Okay. >> 1580. >> Can you signal 10 Wilmington? How's it going? How you doing, Sergeant? >> Doing good. How are you, sir? >> Not too terribly bad. >> I don't know if we've met. I'm Brian Parsons. >> Mike East. Nice to meet you. I've heard of your name, but that's about it. >> That's never a good thing. >> I never met. >> Um, any of the kids get transported? >> Yes, there's been several transport. There's total 16 with anywhere from very minor to >> Okay. Did they go to uh ACR? >> Yeah. >> See, I think there's two squads just transported. I know at least minimum two in two count squads. And then they've been doing a few whole bunch in there. I don't know if any of them transport any of them or not. They're trying to weed them out quickly. Have they kicked any of the kids loose at all? >> Yes. >> Hey Christina, >> has any of the parents left? >> If they have, you have to ask Mr. King. I've signed off and apparently >> 1314 Wilson. See if you can get a LCS unit rolling this way for an inspection on this school bus. >> You're clear. Just for information, several of the injured will be uh students. A couple have been transported to ACR already. >> It's going to be Adams County, Ohio Valley local school district. Break for the bus number. All right. All right. Looks like it's bus number 56. Ready for lead bumper number. Queen 05 336. Queen 05336. Is there watch yourself? >> Is there another vehicle involved? >> We thought there were no >> just a school bus. >> Okay. Sir Brian Parsons Ben King. >> Um, do you have a list of the kids who were on board the bus by chance? >> I do not. They everyone's been taking it, so I do not have. >> Okay. >> I can this guy down here head. He would he's my transportation department. He could get those kids quick. >> Okay. Do you know have any of the students been released? >> There's been three kids. I believe three kids released. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. >> All right. Don't let anybody else leave for me. I'm going to have to We have to document everybody who was on the bus. Okay. Um, I'll get those three that have been released from you and then we'll get the rest that have went to ACR. Okay. Okay. So, give me just a minute to try some stuff down. >> Union Frank 722930. Union Frank 722 930. Russell Ricketts. Right. going to be 16 juvenile passengers plus that driver. 30 years old. >> What are you guys on the bus? >> Are your parents here yet? >> Um I don't My phone's still on the bus. >> Okay. >> It has all my um contact information from my mom and stuff. >> Okay. >> They ain't got it yet. Um >> Okay. You said your parents are here. Okay. Where are they at? Uh, >> who have you gotten? >> This right here. >> I've gotten >> these people already left, so you're not going to see them. >> Okay. >> These ones are leaving now. So, >> okay. >> Are there >> the parents or the kids? >> Kids. >> Okay. >> Do you have the parents information? >> All right. I'm going to follow you to your parents wherever. Right there. Okay. >> Yes, >> I already talked to you. >> Yes. Okay. No problem. >> Dad. >> Uh, these are the best. >> Is her Does anybody know if her parents are here? >> Her parents have been notified. >> Okay. They're going to meet at the hospital. >> Okay. >> And then the little boy sitting on a bed. So, >> okay. >> And then what about >> he's always going to transport to get out of this? >> Your mom and dad are here. >> Yeah. >> His parents are going to play. Yeah. >> So, we might not transport. >> Dad said that she's coming. >> I'm getting him next. >> Did you get that information? >> Are those people the kids are waiting for him. >> Is this dad? >> This isn't >> Are you a parent? >> Are you a parent? >> I I honestly do not know. I was on the other side. You don't you don't necessarily need your parents. Okay. Um they just have to all be documented as passengers. >> As the superintendent lady right here sitting there at the intersection, the stop sign and saw the bus driver coming. Okay. And she's got some information she can probably share with you. >> Okay. We'll get we'll get to her. >> All righty, man. I'm not going to make you jump in my car unless you want to. Um, if you could just fill this out for me. Just give me your printed name. >> I didn't put my readers on. I'm like, >> uhoh. Just give me your printed name up here at the top. I'll do the second line. Just tell me what you saw and then I'll ask you some questions when you're done. Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Just flag me down whenever you're done with that. Okay. Anything you need? >> No. >> Y >> if you need something, man. I appreciate it. >> Shift guy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Rough. >> Yes. >> I still ain't adjust. It's been December since I got promoted and I still ain't adjusted to it. So, all right. So, Combmes has at least three kids. Four and five. 67 8. Couple been transported. >> Missed a bunch. >> Yeah, >> they said 16. That lady right there said 16. No, we got lake there since 16. I think >> first original said 15. We hop out of this 16. I'm the transportation director. >> Okay. >> Um I was not notified till after the fact. Okay. Um Sarah trooper Sarah Mitchell is the one that we deal with in our district. She's on her way. >> Okay. >> Um to help assist you. I just want to let you know her cross. >> Okay. What' you say your name is? >> Melissa Baker. >> I do too. >> What's your uh telephone number? >> I'll give you my cell. All right. So, here's what I will need from you if you're able to help me out with it. We've got a bunch of kids that we don't know where they went to that either went with parents, been to the hospital. Are you able to get me a list of the 16 kids that were on the bus? >> Yes, I I'm call my assistant, have that done. Yes. >> Okay. We're we're working through it slowly trying to get some, but the numbers aren't adding up for how many we got here, how many they said were on the bus and how many got transported. >> On our buses, we have we're supposed to scan them in. We would know that, but I don't know if he scanned those kids in or not. >> So, we have tablets and on those tablets, when the kids get on the bus, they scan it and that tells us who was on the bus. So, I'll have to get with my driver to see if he done that because if he did, my assistant can send that to you in no time. But if you didn't, that's going to be we're going to have to rely on him to give us that information. >> Okay. >> Or the camera once we pull the camera tape. >> Okay. Well, let's work on on getting that done. I just want to make sure that all of our kids are accounted for. >> Yes. >> Um and then obviously we're going to have to document all of them as passengers in the crash. >> Yes. >> Um I will give you cuz I'm assuming I'm probably going to be running around a lot this morning. >> Yes. >> And our superintendent went to the hospital. >> Okay. to meet the parents and what kids are transported there. >> I will give you that. Uh Sarah Mitchell is coming. She's going to do an inspection for us on the bus. >> Um we will probably call a heavy duty wrecker to get it towed unless >> uh we deal with Larry McFarland. >> Okay. >> We can contact him whenever you tell give us the okay we can contact you. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um we'll see which who is I'm still trying to put it all together. Which one's your driver? >> Coming right here. >> Right here. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Russell >> Russell, do you know who was on your bus? >> Yes. Yes. I 16 students. >> Can you provide him the list and they I got a copy of who was in their seats, where they were, and every like that's all who was on my bus. There's 16 of them. >> And my original scene charts right here. I told you to get a photo copy of it. >> 16. Um, I got a list right here actually written out if you want that as well. >> What I'll have to do is I'm going to have to provide him with addresses, phone numbers. >> Yeah. >> And dates of ours, right? >> Yep. >> Okay. Can I take a picture of this? I'll send >> you care if we keep this. >> No. Take a picture. >> Don't worry about collecting names of these. We'll get that here. >> Okay. I got it. >> They're uh >> All right. >> These are all the They gave me these back. These are the uh emergency forms for all the students that was uh refused to go to refuse to go. >> Yeah. Um and uh I had they have the other ones uh they high school didn't give me it, but they gave the elementary gave me one for her two siblings. But you have these kits listed on here. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Everybody that was on the bus is listed there. >> So you need to know like they refuse treatment. >> No, you just I don't know how. >> Yeah. Yeah, we will. Um let us just write these downs for for a list. Um if you could work on getting that if you just want to send it if you just want to send it to my email uh on that card, I'll I'll get it to him. He's going to be the one handling the trash. Um, has anybody started you on a a statement form yet? >> No. >> Okay. All right. If you want to come with me, I'll get you started on that. Okay. >> And then we'll go from there. All right. >> All right. Thank you. >> Anything I'll be right. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Yep. You're one of the ones that helps me, right? >> Well, it wasn't really much. >> I tried. Sorry. >> Are you done with that? >> Yeah. I hope you can read that. I'm a reader, so >> that's all right. I can read the best I could. >> Well, let me finish her statement up real quick if you just want to hang out there at the front of my car and then I'll get yours done. Okay. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Did you see the bus initially go off the road? >> I did. Could you tell what caused the bus to leave its land of travel? >> No. >> I've tried to figure that out in my head. What made that bus go from here to the ditch inside? I mean, we don't see anything. >> Was there any traffic that you saw any direction in front, behind, beside the bus? >> I'll be back. All right. Did you see any sort of wildlife? Any deer, squirrel, rabbit, anything? Did the driver make any statements to you when you got to him? >> No, he was all worried about kids. No, >> you're fine. Is there anything you'd like to add to your statement? >> That's all I saw. There's nothing really else I can add to it. Praise God. >> Do you have your insurance in here or anything? Ma'am, what is your address? >> Oh, sorry. >> Looked in the wrong spot. What is your date of birth >> and your telephone number? All right, you're good to go, ma'am. I appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Your call, we can flow traffic. You want us to try to flow traffic or we can just leave. Get your measurements all three passengers and I have all of their phone. >> Okay. >> So, I just there's three that I don't know. >> I think that's probably the three that went to ACR. I already the >> Oh, you already got them. >> The other three left. >> Yeah, if you have them just to make sure you >> Yeah, I already know. >> Okay. >> Lissa, >> we'll we'll be able to double >> We'll be able to double check everything. >> I just got Chelsea Matthew. I don't have Louisa. She would have been a high school student. >> I say high school. >> So, the woman I was talking to is the transport transportation director. She's going to send me a list of all the kids that were on the bus with name, address, date of birth, >> telephone number, just to confirm we have everybody. >> I just have two that I haven't talked to. >> Okay, we'll figure out who that is. Um, >> you guys, >> uh, give me just a second. I think since we have so many I think what our plan is going to be since you're going to probably be able to get in contact with everybody easier. I will give you the crash report information and let you disseminate that to all the parents. >> Um it's going to be a lot easier that way than us trying to track down >> everybody. Okay. >> Um so give me just a second. I'll get that road up for you. >> That's fine. >> But this is the driver. Talk to him. Just ca if he will consent to it. Do SFSTs just to make sure. Um, and I haven't started him on a statement. I was going to let you do that since that's my >> uh who did not take this from. >> I'll I'll get it back, sir. Um, once I get him a 90, I'm going to start taking pictures. Sarah's coming out to do an inspection on it. And then, as long as he's not 19, which I don't figure he will be, um, field sketch and keep pushing. Cool. All righty. So, just a written statement of what happened. Uh, ask a bunch of questions afterwards. So, I'll let you write. You can use that pen if you want since I saw some blood on your hand. >> Uh, what happened? >> I don't know what happened. >> Okay. Write that down then. >> That's probably the worst thing to ever say on these things, isn't it? >> No, not really. Morning. But the driver here, uh, school bus off the road, single vehicle. He said he didn't know what happened. >> I think Parsons wants you to do an inspection, I think. Yeah. >> I don't know what you guys do, honestly. >> It's okay. >> I'll put you in. >> Yeah. Well, I actually play I don't know what happened. >> I literally I I all I remember is driving off the road >> and you know Next thing, bam. >> Well, then that's what you write. I don't want you to make anything up or if you don't feel comfortable that you don't remember anything, then just put that you don't remember. >> That's the question now though. >> I'm uh comfortable not saying I don't know. >> Well, if that's what happened, I mean, >> yeah, I'm I'm sorry. I'm >> You're okay. I don't want you to lie on there. So, if you don't know, but I don't know. >> Same with the questions. Cuz if I ask you a question you don't know the answer to, that should be your answer is you don't know. >> I just like driving driving driving up the road and I end up in ditch. >> If that's what happened, >> it'd be better if I put I don't know. >> If you don't know what happened. >> Sorry. I I'm >> I'm so terrified right now. I mean on a on a physical level plus on your emotional level and then I'm thinking what's going to happen down the line. >> So on if this makes you feel any more comfortable on our end so like law enforcement this is no different if you crashed your personal car on your way into work. So it's not like you're dealing with anything criminally. It's not just because you're a bus driver. At the end of the day, it's just a crash, you know. Uh >> that makes you feel better, but it makes you feel worse, too, though. Cuz in my in my head, I'm thinking I have those kids. >> Well, yeah, you do have a responsibility, but >> uh but criminally, there's not much going on here. That's a deer train. >> Yeah. spelled d i t c h, right? >> Yep. >> I'm just keeping with the facts. I know. >> I don't know. I don't know. I probably have to. I don't know. But I mean, it's Do I have to That's literally I mean I was coming up the road >> around the curve. >> Yeah. >> I ended up bus ended up in a ditch. >> Okay. Do you remember how fast you were going about? >> I don't. They they keep track of that though. I mean, I want to say probably 35 45 because on these on these hills, you always want to try to get a little speed at the end because on these hills, these bus don't I mean, you'll be lucky to hit 45 on a small hill. And this is a rather lengthy, you know, elevation, >> right? Um, >> it's just >> Were you distracted by anything? Were you on your cell phone? >> No. No. >> Do either one of you gentlemen want to be present for this for your guys' sake, or it's just getting the statement and everything. You guys don't have to be, but if it make you feel more comfortable. >> Okay. >> Um, >> I was absolutely not on a cell phone. >> Okay. Matter of >> fact, was in the dash vibrate. >> Okay. Were you looking back at the kids? >> Was there anybody screaming? No. >> Anything like that? >> No. >> Okay. Um, >> no. I would have already got on to them. Not at all. >> I It's going to sound boring because it sounds like I'm dragging, but I got the best kids in the world. I mean, I do. My kids are silent and brave. They are well behaved. And actually, >> thank you guys. >> Today, thank you. Actually, today I didn't even have the full amount of kids I was supposed to have. Thank God. Okay. >> You know, >> um, was there anything outside of the vehicle that would have distracted you? Were you looking at anything on the side of the road? >> I do. It was nothing that I can think of or remember that distracted me. >> Okay. I I do pay attention probably more to my mirrors than I should at times as far as because when I come up here, I'm I'm always almost getting curved by the cars. >> Okay. >> Like they're coming down and it's just >> so I'm always trying to keep to the white as much as I can. >> But there was nothing taking your focus off of driving. Correct. Okay. >> Were you wearing your safety belt? >> Yes, I was. >> Okay. It's the only thing that saved me. That safety belt saved my life. Okay. >> Cuz it it literally threw me to my door. That's how I lost my shoe. And >> yeah, that safety seat belt saved my life. >> Okay. Uh what injuries do you have? >> Uh uh a couple cuts on my right leg. Uh, my elbows are a little bruised. Uh, >> just bruises and soreness. >> Yes, that's great. Great. That's >> I'm sorry if I'm rattling. >> No, you're okay. >> I'm starting to come down. It's starting to hit me hard. >> Right. >> How long have you been a bus driver? >> It's my first year. >> Okay. >> I did a month at the beginning of last school year. here. >> Any driving experience before that as of like big trucks like CDLs or anything? >> My first time. First time. >> Were you well rested last night? >> Yes. >> I went to bed at 10:30. Um, >> I had a trip. >> I had a trip this afternoon. >> Okay. Are you impaired by anything? >> No, I do not do alcohol, drugs, or any >> I don't do any. I barely take ibuprofen. >> Okay. Prescribed anything? >> No. What's the last thing you remember before going in the ditch? Last thing I remember is coming up the curb and I check my mirrors. Like I said, these roads are notorious for people just speeding down and swerving around them. So when I come up, I mean, they're really bad cuz you know, school bus, like I said, when it's going up an elevated hill, >> it does not go fast. >> Like I mean, it loses speed tremendously. So when I have people behind me, they're always swerving around me. It does not matter if there's a double line, a dotted line. It doesn't matter if I'm on a country road, >> right? Um, >> so I always, that's one thing I remember cuz when I come up here, when I start the curves and everything, I always check my mirrors. And we'll get to this in a second. Uh after I get done filling this out. Would you consent to field sobriety test just to >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> It would cover you, cover me, cover him. >> Anything I have to do or you want me to do, >> I will do. I want to be the pitcher of cooperation cuz I am I honestly I I want to cooperate. >> Okay. I mean, >> how do you think the crash could have been avoided? >> Maybe guard rails. >> Yeah, >> when you have just hit the guardrail. >> Well, >> maybe uh on a personal level, you mean? >> I mean, as a as a driver, >> as a driver, how the crash could have been avoided? Honestly, I probably could have went a lot slower. A lot slower. Maybe 20 instead. Okay. >> At least until I got up to the very top of the hill where it, you know, breaks out into a straight stretch. >> So, do you think you were going too fast? >> No. No, I don't think I was going too fast. I think that's one of the ways though that would have definitely changed the outcome. It's uh it's like it's like you know there's some curves that's has 35 post it >> there's no way you can go 35 >> right >> you know if you would have you know it you can go 35 but you know >> would you like to add anything else. Anything that I didn't ask you that you think is important? >> Uh, it's okay to say no to that. >> No, no, I I don't >> Okay. >> I don't think so. You guys seem to have it all covered. All righty. So, go ahead and print your name and then come down here, put your current address. If you want, you can put the school address and then sign right below it. Okay. Just thought might help you out so you guys don't have to ask it or >> he's got we as soon as we get done, he'll have to go to after you do everything, he'll have to go to the hospital, too, and be tested and stuff. So, that's part of protocol. >> Yeah, I figured. But >> I'm just going to run them through fields real quick just to make sure. Yep. Start just starting your day off, sir. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually a night shift unit. My schedule got messed around. So, it's going to be the next thing or same thing on the next page. >> So, print your name. >> So, you either getting off or just coming back on. >> I just came back on, but I'm usually on nights. >> Okay. >> So, I usually work 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m., but today I'm working 6:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. >> So, moving around. Yeah, >> I'm okay right now, but I can't promise in 2 hours I'll still have the same energy. >> Well, I understand. >> Yeah. >> Are you going to do this by um roll tape or laser? >> Was everything straight or did he go off-road right way before that curve? I haven't been all the way down there yet. I've been trying >> straight. >> I'll just uh roll a tape. >> All right. Grab me a roll tape, a clipboard, and a piece of paper. I literally just had uh my car serviced. So I uh >> I'll get >> I pulled up next to my This is my car. I pulled up next to my car with the other car and literally opened the door and was like, >> "Yeah, they wouldn't stay with them." >> All right. This is not going to be all pretty. >> It doesn't have to be, trust me. >> But you will understand. >> Okay. able to check the light. See if I can >> the intersection. >> Yeah, just the apex >> apex of the intersection. >> Yeah, the closest one. That'll be fine. >> Thank you. All righty. >> So, like I said, I'm just going to run you through fields real quick. >> They're not difficult. If I don't see anything in your eyes, I probably won't even do the rest. Okay. Yep. >> That's a little bit of a >> Let me check her out. It's >> all there in front of the cruiser. >> In front of that first cruiser. >> Yeah. Well, there's really not the only problem I have is the >> You ain't got >> laser. Well, >> I mean, there's a sign that drive that comes out that there's a sign on that drive that comes out. >> Yeah. Frank Road or whatever. >> I mean, >> what do you want? >> You could do stop sign and that >> I could do guard rail and >> perfect >> and stop sign >> or Yeah. You know what you're doing. I'll just >> Frank Road and Yeah, we'll do that. We'll do a laser. >> Okay. >> Do you need a laser? >> Yeah. >> It's okay. >> I trust you. >> They've got signs up there that infinite ahead. Do you need road signs? >> No. They got signs up. Okay. >> Hey, Parsons. Parsons, >> are you good? >> Yeah. All right. Sorry about that. There's a bunch of distractions on these things. >> All right. You mind just leaning up against right here? >> Like belly first or? >> Nope. Back. Just face me. Put Take your glasses off. >> Are you able to like kind of get your hair out? Okay. If you want, you can hold it there. All right. Just put your feet together for me and put your hands down at your side. Okay. You wear you obviously wear glasses, but are you able to see me right now? >> Yes. >> Okay. Are you able to see the tip of my finger? >> Yes. >> Okay. Just do me a favor and follow the very tip of my finger with your eyes and your eyes only. Do you understand that? >> Oh, no. >> Do you have any head injuries? >> No. >> Concussions? Anything like that? >> No. >> Inner ear conditions? >> No. >> Okay. Any mental health issues? >> No. >> Okay. Say looking at the tip of my finger for me. Okay. You're okay. blinks now, >> but I'm trying not to move my >> You're okay. >> I'm getting nervous. >> Yep. Just relax. You're okay. 1580 W >> 1580. >> I'm 125. Okay. Okay. I'm going to make two small circles around your face. You can put your glasses back on for this one. >> Touch things. >> Yeah. Put them back on, though. I'm going to make two small circles around your face. I'm going to come in towards your nose. I'm not going to touch you, though. It's going to make you go crossey. Are you able to go crossey? >> I don't think so. >> You don't think so? Okay. If you're able to go crossey? >> I've never done that. >> Okay. If you're able to go crossey, just follow it in there, okay? And just try to stay focused on it. >> Okay. >> You ready? >> Yes. >> 134 request McFarland break. >> All right. Go ahead and keep your feet like that. Keep your hands on your side. Okay. >> When I tell you to begin, all I'm going to have you do is you're going to look up at the sky. You're going to close your eyes and you're gonna estimate the passing of 30 seconds. Okay? >> Does that make sense? >> Do I actually count it or >> you just estimate it in your head? Okay. So, don't count out loud, but however you do it, just estimate the passing of 30 seconds. Does that make sense? >> Makes sense. >> Okay. All right. >> Wait. You said pull my eyes as I look up. >> Huh? >> Look up. >> So, I'm going to tell you to look up. I'm going to say it before we begin. Okay. So, I'm going to tell you to look up and then I'm going to tell you to close your eyes. Once I say begin, you're going to begin estimating that passing of 30 seconds. >> Okay. Once you believe that 30 seconds is up, you're going to open up your eyes. You're going to look back down at me, and you're going to tell me to stop. >> Okay? So, I'll tell you to start, you tell me to stop. >> Make sense? >> Yeah. >> You have any questions about it? >> No. >> Okay. Go ahead and look up. Close your eyes. Begin. Okay. How did you uh estimate that? 30 seconds. >> I counted. >> You counted? All right. You can relax. I don't see any signs of impairment or anything. Okay. Like I said, that'll just cover you, cover us, cover the school, everything else. Okay. >> Anything you guys need? You know, I >> Yeah. >> All righty. Well, um I'll have you hang out at the front of this cruiser. Okay. I'm just going to check with supervision, see what all has been done and needs done. Okay. >> Oh, sir. >> Howdy. >> Um, uh, >> so he has to go to the hospital after you guys get done to him. Will you let our bus supervisor know when how and then we got to get him there? >> Okay. >> And stuff. So, >> Yep. She's down here. >> It'll I don't need much else from him, so >> it won't take too long. >> Okay. Okay. Just you guys tell us when. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Larry's help me when my right headlight's like in line. How much that way? >> Huh? >> Can I get >> You got about two foot. >> Yeah, you got about two foot. >> All right. Um, so in a situation >> camera off audio, you're clear. Go ahead and go. All righty. You have I handed you your ID back, right? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. So, your court time and dates up at the top here. Like I said before, it's not a mandatory appearance. You just have to take care of it before that court time and date. And the only reason you have one, if you want to show up to contest it anyway, >> I'm not. >> All right. You can pay with either a certified check or money order made out to this address or you paid over the phone or online. Find amounts down at the bottom. You have any questions about it? No. Okay. He's good to go. Take him to the hospital, whatever you need to do. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yep. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Yep.