She admitted to stealing over close to almost $8,000 in 16 16 weeks. >> She was taking $80 a day for that. >> It's going to be a what? Third degree. It's over five grand. You're welcome. >> Yeah. I can't authorize it. All right. Stand up for me, please. >> How you doing? >> Hey, good. How are you? >> I'm good. Okay. >> Uh, yeah. I guess there was a shoplifter. Which way to loss prevention? >> Say what? Which way to loss prevention? That was a shoplifting. >> Um, there's a trace right there. So, you can ask. >> Perfect. Thank you [clears throat] very much. >> Okay. >> Yep. They're all going to be upstairs in the back office. >> Okay. That's where the shoplifters and everything. >> Uh, not aware, but I know they were all upstairs interviewing the two girls and all that. >> Okay. Next over that way. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Did you get any of those business cards I told you about? Thank you very much. Hello. >> How we doing? >> Hey, how are you? Sebastian, nice to meet you. >> Hi guys, John. I'm the district manager for security for the area. >> Hi. What you guys? >> So, what we had was we had two associates that were stealing out of our click and collect. Mhm. >> For the next store, this associate I have in here, she admitted to stealing over close to almost $8,000 in 16 16 weeks. >> So, what she was doing was she would fill out the orders for the customers >> which would have a white label on the bag. Then she would fill up a bag with her own stuff and just walk out the door, go to her car, and put the items in her car. >> So, she said she started it in December 2024. She worked 6 days a week. She was taking $80 a day >> for that. So, it comes out to like $7,600, which we're getting the statement right now. >> So, Bark did the investigation. He has all the video on it. Um, so I don't know if the police are going to sign the complaints or just file the report or we'll come down. >> For that amount, we can handle that. >> Yeah. So, I mean, the video Bart has, so I'll leave you when Bart cuz he's the one that did it all. >> Yeah. Perfect. >> I'm only the one that gets credit for it. [laughter] >> All right. Perfect. Thank you. >> Um, we have her in custody right now. >> Nice. Should I go? Should we take them now? Well, if they're if she's giving a statement, we'll let her finish up her statement. >> Right. That's a lot of video. Okay. So, let me show them on camera so we have an idea. But don't mind the office. >> Oh, please. So, I just been taking notes for the last few weeks and freaking I'm going to pick a date and just show you. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> And it's pretty much the same thing she was doing on all the instances. Yeah, I was just I was just thinking, you know, whatever I show you, it's the same. >> Yeah, >> the same thing, but um pick this thing here. This is June 5th, which is just about >> 5 days ago. So, the one that you guys are going to pick up is this one in the hat, Cat Chrissy. That's the other girl that um my boss was talking about the other participant. So this is a click collect, you know, online orders. So this one, she has a bag putting stuff in. They usually can't find her cart. >> As she's shopping, she puts stuff in here, >> you know, and um accumulates over the duration of the shift. Every day, pick a day. I go back to April. We put it back here. I'll show you the spin deck. Um, so now this one's doing a little lookout. She'll look down here for her. This one's going to flash. So, she's going to grab her bag she's been collecting. She's going to go out, look to her left to see if anybody's [ __ ] mad or anybody sitting for break, smoke break, anything. All clear. she leaves. This is her car right here. >> These are the click spots. So when you call them, yeah, I'm here to pick up my order, you just park in one of these. She conveniently parks the closest one. >> All right. So, she has the bag set up for the click collect and then as they're going around, they're putting items in that separate bag. >> No, it's >> And then when they go bring it back, they put it to the side. Then the other party grabs it. >> Yes. and they kind of be look out for each other and they drop it off in the car. >> Yeah. But she has her stuff she puts in her car and I just wanted you to see she does drop stuff in her car. So it's a team effort. They do their own shopping um you know. So is that 80 bucks a piece or is it total 80 bucks roughly per day? >> So roughly about 80 bucks a day. a little bit. >> Um, so I can just give you this video, you know, the best sufficient for you um to make sure you go in a car. >> Um, do you are you able to put them do you have all the videos handy for all these? >> That's all. >> Yeah. >> Do you have any other copies of them or is that everything that you have? >> I can always take all those discs and just put them all in. I can take all those disl if you want more than one example and that can give you two. >> Yeah, just to make it a full case load. We'll just throw all the videos on there so everything's in evidence just in case for some reason. >> No problem. >> They don't have going to go to the >> I guess it's going to be what third degree it's over five grand. >> So it'll go up there. >> So they should they're going to want to have all the video. >> Okay. So I'll drop that off. Perfect. >> Right. And then when you come drop it off, are you willing to fill out a statement just from what you saw? This is what you did and all that. >> No problem. >> And then whatever she said to you guys investigation. >> Okay. >> And is the is it all on video the what she's telling you guys? >> Oh, okay. I just get a copy of that too. Under New Jersey Code Section 2C col-4, theft by deception is a thirdderee crime when the value of property obtained falls between $500 and $75,000. Third degree in New Jersey carries 3 to 5 years in state prison and fines up to $15,000. The admitted value here exceeds that lower threshold by a factor of 15. Miranda versus Arizona requires rights advisement only when law enforcement conducts custodial interrogation. Store investigators are private actors, not state agents, and fifth amendment protections simply do not reach them. Still, the defense will examine voluntariness. Coercion by a private party does not trigger Miranda, but it can support a fifth amendment challenge. Was the statement the product of compulsion rather than a free decision? That challenge rarely succeeds in the private employer context, but it is the only viable suppression avenue available. How the interview was conducted, not whether Miranda was read, is the question the defense will press. is going shopping. Somewhere else it's very hard to distinguish or I don't have a list. >> Yeah, I was going to say, do you have any list of what you've been taking or is it just not able to figure that out? >> Yeah, but um you know, we look over there and there's nothing in the morning there. But now you losing three bags. the lunch box and I check her rewards card. She's not checking out that part. >> But um yeah, I'll make sure to put these other on. >> And with the other one, what are you trying to do with the other one? Do you want us to put charges on her as well? Are you waiting? It's >> only $100. Oh, so that was only the one time that she >> told her she just wouldn't admit to we don't have a valid number and she admit it's $100. So I'm not even going to waste your time. >> Okay. Fire trespasses in the area something like that. >> Uh she did get suspended termination. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So I don't think they're going to um but yeah every day. So I'll make sure to get you guys. Do we have a thumb drive? >> Okay. But it's going to take me a while to get those discs on, you know, all that. >> Yeah. As soon as it's ready, I'll drop it off for him. I'll stop at the PD. Um, >> and if it's today, tomorrow, the next day. >> Yeah, I'll leave this. I'll make it >> I'll leave you a business card with the case number on it, so you can just throw like an envelope, throw my badge number on, I'll get it. We'll see. And what's your name? Do you have a business card for yourself that I can throw you on there? on the railing. This district cover the region. So I have anywhere from Connecticut all the way down the white hidden on the weekends I cover especially Connecticut there something up in Connecticut you know what's a good for you71 56 >> okay that is for you and what's the name of the employer I forgot her last name is that written down somewhere in one Uh, I guess the admission statement, her name will be on there. >> And whatever information you can, on her. >> I can get the other information here, too. As long as I get her name on here for now. >> Something. >> That's okay. And I better not get woken up at 3:00 in the morning like last night. Who's What's the other one's name? >> Girls um Angela. >> Angela. >> Okay. >> And when did all this stuff pretty much start? You said since December 24th December 24th. So her name is That's how you spell that. She actually spell out her name. You should know you're walk around the garage. Just be honest just like you were with go a long way with you. >> Yeah. Good. >> Okay. And it was 12:24 till now. >> Yeah. And it was approximately $80 a day. >> Mhm. 6 days a week. So it's about 40 a month to say 40 a week. Uh what do we get it for? 70 600 $20 7620. Yep. Okay. Any chance I can get a copy of your notes as well just to kind of direct all the way to the >> That's okay. Just so the prosecutor's office or they can look at everything >> if they need to uh look at specific instance even though they're going to have the videos and stuff. >> Yeah. Give me a couple specifications. >> Unless you want to Would it be easier when he does his case return? >> Oh, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. >> Detailed and streamlined for you. Yeah, perfect. >> All right. >> Yep. >> Yeah, I'll get it. >> Yeah. The notes that you sent me, I was going crazy. I'm like all over. I'm like, what happened here? What was you know? Yeah. Two two and a half weeks. 31360 county. Can I have a case number, please? Children now 313. Can I have a case number, please? crew number 21415 214. >> Thanks. All right. So, that's my name, badge, number, case number for you. Thank you. Yeah. When you're throwing an envelope, just throw my name badge number on there and I'll get it. We'll get everything out there. I'll work on it tonight. Get on the video onto a jump run and we'll go from there. >> Perfect. >> No. Awesome. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. >> Thank you guys for taking all right. >> Yeah, we'll take whenever she's ready. Whenever you guys are ready. >> You have any bags or property here? >> All right. She does. >> Are you guys able to keep that stuff here until she gets out and allow her back in afterwards to get her? >> Keep it up. >> Okay, perfect. Thank you. >> As long as it's okay for you guys to be safe here until she gets released or what have you cuz depending on how it goes, I don't know if she's going to go to county jail or get released with a court date. So, we might just be able to bring her right back and grab everything. >> Okay. >> Thank you. I have one request. Um, any medicine first? >> Uh, any medicine? We can call out medics and we can get you to a hospital if we need to. We can't provide you any medication. >> Can I just take my medicine? >> Can't do that right now. >> Really? >> Yeah. I can't authorize it. All right. Stand up for me, please. >> Got to do it. >> Just so you know, everything's about to be recorded on body camera. >> I know, but we still have to turn around for me. What time do you have to pick your kids up? >> At 2:10. >> At 2:10. All right. This might only take us about an hour. So depending on what's happening, we may be able to get you back to your car and you'll be able to get them. >> It's about uh 10:30. >> So it shouldn't take us too long, but if it does extend into where you need to get them, we'll help you. >> All right. Anything in pockets? You have any pockets? >> Phone up there. >> All right. Well, we'll keep that there for now. We'll get a female to search you when we get back to headquarters. >> Is there an elevator up here? No. >> No. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Hold on one second. I'm just going to stand for you in case you start tripping the phone. He's going to hold you up. Okay. >> Well, I'm here if you do. All right. Take care. >> Thank you guys. >> Well, we're parked in the front. Yeah, you have to walk all the way around. >> Is there a back entrance? Well, do you know if there's a back entrance right over here? >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Yeah. Everything's still going to be here. It's going to be helper for safekeeping. >> Yeah. And because we may end up releasing and giving you a ride right back here so you can get all your properties tonight. >> Yeah. And if you feel like you do need medication or if you feel like something extra's going on, let us know. We'll get the EMS and medics out and we can take you to the hospital to get uh whatever medications you may need. >> Okay. Do you have a big criminal history or anything like that? I I did in the past. >> In the past, anything recent with the past 5 years or anything like that? No. How many times you've been arrested for shoplifting? >> In the past? Twice? >> Twice. Okay. Convicted or no? >> Uh >> reduced in court? Anything? >> No, they were they were two remember exactly. There was two. I didn't do any jail time. I just went to court twice. I paid fines, but I didn't get it all straightened out until Okay. I um I lived in Arizona for many many years and I came back about you know 7 years ago and that's when I started um that's when my life got better cuz I was out of bed for a lot. >> Okay. So um when I came back from Arizona I had I couldn't get my license from those priors. >> So I paid that all off my license back you know everything back together. So I don't think >> you put all the bags back. >> They're in the trunk. Thank you for the back entrance thing. Oh, absolutely. That's huge. Just hold on one second. There might be another bag. Okay, come on. Watch your head going in. Yeah. I know it's a little bit seat belt around you. And sometimes it can help if you turn yourself sideways a little bit. If you want Well, do you want to go the other way or whichever way is a little bit easier for you? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> We got nothing. Simple enough. And all we got to do is CC fingerprint photographs. >> All 7,000. >> Yeah. With the pet since December 2024. $80 a day, six days a week. >> Wow, that's a lot. >> Yesterday. >> Hey S, you need a key? Key. Key. Yeah. Thank you. >> Start the car with my key when there's already a key in it. >> Yep. So, the way that communication goes, badging over to county, we're transporting one of Bill's female 41 to headquarters and we tell our mileage. Just we tell the mileage. >> Where's my right there? 3161 the county >> 3161 >> we're going to be transporting one adult female 41 starting mileage is 96523.9 >> yeah I just heard the rat going I'll come help me He doesn't know about the wrench on this one. >> He doesn't know how to seat ratchet down. >> Okay. >> You got it. Yeah. Forward while you just have a little texture. >> Yeah. >> Well, if you want try to turn your body a little sideways, get it toward the door. Like keep your knees out this way. >> Maybe. All right. Yeah, this might be necessary. >> It's okay. Yeah. Can we >> I'll do this for you there cuz I know it's safe.