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On December 31st, 2024, officers responded to a domestic disturbance involving mental health crisis and property destruction. This analysis examines the constitutional issues, tactical decisions, and legal standards applied during this volatile encounter. What's up, man? Javier? Yeah, you can listen to her. Is she on the phone right now? Yeah, yeah. Okay, hang it up. Hang it up. Yeah. Is it on now? Yeah. Okay. Okay, so what happened What happened earlier, man? I saw you there We were out there earlier. She's on meds. She's on meds. Yeah. And she's not supposed to drink with the meds, and she's drinking. Just ignore it. Just ignore it. Okay. You know. And and it's just She's totally unhinged. Okay. I had her committed once before. Okay. I mean, there's no There's no reasoning with her. There's no nothing. Yeah. And she chucked She I I would We got stopped over here. Yeah. On the way and went up there where I was going to go. Yeah. And I just sat up there and watched the Penn State game. Uh-huh. And I figured she'd chill and all that stuff, you know. And all she did was blew his phone up. He's got 60 something missed calls, and and I got like 35 or 40 on this one. Okay. >> And I I mean, I've answered and it's the same thing. You know. I mean, she's She's [music] off the wall. Okay. Is she And it ain't because of the relationship between me and him and her [music] because she's accused him She's accused him [music] of cheating and doing this and that and the other thing, and he hasn't. Mhm. I mean, he's going to work every day, you know. One day he actually walked the whole way from here to the island and he didn't even have a ride. He didn't have a ride. Okay. Um You know. And it's just a matter of He's He's going to be out on the 8th. Okay. But it's just it's You said he or she? >> whole while we were in the diner Yeah. She chucked all his stuff back out in front of my car. She has no right touching his stuff. >> Is she at the house right now? Yeah. >> She came back to the house? She's been there. So did you guys leave earlier then? And you left her at the house. Okay. Where do you house. Okay. And that's whenever you guys got the second call of her being in front of the vehicle. Yeah, that was before I came in. So I was just reading the notes on it. Oh, okay. That That was the second time you guys got a call because first time you got a call they they took her back to her room, they talked to her. Things were good for like 15 minutes. >> Mhm. And I just sit and there's a there's a movie I had that was um Oh, it was a Cleveland based movie, Mr. Green, the the the head of the um Oh, the union guys and all that stuff. I mean, it's a really good movie. Oh, man, I was just going to watch it and she comes in there and I told her, I says, "You just need to go back and just chill." And all she did was ran ran her mouth. Okay. >> You know? So it got to the point where she started throwing stuff again. And I told Alby, I said, "Come on, I says, we're just going to leave." Mhm. And she stood in the way, wouldn't let him out of the room. So what I did was I I pushed her aside, you know, so he could get out. Yeah. And and we I went to leave and she said stands in front of the truck. So what I did was I inched forward a little bit at a time and I figured she'd give up, but she didn't give up. Is that your truck that's parked over there in white you all? So is is what happened was Alby said, "Well, is what I'll do." He's like, "I'll pop out of the truck and I'll run her over." I picked her I picked her up and I actually drove just up the street a little bit. >> Yeah. [music] He He just got out and abandoned her is what he did, you know? Okay. So I mean, we were we were going alley over at the diner and then we got stopped, you know, and >> [music] >> and they're like, "Oh, you know, we got to make sure that you guys didn't do nothing to her and this and that." And it's like, we didn't. Yeah. I mean, it was just I [music] figured it for an hour for about an hour, I I figured she'd chill and whatnot, but it it just kept up and up and up and up and up, you know. Um so, they said Hobby was in the lobby, you're not Hobby, then what is your name? It's Jeff. It's Jeff, okay. Yeah, Hobby's in the in the I saw he was in the notes, yes, but you're Jeff, you're not Hobby, okay. I can I can call him over if you want. >> No, you're fine, you're fine. I just want to make sure I was when I put my notes in and I was talking to you instead of Hobby. So, that way if something comes back and he's like, "What do you mean? I was never there." >> Yeah, the thing the thing the thing the I mean, not home all that much. I work on rental properties in Medina. >> Yeah. You know, and I just I'd helped her out a few years ago just to, you know, and she she her and Hobby ended up losing their place in in Medina. >> Yeah. And she's like, "Oh, can you help me out?" Well, I helped her out, she moved in, she was in there for a couple weeks and then >> God! she was in the You know I'm at the Noble House Motel, can you show me the address? And and she got into it with him. >> [music] >> Okay. And they they at Medina Motel and they told him they told him, you know, he had leave. Okay. So, >> he ended up staying over here and he told me, you know, he's he's like, "Well, what do you want for, you know, if I could stay here, you know, cuz I pay 850 plus utilities I got to pay, but you know, it's like 1,100 bucks." And I told him 450, you know, you can have the front room there, you know, since they The boyfriend reported his girlfriend was mixing prescription medication with alcohol and destroying his property. Officers gathered a complete statement before responding. This investigative approach is tactically sound and legally protective. The reported prior involuntary commitment establishes a documented mental health history that officers must consider in their response strategy. Multiple concerning behaviors were reported. Property destruction, physical blocking of egress, and standing in front of a moving vehicle. Each potentially constitutes separate criminal violations. Criminal mischief, unlawful restraint, and creating a hazardous condition. The pattern of repeated calls and failed de-escalation demonstrates that voluntary compliance isn't working. Upon arrival, officers observed the boyfriend's belongings scattered in the snow, providing physical evidence corroborating the complaint. Under Michigan v. Fisher, officers may enter a home without a warrant when they have an objectively reasonable basis to believe that an occupant is seriously injured or imminently threatened with injury. The combination of erratic behavior, medication mixed with alcohol, and ongoing disturbance likely provides sufficient exigent circumstances. >> You know, you can have the front room there. You know, since they had gotten at odds a little bit, but I mean, she's just she's just totally unhinged. Okay, so I have a few questions. So, who all lives at right? That's the address? >> Mhm. Okay, who all lives there? >> of us. All three of All three of you live there currently, right? >> Yeah. So, you, Hobby, and what's her name? Angela. >> Angela. Angela, okay. So, all three of you live there. Are all three of you staying there tonight? You guys >> dude, because I mean, she checked his stuff out and literally she has not quit. She has not >> Is Hobby there currently? Is he at the house? No, he's in the truck right over there. Oh, he's sitting in the truck. Okay, so she's by herself. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. Um, the issue is how long How long lived there? Mhm, what? Maybe a month? Month and a half? A month and a half? She Does she get mail there? Does she have her clothes there? All that stuff? Well, she has all her stuff there because I had it I had four storage units and some of her stuff was in the one storage unit. >> Okay. I have it in at the house right now. So, the issue is I I can't evict her, right? She's established residence. That's going to have to go through the court. >> that, but can you guys actually take her for tonight? I'm going to call her. Yes. Yes. So, that's what I was going to say. I've not talked to her yet. Obviously, she has a working phone because she's blowing you up constantly. Can you give me her phone number? This is his room here. That was his room. I mean, what she didn't have That That's my room. Bringing in a bunch of totes. I had a storage unit like this cleaned out and Angie! The police want to talk to you. First contact reveals the subject's volatility. Officers maintain calm professionalism despite hostility and profanity. This is textbook de-escalation. They're not mirroring her energy or escalating through tone. From a crisis intervention perspective, officers are assessing whether she understands the situation, which is relevant to both criminal responsibility and emergency mental health detention criteria. Notice the officer demonstrating the hand position he wants her to assume. This non-threatening communication technique reduces confusion and provides opportunity for voluntary compliance, which is always preferable to physical compulsion. This reflects modern crisis intervention training that emphasizes de-escalation over force. The subject complies with handcuffing despite verbal protests. Under Graham v. Connor, the reasonableness of force is judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, not with 20/20 hindsight. Officers use only minimal force necessary to secure her. No takedown, no pain compliance, no excessive force. This is objectively reasonable given her agitation but lack of physical resistance. Officers retrieve shoes and coat for the subject despite no legal requirement to do so. This maintains human dignity, reduces injury risk, and demonstrates professionalism that can prevent complaints. The subject's fluctuating demeanor between cooperation and hostility is common in mental health crises. Before placing anyone in a patrol vehicle, officers must search for weapons and contraband. This is both officer safety and liability protection. The subject's statement about not wearing undergarments creates sensitivity, but officers handle it appropriately by asking verbally rather than conducting invasive physical search. Many departments prefer female officers search female subjects, but that's not always feasible. Why did you throw all of this stuff out in the yard? Because he's not welcome here. You don't get to decide that. >> Okay, well, just because he pays my fucking people Do you not understand what I'm saying? That's criminal damaging. It's weird that he's still staying here. These aren't his people. He doesn't even know Jeff. Like, it's He's just doing it to taunt me because he looks like You have no right to throw his stuff out in the yard. Okay, well, he has no right to still sit be sitting here taunting me. I don't want him here. It doesn't matter what you want. This is Okay, well, I don't care. What's Okay. Go ahead and step out here, okay? What? Go ahead and step out here. Okay. Turn around and put your hands behind your back here. You're under arrest, okay? Um, how am I under arrest? >> You're under arrest for disorderly conduct with persistence. Put your palms together, okay? Like you're praying, put your palms together. Palms together. Palm Palms, like you're praying. Okay. You're wanted out of state. >> to bring another fucking female in this fucking house again. piece of shit Yeah, I'm sure you are and so is he. What up? You have some shoes you want to slip on? No. You don't want to take any shoes with you? I don't have any shoes right here. Okay. Come on this way. Watch your step. >> [clears throat] >> piece of shit you stick up for him over me over some fucking female You don't have any shoes, Angie? Nothing? Yeah, I do. Okay, let's put them on so you don't get your feet soaked. Where they at? In here? Here, how about you hang out? I'll get them for you, okay? Is that okay? You want to hang out here with this officer? >> doing this. This is my stuff. Like I'm not What the fuck do you think I'm going to do? Go and harass him? No, I'm just going to go grab them for you and make life easier. Where are they at? In the fucking underneath the fucking thing. >> What do they look like? In here? Yeah, underneath the table. I see one, two. These These gray uh New Balances? These right here? Yeah? All right. Go ahead and you can have a seat if you want. Oh, shit. Careful. Go ahead and stick your foot in. Other one. Get know in, but okay. All right. Go and get your car. All right. All right, stand up. Need a hand? You got it? All right, here I can't fit through the door with you here. We're just going to have a seat in the back of my car, okay? Yep. Was this thing out here with somebody watching, right? Whose stuff is this out here? I don't know. Okay. Is that all yours? I don't know. Okay. All right, go and have a seat. If you put your butt in first, there you go. >> Okay. Actually, I'm sorry. We're going to You don't have any weapons on you. I forgot to search before I said that. >> don't even have any underwear or bra on. Okay. No no weapons though? No. I don't have anything. Okay. All right. Here, scoot over just a little bit. >> purse or something. I don't know. Um I can see if I can Officers document the destroyed property and ask if the boyfriend wants to pursue charges. In property crimes, victim cooperation significantly impacts prosecution success. The boyfriend declines to press charges. This is his legal right. Officers could still file based on their observations, but victim non-cooperation makes conviction unlikely. This victim-centered approach respects his autonomy while offering legal options. The subject is charged with persistent disorderly conduct. The statute generally requires engaging in tumultuous or threatening behavior that creates public alarm and persisting after reasonable warning. The elements are clearly met. Throwing property, blocking egress, standing in front of a vehicle, and continuing disturbance after the first police intervention. Mental health issues may be considered in sentencing, but don't negate criminal responsibility for voluntarily induced impairment. The responding officers receive a grade of A-. They demonstrated excellent de-escalation skills, appropriate minimal force, and professional demeanor throughout. They lose minor points for conducting the pat-down search after attempting to place the subject in the vehicle rather than before four. Additionally, they could have explored emergency mental health detention given the reported medication issues and prior commitment history. The subject receives a grade of D. While mental health and substance use clearly impacted her behavior, she made numerous dangerous decisions, mixing medication with alcohol, destroying property, blocking egress, creating vehicle hazards, and failing to de-escalate after police intervention. She receives credit for ultimately complying with arrest without physical resistance, preventing further escalation. The boyfriend receives a grade of B. He made sound decisions by seeking police assistance rather than physical confrontation, leaving to de-escalate, and providing clear information to officers. His decision to decline property destruction charges, while compassionate, leaves unresolved the pattern of destructive behavior. Key lessons from this case. First, when mental health and criminal behavior intersect, officers must balance enforcement with crisis intervention. Emergency detention may be more appropriate than criminal charges when mental illness is the primary driver. Second, de-escalation techniques work. Calm communication, clear commands, and patience prevented this from becoming a use of force incident. Third, victims of domestic situations have the right to decline prosecution, but that decision should be informed and voluntary, not coerced. Fourth, leaving a volatile situation is not cowardice, it's wisdom. The boyfriend's choice to disengage and seek authorities prevented potential violence. Finally, mixing prescription medication with alcohol creates both medical and legal consequences. Treatment, not just punishment, should be the goal. This case demonstrates the complexity officers face when responding to mental health crises within domestic contexts. What's your perspective on the charging decision? Should emergency mental health detention have been pursued instead? Share your thoughts in the comments. If you found this legal analysis valuable, subscribe for more breakdowns of police interactions. Thank you for watching.
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