I don't want to leave the park yet, though. >> That's not how it works. You're under arrest. You're on my time now. You're pregnant, right? >> Yeah. >> So, we're going to do them in the front, okay? >> Okay. >> That's the rules when you're pregnant. >> Okay. >> On November 6th, 2025, deputies in Clovis, New Mexico, responded to a report of a stolen rifle. >> I mean, we fed him, we clothed him, we you know. >> We got you. What time did all this happen? >> I got the call at 1:34, so I'd say 1:30-ish. And he wasn't home by himself, but for maybe I had just went back to work from lunch. So, um I left, and he was here by himself 30 minutes. >> Okay. >> took place. >> What time did you leave? >> I left at 1:00. >> Left at 1:00? >> Actually, I got to work at 1:15. >> Okay. >> And you can confirm that at my work. >> And you're mom, right? >> Yes, I'm mom. >> Yeah, I don't like cats. >> I I got back to work at at 1:15, 1:16 is when I walked back in. So, he was only here by himself maybe 15 minutes when this happened. I got in, I sat down, I was just getting to work when um my boss came in to talk to me. We're talking about a case that we're working, and then I turned around, and I had like six missed calls from him, one missed call from him, two missed calls from my father-in-law, a text from him saying, "Answer, emergency." And I'm like, "What is going on?" >> Mhm. >> So, I left right away. >> Let's uh let's try to find that mag. >> Okay. Do you want to walk around with him? >> Yeah. >> We can I can go too. >> You want to know what to do with him? >> No, I was running. I had it in my hand, and then I started running after him, and I don't know what happened next. >> Okay, well, we can change your socks. >> We're going to walk? >> Yep. Let's start walking. We'll walk your exact path, because we got to find that mag. Was it loaded? >> I don't believe so. My brother-in-law said he didn't know how to load it. >> What? >> I mean, I feel like we should I we need >> Yeah. >> all of the details, right? >> What? >> You You're saying a lot of the You're saying is not adding up as far as how do you lose a magazine? How do you not know where it went? How does it disappear? So, we need you to be 100% honest right now. >> honest >> So, how does the magazine go missing? We walked the whole >> I had the magazine in my hand. I was running. I was scared. I didn't know what to do. I wasn't in the right mindset. I didn't know what to do. >> But, where is the mag? We should have found it. Unless you think they could have circled back and picked it up. I mean, I don't know. I'm >> I think they got picked up because we drove around for like an hour and a >> The kids probably got They probably made it somewhere, hopped in a car, got picked up or something like that. >> But, as far as the magazine >> The mag >> I gave him the jacket, went into his restroom, heard the door, ran out, they were already running, chased them. I could have caught up to him, but >> Okay. Um if y'all hear anything, please let me know. Um likewise, if we hear anything, get in contact with anybody, we'll let you know. Um >> And then I have questions as far as So, this report, he's going to get charged with robbery. But, I also have questions as far as what we do if the gun is retrieved. Like if you guys do find him and you find the gun on him, what are what steps do I need to take or what if it's sold from here till then? Like what do we do? >> So, the gun is going to going to entered into the national database as stolen. Um he'll be charged with Yeah, he'll be charged with at least aggravated burglary, which is uh entering and then arming themselves. Um and then >> What about the switch? If you all find it on him, would that affect the >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Um I mean the kid's 13 years old, he's not allowed to have any possession of any firearms. Um So, yeah, there's there's definitely a lot of stuff that we'll be doing if we do find him if he has that. Um our main priority is going to be locating him and trying to find the gun right now. >> The next morning, deputies found the other boy's mother. She gave them a different account. >> The fir- first things first, we're looking for >> Uh-huh. >> He's involved in a burglary yesterday. >> In a burglary? >> Yes. And uh we are looking for some stolen property, which would be a a rifle. Have you seen anything like that in your house? >> No. >> Have you seen anything like that? >> No. He told me that the kid yesterday, whenever he went over there to go ride four-wheelers, >> Uh-huh. >> that the kid pulled a gun on him and he knocked it out of his hand and took off running. Um he hasn't had a gun I picked him up, he didn't have no gun. >> Well Okay, well, it's a big concern for us since he's in school and you know how uh with the way the world is now and kids and guns and school. And uh we we really would like to get your consent to go through your house, make sure the gun's not in there. >> I mean, it's a mess cuz we have to be out by the 10th, but I mean, you're more than welcome to. >> That's okay. And >> I mean, it's a mess. >> And you're not as worried about that as >> Yeah, we just >> Yeah, no, I understand. >> And if you just so you understand, you don't have to give us permission. It's just we're asking for it cuz we're we're really worried about the gun and kids. So, as long as you understand that, we're fine with that. >> She agreed to let deputies search the house. Her son denied taking the gun. >> Are you all ready? Can you turn on the light? It's freaking dark. I don't know where you are. >> Which one's >> Um this one. >> How are you guys? >> We're good. >> Good. Get up, let's get out of the room, boys. >> Come on, man. Can you guys hang out right here for a second? >> There's one more, the little guy actually just walked out I think. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I told you that. >> It's okay. Hey, and he's going to want to talk to your son, so you need to go with him, okay? And I'm going to search in that room. >> Okay. >> I want to say that you stole the gun. >> I didn't. Smacked it out of his hand and ran. My mom was saying that I should press charges on him and I'm just like I just want the whole thing to me. I don't know. >> I mean, whatever we have to get to the bottom of it, figure out what's true, figure out where this gun is cuz we don't have it. If he smacked it out of your hands, I would imagine he has it. But he don't. >> Do you what? >> What did you say? >> I said either do I. >> You don't either? >> I don't. >> You don't think it's in it's not in this house? >> You can search it. >> We're going to. Your mom said we could, so we will. I'm just seeing what you have to say about it. >> No, I don't. >> No? >> I don't. >> Who was with you yesterday? Who was with you yesterday when you went over there? >> I don't >> You don't remember who was with you? You see? That's why we don't believe you. I would know who was with me. It's easy. If you If you didn't do anything wrong. Hey Jordan, let me ask you something real quick. For juveniles cuz I don't deal with them as much. I'm going to need to do like a mini Miranda on this kid before I ask him anything. Just not the full thing, just a mini one. All right. >> You're not? >> No, but I do have this. All right, dude. I'm going to give you your Miranda rights real quick just cuz >> It's just because you're a juvenile, okay? And we're here. We're just going to ask you some questions, okay? >> Listen, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him or her present with you while you are being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish. You can stop at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. Do Do you understand each of these rights as I have explained Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us? Do you want to talk? Well, that's it then. >> Nothing in there? >> Mhm. Nothing. >> Subscribe for more police footage with the context behind each investigation. >> Can you put the paperwork in the office? >> That's fine. >> Okay, he's still on probation. I'm going to give you a violation for that, too. If you don't want to be honest, you don't want to be a law-abiding citizen, then we can we can make it just as hard for you. >> Fine. Brian, do you have a cage in yours? >> No. >> You want to take him in I got two more in the back seat. Yeah, or or you can even ride with the sheriff and he can keep talking to you. It don't matter. And then, but you probably need to you need to go up to the office and wait until we're done. So, you can you can just sit in the lobby. We'll just hang out with this kid. Uh the 700 North Main? >> At the sheriff's office? >> Right across from the library, in the big courthouse. >> Does she know what's going on with him? >> Yes. Well, we're going to detain him, and we're going to probably do an arrest warrant if he goes in the car with you or not. >> Why? For the burglary yesterday. >> Yep. >> But if he didn't take the gun, then >> He decided to lawyer up and didn't want to talk to us. >> So. >> we have is the other person's story, which is pretty the probable cause, so >> Yeah. >> If he doesn't want to talk No, if he doesn't want to tell us his story, then that's all the disclosure we have, you know. >> That's all we got. Um So, yeah. You know what? He can ride with me. Come on. Brian, he can ride with me. >> Later at the sheriff's office, a deputy apologized for misunderstanding the boy's probation status. >> I apologize. Here, the last one. >> Is that really >> when we were on the porch it was really cold and I think we miscommunicated with each other. So, I was asking if he was on on probation. And after reviewing the conversation in my head, I was thinking maybe I didn't understand what he was saying, he didn't understand what I was saying. So, I genuinely don't know that after talking to you, I don't know if he knows he's on probation or not. >> I I mean, I don't I don't know if he really is or not cuz they just told him to write it on paper. >> So, a lot of times when we deal with people and we ask them if they're on paper, if they're on probation they'll like try and hide it from us or they'll and so it's easy for us to jump to the conclusion and say, "Oh, so you're here clearly trying to conceal that." >> I mean, that's what he said that he's on like is he on the >> No, that he don't know. Like he just >> I did not know No, they just told him to write it on paper. >> say, "I don't know." when they're trying to lie to us cuz they don't want to lie to us. And so they're like, "I don't know." Like, "Did you rob the bank?" "I don't know." >> Right, right. >> Right, I think he generally doesn't know after talking to you. Makes sense. >> Officers then discussed two possible next steps. This was a police discussion, not a court ruling. >> And so right now based off of what all the information we've gathered and what you've talked about because you you've and that's fine. Like I you can absolutely talk to an attorney, but based on that, we have probable cause that a crime occurred, okay? And in New Mexico right now with the juvenile system based on our probable cause and the fact that there is a firearm that is an automatic, you're going in custody. You're going to jail. Like you're you're going like in in in Clovis, we don't have a jail. We don't have a youth jail. And so, the closest youth jail that's available is Lea County in Lovington. And then there's another one in Las Cruces. And there's one in Farmington, New Mexico. See, it's So, it's far. It's it's super far away. Um so, that's an option we have right now is because I know we have probable cause. I know if we take this in front of a judge, he's going to say yes, there's probable cause. And to be honest, our community is having such a hard time with youth and guns right now that we're not playing around. Like we're we're we're not messing around with it, and I know the judge isn't going to mess around with it. So, if we if we take that route, what would happen? We'd go get a warrant. The judge would sign it. We'd put you in handcuffs. We'd put you in the back of one of our cars, and we would drive you to either Las Cruces, Lea County, one of those places on the other side of the state, and you would be in a jail environment at that point. And you haven't been to jail before, but it's not fun. So, that's option one, right? Option two is we expedite We've already got the report done from yesterday. We send that over to juvenile probation. We expedite the process over there. We get you over there in front of juvenile probation and so you can meet a probation officer, and they have services, and they've got things that they can offer to us because juvenile probation is just like us. And I think that's the most important thing I want you to take from this is none of us are against you. Like we're on team right now. Like you have a whole team of us, and our goal right now is to make sure you have the best life you can. And that carries over to juvenile probation. If we take this report over there, send it over there, then literally we're going to get up and go over there right now, and you're going to meet probably with probation officers, and you're going to get started in the system, and you're going to get started for the rest of your life. Like today's today's the day. And you're you're stopping right now and you're That doesn't mean you're not going to have mistakes and you're not going to do silly things like stay up too late on Xbox or smart off to your mom. Like that's all regular kid behavior. And that stuff is going to happen and we're going to have those hiccups and that that's fine. It just is what it is. It's part of growing up. But we what we are going to stop is anything to do with kids that are me and guns and like this adult gangster lifestyle which is going to end in a complete nightmare and world of for you. Pardon my language but that's where it's going. Is a complete world of where you don't ever you never get to go on vacation, you never travel anywhere and you don't you don't get to experience life as it's intended. And we don't want that for you. So, I'm kind of bouncing this off of you because I need buying from you either way. Whatever we're doing. If you're if you think that going to jail is your best scenario because you know you better than anybody else and you say, "You know what, Sheriff? I need out of here. I need to go to somewhere else. I need to go to like it's not the juvenile jail isn't like what you see on TV. It's it's not like it's almost like a basic training where they cuz you you you fall into a regiment at that point. They're going to make you go to school. They're going to make you get up and eat and you know, all those things are like you you just fall into a schedule and you're you're being watched. So, that's you know you better than me. But if if we send you the JPO route and we do that and you screw up again like a major screw up. Like if you get involved with some kid that has a gun that's huge. Then you're definitely going to be gone. >> Okay. >> See what I'm saying? >> Yeah. >> And so, I want to stop this like right now. I want this to be the end. I want this to be the the last day that of Pardon my language. But this got other things to do. You know what I'm saying? I want to catch real bad, guys. So, what do you What are your thoughts? >> Um like doing a JPO thing. >> Doing the JPO thing? >> Yeah. >> That's your choice. >> Mom, what do you think? What are >> I think that's a good choice, too. >> Well, here's a lesson for you. You've You've asked for an attorney, right? So, we can't We're not going to ask you anything about this you've done and where it went. We've investigated it. We've all came up with our own through our evidence we've collected what we think happened. All right. So, you still You still have charges pending. We're still filing charges, so I don't want you to think that we're like misguided you or something. Like you're still getting charged and there's still a potential that you could go to jail eventually. All we're doing is you're not going to jail right now at this point. Um but you There's a whole criminal justice system that you'll go in front of now. Um but there's services offered and that's the most important thing right now is I think you need services. I think you need somewhere to go in the evening that's positive. I think you need to get back in the school. >> We got a call this morning. Um when we're representing like that, usually you know, it results in a charge like this could result in the detention of the juvenile. However, in talking with the sheriff's office, the decision was made to dis- and expedite the role in this This is what he's been charged with. And I'm going to get into some other stuff as we get through our process, but I just wanted to let you know this is kind of We're just trying to expedite it and meet and then kind of figure out how to proceed from here. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, is there anything that you wanted to >> No, I'm I'm out of here, buddy. Best of luck, dude. Remember what I said. >> Hours later, police received surveillance footage. According to their report, it led them to obtain arrest warrants. Deputies returned for his mother at work. >> I don't need to clock out or >> That's not how it works. You're under arrest. You're on my time now. You're pregnant, right? >> Yeah. >> So, we're going to do it in the front, okay? >> Okay. >> That's the rules when you're pregnant. >> Okay. >> I have somebody coming to pick you up. Watch your step. Um remember the gentleman you talked to this morning at seniors? He's going to want to talk to you. >> The detective? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Come over here by uh back of my car. Be careful, okay? Um where's your son at? >> He's at home. >> Um do you have anyone to take care of him? >> Um my mom. >> Okay. When we get to the the sheriff's office, we're going to give you a chance to make arrangements for your mom to go pick pick him up and take care of him, okay? >> Okay. >> That's just another rule. We have to make sure he's taken care of. >> Okay. So, I almost got really ugly just now when you came to arrest us. I just wanted to apologize cuz I was about to like freak out. >> Well, I'm not freaking out, so you shouldn't either. Come on, let's go this way. Or you know she's going to pat you down. >> At the office, an investigator explained what police believed the video showed and the charges on the warrant. >> Okay. I'm not I'm not going to ask you any questions, but I don't want you to answer any questions. I'm just going to talk to you for a minute, okay? I don't want to get into all the asking questions or anything like that, okay? >> Okay. >> Um but I just want to go over what's going on right now, okay? >> Okay. >> So, you do have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used against you in court, okay? You have the right to have an attorney, and if you cannot afford one, one will be appointed for you. And you have a right to have an attorney present during questioning. Um basically what I'm telling you is you don't have to talk to me or answer questions. Um uh at any time you can stop. If you start answering questions and you want to stop, then And you can stop. You have the right to this time, okay? >> Okay. >> Um those are your rights, as the Constitution allows you and and I'm all about your rights. >> Okay. >> So, we we were done this morning, okay? And then we got a phone call. >> Mhm. >> And we were given a video. >> Mhm. >> And it's a video of you driving your son up, take him to a house, and you got the gun in the car, and you give it to a guy who's a felon, who's also been arrested as we speak. With your son. >> With my son? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Not arrested with your son, but on the video. We have a clear video of you guys. >> Okay. >> Um and that's what happened. We were done this morning, and then this video was given to us in pure strange luck, but you drive up and I we were shocked. I mean, completely shocked, okay? So, that's why we're here. So, the warrant um is for receiving a good stolen firearm, because you had the firearm in your vehicle, the contributing to the delinquency of a minor, cuz your child is a minor. Um it's abuse of child, because you had there was a firearm in the vehicle. And uh this I I don't know what this is about. It's resisting evading or obstructing law obstructing this morning, cuz you didn't tell us at all of that. >> Okay. >> So, um you're looking at some pretty hefty charges. >> Yeah, it sounds like it. >> Okay. >> Oh my god. >> I don't know I I I wish you would have talked to us this morning, so that we would could have just kind of worked through all of this and got it all figured out. Um I like to be a straight shooter, like I'm telling you right now, and I like everybody to be that way with me, too. You know, it's easier to kind of get ahead of it than try to come back after this, okay? And I'm not the one that got the warrant, the lieutenant's someone that got the warrant. Okay, I'm just I'm the investigator. So, and he's out making the other arrest on on the guy you met up with. I'm not even sure what his name is, but he knows he knows all that. >> Okay. >> So, that's what's going on and that's why you're here right now. Okay? Um So, um I don't know they'll get you arraigned and then the judge will make a determination on bail. >> Okay. >> Um I'm not sure how they make the determination on what they do with the bail. Um if there is a bail or if they're going to let you out on a no bail bond or or what they'll do at that point, okay? >> Okay. Um cuz I've never been to jail, so like I don't know. This is like I'm trying not to freak out and like >> Well, take a deep breath. I mean, yeah. Um Yeah, so they'll get you booked in and then you'll be set for an arraignment and that's where it'll go from there. Um The arraignment is that you're going to go before the judge and you'll make your plea of of what you're going to do on your plea, but um I mean, that that's not anything I have anything to do with or will be at or anything like that. >> Okay, I understand. >> The only thing I'll be at is uh the actual court hearing or anything and stuff like that to for what we've done, okay? >> Okay. >> Um My other concern is your child. Where is he? >> He was at home when I went to work. >> Okay, so he's going to be probably taken into custody. Not under arrest, but taken into custody because you can't leave him roaming the streets. >> After a break, the investigator returned to questions about the ride and the gun. >> Just to kind of get to the root of it, um I don't I don't want your son in trouble for something he didn't do. My gut this morning was that the other party which which you didn't know that somebody older had told him to go ahead and take it. But I don't know if he did it on his own or if >> There's honestly no telling. >> Does he run with Is he your boyfriend? I mean, that's I don't know. >> We're not We're not together. Well, not now, but we're just kind of having a kid together kind of >> No, I get it. I mean, you don't have to explain it to me. I absolutely get it. I don't I mean, I live in the real world here. I mean, it's it's okay. Um Um Does your son know him real well? Okay. He's been around him? >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, my I'm I'm assuming also that he was his idea to get to sell it cuz I'm sure My understanding is this guy knows a lot of people and could get rid of that gun. >> I don't know. I just try to be the good mom then whatever, you know, try to be supportive, I guess, and not rock the boat, I guess. >> Okay. But it's not his It's not the other one's dad. They're not related. >> No. No. No, just this one. >> So, did he tell you I need a ride over there or did the the other the older guy I'm just calling him the older guy cuz I don't even I can't call him your boyfriend, but your father of your child young boy child Did he call and say he had somebody to to sell it? >> No. He just asked me for a ride. So, I gave him a ride, but >> Well, you I mean, you saw the gun and obviously >> I saw one, yeah, but I just I don't know. >> Okay. >> I think I'd rather let my lawyer be here, if that's okay. >> That's absolutely fine. >> Just cuz like I don't know like, you know, I'm not I don't know law very well and I don't I just don't want to make say something that's not you know >> No, absolutely. You have every right and I absolutely respect those rights. Okay? >> Cuz I just I don't want to make things any worse than >> No, no, you don't have to talk anymore. It's It's okay. >> Okay. I'm sorry. >> You're not going to hurt my feelings. I do this for a living. So, what this uh the deputy here that went to the bathroom is going to take you to the jail and then get you booked in. >> Okay. >> Um just let him know that you are for how long for how long you are pregnant and all of that stuff, okay? >> Okay. >> Um and they'll get you a copy of the warrant and the paperwork that goes with that so you can read through it and uh >> Okay. >> we'll go from there, okay? >> Okay. >> All right. >> I mean, cuz no matter what, I I'm going to go to jail, is that right? >> Yeah, absolutely. That's This is a warrant for your arrest and so um I like I said, I didn't get the warrant. Um I'm just the investigator, so I hear I I mean, I was involved in watching the video, but I wasn't involved in the paperwork here. >> Okay. >> Um >> Could you just please make sure someone gets a hold of my mom? >> I'm going to do my best, okay? If we don't, then he'll they'll find somebody to foster him for a while until we get this figured out, okay? Um but we'll get somebody down there to get him picked up cuz that I mean, that's my main concern. >> The supplied records end with arrests. They do not include a verdict or establish what ultimately happened to the rifle.