I see bunk beds, sir. Where are the kids? >> On May 29th, 2024, police are called to a Castleberry, Florida home. They find a hysterical 38-year-old Frell Torres. He admits officers that he has stabbed his partner, Vanessa Santiago, to death. the mail apartment. >> Yeah, I got it. I'll >> hold you guys. >> Yeah. Here. Here. Just chill here for a second. Just cuz I don't want to do anything stupid. >> Stay like that, right? Don't Don't do anything stupid. Okay. No, I'm not. I'm not. >> I hear you. All right, brother. You're good to go. >> Is it just her in the apartment? >> Yes, sir. [laughter] >> You stay here. [laughter] Go with them inside. >> Cast 36 got one detained. >> You want to chill with them for a second or go inside? >> Right, brother? I'm going to search you. Okay. Or pat you down. [laughter] >> Any any knowledge or stuff on you? >> Okay. You get why I have to ask, right? [laughter] Hey, what time did this all happen? Just now. [laughter] >> What time? >> Hey. Hey. It's It's good. All right. Hey, roll over. Roll over. Roll over. [clears throat] >> It's not good. >> You know what I mean? [laughter] >> Hey, Stanley. >> Can you stay with him for a sec, please? All right. Thanks. I see bunk beds or where are the kids >> in school? Okay. >> 1993. Hold on. >> Yeah, it's bad. >> Yeah. >> Hey, we appreciate you. All right. Uh, >> we had a knifing. >> Is the other person inside? >> She is, but signal 7. So that's why I said just one of y'all. It's >> Hey, >> before they go. Oh, >> one one right now. One's just fine. You guys don't really need to go in so we have less people assigned. Are you hurt in any way physically? No, you don't need them to look at you. >> Hey, hey, I I know. I just have to ask you these questions. Okay. >> You have ID in your with you anywhere? >> No. >> Do you know where hers might be at? In >> there. On my phone. On >> your phone. Okay. Is it cool if I grab it? You're feral taurus. CP 306. >> Appreciate it. Y'all take care. >> 304. He's putting up tape somewhere. I go inside look for IDs for her or something like that. >> All right. 26. Thank you. 76 back to east. All right. Come on. Get up. Let's go. Yep. You're going to stand right here. Face the car, please. >> Okay. Separate your feet. Okay. >> And this is your car, Ferrari? >> Yeah. >> All right. Here. Just sit down. [laughter] Breathe. Okay. I know it's a lot, but >> it's [laughter] you got to work with me. Okay. >> Get your feet. [laughter] >> Okay. AirPod out of his ear. [laughter] You good? Yeah. >> That was brutal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I wouldn't Yeah, >> that's brutal. >> Pretty bad one I've seen so far. >> Thank god you're right there. You made a lot. >> Sorry. >> Um, >> made a lot easier for us to get this over with. >> Supposedly, there's bunk beds in there. And he said kids are in school, but I don't know. >> Sir, that's a what? the bunk beds are in there and he said the kids are in school, but I don't know what's school is still >> going. >> Well, he's uh we're a little too emotional to talk to right now. So, I'm going to have some time to shell out a bit >> and then uh go from there. >> Yeah, I got it. >> You mind holding on to this for a second? Yep. >> I'm going to look for IDs for the female. Okay. Hi. >> Hey. Good morning. Uh, but we it does look like we have a homicide out here and four versus girlfriend. Uh, the boyfriend called and said that he stabbed his girlfriend. He's he's emotional. We put him in a police car uh with a dash cam for recording and um Okay. >> FD just cleared with no code, no vitals. >> And we're securing the scene now with crime scene tape. Started a crime scene log. >> They say it's bad in there. >> Why is it? >> And he said he stabbed her right. The knife's still in her head. >> That's in her head. >> Okay. Um, >> do you know did you see like the knife around her? >> It's in her head. >> Oh, it's in her head. >> It's still in her head. That's what he said. I didn't know. I'm not going in. >> Yeah. >> Let me get on this side. >> Do you want to go talk to the family members? >> Yeah, I will. >> See if they can give us any information. >> Everybody, we took photos already. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's already done. >> Where's it at? Oh, really? >> In the bedroom. >> Bedroom. >> You really want to? >> You don't have to go in there. You don't have to, but if you want to. It's kind of gnarly. >> It is >> kind of >> down there. >> Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't. >> I mean it, >> man. >> Um. All right. >> This is them. >> Sister, mother. of the suspect. >> Yeah. She just said that he went to their house and they told him to go back and turn himself in and he's been calling her. So, this didn't just happen. >> Yeah. >> So, she >> He was a little hysterical to talk to and I asked him and he's like I freaked out. I was like, "Okay." But >> yeah, they're right here. >> All right. >> All right, buddy. Be safe. >> I will. I appreciate y'all's help. >> It was Well, man Rodriguez CPD. >> Yeah. >> I I know you guys know what happened here as of now. Uh, if you wouldn't mind telling me what >> what happened. >> So, this is all we know. I stand over here. >> Want to sit down? No, I s um he came right here to the house. He was just freaking out and I was like, "What's going on?" And he's like, I was like, "You hear someone?" And he was like, "Yeah." And I keep telling him like, "F, you have to turn yourself in. You have to turn yourself in. You have to turn yourself in." He wanted to go see his son. And I'm like, "F please just turn yourself in." So then I guess he tried to go see his son, but >> What time was all this? >> I was I know. I looked and it was maybe like 8:30. >> I don't know what time is it now. >> I don't either. >> So an hour ago. >> Okay. So he went to go see his son, tried to, they didn't let him cuz she also told him, "You need to go and turn yourself in. You cannot just keep doing this." So then he finally called me back and I was like, "Fine, please turn yourself in." So then here we are. >> So what did he tell you specifically? I didn't even I honestly didn't even want to know how or what happened. He just said he blacked out and I don't want to know. I don't even want to know what happened. >> I >> I don't want to know. >> No, no, no. I'm not going to say it. Just But did he say like what happened to her or her condition? >> He just said he just said he blacked out. >> He blacked out. Something happened. >> Yeah, I guess. I don't know. >> Okay. >> I don't want to know. And you just came from the same and then [clears throat] okay. We appreciate it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, it's not too much to go with, but um it's something. You have an ID on you or anything? >> No. You guys aren't like anything like that. It's just >> No, I know. >> The situation is I'm going just leave it as it is. >> Whatever you need to get. I don't I >> give you whatever you need. Um, >> your nieces and nephew are going to need you too a lot. >> Or what? >> I know. I know. I know. >> I'm I'm so sorry. >> I know. >> I don't even want to know what they're doing. >> I'm not going to say anything. No, I'm just going to leave that. >> Do they have a history of violence against each other? >> They do. Like how often would he come and complain or vice versa? >> I've had to [ __ ] call the cops a few times myself. >> I've came to pick her up since I get him away. >> I came to get my >> You can for me. Can you write? Do you know her whole name and her birthday? >> No. >> I'd ask him, but he's a little hysterical right now. >> And I haven't even spoken to her in a while. You have her phone number or anything like that? I just got to put all her information on that list. I'll hold on to that for a second while you look. You live here? >> Here? Yeah. >> In Orlando. >> You do? Okay. No, I was going to say cuz if you lived here, you >> No, I don't live. >> It's just a thing. Just update your address cuz someone pulls you over. They're going to give you some crap. That That was it. But never mind. >> Okay. If you don't mind waiting here a second, I'm going to go talk to them. I don't even think I need a statement from you too much. But would you mind writing a statement for me real quick? >> I know it's not much, but it's just one and done. >> Whatever your name, >> I appreciate you, >> Sarge. He never really confessed anything to him. He says, "I blacked out. Something happened." He wouldn't give them specific information. She's just going to write a statement anyways cuz he's saying how he's sorry or what not, too. >> Who's that? >> Um, that's the sister and his mother. >> Okay. So, they already knew before >> they didn't know what exactly happened. and they just knew something happened cuz he can he's like, "Oh, I'm sorry. You know, this like I I blacked out." But he wouldn't give specifics apparently. Okay. >> But I'm going to write a statement anyways. And then I'm just going to get information on the children cuz I'm sure we're going to have to send this to CPS, too. >> Yeah, we do. And a DV packet we have to complete. >> Do we know if he lives here? >> Um, >> if he does? >> No, I don't. I don't. I think he does, actually, cuz their kids are here, too. It's just uh he's a little hysterical, >> right? So, I can get too much information out here as of now. >> And then um so she's on the floor on to the right of the bed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Facing the bed to the right at the window. I have the pictures here, but I don't really know if you want to see him. >> I'll have to ask you. >> It's not us. >> No, it's just a crime scene asking. >> Okay. So Erin's going to come out here and talk to him or is it cool if I talk to him? Or you want the trainee to do it? >> To talk to who? >> The guy that stabbed his girlfriend. >> No, the trainee is not the interview. >> No, I I figured so I can take charge of this real quick until Aaron gets here. >> If you want before C gets here. >> Yeah, that was that was the plan. I just didn't know cuz you know trainee usually take stuff. But My bad. >> And then And then the weapon. They know where the weapon is. >> It's in her head. >> Really? >> Yeah. It's still there. >> Is that Captain? >> Here. You want to bring him over here? I say if you just want like I was going to give you my phone. You can just show it to him. >> No, it's all right. >> Okay. >> All right. Sorry. Just >> bureaucracy stuff. Okay. If you can, [snorts] >> can you just fill all these boxes to the best of your ability and then just write what happened like literally the time you told me and so on. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And afterwards, I have to ask information about the children because we're going to have to do report to CPS. >> So, hey, it doesn't mean they're getting taken away or anything like that. That's not what that means, okay? It's just given situations like this, they have to be informed due to >> Yeah. >> the intensity of the circumstances. Okay. >> Again, thank you. I I know this is difficult. It's not even the proper word to be honest. Anyways, Far if you want to go um to the sister over there. She's writing a statement for me. >> Uh you don't have >> I just want to wait. >> Okay. >> I'm going to talk to him. >> We read a Miranda. >> No, I'm I'm going to do all that right now. >> Did you ask him what he was saying? >> I just said, "Hey, like when did this all started?" He's like he said he just he didn't give me much information. So right now I got to read from Miranda and go from there. Okay. I just need someone to check that statement. >> Wait for uh you go check the state. Wait for detective to question him. >> Yeah. They said I'm going to talk to him. I'll ask uh Sergeant again. But should be good. >> I got to get a crime scene. >> Yeah. >> You're good. Morning. Captain. >> Has he calmed down at all? Is it still Yeah, he's still crying. >> I was going to try to talk to him. He just want me to hold off till car gets here cuz Yeah, we got technically a confession over like um dispatch, but I still want to see what's up. Get more information at least about her too cuz everyone just knows her first name. They don't know her last name. >> What's waiting on? >> Okay. >> I was able to have a I was able to find ID. >> Okay. So, you got her information, too. It should be on the screen as well. >> We would be able to see if we saw her face, but she lives here. >> That's likely her. >> Do we know if she lives here? >> I still haven't talked to him yet about that. So, I'll just wait till car I'll go finish up that statement with the >> like informant not really here also. >> So, all right. I'll see you guys in a minute. >> You good, brother? >> No, nothing. Got business over here. And thank you for having me riding. >> Sorry. >> So, thank you for having me writing. >> Yeah, I'm trying. >> No, trust me, it goes a long way. Do you guys need any access to any counselors or anything like that? That's tough to ask. >> Yeah. >> You think you'd need one? I think I'm just going to get me and my mom like separate. >> Okay. If you if you got your own or something, that's fine. I'm just >> No. Yeah, I know. >> I'm It's not easy to go about these sort of things. I'm just We're just here to help you guys. Okay. >> Even though it might not always feel like it. >> No, I know. And I appreciate you so much. >> No problem. Just take your time. >> You say you've been here before? >> Yes. >> You know how she looks like specifically? I I won't um >> from an ID. Can you pull it up so I can ask these two how she looks if that's her? >> Cuz they'll be able to confirm it for me so we can like pass that step. Thank you. >> I just need um a picture of her DL. >> Okay. I'm only asking you cuz you've been out here before. >> And then if you know her face, then I can go show it to everybody. Hey, is this her? like we'll have to like confirm it but at least it's you know something cuz he's a little hysterical and I don't want to talk to him right now I'm without car so thank you >> actually here just my phone that was her no that's not her that's her is right there writing me a >> report >> that's her you might sorry 51. >> You can do a better picture than me. You are the cameraman. Of course. >> I need to ask this. And when you do that, just initial next to it. Say, "Oh, ask him." Like, "Okay." Hey, we're 104 ID. If you want to relay that to them, please. Yeah, that's her. We still have to look at her a bit more. But I mean, at least we That's her. >> No, they they do. I'm getting that information from her right now. Okay, that's it. >> Yeah. I didn't even sign it. >> No, you're I just want to frame me to it first. Sorry. I hope it makes sense. >> No, it it it makes the best sense it can. Uh the only thing I'm going to ask you is just finish up the address. Home email just means personal and all this other stuff up here, please. And then you're just going to be your brother's emergency contact. Are you fine with that? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Then I threw it down here. I'm just not asking information about the uh children. It's both their kids. >> One of them is not and then one of them is for both. >> Okay. >> Okay. You just want to confirm what you hear is true. Correct. >> Yes. >> Awesome. Initial and put yes. Sign right here. Thank you. So, we're going to trade real quick. So, right now I'm asking to you dudes, you know the kids first and last names? >> I don't know. >> Do you know their birthdays, too? >> Um, I'm not good with birthdays. No, I don't either. >> Just write their names if you know them. That's the best we can do right now. Obviously, the one that's his son has his last name. So, >> yeah. >> You know what school they go to? >> Uh, he was supposed to send it to me. I don't know. >> You don't know? I've never picked them up. >> It's okay. Well, then we'll we'll do our best to figure that one out. >> He should know. >> Yeah, we're just waiting for him to calm down or at least have the detective here so I can we can talk to him. Anyways, I appreciate all the help. Uh you two take care and we we might be in contact in reference to the children or CPS might be, okay? cuz I think it's best they stay with family and not toters. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Her mom lives here. >> Her mom? Yeah, her mom usually is >> Where's her mother at? >> She lives close by. >> Do you know where or just >> I don't know the address, but I know where she lives. >> Um >> if you pulled up a map, can you show me where she's at? >> Has anything else? Well, not right now because I'm kind of stuck onto the scene, but one of us can head out there and talk to her and get more information. And when we're done here, you you guys are free to leave. Well, you're not detained anyways by being like, >> but everything you're doing does help us. I know it's one of these roads. >> It's It's okay if you don't know. All right. If you find it out, just give us a call. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> You guys take care and good luck with everything. Okay. Just call that and we'll try to help you guys out. Okay. But if anything, you should get a call from CPS um probably sometime today. Okay. >> Okay. You guys, you guys take care. For your guys's uh wellbeing, I recommend you just go home, >> okay? >> And is this your car? Just fix it. I don't want them towing you or something. You don't need any more problems today. >> Okay. >> All right. Take care. >> Yeah. >> You're the first one from here to make contact. The deputy made contact first. >> Yes. >> Where did you make first contact with this guy? This guy was >> I found him right here. Deputy >> Hold on. Did you both arrive at the same time? You and the deputy? >> The deputy came first. >> By how many minutes? >> Uh, probably 20 to 30 seconds. >> Okay. All right. So, you both made contact. He was outside. >> Yeah. Over the dispatch, you said, "Can you tell him to come outside?" >> Yeah. So, the guy comes out with the deputies out here. Guy's at gunpoint, gets on the ground, hands behind his back. I run up with gloves on, handcuff them real quick. Guy has blood on his hands, by the way. >> Anywhere else? >> Uh, I just hands I remember the hands right now. Things happen a little fast. Okay. >> And then after he was secured, um, Saki and Cusk went inside. >> Uh, Stanley stood off for a minute. I went in too and then >> your body camera was on. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And then you you should see him on Well, you went inside. So, she is now is how we found her. >> Okay. Uh, I'm focusing on him. >> Okay. So you cuff him. What was said by you, by him? What was what was said? What happened? >> He was hysterical. That's why her name. I asked him, "When did this happen?" And he was like, I couldn't understand anything he was saying at that point. >> Spanish? >> No, no, no. He just was hysterical. >> Okay. Crying. Hysterical. >> Okay. What else did he say? >> I believe he said he's sorry. He's sorry. What else? >> Usually I'm I'm more cognizant of that, but like that's that's all I remember. It happened pretty >> When you cuffed him, put him in the car. Who searched him? >> I I patted him down. I didn't find anything on him. That was >> When you put him in the car, did he did somebody stay with him? >> No, he just been in the car like this. Someone's still around him, but he was door closed, everything. >> Okay. Nobody went and made contact again. >> Ferrari did. He said, "The guy's still crying." >> Okay. >> I went out and started getting paperwork done, too. I got a statement from the sister actually. >> Anyone do any canvasing. >> Um >> I for any other surveillance or something. >> Um any >> No, I don't think anyone's done that yet. >> Okay. >> I just uh if you want to read this real quick, too. >> No, not right now. >> Okay. All right. >> I want to find out what he said because we're about to do a preliminary interview. >> Just sorry. I'm sorry is >> all I got. Additionally, that he did talk to the not like here, but he talked to the sister and the mom. He wouldn't give details. >> Yeah, this was around 8:30. So, he took a while to call. That's why they got here. Called to the touch and everything. So, he went to them. He's like hysterical crying. What's going on? Like, is something wrong? She dead. He's like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wouldn't give any details that he's sorry. Like, if something happened, you need to call the police. So, they didn't get any details. Just he's hysterical saying he's sorry. >> Okay. So, I I documented that on here. I only got the kids' first names and the one that's his same last name as him obviously, but they don't know what school they go to. >> I think I have that from the analyst. Don't worry about that. >> Okay, perfect. >> Okay, >> that's where I am right now. Victoria. Yeah, I personally ran out. That's why I didn't give you one earlier, too. >> Um, >> here's the business card. You just call it on emergency line or anything. >> Okay. Um, I'm just really worried about the kids >> right now. >> Like I know they're in daycare right now or >> we we'll get to that eventually at this point, but uh right now we got to like kind of focus on here. >> We got the children's information apparently. That's what the the guy that told you. Wait a second. Yeah, he he got the information for me. So like right now, just stand by. Let us do what we need to do. Okay. >> If we need anything, we'll give you a call. Well, like I said, you almost like to get a call from excuse me from CPS. Okay. >> Okay. And did you guys get a hold of her mom? >> We're working on that right now. So, right now I'm trying to do computer work with it, too. We got past reports and stuff out here as well. So, hopefully the officer out here has some other emergency contact. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, >> all right. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Um, what do we know so far? Um, I mean, all I know is that there's kids, but uh they're at school. I don't know which school yet. >> Does he live here? >> I don't know. >> Rodriguez was the one talking to him. He was really emotional, so they put him in the car. >> Excuse me. Must have happened. >> It must ago the weather's dry on the floor. >> The blood's dry and she's cold. >> On the bed on the floor. >> She's on the floor to the right of the bed as you're walking. >> So, just make sure nobody else goes in until we have a warrant that C is working on. >> Okay. Rodriguez took photos. >> Mhm. >> Of the scene. >> Was he able to get the information from the camera? >> There's nothing on the back of it. There's no serial number. >> I don't know if you got that, >> but And it's like attached to the so you can't even lift it up. He never confess anything to him. He says, "I blocked out. Something happened." He wouldn't give them the specific information. She's just going to write a statement anyway with saying how he's sorry and whatnot, too. >> Who's that? >> Um, that's the sister and his mother. Okay. So, they already knew before they didn't know what exactly happened. They just knew something happened cuz he can like, "Oh, I'm sorry. You know, this I I blacked out." But he wouldn't give specifics apparently. >> Okay. But I'm going get a write a statement anyways. And then I'm just going to get information on the children cuz I'm sure we're going to have to >> a DB packet we have to complete. >> Do we know if he lives here? >> If he does. >> No, I don't I don't I think he does actually cuz their kids are here too. It's just that he's a little hysterical, >> right? >> So I couldn't get too much information out as of now. >> I know. And then um so she's on the floor to the right of the bed. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So facing the bed to the right at the window. Okay. Yeah, I have the pictures here, but I don't really know if you want to see them. >> Hey, >> no, it was just a crime scene asking. >> Okay. >> Hello, >> sir. Me on where you're at. >> So, boyfriend called, said that he stabbed his girlfriend. Seminal County was the first on scene. They made they made entry. He I guess he walked outside and um that was the same time Rodriguez showed up. He was immediately secured because we don't know where the knife is, which is actually in her head. And um it didn't just happen. This there's dried up blood and she's cold. So a few hours ago um crime scene is they're waving on a search warrant cuz Aaron from Called Kathy. >> Is that something we can do for you, sir? >> Yes. Are you Sergeant Salatron? >> No, he is. >> May I speak to you right now? >> After I'm [music] done speaking with Captain >> Ver. [bell] >> No, that's a time. >> I mean this guy that's >> Oh, just real quick. >> Yes, sir. Start to sell. My name is Patrick Dowling. >> Hi, Patrick. >> That big white bus right there belongs to me. >> I am on my way to my computer store and I need to drive off in it now. >> So, the expedition. >> That's correct. >> Okay. Let me see about moving the crime scene tape and um just give us a few minutes. Okay, >> that's great. >> All right. Is that okay? >> Is that your boss? >> It is. Captain. >> So, we need to >> I think I got it. I do. >> Okay. This guy's trying to come out. Um, this guy from the expedition. So, we just got to move up a little bit. >> My crime tape's attached to mine, right? >> And his, by the way, I know. >> I'm just letting you know. Uh, you could just you could pull back once I get them out of here. >> Oh, it's to hold it up. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> We could just go over, captain. Let's go around. >> We could go to his car. His police car. >> We don't know. >> That would be big. >> Okay. >> For Torres. And uh just to update you, the knife is actually in her head and it it happened a few hours ago cuz there's dried up blood and she's cold. >> All right, thanks. Bye. You guys have a good day and I hope you catch the bad guy. >> Thank you, Patrick. You're welcome. Uh, no. >> All right, we'll just tie it up to his car. >> You want to have him back up >> or him move forward? >> Sorry. So, >> there is a camera right at the door and I So, usually we'll try to get a picture. Yeah, there you go. So, we'll try to get a picture of some code on the back of the the camera. We couldn't find a code. So with that code, it helps with a search warrant for like the cloud to try to recover any videos from the cloud, but we couldn't recover anything. It is like secure on the on the bench and there is power to it. So >> I think once fields gets here, I think we could mess around with it a little further. But um this it's the back bedroom is where the deceased is. >> Where's the guy at right now? >> He is in this vehicle cuz this is the only vehicle. Yeah, he's that's the only vehicle with a dash cam cuz when we got here >> or after he was secured he was just well before he was secured he was just very emotional. He was hysterical so he was down >> and um has he calmed down >> has he calmed down at all or >> is he still crying? Yeah, >> he's still crying. >> I was going to try to talk to him just hold off till car gets here. cuz yeah, we got technically a confession over like um dispatch, but I still want to see what's up. Get more information at least about her too cuz everyone just knows her first name. They don't know her last name. >> Let's wait on researching. >> Okay. >> They have a plan. I was able to find >> Okay, so you got her information. >> It should be on the screen as well. >> We'll be able to see another call about that. And do we know if she works here? >> Also, >> all right, >> I'll see you guys in a minute. >> Johan said he had a prior report here >> uh with a female reporting her ex-boyfriend trespassing >> for the crime scene. >> Did I go into the crime scene? >> No, not really. >> You did? Okay. Did I go into the tape? >> Yes. I'm the designer. >> Yes. >> Um, but he never saw the mail, so he doesn't know if that's the same guy or not. >> CPD. >> CPD. CPD. >> Yeah. Allies. >> I don't know exactly. Okay. 9:30. Got you. >> Yeah, Aaron's typing the warrant. >> Cool. >> Yeah. >> Did you confirm with Rodriguez who's primary? Is it? >> Yeah, I think we're going to take it. Okay, >> mag on that car. See if anything comes back to it. I can run it. >> So I there's a piece already for this one. I don't know >> confirmed. >> Yeah, he's got it. I I have to look see, but >> like a trespass warning. >> It was a trespass in damage property. >> March. >> She didn't want the phone. >> The phone. Yeah. That he took off. >> He took her phone. >> Okay. What do you think? >> And then uh after that cuz she went through the window but she didn't want to uh purchase. >> Well um but I have ID >> here. Just get closer. >> Just get closer to him. >> School is what Rodriguez said or daycare today. Probably >> dayare. I don't know if the Orange County schools are or something. >> They're out. Same same schedule as 71. >> Did you make any spontaneous utterances of what what the flight was about in the beginning? >> No, he was just crying. The tag was back. It's a a rented vehicle heard us. >> An officer pulls up body cam of the last incident between Farel and Vanessa. and he came in through my window. I didn't know my window was unlocked and he took my phone from me and he took off and he almost broke his to the point where it's like loose. >> Okay. So he just Do you know how he got like um were you here when you got in? >> Yeah, I was here at night but you need to university. Okay. Um, do you have uh >> have you tried calling that phone with the You can't call your phone with the Apple Watch, right? >> No, I I his phone and he I said, "I'm going to call the cops and he's like, "Oh, no, it's whatever." And he hung up. >> Okay. >> He has my phone. I can show you the location. He has my phone. >> Okay. Um, you don't want any press charges or anything? >> No, I just want my phone back. That's my phone back and I want to get um a restraining order. >> Yeah, you can do that. You can go to the um the civil courthouse and get a restraining order on that. >> Okay, that's probably for the best, especially if he's doing something like that and he has never lived together. Okay. >> Um and you guys are not trying to get back together or anything like that. >> Okay. All right. Um, what's his name? >> I just want my best one. >> Yeah. >> So, you came through this window. >> Uhhuh. >> Who Whose room is this? >> This is the kitchen. >> That's the kitchen. Okay. So, you came through the window through the kitchen. >> You didn't call the cops or anything like that? >> No. >> Why was it? >> Well, because I wasn't fine. I told him, "Please, can you please leave?" And he didn't want to. So I said, "Fine, you can stay the night. Just leave me alone." He didn't want to leave me alone. So I said, "All right, so you got to leave." He took my phone and he left. >> At first he was like, "No." And then he was like, "Fine, I'll leave." But then when he was leaving, he was like, "Oh, your phone's on your bed. It's not on my bed." He took that took it with you. >> I don't have it. I pressed it to search it and it's not here. He has it. >> You have the location where you can find it. The phone that he has? Yeah, it's mine. I paid though. >> You paid it though? >> Yeah, that's my phone. >> Okay. Um, he came yesterday through the window. He didn't leave, but you said if you wanted him to stay, he could stay and he stayed over the night. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And after he stayed with in the morning, except when he >> decided he wanted to leave, so I said, "That's fine." And he took my phone and he said it was here in the bed, but it's not there. >> Okay. and you can go with the civil court, do a restraining order, okay? And then um cut off ties with him so he doesn't do this anymore. So if he does come back or if he does contact you after the restraining order, then he can be arrested for breaking that that court agreement. Okay? If you do decide that you want to press charges later on, then we can go through that motion um and um we can arrest him based on that information. Okay. Um uh but so far the only thing we have is just the theft of your phone and croch trespassing. He did trespass. However, you allowed him to stay that night. So here's like you're welcoming an un uninvited guest. See what I mean? >> What's their history? They messed up much, man. >> 2021 there was a domestic case with both of them uh kids in common. Um but anybody that I don't know >> the latest one was March was what was happening right now. >> Uh she didn't want to press shortness. He grabbed her phone and >> Oh. Okay. So this is the >> thousand. >> Okay. Just hold on to that. Is there a back way in >> watching that? >> There's a slider. >> Is it taped off and somebody's watching that? It's >> taped off. We don't have anybody posted back in. >> If I remember right, the door jam was kicked. in March and uh the door he or the window he actually went in through the window. >> Here's the case from 21. It's 1893 county case >> that I don't have no text message yet. >> We were here in March. >> Okay. >> For uh 76 >> Katie and Aaron were working on that also. >> So you said it was >> but yeah 189 2021. What's their code for the >> 0 4? >> So, okay. >> Yes. >> Bloody >> knife is under. >> Is he bloody? >> No, he's okay. Where's the prime? >> Right up here. >> Where's the nearest dumpster? >> To look for any more clothes if he's not bloody. Can you have somebody go search? Is that something? >> Excuse me. >> Where's the nearest dumpster? >> Around the corner. >> Around the corner in that parking lot. >> But if you go around there to the left, that one's closed. >> Okay. So, close to the gas station. >> Yeah. Go right uh in between the gas station and the front. There's one right there. >> Okay. I'll check this one first. >> Halfway in the back. >> Okay. Like kind of in the center, right? >> No, all the way in the back against the fence by >> Oh, okay. Okay. I'll probably since this is the closest one, I'll check this one first. >> Yeah, that's the closest. >> Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. >> Officers, check the nearby garbage bins. Oh, >> right here, too. >> It looks like it was just picked up. because it's it's very empty. >> Yeah, it's like >> I'll check. >> It's like five bags in there. >> Hey, so you two went in, >> right? >> Yes. Yes. So, from what I understand, uh, Rodriguez and a deputy made contact, told him to come outside at gunpoint, right? Then you two arrived, >> right? We arrived after he was secured. He was on the ground with Rodriguez. We went in with the deputy, cleared the apartment. Uh, >> it's in the back bedroom there. >> Yep. >> Yeah. You go down, go down the hallway, make a right, go all the way straight back. She's on the right side of the bed. If you're facing >> on the bed doesn't look like face down >> uh knife sticking out of her head. >> Dressed for the day or dressed pajamas. >> Pajamas. Okay. >> Did you have any blood on the ground next to her? >> Any contact with this male? >> Yeah. Oh, no. >> We didn't talk to him. No, cuz Rodriguez had him and was like, "You guys go in with the death." So, we just went inside. >> Okay. So, talking to all the officers, their involvement. So, the deputy arrived first. Okay. followed by Rodriguez about 30 seconds later. They order him out of the house at gunpoint. They take him down. >> They glove up, secure him. He's in the back of this car. 6:15. >> Okay. All he kept on saying was, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry." Prior to that, our involvement, he did go to his families, uh, which is number 37, and kept on, he was hysteric, hysterical, kept on saying, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry." Three people went in. Cus, Saki, and Johan. >> Okay. She's on the floor in the bedroom. And the deputy >> and the deputy >> the deputy that was here first. >> He went in with the deputy initially. Johan didn't go in until after. >> Rodrigo. >> Okay. He has bloody hands. No bloody clothing. They checked the dumpsters just now. No signs of bloody clothing. Right. Right. >> Okay. >> It seems like it was just picked up this morning cuz they're empty. >> Well, now that detectives are here, you could take off when you're ready. All right. You don't need me for anything else. Okay. >> Been all right. >> You disappeared. >> How so? >> You lost a lot of weight. >> Oh, yeah. I have lost a lot of weight. I lost 80 lbs. Congratulations. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Good. >> Thank you. I feel a lot better. >> Yeah. >> So, how's the family? How's everyone? >> You're doing pretty good. Yours getting bigger? >> Yeah. Good. >> Another one? >> No, she's going to be three in September. >> That's about time for another one. That's what I'm saying. >> It's not up to me. That's true. >> But everything's going well. >> Good. Good to hear. >> Good to hear. I guess Aaron just called me. >> But she's not here, right? >> No. >> Get here. >> Chriso. >> Oh, yes. Caruso is in that vehicle with Fields. >> That's what I'm supposed to say. >> And they just interviewed the suspect. He asked for an attorney. Anything else? He said there were an argument. >> Argument about apparently the camera in the bedroom not working. And when they pushed a little bit more, it's like to talk to the Okay. But at least he said they were an argument. All right. I mean, >> are you going to pass? Are you going to enter the crime scene? >> Not at this moment. If I do, I'll get I'll get your >> But I want to see what Yeah. >> what they want from me. >> All right. Good. Good seeing you. >> Yeah. You in charge of the fight? >> Yeah. You >> trying now? Listen to this guy. He'll tell you what to do, right? >> I try. >> Yes, sir. Hey, Sarge. Um the mom of the deceased uh she's on her way over there >> to the scene. >> Yes. We um we couldn't get a hold of her and we came to her house and she's not there and then we called a what I guess is a coworker or a friend um and then she said that she's on the way over to uh her daughter's address but she doesn't know what happened. She's going over there to check on her. So I just wanted to warn you. We're on our way back right now. >> Yeah, cuz we don't want her here. >> Right. Right. >> Yeah, we couldn't get a hold of her phone number. >> Okay. All right. Yeah, we just have to try to keep her back and then call a victim advocate if we can't >> Okay. >> If we if she doesn't handle it well >> and um go from there. But she can't get close to the crime scene. I'll help him. So they tried to ask him who he is and stuff. Uh we have a cell phone. Um speaking >> Yeah. He he already up. >> Yeah. I heard you talked to him a little bit before he >> basically what he told me was and they had recordings prior to us getting here. They have um audio recordings from back. >> I don't know. We'll have to have to review that after you're fine. >> Um so we'll have to do that. One time diagn she was mad that the cameras inside the bedroom weren't working and that's all. Yeah, he wouldn't really answer anything else that he tried. >> Um, >> yeah, there's cameras inside of there. So, we'll grab those, too. >> What are they? Michael came in or something like that. When do they do they record? >> I bet they do. And I bet that's >> Are they the kind that have an SD card in them or they kind that go to the cloud? >> Cuz here's the thing. >> Go to the cloud. >> Yeah, most do. But if they're just cheapos that have an SD card, um, you know, they keep recording every time motion happens. So, I had a case one time with Blake Mary where it happened and we kept walking by, cops are walking by, everybody's walking by, think he's recording, recording, recording, and it was set to record an overwrite after after recorded enough videos. And so, if you guys think we have an emergency at any point, you're going to want to glance at this, make sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I talked to Aaron, but Uh, so >> I think it says electronic devices. I don't know if that really counts. >> The device was seized outside. So, but yeah, as far as the cameras, >> yeah, it says to search for It says to enter and search for uh trace evidence, biological evidence, identification, any sharp edge objects, cellular devices. So, tell >> Yeah. Can you can you add uh surveillance camera? But then she probably just needs to add add a line that says >> hi. >> Add a line that says while clearing the residence, can you before you upload that, can you add maintenance? >> Yeah. >> A line. Is this a line that says >> and then just a line? uh somewhere in the report that says something along the lines of while clearing the resene. Yeah. And and additionally blah blah blah, right? He also stated that there was over the cameras. There's nothing. >> No, I was gonna ask him. >> Caruso. >> Caruso. You got a sec. I didn't get to take a picture of his hands. There's blood on them. You want to like I'll go turn him if you want to take a picture. Let's call Kathy cuz he already blurred up so >> Okay. I was gonna say Kathy. No, Kathy said, um, >> can you stand by anything like >> Kathy said wants to come out, photos, documents, clothing, clothing, all that kind of stuff. >> Okay. for what? >> For take off on him, picking up companies and all that kind of stuff because he's already wireed up. >> Yeah, >> I'm just taking pictures. >> Talk to the fields so we can so um Aaron can start maybe working on that cuz I was wondering for the cell phone too to get into that. >> I think somebody's already coming down from forensics uh forensics.com. >> I don't know if he'll come soon. So talk with him real quick. Mhm. >> I have an idea. >> All right. >> Yeah, I'll just ask him. You guys do what you got to do. Just cuz I didn't when I went and like cut him and stuff, I didn't take the picture right away. We're just trying to secure the scene and whatnot, but I want a picture of his hands. It's probably on camera, but you know, >> hey, any uh where we at? >> Um the office hasn't seen her since April 29th. Um but that doesn't obviously mean she has to come around. and they have socials and they have birth certificates for the kids. Everybody in the house was it was just her and the kids. Um the maintenance people said there possibly could have been a boyfriend there which >> and and then the family was like >> Are you going to go talk to the family next? >> We're going to finish canvasing real quick. >> Okay. All right. Actually, >> yeah. Go ahead and knock that out just real quick. I don't think there's anything else. There's been the weapon is in first. I was worried he might have ditched clothes because I didn't see any blood on his clothes, but >> I do want to reinter the family, see what he said to them. >> Right. >> To add to that, um, I didn't take a good picture of his hands. >> That's fine. >> I was just going to go grab turn them and we take it real quick. >> They got it. They'll do it. Okay. All right. >> Hello, I'm >> How are you? >> Nice to meet you. I'm here. This is the man. >> All right, Josh. Pleasure to meet you. >> It's always bad when I see him. >> Yeah. >> Hello. >> Hey, this is Officer Rodriguez. Is this Victoria? >> Yes. Yes. >> Yeah. Hey, uh I have some detectives out here. Are you back outside? >> We're still in the same area. They just want to talk to you real quick. You did? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, if you could come back here, we'd we'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Bye. So, >> she left. >> She's coming back. >> Like, she drove left or she's in there? >> Yeah. No, she she left. >> She wasn't on the scene or anything like that. I basically um Here you go. By the way, brother. >> Yeah. Brother comes into the house. He's freaking out. He won't give details. Keeps saying he's sorry. She's like something wrong. Is um and no response or anything like that. >> Why was her first initial a reaction to ask about her? >> Because they have history, but she's history. >> Yeah, they do. She cuz she used to go to the house often >> because they always fight all the time. So this time she I guess she never seemed this hysterical before and whatnot. So anyway, she's on her way back. He never told them what he did. Asked the grandmother, too. And she's just like, "Oh, I don't know what the hell is going on." Everyone's like kind of freaking out. So that's what I got from her. But she's on her way back. She was trying to give me mother's information, but she couldn't find it and doesn't really she knows probably a general area where she might live at, but she doesn't know the exact address or anything. >> So she told him to turn himself in. And mom is saying don't do it. >> No. No. They're both telling him to turn himself in. >> Okay. >> Turn him turn himself in. And then he said I want to go see his son. >> Her son. >> Yeah. He wanted to see like their their son. there, son. Okay. >> I know it might seem a little jumbled up, but uh that's the best I was going to get out. >> And then he left and tried to go see his the mother didn't allow him and told him the mother. >> So he left and he went to try to see his >> basically he saw this somewhere here. I forget. >> Yeah, they No. No. Okay. So yeah, basically when he got out here is about like an hour pass, I suppose. Okay. She lives in Orlando. Grandma lives around here, which I forgot to ask about that one. But >> supposedly the mom is on the way to the scene. Who of his family lives here then? >> Um, >> no, no, that was that was it. Sister and grandmother. Oh, no, no, my bad. Grandmother lives here. Sister just happened to be here. >> Okay. >> Sister lives in Orlando. >> Sister was just visiting. >> M said supposedly the mom is on the way to the scene. >> Is she aware? >> Or otherwise she can't go in. So >> she's she's going to see a power like that say that right now. >> No. >> Did uh anybody talk to Fields about the clippings and all that? >> See if we can or No, >> no, not needed. And um forensics is already coming out for that. >> Okay. So he's just going to hang up until our forensics or county forensics? >> County. So they'll collect it off and do whatever >> they were going to come down. >> I say congrats on the wedding by the way and I already told you congrats. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Not only based on what I know. >> You went You went in the house, right? >> Yeah. You need to see >> There's no kids in the house, right? >> No, there are no kids in the house. You You would know. Trust me. But yeah, I get you. >> Just make sure you guys like, you know, >> see her and then just walk out. >> Kids do reside there though, right? Mom is very committed to seeing her daughter no matter what. So don't let it happen. Don't let it happen. >> Yeah, I I got you. You know what vehicle she's coming in? >> Probably not. She's left by time. >> Yeah, somebody else is in the hospital. >> So she is aware then >> sounds like >> that something's wrong. Oh, >> because all he says is um her number about what happened. >> Do a favor go tell us she's on her way and that she's determined to see her her daughter because I have a feeling it might be one of those things where >> they're going to have to take her somewhere. >> Yeah, we're going to have to keep her out or secure or something that >> Okay. >> You know, >> you guys need more information about what's inside the house and you see anything? >> We have a search one going right now. >> Okay, good. No, cuz I have the I at least have general pictures. Yeah. >> Oh, yes, please. You can see the knife is on the right side of her temple. Yep. See [music] it there? >> Come on. Wait. >> So, it's a kitchen knife. What? So, he went all the way into the kitchen, grabbed it, and came back in. >> He saw He I think he said he blacked out when he was talking to the sister or whatnot. >> Who said that? >> Yeah, I forgot to put that. Yeah, he told the sister I blacked out. I don't know what happened. I don't know. >> So, this is the primary bedroom, right? >> Yeah. Well, now this this is like in the hallway. It's tried look taking a picture of it. Looking for serial number. I couldn't find Jack. That one literally when you walk in, you'll see it. >> Oh, it's a it's like a home security. >> Yeah. So, there's the front door. It's right there. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> So, anyways, I'll give you guys a good supplement, but uh you know, guard duty. >> Take your That's her. The sister confirmed that is the >> So, all right. >> Cuz he's not, you know, not cooperative and super hysterical. No problem. You guys good? Anything else as of now? Okay. Hey, so uh we got a problem. Mom is determined to see daughter. So like very determined apparently. That's it. And then my cat isn't let me put everyone's IDs and stuff inside the screen still. But that's her right here. >> Yeah, she is. >> Yep. I think that's her. >> I see. >> Yeah, I see. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I told him. Wait. >> Yes. >> I'm going to go to mom. >> Yeah. I was going to go talk to her real quick. >> Okay. Go ahead. I'm going to need a body camera though. >> Here. Well, >> I know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I got it. >> Where the children at right now? Do you know? >> They're in in the daycare. Supposedly she takes them in the morning. >> What day care? >> Huh? >> What day? It it's um it's on um right hospital where I worked. >> Okay. >> Is she okay? >> Unfortunately, um your daughter's found deceased. >> Okay, let's sit down. Let's sit down. Let's sit down. Let's sit down. I know. It's okay. Just sit down. Just sit down. Just sit down. Just sit down. >> Okay. You're okay. You're okay. >> Okay. Just all right. I'll be all right. You're all right. Hey. Hey. Just squeeze my hand. Just squeeze my hand. Just squeeze my hand. It'll be okay. Just stay [ __ ] Stay. >> Oh, God. Please. Lord. >> Lord. Take me. Take me. >> Oh my god. Oh my god. >> I know. I know. >> You're okay. No. Oh, please. Jesus. >> What happened? >> What happened? MOMMY, NO. >> They're at school. >> They're in the car. Mommy, mommy. >> Both of them. >> Okay. What happened? >> What happened? >> There was an incident between both. >> Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. >> It's okay. All right. >> Mommy, >> mommy. >> No. >> What's your name? >> What happened? >> My name's Jira. >> We'll tell you what happened a bit, but just >> sometimes. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Happiness. >> Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. >> God. >> Mommy. >> I got it. Don't worry. >> Please. Father. >> Father. Lord. Please fill my comfort. Lord. Please fill her with your comfort. >> Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Mommy. Breathe. Breathe. >> Oh my god. >> Mommy. Oh my god. >> Mom. >> Mom, breathe. Breathe. Please. Mommy, please breathe. >> Please breathe. >> I know. Mommy, I know mommy. >> No. >> Just the one that's on. >> I know mom. I know. Mommy. I know. Mommy. >> Oh my god. >> No. >> Mommy. >> Oh Jesus. Take me to here. >> Mommy. Mommy. daughter. >> My daughter, my daughter, no. God, please. Mommy. >> Mother, please. Please. >> My My other sister is on her way. >> Okay. Her name's Kimberly. >> Her car is driving. No, she drives a Subaru. >> What color? >> It's like a navy blue. >> Okay, thank you. >> Mommy, >> she was right behind me, so she should be >> That might be her. There. Is that a sedan? >> Yes. >> Okay, we're going to need >> No. >> Is Saki still here? >> There's another sister coming on the light. Oh my god. No. Oh god. Mommy. No. Oh my god. No. >> No to you. >> I know. Mommy. Another sister turning now. >> Mommy, this is where you got to lean on God. Mommy, lean on Katie's coming. >> Mommy, >> I'll stay here with these two. >> I got it. >> Lean on right now and are coming. >> Do you need me? >> He's here. He's with you. >> Right here. Right here. >> He is with you. No, >> please tell me. >> Just Just stay with your family, okay? I'll I'll tell you later. Just Just be with your family, okay? >> Mommy say mommy, mommy. >> I'm going to wait. >> You'll know. You'll know soon enough. But just just wait. Just wait. Okay. >> Just wait. Get it out of there. >> My god. My god. >> Where are the boys? >> They're at school. They're not here. Don't worry. They're fine. >> Mommy, let's go in the Who is this? >> Oh, that's the sister. >> That's another sister. No, that's the sister of the suspect. >> Okay. >> Here. Come on. Come on. Please. >> Are you able to just move into the shade? >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. I I got her. >> Here. Come with me. Come here. Come here. >> Just sit. Just sit down right here. Just sit down. >> Get your bearings. Okay. >> There you go. >> You can lean against the car. Okay. >> Where did your sister go? >> She's She went around the corner. She went right. >> Sister, make sure she won't cross it just in case. >> I don't think she will, but keep your guard up for that, please. I know. Okay, I'm going to call your job and mommy. I'm going to call your job and let them know you're not coming back. >> Please tell me. >> I know, Mommy. >> Mommy. I know. I know, Mommy. >> I know, Mommy. I know, Mommy. >> Why didn't she listen to me? I >> was so mom. >> We all do. >> I know. Mommy, I'm going to I got to call her drop in boss knows that she's not coming. >> Okay, go ahead. Yeah, we'll keep an eye on her in the meantime. >> When I tell the boys Oh my god. >> Mommy, you got to be strong for the boys. Mommy, you got to be strong for the boys, okay? You got to be strong for the boys. Okay. >> Oh my god. >> You got to be strong for the boys. >> Saki, bring it back over here. >> Oh no. Just give me a second. >> She doesn't want to be next to her. >> Okay, that's fine. Let's let's go over here then. We're just >> I'm sorry. >> No, no. Hey, don't don't apologize. We >> I can turn >> We know the situation >> to get out of the heat. Okay. >> Um then they can have some privacy. That's up to them though. >> Do you want to go inside the car and you get >> in the van right here? I have a couple of chairs. >> We know it's a lot going on. You want a little more privacy? >> Oh my god. >> Come on, mama. Come on, let's go. >> Let me let me get the milk. Give me your hand. Give me your hand so I can put some air. >> Let's get up. >> We can't do that. >> Mommy, you want to stay there? >> At least it's At least it gets you out of the heat. It gets you more privacy. >> Whisper. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. Just take a picture of her thing and just >> I can chill here and just just go do it on the computer. I'll call you on radio. Okay. Perfect. going to get some air condition going. Wait. >> Oh, she's right here. Okay. >> No, she's not okay. >> So, she passed away. >> Talk to them. >> Yeah. Hey, let me let me talk let me talk to them. Let me talk to them. You >> We'll handle it. We'll handle it. >> Excuse me. This is Officer Rodriguez of Caspay Police Department. >> Yeah. In reference to um uh what was your mother's name again? >> Miriam. >> Miriam. Uh she can't make it today. They had a family incident. So, we're just letting you know. Okay. I I She's Miriam is physically okay. I just This is all we can tell you. Okay. If she wants to tell you everything else later, she can, but right now that's that's it. Okay. But she she won't make it today. It's for a good and terrible reason. Okay. The kids are fine. get you a fine. We're going to go now. Okay. Bye. >> If you want more privacy, that's why we let your mom go in the van in the first place cuz quite frankly, no one needs to know y'all's business. >> Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Thank you. >> No problem. >> I just don't want to cry in front of my mom cuz I know that's going to make her cry even more. >> Well, it's very strong of you to do that. Okay. >> Hold on, buddy. >> I got to call my job now. >> You need some water? You need a sit? You need anything? Um, >> I know this is well to say it's really stressful is an understatement. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Mom. >> Uh, let me >> Can you hear me? >> You want me to just tell them, too? >> It's okay. It's It's my stepmom. >> All right. I'm just making sure. >> No fields have them. At least know where they are. >> Yeah. Just um so you know we we do >> we do have him. >> Huh? [snorts] >> He didn't. We >> He didn't. >> We We got him. >> You got Yeah, I know. I know you guys got him. We did it to her. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying we got him. >> Yeah. >> I just wish he would have listened to us. My mom does but my mom's distraught right now. Um so Kimberly gave the officer so the information for the boys's daycare. So I just thank God that they're safe and they're not here. I asked the lady if the boys saw anything or heard anything and um she didn't really say much. >> I have a question. >> Yeah. >> How long were they together? >> I don't know for like >> cuz here and your sister this his issues aren't anything new. >> It's not. He should have been in [ __ ] jail. He should have been in jail. But every time she kept dropping the charges and his family was going to press charges against him and everybody keeps dropping it against him. This is a history. His brother was doing the same thing. Like they're all It's an abusive family, but he's been doing this for a long time. And we've been trying to get her away from him, but domestic violence is hard. >> And even that like it's terrible to say this, that relationship or bond they have, that attachment is like it's >> I know. >> It's a unfortunately it's a more common thing. I I understand and I tried to get her to therapy. I tried to get her away from him. But >> unfortunately doesn't work unless she wants to. >> Exactly. Um but she she didn't she couldn't. She he had a mental hold on her. He was mentally abused because of the abuser. But we didn't realize at least to this stuff. >> I know you said it's on and off, but how many years including >> my nephew is three years old. >> So at least three years. Four. Okay. Uh, how often would she complain about him? >> She never would complain about him. We just knew because of the boys he would say something. The 3-year-old was old enough to say that daddy didn't me. >> So, um, given the circumstances, I told his sister this, too. Um, but you can probably expect to call your mother, whoever, because your nephews are going to need you guys. >> We can we keep them. So, I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure what's your name again? >> I'm Kimberly. >> Kimberly. Okay. I'm Kimberly. I'm I'm Joshua. Okay. >> I am. Here's the thing. I don't think that's going to happen. They have you guys, >> but you will get a phone call. At least your mother will from CPS. Okay. >> Because they need you guys. All right. They don't need to be with some strangers. >> Yeah. >> If they were here, most likely have been taken. >> Well, we're we're working on that. Okay. because I think it's best they go with you guys. >> They were living with my mom anyway most of the time. They would stay. >> Is she registered as a guardian? >> I think so >> because I know one of the children does not belong to um whatever his name is. Ferrell. >> They both have a deep attachment to my mother. They stayed at my mother's house all the time. They weren't here. They she has a bedroom for them. And >> can you do me a favor? I I don't At least you or your sister going to ask her this too. Can one of you guys stay with your mom tonight or all you guys? cuz she's >> we both called out of work, so we'll we'll be here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Everything's at UCF. I used to work there. >> I just I I got the call and left work right away. But that's fine. I can I'll be here. We'll both be here. Um she just wants her phone to calm down. >> No, no, that's fine. You you get that. I just had to ask you that question. Okay. And nothing against you, but to like make sure I know where you guys are at cuz I think it's no one in, no one out right now. I I understand. I I appreciate I know she wants to see your sister private and stuff, >> but like she you don't not want to do anything right now. Okay. >> I right now. >> No. No. You get why I don't like I know you're barely hanging on right now. You guys will know soon enough. >> But right now's not the time. Okay. >> Okay. Where's But you'll give us information from my nephews, right? >> We're not going to tell Oh, yeah. We'll we'll work with that with you guys, okay? because I think it's best to stay with family. Okay, >> that was God forbid. >> That's why we would take them all the time cuz we were scared for their sake. That was >> But yeah, um if you could please share the information on how we get them. >> I I'm pretty sure you guys can just pick them up from the school at this point. If your mom's always picking them up anyways, I don't see what the deal is. >> Okay. >> I just need to let CPS know where they'll be at. >> So, I'll get the information from you. Maybe not your mom right now. >> Yeah. What information can you share with us because I know some of the information you can't. >> No. No. Right now, if you want to ask anything, um, wait till he's over here. Do not walk over there cuz I'm about to go and have to unfortunately drag you back over here. Okay. >> The, uh, tall white guy with the goatee, that's Corporal Caruso. >> He's, um, the corporal of the detectives. If he's over here, talk to him. >> Okay. >> And he can, if he's trying to relate information, he can tell you. >> Okay. We just can say unfortunately she has passed and well I think you read most of the writing on the wall at this point. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> There is there is no fault. >> Who called? >> Him. He did. >> He did. >> So >> the lady in the red told me. >> Okay. Like I told her, we have them. So >> yeah. um >> you don't have to worry about a person at large and worrying about the kids as much cuz that unfortunately happens. >> Yeah, it just sucks, man. >> And then on top of that, our older sister, today's her birthday, so it's like having to drop that news on her, too. That's >> the four of you. >> There's six of us. Yeah, there's six of us. >> We have six of us all together now. >> Okay. Wow. >> I'm number two of five. So I I get the big family. I'm just not used to other people having one. >> Where you guys from? >> Here. Yeah. >> Same. What? You guys went to school around here? >> Winter Park. >> Oh, UHS. >> It's just you don't meet locals too often in this job. From like New York or something. >> Okay. >> One month's from New York. Hey, for real. >> Hey, there's two children, right? Are they both your children or one? Both? >> No. >> Where where are they at? They're at the daycare, right? >> Do you know the name of it at all? >> No. >> Okay. >> If you if we had to drive you over there, do you think you >> Let me look for it real quick. I'll be right back. Okay. If you can think of the name of it. Give me one second. Let me grab a a different phone and I'll watch your knee. Okay. >> Stay there. Okay. >> Why won't the mother tell us where the kids are at? >> Maybe she just doesn't know. I haven't talked to her yet. You can tell the proof though. >> All right. I'll do that. >> One of you. They're recording. >> Assisted by Vanessa's family, police tracked down the children's daycare. Hi. >> Hi. How are you? >> Whoa, that shut hard. >> Um, my name is Bill Nast. I work for Cassbury Police. Okay. There's a lady named and she has two kids named Trying to make sure they're here. >> They are here. >> They're here. They're safe. They're okay. >> They're here. They're okay. >> Okay. >> Is she okay? >> No. >> Okay. >> But I just need They just need to be here for a couple hours. And does she normally come get him in the afternoon? >> She does after work. >> Okay, good. Um, >> don't give them to anybody. Nobody >> until another police officer comes back and talks to you. It's probably going to be a couple hours. >> Okay. >> I won't I won't leave you hanging too long. I promise somebody will come back, but in case anybody tries to come pick them up, just say not right now. >> Okay. >> And I can give you my cell phone number if you need it. >> Yep. >> And then I'll be able to come back and update you on the circumstances. >> Okay. >> News crews arrive at the crime scene. >> Media's here. >> The news just got here. Okay. Yeah, >> you have the freedom to walk out if you want. But I mean, >> her job, my sister's job. >> Let's um You have the number. >> They text my mom. >> Well, then give me the phone. I can call him from your phone. >> They text mommy. Where's the number? >> I try to. >> No, it's okay. I took a picture. Okay. Grab it >> here. I'll call off my phone. You use my phone. >> Okay. I just don't think you guys want to be on TV for anything. >> Absolutely not. >> You have right to report and everything, but uh you also have your right to privacy. So, >> I appreciate that. >> Yeah. Thank you so much. >> But you are free to get out if you want to. You're not detained or anything. It's just um >> Yeah, it's it's better. You >> don't need people asking, "Hey, why are you on TV for >> Hey, this is Officer Rodriguez with Casper Police Department. uncle. So on um I can't tell you too much, but unfortunately she is deceased at this time. So these sisters just told me to give you a call and um just kind of give you a quick rundown. That's at this time that's all I can say. If they wish to tell you any information in the future, they can, but right now that's all we got. Okay. All right. Any other questions? >> All right. You take care of yourself. All right. Bye. Here's your phone. Here, I'll talk to her. All right. Thank you. >> No problem. Uh, >> hey Kathy. >> Hey. >> Uh, Detective Yasc. recording just you know >> I don't say anything new or just basically what I told you >> um mostly the same thing. >> Okay. >> Next time I'll just keep them here. >> Thanks. >> Do you want I'm going to give you a call? I guess someone called them so I'll call them right now. >> Give them a call. >> You want them to like to call you. See whatever you Maybe you can answer whatever it is for right now. >> Um I'm going to come out here regardless. >> Okay, that's fine. So because I'm probably going to look around real quick. So >> all right. You guys need a camera to go in yet or you need >> somebody to go with a body cam. >> Probably grab Saki. He should be out here if anything. If you can't unless you need me. >> Can we get an ME out here in reference to our call, please? >> 269. >> Yeah. Uh, she's talking to him. We'll give him a second. >> When she gets done, how's it going? >> Um, quick question that I didn't really tell them anything besides the general. >> We're not tell. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I I figured I just >> I told him I at least ask you. That was it. Well, we're still it's a full investigation, so it's all really >> Just wanted to be sure. >> We can't say much at this time because it's open investigation. >> I'm sorry. King 109. A lot of background medical examiner and they'll be calling you >> 26. I appreciate that. I'll be 76 east. all that does which normally doesn't happen. Um but that's how much you guys You know, man, >> what's up? >> Y'all don't really get props for what y'all do, but y'all handle a lot of we appreciate you, man. >> Yeah. No, I I appreciate that >> cuz y'all don't y'all get a lot of backlash, but [ __ ] man. Sometimes it's welld deserved. >> Yeah, I know. But man, the good ones got to get praised cuz y'all go through hell, too. >> Thank you. That means a lot. >> Besides what you told me, your brother has a constant issue of abusing people, including you and your mom possibly. So, >> the one who drinks, you just >> Oh, I can say in future reference, even though it's not easy, even though it's happening to someone you care about, um, or even you, don't take it >> cuz sometimes people feel like they're unable to do whatever they want at the end of the day and just say, >> "Can I argue with me?" >> Just just wait here for now, can't she? Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. I am so sorry. >> Sorry. >> Why did you Why did you do that to me? >> Thank you. >> Police escort Vanessa's mom and sisters to the daycare to pick up the kids. >> That's fine. >> All right. Hey, watch your arms and legs. Okay. >> No, that's mine. >> Watch yourself. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> No problem. If you need anything, give us a call. Okay. Tell the mom. >> Okay. His mom is here. She's grandma. >> She can take them. >> And she can take them. >> Okay. >> And she's fixing to come in. >> Okay. >> So, thank you for helping us. >> So, she's they're leaving now. >> I I think. But let's talk. Let's see what she wants to do. I think I think she I think she's going to pick them up. >> Okay. >> We know grandma. >> Yeah. >> Good. That makes me feel better. >> Yeah. No, she's nice. I think they took a phone call. They're standing right here. But >> okay, >> there she comes. >> What is What is there >> for me? We don't ask anything else for me. Um >> I just [snorts] don't Can I ride back with you so I can >> I just don't want the kids to see the police. >> I'll meet you at the house. Okay. >> Okay. >> Um so inside my van so they have to step to the side a little bit. Oh my god. >> Put your hands out like this again. >> Investigators process the scene taking photos and forensic samples. Hey. Um, yeah. Who told you unit 37 was involved? >> What? >> Who told you unit 37 was involved? >> Somebody section 37 went down to here. Just moved out. >> Oh, wait. >> No, no, no. He just came out here. I know before prior. >> Oh, okay. Oh, like a prior call. >> All right. Cuz I I don't know what what's up with that unit. That's why. >> Yep. >> Stay with me. >> I got it. Get done. very high tech. >> Exact same thing to your up. >> Oh, okay. Oh, this sucks. There we go. Perfect. The shoes are the easiest. So, we can start with the shoes. Do you mind popping those off if you can? I got >> there. We got you. Don't worry. >> Okay. >> Here. I can help with that. Here. >> Go. Try pulling up. >> Pavement hot. >> Is the pavement really hot? >> It's okay. >> It's okay for now. Okay. >> No. >> Okay. So, we're going to need all of his clothing. >> We're just going to cut it or do you guys >> uh I prefer it all. >> Okay. All right. >> You don't understand. We're doing that right now, right? >> Got to take your shirt off first. >> Yeah. >> Please. Hey. Hey. Hey. We still got >> We're still letting you know. Okay. >> Just going to collect your clothing and then we'll give you a a suit to put on and then you'll be all set. Done. >> Take this right hand put on your head. Okay. Go ahead. There you go. Leave it there. I got this side. Don't worry. I don't see anything in this one. You understand? >> All right. Go. >> Okay. Now, I probably just get closer to the vehicle. >> I get a little bit in. Close the door a little bit. >> Yep. Whatever. Whatever's easy for you guys. Do you want to take it off or want to take it off? >> Take it off. All right. Jared there. Yeah, sure. Go for it. >> All right. Straight in there. >> Can you tilt your head a little bit that way? >> Okay. >> All right. Now for the pants or >> Okay. I'll leave that one to you. >> Yeah. >> Face there. There you go. >> And then once the shorts are off, we can put him into the >> suit. You need his socks, too, or no? >> Yes. >> Okay, I figured. >> Do you have like any uh >> foot booties for him? >> No. Have any separate booties? >> Uh ones. Cuz I have huge ones. >> We can just chill here while I go grab them real quick. >> I think she's going to go grab them. Yeah. All right. >> All right. We'll take off the pants just for >> Yeah. All right. All right. First time. Okay. >> Yeah, but I can >> Okay. >> Been a little while. >> Perfect. >> Pull it. >> I'm trying not to. >> There we go. Stay here. We're just going to I think we just do this like a belt for now. >> Yeah, like that. >> Yeah, I'm going to tie and just zip it up to the rescue. >> No, my my glove got stuck in it. So, that's the issue. There we go. >> All right. All right. I'm going to go back to the car. Okay. >> Thank you. Appreciate the cooperation. >> No problem. >> I got it. >> Grab the hat. >> I got >> Has that guy been >> Yes. >> a problem? >> Yes. We tried to get her away from him, but I was, you know, they have a mental hold on >> Yeah. >> you and she couldn't let go. She would hide it from us. >> Yeah. We had a call with her in March where he took her phone and she just insisted that we not do anything and not arrest him. She's always dropped the charges. Every time >> he pulled a knife out on his family and his own family, dropped the charges, too. We should have been in jail. In jail, we were planning to call on him, but we just didn't have proof. So, all we could do was take the kids every time just to make sure that they're safe. >> Yeah. Which is >> She's an adult. makes her own choices, but those kids have no choice. So, >> I would come to my mom's house every almost every day. >> Yeah, I went there first thing, but she wasn't home, I guess, cuz she was at work. >> At work. Yeah, >> we were all at work. Her friend messaged us cuz her friend lives in the same complex. She said, "I'm sorry, something's wrong. There's cops outside. You don't know how you did it yet, right? >> I'm sorry. >> You don't know how he did it yet? >> I do. >> Not really. >> Do you need to know or would you rather not know? >> Well, why don't you wait? >> Yeah, actually. What? >> He stabbed her in the head with a knife. >> So it was quick. So at least she didn't suffer anything else. >> He will be now, but I know that doesn't help you, but >> supposed to be jail stupid. He pulled a knife out on his family and he was supposed to be in jail and they dropped charges on him. He kept they call it negative reinforcement. >> Yeah. >> Well, he kept getting away with it. >> Exactly. >> So then he was emboldened and he thought, "Oh, I can get away with it again." >> Did he was he into drugs at all or was he just a maniac? This maniac is sorry is like that. His brother is was like that. His dad is like that. That girl with the hat in the truck crying is his sister and was always trying to tell my sister to stay away from him. But all the men in that family, you ever hear that story with the suitcase, the man who got suffocated in a suitcase by his girlfriend? >> No. No. Was that that was them? >> That's his brother. Oh, >> his brother was beating his girlfriend, too. And one day she got drunk and decided to lock him in a suitcase and he died, suffocated in there. Frell Torres is charged with Vanessa Santiago's murder. >> Prosecutors argue that Torres stabbed Vanessa multiple times with a steak knife, leaving embedded in her skull. He then dropped the children off at daycare before calling police to the scene. After deliberating for just 14 minutes, the jury convicts Frell Torres of secondderee murder. He's sentenced to life in prison.