Police ruin scammer's birthday with a handcuff gift. Check this fraud scheme exposed. >> Hello, ma'am. >> Hello. >> Hi, we need to talk to you for a minute. >> Okay. I don't think I'm at this. >> Okay. All right, can we go over here real quick? >> Yeah. Did your friend ask you to bring her over here or? >> Yeah, cuz her car needs to be um repaired for the brakes and something underneath the bottom. >> Oh. >> I don't know. >> Okay. So, you don't know why she's going in there? >> No. >> Okay. >> Um at this point uh you're not free to leave, okay? And we are going to be asking you questions that are uh incriminating in nature or could be incriminating in nature. So, I'm going to read you your Miranda warning. >> What happened? She don't got to stick the plate. >> Yeah, but I don't know. What happened? >> Yeah, he got to stick the plate, but he got like that. >> Yeah, it's not that. This would have been totally different if you had you know, but I see you guys are like Two cars, three cars, I've seen like another car. >> Four, because mine is over there. >> With these rights in mind, are you willing to talk to us? >> Yeah. >> Okay, perfect. Like I said, I don't have any questions right this second, but um except for some I guess preliminary stuff, but um what are you uh what are you doing today? >> Um I was just trying to cash a bond. >> A bond and a receipt? A bond and a receipt? Okay, where'd you get the bond from? >> Um I actually got it from my cousin. >> Yeah, I don't know the whole story, so that's why they're trying to figure out you know, how it's going. >> And do you know where she got the bond from? >> Um no, I don't. >> Okay. >> Um I know that it was from my grandmother that passed away and she just gave it to me and told me that I couldn't do it. >> Okay, it was from it's your grandmother that passed away? >> Yeah, it was our grandmother. >> Yeah, my grandmother passed away, yes. >> Okay. >> She said she has no idea what she was talking about from the office. >> Your car is is down right now. >> Where are you guys coming from? >> We were going to celebrate Today is my birthday. We were going to celebrate my birthday. >> When did your grandmother pass? >> My grandmother passed away like a year ago. >> A year ago? Okay. And was your cousin hanging on to these bonds the whole time or or how? >> From what I was under the impression she was. >> Okay, I got you. >> Uh if you can Miranda, serve her with this. You want to go? >> No, no, no. I'm It's Everyone thinks Oh, yeah, when we do that they're going to go crazy. Yeah. This is just to protect your rights. Um >> Can I call Maria, please? >> Yeah, go ahead. >> When did your cousin get these bonds to you or this bond to you? >> Well, I got it 2 days ago. >> Got you. Did she give it to you by mail or did she give it in person? >> In person. >> In person. Okay, I got you. >> Right now. >> Okay. Do you know what her phone number is off the top of your head? >> No. >> Do you understand these rights? And with these rights in mind, are you willing to talk to them? >> Yes. >> Okay. Just There are a few things you >> Not really. A lot of people think that, but no. >> No, because listen, I I've had a difficult life and I'm trying to get my life together. Today is my birthday. >> I'm sorry, I know. >> How often do you see your cousin? >> Um well, I live in Claremont, so >> Oh, you live in Claremont? >> Yeah. >> Okay, I got you. >> see her that often cuz I have a son, >> Oh, yeah, that that makes sense. >> and I'm in school, >> Oh, what are you in school for? >> Social work. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. I'm in grad school, so >> Oh, very nice. Okay, good stuff. >> Was she trying to cash a check or just take money out for? >> Um she didn't have a check. It was something from her grandma passing away. >> You said something like what? Do you know? >> Um I don't remember. It was in It was in her book bag. >> Same thing, sir. Same Same checks? >> Yeah. They look like they're printing them off a printer thing, but what's getting them caught up is this. You got a check dated for '92 and you were born in '96. >> Um Are you going to family's or are you coming from family? >> I have I have a family. So, um I >> well I was home and then I was going to my family and I was actually on my way back home. >> Yes she had Daytona or in beach and a couple of other stores and they all denied her and she came here. >> You're wet. You want me to get out something to stand under there so you're not getting wet? My kid is wet. You want me to get you to your residence? No I'm serious here so >> I don't know. I just read you those rights you know so I can have specific ones. So that's all. For now I don't see why we can't let you go unless they you know have a different story to tell or what not. So we just got you know calls saying that she wrote was in this car so that's why you know you're not free to leave right now. It's up to you whatever you want. >> No it's not funny because what is this? >> What? >> Has she not been in trouble before with the law and a good girl? >> Who's the person driving in the >> That's my baby. >> Baby? Who's baby do you mean? >> She's my friend. >> Your friend? Okay I got you. Was she with you all day or have you been with her all day? >> Yeah um she picked me up from her residence. >> From your house? Okay so she went to your family's Okay I got you. All righty. Did she knew that know that you had this bond and everything like that? >> Um I mean she dropped me off. >> I got you. Did you tell her what you uh you were coming in here for or you just told her you needed to go to the bank? >> No I just told her I needed to come in here. >> Okay I got you no worries. All righty. Appreciate you hanging out for me. Sergeant I'm going to go talk to driver. >> On July 16th, 2024 officers in Central Florida responded to a TD Bank branch reporting check fraud in progress the beginning of a coordinated three suspect ring that would unravel live on body cam. This encounter turns on five legal questions. The Fourth Amendment basis for detaining the driver, Miranda waiver consequences, principal liability for facilitators, real-time evidence destruction, and the compounding impact of committing a new offense on active felony probation. >> Hello. >> Hi. >> I'm Corporal Johnson. >> How you doing? >> I'm doing all right. Um so, like I was explaining to um I'm sorry, who the Uh-huh. >> Lana. >> Lana, yes. I explained to her why we're here. I don't know if officer explained it to you. >> Tell me. >> Yeah, so we're working a fraud. So, we're trying to make sure either prove that a fraud did occur or did not occur, or at least, you know, find the probable cause. >> for what though? >> Uh what she was trying to cash. So, um >> it check? >> Huh? >> A check? >> It >> I don't think it was a check. >> What do you think it was? >> She said it was from her great-grandma or something. >> From her great-grandma? >> Yeah. >> Okay, I got you. >> Her mom gave them all. >> Okay. Did you say where she got it from like specifically? >> No, the original plan was for for me to go get a outfit cuz today is my 30th birthday. >> Happy birthday. >> Thank you. And um we were just dibbling and dabbling and I told her like it's getting late. My mom Let me like to show you. My mom is like um "Are we going to make it out to eat?" I'm like, "I'm about to drop Lana off." I told her, "I don't want to go anywhere. It's raining. My hair is done." She was like, "He picked me up. It's up to you. I thought we could do something like like Today is literally my birthday. I I >> Oh, no, I got you. Well, what we're going to do is try to get through this as quickly as we can just so that way we can get you to have your birthday dinner. So, real quick, um where did you uh and uh Lana meet up at? >> What do you mean? >> Like when you guys first got together today, where was that at? >> Um I was downtown Orlando. We were going to go to this taco spot for taco Tuesday, but then they said that they um they didn't open until 3:00. So, So like, "Okay, let's go." So, then we stopped at um another bank. Then we came here. We went to Wawa. I was going to go into Ross. >> Before you continue, what was the other bank you stopped at? >> I don't know. >> You don't know the name or anything like that? >> It was It was this bank. >> Yeah, another TD Bank? >> Yeah. >> Do you know um do you know what she was going in that one for? >> No, I don't know. >> No, she didn't tell you? >> I'm literally tired. I sat back. I put my feet up and >> I got you. How long was she in that TD Bank for, do you think, approximately? >> I don't know. >> No? >> Honestly, I don't know. I wasn't paying paying attention. >> Yeah. So okay, so after after your uh the visit to the other bank, what happened after that? >> Um hopped on the highway and I was looking to try to find a Burlington Coat Factory, but my GPS is crazy and she's been on the phone with her man the whole ride and we've just been listening to music. >> Mhm. I hate to stop you again. Do you know who her man is? >> No. >> No? You've never met him, don't know his name, nothing? Nicknames, anything? >> Like she just like It's my friend. >> I got you. >> like that is not my business. Like she has headphones on talking to him, so I don't know none of the conversation going on. I was been playing Monica, so I really don't >> Okay, I got you. All right, I'm I'm sorry. >> She's a good girl. She's a sweet girl. >> No, yeah, she's very nice. Yeah. >> right now. >> Yeah, I know I understand that. She's very nice and I'm getting the same vibe. But anyways, I I hate to keep I'm sorry to keep cutting you off. Um so you guys are on the highway trying to find a Burlington Coat Factory. She's talking to her man. And what happens after that? >> I went to the boutique. It's It's not It's not a real boutique. It's just a girl that sells like Am I going to get in trouble for this? >> Is it like counterfeit stuff? >> Like knockoffs. >> It's okay. You won't get in trouble. She will, but we ain't worried about that. >> even have anything in my size, so I was like really just discouraged that I'm not easy to find an outfit because of my size, so I was just like >> before the night is over I want to go get something to eat. >> But there's nothing here. There's a little a little plaza. I went and turned into that plaza. >> Mhm. >> Then it started pouring down rain and I'm like, you know what? Let's just >> I got you. Uh this is not the first case that we've worked this our shift in particular with these pretty much exact same checks. Um It's an ongoing investigation and people just keep coming to the same TD Bank with these same checks and they just keep getting arrested. Okay? I understand. Um there's first time for everything. Okay? So it's time for you to be very honest about where the check came from and who gave it to you, where did you get it, stuff like that. Because you're looking at some pretty serious charges right now. You know that it's not real, right? >> No, I did not know it was >> You didn't know that it was real. Okay, so who gave it to you? Her? That's fine. Yeah. What did she tell you to do with it? She told you to cash it? Okay. How did you guys end up linking up today? Like what was the purpose? Today's her birthday, okay. Okay. I'm going to show my sergeant When we ask her, when we take her and put her in handcuffs right now, what is she going to tell us? Is she going to tell us you knew it was fake? Or she going to tell us She's going to have some reason why her your name is it? >> She was the one that put my name on >> Cuz right now she's saying she has no idea where it came from and that this was all your idea. I'll be honest with you, that's what she's saying. >> That's it's not my idea. I've never done anything like this. I don't I don't do stuff like >> I understand. >> I'm a mom. >> I got you. Mom doesn't mean you can't go to jail. >> I know that, but she was the one that told somebody to do it. >> The valid >> Do you have any evidence of that? >> Like a picture or something like >> Text messages. Anything? Cuz right >> I can't like when she asked for my info like >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah, of course. Is this the old one? >> No, this is a real one. That's somebody's cash. >> Uh-huh. >> Like that's the actual real one. That's the fake one. >> You see like she she sent me this. Like >> When did she send you that? >> Honestly, yesterday she sent me that. >> What is that? What is that asking for? >> That's social security number, name, date of birth. >> Is that So, she was telling you what? That that was your stuff or >> No, like this is an example of like ones that she did. Like this. >> I got you. Do you have any other messages that go along with that? >> So, I'm going to go back inside and someone will be back out here shortly. What's the probable cause? >> A crime We're trying to figure out if a crime was committed or not. >> Okay, but what's the probable cause of me getting pulled over or you guys >> You're not paying me. >> She got We got a call saying that a crime was committed, that she committed a crime. She got out of your car. So, this car is tied to her right now. >> So, how So, you tried this at several other banks today? >> How many like two or three? >> Two or three? And it didn't work those times? >> No. So, if there's no probable cause for me because she did something >> We're trying to like that's why the car was out here asking and I was asking questions too to see how you're involved. >> 5 hours. right. Hang out. Have you seen anything? >> No. I don't know what this is all about though. >> All right. So, uh my sergeant and I want to ask you some uh some follow-up questions. Before we do that though, need you to step out of the car just so we can talk to you cuz moving vehicles and active vehicles are >> 3880. Hold on. >> Yeah, thank you. >> Okay, we're moving the vehicle. Over here in the uh covered section. >> Yeah, we we don't want to mess up your hair. Cuz I know you just got it done. >> You guys need me to go in or >> Nope, we're just getting out of the rain so we can talk to her real quick. Appreciate it. We will eventually, but thank you for letting us know. Thank you. >> Do you have a card? >> Do you have your card? >> Yes, I sure do. >> Oh, you have hers? >> Okay. Um she she read you your rights. >> Yeah. >> Um you understand your right to remain silent, to not talk to us and everything like that. You're not under arrest, but we have to ask you questions, okay? So, obviously, you understand that we are here. We got called here because there was being reported a possible crime being a >> Okay, well, what's the crime? >> The crime is a fraud, okay? Uttering a forged document. Trying to cash a fake check. >> Fraudulent check. >> A check? >> Yes. A fake check. Okay? Or other monetary item. Okay? >> Monetary item. >> So, we come here. >> Mhm. >> They give us some information that there has been a series of events today where people have tried to cash this fraudulent check. It's been unsuccessful. And that she's inside and is the one that's been trying to utter this forged document. That's been trying to cash this fake check. So, she's the focal point of the investigation. At that point, you're just the wreck. Okay? Up until the point where she tells us that you gave her the check. And she shows us text messages and images from an email from a phone number. Uh where these checks were being provided to her, where there was some personal information being exchanged to put on these checks so that they could be cashed. Something along the lines of it's legit, blah blah blah. So >> Me or her boyfriend? >> She is saying that they came from you. >> And her boyfriend. >> Okay. Why would she tell us it was you? >> Maybe because she's >> Five Victor. >> They're all >> Well, it's her boyfriend. >> She's been on the phone literally all day with her boyfriend. >> you. >> So if you look at her call logs she's been on the phone all day with her boyfriend. >> I got you. >> My phone >> I'm just telling I'm just wanted to ask you because that's what she's telling us. She's telling us that she didn't know they were fake, that she cashed them because you told her to. >> So what about her grandma giving them >> Five Victor. Five more federal I'm trying to figure that out myself because apparently I talk a lot. >> No, I think she's trying trying to cover up for her boyfriend. >> Sorry. She she is providing incriminating information about herself, right? >> And implicating you by saying you gave them. No. >> So you did not give her these checks, you don't know anything about these checks? >> Her her I know her boyfriend does that type of stuff, but she told me that that was from her grandma and she was going to come with me for my birthday. >> I got you. Okay. Um All right. >> her boyfriend. >> Mhm. >> And I've never met him. Like I've seen him on FaceTime, but she has earphones in, so that's how she was communicating with him all day. >> Sergeant, what was that email again that she gave you? >> Uh Luhbaby, l u h baby, luhbaby@icloud.com or I'm sorry, gmail. Or no, it was an iCloud. I'm sorry, iCloud. Not gmail. >> so we sent a search warrant to Apple for all the records from that email. >> My My iCloud is my LLC and that's Yummylicious LLC. >> So, there been any messages between you or her and Yummylicious? >> No, but I know her boyfriend and I can't remember what his name is, but she just told me that her son be calling him on the phone. Um I can't remember anything. But, I know her boyfriend and if you guys can find out her boyfriend's name, the last thing she told me about her boyfriend was that he's hot because of all he's bringing in his crib and stuff he perjures and stuff. But, I didn't care to know about that cuz I don't know him. >> Understood. And you don't have any knowledge about any of that going on and IDs being stolen or anything? >> No. >> All right, nothing. >> Yes. >> All right. >> What did they say? What did >> Uh you're still not free to leave. We're still investigating. >> not free to leave? >> One second. One second. One second. >> Can I see your cute >> Yeah, what's up? >> I just don't want to go to jail. >> I understand. >> I cannot go to jail. >> I understand. >> Like seriously, I cannot go to jail. >> I understand. >> My daughter is going to be devastated. >> I understand. Listen, like my sergeant was explaining to you that when I initially >> how this plays out. They're going to come back and they're going to put my hands behind my back and I'm going to go to jail. >> I don't know that. I don't know that for a fact because here's here's >> I >> I want to know >> I know you guys ran my name. I'm on probation. I know you guys know that. >> What are you on probation for? >> Um from 2019, I have 156 days left. >> Okay. >> She told us her email was >> That's what I want to see something. Here, once you're done on the phone. So, she confirmed that her email is you know? >> Mhm. >> That's not It's not enough to put her behind it. We need to see more from this email. >> Okay. >> I cannot go to jail. >> I got you. >> So, I cannot go to jail. >> Right. That's what we're trying to figure out. >> She's a Look, whatever you said about me, that's cool, but she's a good girl, and it's the boyfriend. Like, that that I know for sure. >> Do you have any information about this boyfriend that we'd be able to get? >> know that his It's like Gucci or something, but I don't know no real name. I don't know him. >> I need proof that that came from that email, like a No, not that one. The Yummylicious. Cuz she's denying the Lil Baby. You don't follow him on social media? You've never met him before, nothing like that? Do you know anybody that besides her that's associated with Gucci? Anywhere that could lead us down a breadcrumb trail to who is >> Gucci. >> Gucci's calling you? Okay. What what's Is it from a phone number, or how's he calling you? >> Through Telegram. >> Through Telegram? Okay. >> It says So, Gucci. >> So, Gucci. Got you. Okay. You want to answer and see what he says? >> I'm scared. Did she get to him first? >> I That I don't know. >> That's going to be two against one, but I know that he is >> Uh-huh. >> a provider, and she's probably not going to want I'm no I'm a friend. Feel me? Like >> Uh-huh. >> When it comes to when Like even with my best friends, if I tell them don't date a guy, they're still going to date a guy. >> Uh-huh. You want to follow Gucci's? So, this was today. Okay, today. Happy birthday. >> There's not much like on this Yummylicious one. Like, two users that would work. >> Is her name in Is her name in the Lil Baby chat? Her name right there? >> Like, no. >> Is her name in the Lil Baby chat? >> Where are you from? >> Huh? >> I'm a good I'm a Cancer. Let me just say that. I'm a Cancer. So, I'm a good person. >> Yeah. >> But, I do not want to go to jail. I cannot go back to jail. I got this guy out of jail for a violation of probation. I have 100 and probably 40 something days left. I want this life to be behind me. I just got a new approval for a new apartment. Like I'm really trying to change my life around. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't even go clubbing, nothing. Like today was supposed to be a family filled day. My Fashion Nova order didn't come so I didn't have an outfit. I wanted to look nice. I got my hair done yesterday and now I'm sitting here in the rain. 6:00 in the afternoon. My daughter keeps calling me. She made cake last night. >> Mhm. >> It's like >> I I I understand what you're saying and and >> know this is your job and I know My man he takes law so that's why he's trying to educate me. >> Mhm. >> But I can't do so well. I'm sorry. And I'm so big but I cannot I seriously cannot go to jail. >> I understand and and >> Like like even if a crime is committed I'm not the the blame. I'm not the fault for it. Like >> Okay. >> Her boyfriend I know initiated all of this. >> She said it was all your boyfriend that your boyfriend gave you the checks or whatever. >> No, it wasn't me. He [snorts] has nothing to do with this. Look at her. >> Did you have any contact with him tonight? >> Earlier [snorts] like I called him to check on him and make sure he ate and then I just called him just now to see if he could check on my stuff for me. >> Okay. >> I need to figure out who has the keys to the this one. >> [snorts] >> In one of the videos I showed a tattoo. >> Yeah, she had the thigh tattoo. >> Is she wearing shorts? >> Yes, she is. She just got a thigh tattoo recently she said. >> What does it say? >> Bombs between. >> She just said it says that on her thigh. >> And I let her drive my car. >> Okay. >> That's why my shoes were just on the other car. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> You're going to ask me what that was for, right? >> [laughter] >> Well, which one did the check come from, the sir? That was this one. Okay, I was Okay, that's right. That's right. That's right. What about all those pictures of the erasing the social and all that? Where'd that come from? You know what I'm talking about? Like where you were you had the there was like marked out on the social >> The bank and the people who work there have their rights. You have your rights. >> Lamar because my boyfriend's name middle name is the same as his. It's Lamar. >> It's Lamar? Okay. >> So, I know this has everything to do with him. I'm not saying I'm innocent. >> Mhm. >> But, he is her manipulator because he's her provider. >> Mhm. >> If that makes sense. >> Mhm. >> And she's a sweet girl. She's innocent girl. >> Yeah. No, I got you. >> I do have one question. If I am going to jail, can we wait until my people come? >> Uh that is we can't facilitate that. It just depends on how long we're here for. If they show up when we're here, then they show up. If not, then it is what it is. >> What am I going to do? And what will be the >> I don't I don't know. I don't know at this point cuz >> go to jail. >> I I understand you. >> I help you guys with >> That's that's what we're trying to do, right? So >> Seriously, I don't understand. >> No, I No one No one wants to go to jail and especially not on their birthday. >> disappointed. >> I I I can understand that. And I I'm not going to sit here and make you any promises or guarantees cuz that's not my place and that'd be unethical of me, okay? Cuz I I'm not in this business to make solid promises because with how rapidly things can change it I I would people would paint me as a liar, okay? Um especially if I think one thing and then and then another thing happens cuz information that I don't know about, right? At this point, like I was trying to explain earlier, is it's not that we are just solely gunning for you, right? We initially when we when we talked to you, we were under the impression that you were just a friend driving a friend, right? And that could still be the case. We got this new information that we have to we have to vet. So >> Nothing. I was eating ice cream before this. >> So >> He's thinking it's you, though. >> Huh? >> He's thinking it's you, though. >> What makes you think that? >> Cuz he keeps smiling. >> Who? Officer Kelly? >> Yes. >> He was smiling cuz he saw I cuz I was watching what he was doing with that little bowl and he laughed and he said I was eating ice cream before this. >> Yeah. Because I was looking at him before me. I don't know why he had a bowl with the pink stuff. >> Yes. >> May I go to the bathroom? >> Probably. Just saw some messages from your Yummylicious LLC >> Yes. >> talking about these checks. >> Okay, can we can we >> You giving her instructions on how to cash them. >> Okay, can we tell where the instructions came from? Did she tell you that? >> What do you mean? >> From her boyfriend Gucci that >> Okay. >> If you look up his name Lamar or something, his house just got raided for ID printers and stuff. >> Right. So So I understand what you're saying, but that's still you. >> Did she change the name? >> Of what? >> For the email? >> No. We verified it that those messages came from that email. >> Okay. >> Of you giving her specific instructions on how to cash these checks. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So she didn't even mention her boyfriend at all. >> She said he has nothing to do with this. >> Okay. >> Can I prove it? I don't know. We're still working on it. >> He just He just called me and I just told him that he just called me. >> Her boyfriend? >> Yes. He just called me on Telegram. She's been on the phone with him all >> Do you have any messages for between y'all two that we would let us see? >> I don't have any I don't have any messages. >> Okay. Cuz she just showed us from the email you gave me, the Yummylicious pictures or I'm sorry, instructions from you on how to cash these checks. >> Okay, did you tell you that the check came from her grandma? >> She told me the check came from you. >> No, it didn't. It came from >> That's neither here nor there. >> She said she said it came from her She told me it came from her grandma. Then she said that Gucci her man does all of this. He has ID printers that I'll get some money if I drive her. Then I'm telling her like, "I got to go do stuff on my phone because it's my birthday." I got you. >> So, how about the text messages where she was asking you about it and you sent a bunch of pictures of money uh on your lap and a car that had been paid off, something about a lawyer being paid off. What about those messages? >> I did speak to her about that, but on verbally on >> No, there was a message. I read it. I read them. I read them myself. >> Okay. >> Pictures of money, pictures of cash, checks being cashed at the bank, stuff like that. Do you know anything about that? >> I mean, I have my own LLC. I make money. My man works for Odd Wave. That's how I get my money. My car is not paid off. >> So, what about those messages that were directly followed up with instructions on how to check cash these fraudulent checks? >> Was it Was it from her boyfriend? That's what I'm asking. >> It came from your email, the yummyliciousllc. >> It couldn't have. >> I just looked at it. Or it was I'm sorry, it was a lilbaby@icloud.com. >> She and her boyfriend have a yamma a yamma. >> Okay. He's a yamma. Do you have Is lilbaby@icloud.com you? >> That's not my iCloud. >> So, why did the pictures have your leg tattoo in the background? >> That I don't know. If I can see her phone, I can tell you, but I don't know why that >> So, somebody got a picture of you holding money with your leg tattoo. >> Copy that. >> Her boyfriend and her have been in a chat on Telegram. Like just now when I looked on Telegram, you can erase all the messages. He erased the messages. Then he prompted call me and I just showed Officer Dotson that he was calling my phone. >> Okay. What does that have to do with the pictures of all the money on top of your tattoo on your leg? Cuz you're I'm asking you things and you're just like You're going all the way around. >> Okay, because I know that this initiated from the boyfriend. >> Okay. Are you a part of it? And I don't care who initiated it, but are you a part of it? Did you know that this is taking place? >> know she was going to >> That's what I'm trying to figure out what's going on. Yeah. >> When we left the bank, she was like "I got this." >> She said it wasn't a check or a bond, whatever you call it. >> Well, she had that at the last bank, yes. >> Okay. Prior to that, did you know? >> No. >> I do not believe you. I saw text messages and I do I think you are lying. >> know. The suspicious person is her. >> I think you're lying. Okay, straight up. >> know. I don't know. I don't know. >> Most likely. >> What is it going to take for me not to go to jail? Tell us the truth. >> And I'm talking about the truth that we can prove. Not your truth that whatever. The truth that we >> still going to end up going to jail. >> I don't know. It depends. I don't You're not giving me anything as far as your knowledge on this. I don't know what your knowledge on this is. And that's what I'm trying to piece together. >> We both spoke to her boyfriend, Gucci. >> Okay. >> Maybe 2 or 3 days ago >> Okay. >> and he said "Do I have a car?" >> Okay. >> And I was like, "Yeah." >> Okay. >> And he said that I can make some money. >> He said you can make some money or you both. >> He told me. >> Okay. He said you can make some money. >> His name is Gucci. >> Okay. >> Just remember his first name is Lamar. >> Okay. So, what When he said you can make some money, how did he say you were going to make this money? >> Um they were on FaceTime. I was on FaceTime. I was making making dinner and he was like, "Am I going to be free yesterday?" And I was like, "No, I have to get my hair done." >> Okay. >> Then he asked me, "What about today?" So, she asked me "Can I bring her around cuz she didn't have a car?" >> Right. >> And I'm like, "Yeah, I got you." >> All right. And then what else? >> That's it. >> It's not what the text message just said. You're still not telling me the truth. And I'm don't want to stand here in the rain and get lied to. So, you you can just go to jail. >> Oh, I don't >> So, tell me the truth. I'm tired of getting rained on. I know you're tired of getting rained on. Tell me the truth. >> was supposed to make money with her boyfriend. >> With her boyfriend? >> Yeah. >> How? With checks? >> No, he said to be her driver. And then he said something about to go to her house and get something and what's her grandma's name and stuff like that and we were all in a group chat. >> Okay. >> Bobby. >> So there's messages at her specifically asking you what your percentage cut would be. >> And he's not in the group chat? >> No. >> So the the message you have >> Okay. They're explaining how there's text messages of her specifically asking you what is your percentage. >> But is there no messages between the boyfriend too because we were all chatting together? >> No. They all just came from your email. So let So let me >> That's kind of weird. >> answer my question though. Why would there be a message from her asking you specifically what is your percentage? >> I don't know. >> Well, you answered it. You're like, we split it evenly. >> No, this is That's not messages. I'm telling you that they were everybody him >> There's messages from you. >> Listen, officer. >> We confirmed it. >> Okay, but we were all in a group chat. >> Okay. >> But he didn't say anything about fraud. He said that they were given from somebody's grandma. >> Okay. >> Didn't say anything about fraud until earlier she kept saying he's a Yamma. >> What is that? >> A Yamma? That's They're from like North Miami Beach or Broward or something in the gang. No, a Yamma. A Yamma. >> I don't know I'm sorry, I don't know. Okay. >> A Yamma is >> Oh, okay. Okay. I don't I don't know. I'm I'm a redneck. I don't speak that language. You know what I'm saying? >> Don't say that. Don't say that. >> So >> Officer, I do not want to go to jail. >> I understand that. >> If you I don't know the boyfriend's last name, but I'm pretty sure if you can look his name up or something, she said he just got out of jail like 2 weeks ago and the police raided his house and took Louis Vuitton sneakers and ID >> Where was that Orlando? From Miami. >> I don't know. >> Okay. I was just curious. >> He said it was on the news. Can I Google it? >> Yeah, go ahead. Did you or did you not know about these checks? >> From the last spot that we went to, I know about it. I don't want to go to jail. >> I understand. Nobody wants to go You go But >> I don't want to go to jail. >> You don't have none of the messages on your actual phone? >> On tele- We were talking on Telegram. On Telegram you can delete messages. He deleted the messages when I opened it, that's when he started calling me. Just now when I told you. >> Okay. >> So >> It deletes from both ends? >> Yeah. He knows He know- I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing. She said he's like 32 and he hid like a hundred thousand dollars in PP uh forgiveness loan. This is what she told me. >> She said that? >> No. >> What's uh what's your username on Telegram? >> My Telegram >> Or is the profile picture her? >> Uh-uh, no. >> That's not it. Can you go back to it? >> It's uh Yeah. >> Well, that's not a body cam, but Uh-huh. Yeah. Do you got to have the phone right now? >> If she deletes it, it goes off of your phone, too? >> I have the Faraday bag. She probably deleted everything. Can't get rid of our messages. I know that for a fact. >> All right. >> This is ours. Yeah, that's ours. You're going to jail. You're deleting things. >> No, I'm not deleting anything. >> You're going >> I just saw everything I needed to see. >> But I didn't delete anything. I was sitting here Googling the boy's name. >> I understand. We'll look at that and we're going to try to figure that out, but I saw everything I needed to see on Telegram. She deleted it. >> As we were reading the group chat, everything wiped off. >> Did you not see when he was calling me on Insta on Telegram? >> I saw it, but based on the information we're seeing, it didn't happen. Did you want to tell the truth? >> So, I don't >> I have no sympathy for you. >> Did you get somebody to pick up your kid? Okay. >> I saw everything I needed to see on Telegram. So and then it miraculously disappeared and you have your phone in your hand. >> I was Googling I just accidentally I Google I I'm honest to you. He He can do that. We're all the boy Gucci we're all in a group chat. >> Okay. Well, however they disappeared, we saw what we needed to see. It's been captured on our body cameras of you sending these messages, getting her personal information to put on these checks that you knew were fraudulent. She knew they were fraudulent and you're both going to jail. That's it. That's plain and simple. >> Okay, what is the charge? >> Uh uttering a forged document. >> And is there a bond for that? >> 2,500 3,500 so 2500 you get out. What's your criminal history like? Can we ask you that? >> I'm on probation. >> Oh, nope. No bond. We're going to You're done then. All right. >> Can I Can I speak to you or can I Can I Can you help me out? >> that chance and you lied. >> Is there anything that because I cannot go to jail my daughter is going to be so disappointed. >> I'm disappointed. Society is disappointed. You committed a felony and you lied about it. And I gave you every opportunity to tell me the truth and you still lied. I gave you a chance to be a bigger person. >> way that you can find the boyfriend's information? >> We'll work on that. That's part That's part of the investigation. His guilt doesn't mean you're innocent. Right? Just cuz he's guilty doesn't mean you're not you're innocent. Huh? I'm going to just take off her jewelry and stuff and just throw it in the bag. >> I'm not the brain of the operation. It was everybody that put it together. So Okay, I'm not innocent. >> Okay. So you knew more than you said you did. That's her second phone? Oh. >> [snorts] >> Bye-bye both of them. >> I can give you valuable information that is bigger than me standing right here in cuffs in that one little flimsy thing. I'm telling you. Please. >> All right, guys. They might need take that. >> You could tell me who killed John F. Kennedy. And I can't release you. You're on probation. You're on probation. I'm sorry. You are on probation. >> It can't just be police contact and I can help you like maybe a million dollar operation. >> Well, while I would appreciate that, my policies about people on probation are what they are, okay? >> Please don't tow my car because that's the only way my daughter can get back and forth to work. >> Okay. All right, y'all two going to be cordial cuz y'all are going in the same car. >> She's blaming me. >> All right. Well, I have Gilbert transport her. Then I'll just tell Sergeant Cody that we don't need the PT van if if you say no, then they got to go together. >> Yeah. >> As long as there's no As long as they're not fighting in the back. >> That's why I asked. >> All right. Um go ahead and take her to your car then. Is somebody with her? Um Gilbert, go ahead and uh put her in your car and just transport her back to the PD and tell them take care of the rest. >> Do you have your Do you have property? >> My car? >> You got property? >> My car? >> Well, the car is going to stay here. >> No, the car is getting towed. >> Oh, you're going to tow I was going to tell >> Hey, this one's going in there. >> Oh no, that's my husband's wallet. Please, please, please, please, please. That's my husband's wallet. Please. >> Well, we're going to get a search warrant anyway if it's in there. >> That's his wallet and he has work. Please. >> All right, come on. So, you're not out here seeing this. All right, you good? >> Yeah. >> All right, I'll roll down the window when we get I know it's raining. >> Okay. >> No problem. >> So, listen. If I give you guys information on where they originated from, can I not go to jail and you guys can do your job but I mean your fraudulent stuff? >> I can promise you this right now, you're going to jail. >> Yeah, can I search her and that car real quick? >> There is a whole bunch of fraudulent checks that have come to this bank very recently. And they all look a lot like the ones that she had. >> Okay. Hey. Mr. Johnson, talk to Mr. Johnson. If I can help you guys, is there any leniency for me? >> For that that'll be up to the state attorney. >> Yeah, that's not our choice. >> If the the state attorney can most definitely uh uh cut something with you if you if you provide more information to the the the higher rank. >> Okay, did she ever mention her boyfriend to you? >> Uh-uh. >> No. I can't make her. >> She gave us information about you. You gave us information about her. She admitted to her wrongdoing. You admitted to your wrongdoing. You guys are both going to jail. That does not mean that her boyfriend will not at a later date based on the information we have. And this investigation is going to continue. As of today, the only people we have probable cause to charge is you and her. Appreciate it. Appreciate you being honest with us. You see what honesty gets you? >> Yeah. >> Now, both of y'all go for it. And you were didn't even operate the whole thing. >> Okay, you can step step out real quick. >> Me? >> Yeah. >> She's got to search you. >> I'm going to search you real quick. >> Do you have anything on you? Knives, guns, nuclear weapons? I got to ask. >> Turn around for me. >> So all car is going to get >> impounded as staged evidence. >> Your car, so you're right now your car is getting towed because we're going to completely search warrant on it and search the contents of it. >> As long as it's no longer evidence