You've no reason to be here. If you touch us again, You've no reason You've no reason to be here. Keep your hands off of me. That is battery. That is battery. He has the right to defend himself. >> now committed battery. Leave now. You've been asked a half a dozen times and more to leave the property. You have no reason to be here. >> is crazy. Keep this man at a good distance. I'm asking you to leave the premises. You're acting very aggressive. I'm asking you nicely to leave the premises. You don't leave nicely, you will be escorted off. >> Right. It's a public place. I suggest you leave us be. It's not a public place. It's an organization building. You're a very very angry man, aren't you? No, I'm not an angry man. >> Why are you pointing over there? Don't walk off. Leave the premises. Then, that's you just assaulted him. Leave the premises. That's battery, mate. Leave the premises. Who are you anyway? None of your business. Then you've no reason to be here. You've no reason to be here. You've no reason to be here. If he touches me again, You've no reason You've no reason to be here. Keep your hands off of me. That is battery. That is battery. He has the right to defend himself. Leave now. You've now committed battery. Leave now. You've been asked a half a dozen times and more to leave the property. You have no reason to be here. >> is crazy. Keep this man at a good distance so you can see him. >> to get a distance cuz I think he wants to try targeting you. No, I want you both to stop doing what you're doing. You don't have any authority. You don't have Yes, I do. I'm a police officer and this is police property. >> You're touching me. You are touching me. You are assaulting me. Please stop touching me. You are assaulting me. Thank you. You have no right to touch people. You need to leave the premises. Who do you think you are? You are out of order. You have no reason to be here. You have no reason to be here. How do you know that? Five. Five. Section five. Yeah, public order. You've caused us alarm and distress. Oh, really? And you've got a mask on. I'm not the one wearing a mask with a hood on. Do you not know this? It's called COVID, mate. You silly man. Come away from him. He's a police Leave the premises. You have no reason to be here. >> a police officer to come out? You have no reason to be here. >> outranks you cuz you clearly don't know the law. How about you get your Blackstones out? Get your Blackstones out and look at the law, mate. You have no reason to be here. >> No, we've come to see an inspector. Have you? Which inspector have you come to see? We've come to see the chief constable. >> He's not here. It's Sunday. He's going to be seeing how you act. >> He's not here. He's not here. It's a Sunday. Put it this way, the public are going to want you Which inspector would you like to see? None of your business. Goodbye. It is my business. I'm a police officer and you're on police police ground. Someone's gone crazy. Leave the premises. He's already assaulted my friend twice. Auditor NG is standing outside a police headquarters with his camera simply recording and minding his own business when an officer suddenly approaches with an aggressive attitude. Instead of starting a calm conversation or asking what NG is doing, the officer immediately orders him to leave claiming it is private property and that he has no valid reason to be there. NG calmly explains that the building is publicly funded and open to the public, but the officer continues insisting he must leave when NG asks the officer to identify himself and show his warrant card, the officer initially refuses and becomes defensive creating tension from the very beginning of the encounter. >> He assaulted my friend twice and myself twice. Have you heard of something called section 43 of the Criminal Justice Act 1972? Please leave the premises. You have no reason to be here. >> Schooling to the right of access to any place that's open to the public. This is not open to the public. It's closed. It's a Sunday. But it's still open. There's no barrier stopping me from entering this property. There are no barriers. This is still private property. He's the real police. Secondly, yeah, this is paid by the public through taxes, yeah? So this is classified as public property. I'm not going to argue with you. Leave the premises. That's not arguing. Leave the premises. No. Leave the premises. You have no legal right to be here. We're down here recording and this man's assaulted me twice. He's assaulted this gentleman twice. What What are you doing here? He's made physical Exactly. What are you exactly filming? Are you not bothered about the crimes that have been committed? I'm listening to every what everyone's saying. He's also caused a public fire section order as well. Okay, yes, fair enough. Yes. I would imagine that you're also causing him harassment. No, we are We're walking away. So how how do I get your details down? Yeah, we're walking down this way. We're not reporting a crime. We're telling you that this is what's happening. Another one gone rogue. Action against him. Rogue. Um yes, sure. That's correct. Cuz he's You are walking away. Walking further into the property instead of out of it. You've been asked several times to leave. It doesn't mean you can assault me. >> several times to leave. There is not You're not even open. It's a Sunday. Is this guy for real? Yeah, I'm preventing you from coming onto the property. That's not your place to do that. It is. I work here. This is This is Lincolnshire police property. I know I'm not off on duty, but you have no right to be here. This is a public car park. No, it's not a public car park. It's a police headquarters. >> say visitors over there? Yeah, you're not a lawful visitor here for a lawful reason, are you? I'm a member of the public. No, you're not. I don't own anything here, mate. I can't believe this. To be arrested for what? What for? For the criminal offense I caused. You think we're not pressing charges on you? Excuse me, officer. This man's invaded Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry. Come back. Just Let me take your details down, mate. Constable 235E and Garrick. We want to We want him arrested. 235 G A double R We could even do a private prosecution against you. Do you want to check his warrant card to make sure he's got one? Yeah, I will. I'll check. All right, mate. Just the way he's Just the way he's behaving. Can I take your extraordinary Just Just I'll I'll type that in and I'll speak to one of the investigators against this guy without your details. touches us. So you don't want to That's absolutely fine. As the situation escalates, the officer becomes increasingly confrontational repeating that NG has no reason to be on the property and demanding that he leave immediately. NG challenges the officer's authority and points out that being a police officer does not automatically give him the right to remove people from a publicly accessible area. The officer eventually flashes his warrant card briefly, but continues speaking aggressively and dismissively instead of de-escalating the situation, he focuses on asserting control accusing NG of causing issues while ignoring the fact that NG had been calm and simply recording. So he's He's He's shown me ID. I'm happy with his ID. Uh we can speak to him at a later date about his Do you need Do you need details for a public order offense or a fright? Uh yeah, cuz there needs to be a victim. We're the victim. Yeah. Oh I I am trying to establish what your details are cuz I can't just put victim, you see. Anonymous. You can report crimes anonymous. Uh you can You can report something. You can report anything. But unfortunately, when you're stood in court and who who is going to It's okay. It's okay. Section five. Yeah, public order offense, yeah? It's a member of the public He's used He's a likely I'm talking about section five right now and I'll come to answer that. Section five, someone that's a likely to cause the members of public harassment, alarm or distress. Mhm. This will be recorded on that. Yeah. Yes. Cuz also when there's a section five public order actually happens and then a constable turns up. If the section five is not continuing, then there's a different procedure. You look at the details on the CPS charging device. I I appreciate what you're you're telling me, but you mate, go and look it up. Don't worry about it. I I I come up on the you know, the river on a banana boat. So don't start telling me exactly what's happening. I'm trying to establish your details so I can put them on a crime. Love it. So then it's on the system so then there's a record of what's happened. You don't need our details to do that. You said this. You We're going around in circles here. And I'm now I'm trying to get down into the nuts and bolts of your allegation of assault. So I need to have I'm not saying assault. I said battery. So has he physically Assault could also be someone walking down the street with a Did he cause you Did he cause you to feel immediate lawful violence? And then someone tries to pull that and cause fear of violence. I also I also can only do The encounter turns physical when the officer follows NG and puts his hands on him despite there being no clear legal grounds to do so. NG repeatedly tells him to stop touching him and points out that this could amount to battery. The officer then tries to justify his behavior by claiming NG is committing a section five public order offense and causing alarm or distress. However, NG maintains that he is only recording in a public place and even attempts to walk away while the officer continues to pursue the confrontation and insist that NG leave the premises. What I can do as a PC come That's why I was asking you for a sergeant or inspector. Yeah, but he can only make inquiries. >> Because we're here for a reason. What is your reason? Cuz I I can't just summon a sergeant and inspector on the basis of these two random anonymous people outside. We We can advise the We actually come here to see an inspector. Okay. That's what our main reason to come here was. I Unfortunately, I need to have a reason. I can't just summon an inspector. Where's your insignia? Why isn't it on your shoulders? There's five on me. You don't have to wear You don't have to wear them. I don't have a Vauxhall insignia. All right. So you you want to speak to an inspector and that's it, yeah? Says he don't have a Vauxhall insignia. Right. Okay. Well, I will I'll tell you what. I will go and park the car up. I'll make inquiries about whether an inspector wants to come out and speak to people that are not willing to identify themselves. Where's your numbers anyway? I can't see or wait. How do we ID My sliders are currently waiting in our stores office. 11594, mate. I'm not I'm not No dramas. No dramas. I don't have to give you my Just so you know. They can't take anything unless we give them all our details. Which is wrong. They need to know If you're going to make an allegation, they need to know who you are. Let it Let's just be honest. Complaints, allegations, you don't need to give your name. Look, this is We've given as much advice as we possibly can. Look, this this is a land. Section 117 of the criminal justice act 1972 gives us the right to access anywhere that's open to the public. And cuz this is a publicly funded building Really? Do you Do you work for the free tax? It doesn't matter, does it? Do you work for the free It doesn't matter. Do you pay tax? It doesn't matter. Probably not. Oh, okay then. So you're saying there's no I'm being recorded. Yeah, it's just capacity varies, do you understand me? But there's nothing that says private property. It's just capacity varies. Simple as that. Okay. For what? Calm down. You have to have a beer. Eventually another officer arrives and begins trying to understand what has happened. NG explains that the off-duty officer has already touched him and his friends several times and that the incident has been captured on video. Once accountability becomes a possibility, the earlier aggression begins to fade and the focus shifts to requesting NG's details for a report. NG points out that officers can still log incidents without forcing members of the public to hand over their personal information as the discussion continues and the legal arguments are raised, the officers appear to step back from the confrontation and the situation gradually de-escalates after it becomes clear that the earlier actions may not have been justified.