don't care what you do. I'm just telling [snorts] >> his story. >> Whose story? >> Look like the white man's story. It look [snorts] like I know my story. >> Where where's >> Tell the white man story. >> Where's the white man at? >> Trap him inside of me. >> You have a white man inside of you? >> Yeah. >> I want to talk I want to talk to you about what happened today. >> Huh? What happened today? I want to talk to you about what happened. How do we end up here? >> Kill my mama. I killed my mother. >> Okay. >> To find out sacrificial lamb. She was the last murder in the one to the from the 66 to the she wanted she won the last murder. I don't want to be confused. That's why I left it there. And I wasn't never going to come out. I was going to die in there with I had a knock at the door after I killed her. I know people know but nobody still ain't arrest me. I even run out in the road butt naked to show y'all what I did, you know. But I ain't going to tell it. And y'all going to go in the house, see what I did, lock me up. Boom. And I still keep living the same life over and over. Same poor life, misery life, and witches and fairy dust. Cuz you know, everything get taken away. The eyes, the memory, everything. You don't know. No, you're a dummy. So you don't know why something keeps sizzling up in you. I don't know that I trapped the heart or something or the love of my life in there. Maybe that's what happened and I figured that out when I sit in my car and I didn't want to go in the house cuz I know I murdered my mom in that house to figure stuff out. They were mean to me anyways, but I didn't care. I love her so much. I was going to ride in that house with her. I wasn't coming out and I was too scared to touch her and to move her cuz they as they I knew I had to die cuz they told me. >> There it is in her own words. She killed her mother. In the same breath, she called Lucille a sacrificial lamb and said she ran into the road so people would see what she'd done and put her away. She wanted to be caught. Investigators would later document what this footage never shows, that Lucille had been stabbed and that Erlene had removed part of her heart. She told police she did it, in her words, to inspect it, hold two things at once. What she did is horrifying, and the mind that did it believed things that weren't real. On paper, the charge was severe. One count of first-degree premeditated murder held without bond. But premeditated is a word about a rational mind. And nothing about that afternoon was rational. >> Earlier, somebody told me earlier, "How you want to die?" I said, "Y'all could burn me up in here with her." Cuz I love that black lady, her color. But she never really love my black. Somebody made her think she wasn't white. I don't know. Maybe something deep down inside of her made her think she was white. Cuz when I look at her, I [snorts] see black. When she look at me, did she see me? No. She hated me. That's why she hate me so much cuz I looked at white to her and she was black. That's one thing that was never taken away. And then civil all that personality. I had to do all that to forgive myself. Snap out of it real quick. Sometime I come snap I'm a whole different person. I do have technique method clap sound. Come out of it. Feel like my knee broken all the time. My back broken all the time. My neck broke. My back broke. My ankle broke. Wrist broke. everything broke me. People won't check me out and tell me what's wrong with me. They always come back and tell me ain't nothing wrong with me. And I know I feel the pain. You know, I don't want to do surgery cuz I don't want to take myself from the original the originality that the the most high created for me. So therefore, I got to remain who I am and what I am. And I am it is it. This is it. >> Have you ever worked anywhere before? >> Yeah, I worked at I worked >> where you worked >> all my life. >> Where? I took care of the elderly. TJ did something to me. Everybody did something to me. Did they kill me? Everybody kill me. Did I kill their people? Did I kill black white? Did I kill their children and they kill me back? Got to remember all that. Going back to try to remember what you tell me. I think I knew it too. And see it was it's kind of got suppressed going back trying to go back to where you tell me. I realize it's just traumatic. Do you do you know the difference between what's right and what's wrong? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> What's the difference between right and wrong? >> Knowing the truth. >> Knowing the truth. Okay. [snorts] >> Can't stop till I get it. Won't stop till I get the truth. >> The truth. >> Yeah. See, but see if fairy dust. Oh, your eyes. Robots AI blood fire trying to kill me cuz I'm revealing. Is it had it? That's what I see. >> Have you ever been in trouble before? >> In trouble? How? >> Like you ever been arrested or anything? >> Yeah. >> You have? >> Yes, I have. >> For what? >> Yes. >> When was that? >> For raping a baby? Must be. I can't even recall. It must have been suppressed. >> But [snorts] you you raped a baby or the baby raped you? >> Wow. Who could tell? Coming through the canal. That's how way the rape started. And that's what I discovered. the creator of the earth, the original human being. >> Coming through that canal, the passage and the touching, you get you take a piece of everything. You You get it. >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, coming through that canal, that's where that's when the rape happened. >> Have you ever had your rights read to you before? >> You have the right to ruin before you on the court of law. >> Having those rights to mine, you want to talk to me about what happened today? >> Y'all know everything. >> Do you want to talk to me about it? >> No. It is what it is. Okay. >> No need to be going back and forth. I [snorts] realize and I see everything lead back to me. Circle of life can't be destroyed. Ain't >> But just hang on for a second. Do you need me to bring anything? >> So what you trying to say? Taking me to jail forever for life. I got destroyed. I got killed. Y'all keep doing >> I don't know what what >> it ain't like I'mma go out there and still I can't come back. Oh, I have no problem with that. I already know that Erene Tucker cannot come back. >> I cannot come back to the universe nowhere. Have to be killed. Have to be destroyed. I annihilated. They tried everything and did everything. They couldn't even atomic bomb. And I'm still sitting here before you. But I learned that it cannot be destroyed what I created. >> Alien T. That's always thought about that name. ET. I gave it to myself to remember. Huh? I always call myself a ET, but everybody took it. Everybody say they aliens. I wanted to remember that. That's why I gave him about that name. >> Tough. I'm going to get out of here. Okay. >> Y'all ain't going to leave me with all of this memory. Is you? >> No ma'am. >> Thank you. hated my baby. He hated my baby that I created. Had no idea I created a creature. Had no idea I lie with a creature cuz I cracked the matrix. I cracked the code. Oh, that little baby. I couldn't do without that little baby. One that came out the womb. Bust that ozone layer wide open. Crack the matrix. So I have to keep going back in there again cuz can't have no shield and guiding place over nobody. Had to be free. All CNI and all that had to be done. >> Hey. >> Yeah. >> You you from West Palm Beach? >> Yes. >> What hospital did you go to in West Palm Beach? Where else? >> Uh I'm trying to figure out the year I had my daughter. Uh I was sick when I gave birth. Uh she I know she was born in 1984. So 9 - 9 months. >> Mhm. >> I was in that place and I knew what happened to me there. >> What's the name of that place? >> I can't tell you the name of that. You ain't going to put me back in for that name. >> I'm I'm tell it's suppressed. Dang. >> I'm not trying to put you in a hospital. >> I know what happened in there. I can tell you even where how to get you to know I remember doing it willingly >> but that's how the story came back to me that it was willingly that little cut spend some time in there >> you know the name of it >> and I h >> what's the name of it >> I had to do with Cecil Taco >> my daddy >> he put you there >> dang had to be >> you is this all in West Palm Bailglade. >> That's it. Belgade. Yeah. Belgade. >> Belgade. >> Belgade. That's >> I I was born there. Yes. 1966. Black birds. And I'm relating it to my They pluck my brain out and pick it out and then my memory coming back different. So I guess that's how the animals and the creatures I don't know stuff >> and it was so confusing and mixed up. >> Okay. And then I know people tell you study planets animal as you can see there ain't nothing you sit down and you watch nature they will tell you a man and a woman not supposed to be together animals don't make but same sex don't make the same sex. So it was in the everything was in the Bible and see birth canal creator. >> Is Columbia the only hospital you went to or the only facility you went to? >> No. No. >> St. Mary Hospital. >> St. Mary too. >> I went to St. Mary. Three. I'm been locked up three times >> cuz I'm >> St. Mary. >> You know the one from Belgade? >> Mhm. the one where I had my child and I didn't know her father is because I keep going through the plane and they say it's immaculate conception and I would have known if I wasn't going through planes >> and um the last time I went to the hospital I was at Norin McKen wasn't Nor it was 2010 my baby died he died before back. So when he died, I knew I could handle anything cuz I flipped out in uh >> Have you ever been to the hospital here? >> Tallahassee? >> No. No. Yes. for trying to get disability on that final document cuz I'm trying to get disability because of the pain and I'm at the stage where it's just I can't live like that and I and I can't spend my final days not having any money, no nothing. And I know I'm disabled. I know I am. But everybody tell me I'm fine cuz I'm moving my limbs and shaking it. No matter how I shake it and move it, I can go through any pain. >> Do you feel okay? >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Kind of look mad cuz why is this last interrogation? >> I'm like, do this man think I'm crazy? You know, I ain't crazy. >> I just cuz >> I don't want to take my medicine. Told them on papers and documents. Go look it up on papers. The last thing I remember doing on paper on document and I know that it's recalled. I research and I recall that the most money I can I can get money for my disabled like I don't know that percentage was the highest. So I'm going to put that down cuz I know deep down I'm disabled but I know based on when they do the evaluation come back to it they're going to say I ain't disabled. What? Blind everything and they don't see that? How could you not see that? So, everything had to be done. >> Okay. I'm coming up and check on you. Okay. >> Okay. >> You all right? >> I'm fine. >> All right. It's blind. I got my eyes plucked out literally. But when it got done, I ain't felt no pain. My eyes, my brain, everything. Vagina, everything. Cuz I had to find out. And when it was being done, each time I did it, my rider died. Never made sure I never He never leave me lonely. Even though I thought I was lonely, I would [snorts] never let He was ice cold. I made him ice cold. I banish him to the moon and I banish him to cause because of what he do to me and what I did to the babies and how he made creation. [clears throat] Get up. Had to get the eye. Line it up with the eyeglass. laser beam. So, I can't do it without the laser beam. Line it up to the front. You got to do it in the lab cuz I ain't nobody guarant. That's how the scientist did it. Point blank period. I ain't >> Yeah. Can you please free me? >> I can't I can't do that right now. I can set the chair back up. >> I was just trying to see how I did everything. >> Yeah. Here, let me help you set the chair back up for you. >> Okay. >> All right. There you go. All right. All right. Can you slide the chair up a little bit more? >> I can help you. Yeah. There you go. All right. >> This hurts. How long you going to stay on here? Painful. I'm nobody test dummy. I'm not a test dummy. I don't want to be a test dummy. I don't want to be a crash dummy. [sighs] Just unlock it. Find the key. Did I Am I done? I want to be free. Sing this. Sing my song. Say my Say my name. Say my name. Where's no one else around? I was there for you. Say [snorts] my name. Say my name. When no one else around, babe. I was there for you. Say my name. Say my name. [snorts] JC. I always was there for Beyonce. My last child. Baby, STAND UP AND RIDE MORE. [screaming] GET YOUR ORDER. [screaming] Ha ha h you. All right. >> Yes, I'm fine. I'm getting my baby his respect. Baby, I respect you to the end. >> Hey, I'm going to set this chair up for you. Okay, >> that's the idea. Everything and the flashlight. Everything flashing. That's how everything became what it is. D. It's a chant. Ah. >> Yeah. Let me Let me try to help your ears. >> Here come this genie again. >> Why you got to be him coming back to release me every time. The white genie. Oh goodness. >> You should be able to spin. >> I don't want the white genie. >> Please. >> You all right? >> Take this white genie up out of here. [ __ ] this [ __ ] That [ __ ] Get this [ __ ] out of here. I want him out. [ __ ] He won't leave. You see that? Here. Come another white. You trust him. Love y'all. But you know him out. Let me finish telling her story. He's the last one in here. I got to see a black face. I need to tell the blackface story. I know about the moon and where it sat up here looking and watching and knowing the secrets. And that white face is me. So y'all got to get the white face out of here. me the story. Even though I look black, I might not be black. Get me out when you tell that last story. I need to be out this room. All right, Arlene. I'm going to be taking you out to the jail. Okay. [snorts] All right. Do me a favor. Can you stand up for me or scoot over? All right, Miss Miss Tucker, the sooner you cooperate, the sooner we can get you out here and and out of those cops. Okay. Are you Oh, you got one to the chair. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um, I'll cuff you first. All right. >> Hang on. Hang on. Hold on. >> I'm not doing this with you. Let's not be dumb. Okay. Not Nothing's going to happen. Okay. [snorts] >> Why have to be treated like this? Well, you started pulling away and I don't like that. Okay. >> Why do I have to be treated like this? >> Cuz don't move. Uhuh. Uhuh. >> Why am I treated like this? >> I'm I'm trying. Relax. >> Why am I relax? There we go. Okay. Just relax. >> Look. Relax. Don't tense up. Don't pull away. >> You got serious charges, so I don't know what your intentions are. Okay, >> there we go. >> Then y'all just didn't y'all just hear me say I gave them permission to take off the cuff >> and they still putting it on. >> We're putting the cuffs back on. Even to my ankle. >> I gave permission >> for just a second. >> Free will see you. >> Please. Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Please. >> Damn. >> We're going to walk down to my car. Okay. >> I'm not speaking your family. >> Walk out the door. Ma'am, just walk. Ma'am, >> walk. >> For 2 years, the case barely moved. From the outside, it looked stalled, like the system had lost interest in a woman the tabloids had already turned into a headline. It hadn't. It was stuck on the hardest question a courtroom can ask. Not what she did. That was never really in doubt, but whether she understood it, whether the mind that picked up that knife could tell right from wrong at all. Doctors examined her. Reports were filed and argued over. And in November of 2025, more than a year and a half after that afternoon on Hartsfield Way, the court finally answered. Erlene Tucker was found not guilty by reason of insanity. The court's own filings described her as diagnosed with a major mental illness and legally insane at the moment she killed her mother. She did not go to prison. She was committed to a state mental health facility where she remains under treatment. In 2026, a judge was scheduled to review that placement to decide whether she stays or one day walks out under supervision. As of now, that decision hasn't been made public. It would be easy to close this the way the internet did. File it under monster and scroll to the next horror. But sit with the harder truth for a second. No one who actually knew Erlene ever called her a monster. Her own children called her sick for 30 years and tried from a distance to hold her together. If this one stayed with you, the next case is already on the screen. Watch the footage. Draw your own conclusions.