Thank you. One of these guys. I know >> I didn't do any I didn't say you did that. But you got to be prepared for them to try to do that when there was two shot. The main thing I think is because it was two shots fired. But I don't I don't I don't I'm not saying you did or did I make it out of the shower? Well, that's kind of suspicious, too. If you had residue on your hand, go ahead. >> Did they already did? Okay. Go ahead. All right. Fine. Good. >> The lawyer, they she just called before you, right after you did, said that she had talked to him just a couple minutes before. So, you are released. They just got to let you go. If they don't let you go, >> well, they they called she talked to another building. >> Mhm. So, if they don't let you go within about 15 or 20 minutes, I'm calling the lawyer and they're in deep [ __ ] I'm going to sue them. >> Well, no. No. What? Tell me. What did you say to them? Huh? And you guys do a lot. What did you say to them? I just ask questions the same thing over and over sometimes. But stuff that I can answer, man. Like, when something like that happens, you don't know exactly how many inches or or what is that? Come on, man. You know what I mean? They didn't have to look at their [ __ ] wife. Take out the last breath, Dad. >> I know. Where did she shoot herself at? >> I don't know. >> Okay, that might be Maybe that might be suspicious, too, where the wounds are. They won't tell anybody. >> I don't know. >> Because the body is still there. They haven't removed the body yet. >> That is sick. >> They have to get a search warrant before they can do it. And the examiner hasn't been there either. >> So, they're dropping the ball. >> Well, I don't know. That's that's normal procedure. I mean, I was But I was honest with him. >> I know. That's fine, but you're [ __ ] I know. What about Ryan? Ryan's in the other room. Let him go. >> I don't know. I don't know. But they're trying to pin it all on me, and that's not cool. >> What are they saying to you? >> Oh, well, this is suspicious. That is >> You got to understand. Ask me questions. I don't know. >> Well, you have to understand there are some things that seem suspicious. I'm not I'm just saying, you know, devil's advocate. >> Sure. Okay. Two shots. >> Sure. >> You just got out of the shower. >> Sure. >> Could have washed all that stuff off. Okay. No witnesses. >> Hey, get the foot off. >> I know. Well, that's neither here nor there. You were wet. >> Yeah. >> No witnesses. >> I said he heard >> he heard two. He told me he heard two pops. >> Yeah, me too. That's what I heard. >> He said cuz I asked him when after I talked to you, you know, or before I talked to you. >> Sure. >> Cuz he was over there. your mom was hugging him and stuff and I I asked him I said Ryland what happened and he goes I don't know grandpa I was watching TV and I heard something go pop and I know my mom was hurt they're trying to tell me that Ryland said that there was a scream there was no scream that I heard only thing that was screaming is me saying call 911 somebody well maybe that's what he thought well he's a little kid they can't go by everything he says especially when they're interrogating him without a family member there. >> Yeah. I mean, they're trying to say this and that when I've been as honest as I can. >> Well, that's all you can be, but don't you clam up. You're lawyered up now. Shut your mouth. Don't say another word. So, you need anything, you speak to my lawyer. I've got his name and his personal is ridiculous. >> Well, Sarah put up $1,000 cuz I I know I know you will. And he wants a total of $8,000. And he says they're probably going to get you at least a class 3 felony for the >> Yeah, you might as well talk about it now. It doesn't matter. They're going to find you. >> You already told him. >> Oh, I'm honest. >> Okay. So, is that Oh, you have it? >> Yeah. Herbs vials. >> Herb guns. >> What about the vials? >> What? Oh, dabs. That's weed. >> I know, but that's different. >> No, it's just weed. >> No. Well, he said that they'll probably get a class three felony for the over 20 some odd grams of >> uh that he says, but there, you know, cuz she was saying, "Well, what about all this retaining?" He says, "I don't give a god damn about the rest of the retainer. Just do what I told you to do. We need to get on this right now." >> I had a captain come over. Good. Because I did. I know. I know. And he knows you. Who is it? Edward, he's talked to you a couple times. He's sure. >> Oh, I think I know who it is. >> Mhm. He's a good guy. >> Well, you know, a suggestion. I know this is early and everything, but we're right here talking. We might as well get out. Yeah. You're going to have to get somebody for for some counseling for you and Ryan Bo. >> Oh, I know. like yesterday. Okay. >> This has got to be horrible for you. No, I can't. When you're driving, man, when you look over and you're slipping around the whole place because I just got out of the shower, right? When you look over and you see her take a last breath and her eyes roll back down. And then, not that I've been through enough, but they're trying to paint that [ __ ] on me, man. >> Well, I don't know if they're trying to paint anything on you, but they're, you know, they do have to do their job, Keith. They have to cover all the bases. >> I understand, but man, I've been through you here all this time is ridiculous. >> I've been through enough. >> Did they tell you that you had the chance that you could leave whenever you wanted to? Did they ever tell you that? >> Yeah, but I was trying to cooperate. >> All right. But did they tell you you could leave whenever you wanted to? You better just ask me if they know you're here today. >> Well, not any longer. If they don't let you go, then I'll call the lawyer and there'll be [ __ ] to pay. >> We have to wait until forensic investigation. >> [ __ ] done like that. >> No, they know that there's drugs in there. That's why they don't want you to leave. >> It's just [ __ ] weed. >> It doesn't matter. There's drugs. That's why they don't want you to leave because they know they're going to have to come and arrest you again anyway. >> Oh, well, let me at least have my time with mine. with your family for a while and then you know since you know that they're going to do it maybe tomorrow just I know whatever the arrangements already made >> but then you can just come in now listen >> I know I know Keith tomorrow you can be the man and you can say I know that you you know you found that stuff I'm turning myself in because it's better to do it that way than to have him come haul your ass away with handcuffs. Don't you agree? >> Yeah. >> Be the man. Okay. And that way I can get all my money out of my bank account. >> You need to do that immediately. My card's in the um in my car. >> Well, we can't get in there until they remove all of that tape. But Michelle, you can go to Michelle. Michelle can get You got your ID with you? >> They have it. >> They got to give you all that [ __ ] >> They won't even give me back my cell phone. >> Well, I know. Well, I called a long time ago and he says, "I want to talk to my son right now." >> They never called back. That's when we said lawyer. >> Yeah. I didn't but you're you're okay. You got a lawyer. The lawyer said he didn't care about the rest of the retainer. He talked to you about that later. The main thing is get you I mean this is what this is what you being honest. >> I understand. But they're you have to understand too they're doing their job. Okay. They want to make sure they haven't charged you with anything. I mean, I wouldn't even obviously they it they they probably know that it was a suicide. Okay. It wasn't a suicide. >> She killed herself. But why would she kill herself? Keith, if we knew that, let me stop every suicide in the world. >> Right. Before I heard the pops, I was in the shower. She pe the thing. I got to get out of here. That's the last thing I said. >> People snap keys. What I think is she was trying to maybe reach out >> the bed because >> why would she even have a gun in the first place? >> My weapons were in the bed. >> Oh, >> in the side. So if she took them out to move them, she used to do that all the time. >> Why would two Why would there be two shots? That's what doesn't make sense. >> It hitting the floor. Why would those guns don't just go off by hitting the floor? I don't know. >> I know you don't know, but they don't go off by getting a vote. You have expensive guns. They wouldn't do that. >> No, they only one of them has a safety. >> It doesn't matter. It'd have That triggered have to be a hair trigger to do that. >> One of them is >> Which one was used? >> I don't know. >> Okay. All right. I'm not grilling you. I want to I want I want the best. >> They haven't even told me much. Then you know more than me. >> Well, I don't know anything either. They wouldn't tell us anything. It's like they won't let Ryan go with anybody until the the ch child services make sure that he's not severely traum traumatized. >> He didn't see her. >> He don't know. >> Well, he don't know. >> I will tell him. I don't think you should tell him cuz you're not in the condition to do it, Keith. >> I have to man up. I know you do, but we need to talk about how to do that. Okay. >> As a family. as it well just you and your mom and I. >> Uh I mean that's the doctor's part. >> Well, he knows that she was shot. >> So does he knows that she was hurt. He knows he's talking. >> He knows that she left in an ambulance. >> Okay. >> So the hard part's over. >> Okay. >> Okay. See, I didn't know he knew any of that. >> He knows that that cop told me that. He knows those three things. Good. >> Okay. He didn't see the body. Thank God. Dad, you wouldn't want >> I know. Well, no, but I've seen death before, but No, it's not. >> What was weird? I didn't see no pool or any of that. >> Well, it depends on where she was shot. >> So, I don't know. Nobody knows. >> And they're like, "Your security? Go ahead and look on them." >> Yeah. Well, they asked about your security. And I said, "And I said, not even." >> I said, "You know something? I don't even know why he's got it." And your mom said, cuz they interrogated me. I interrogate questioned me and your mom separate. >> Sure. But then you're but we could hear each other >> outside the car. We was in front of your house for over 3 hours >> waiting for them to talk to us. >> I told everybody else to leave and we stayed there and I said well I I made Braden leave right away. I said >> I says you do not need to be here when they bring that body out. I says we don't want to be here. >> I didn't want to be there. >> Nobody does. >> I can't never go back to that house again. >> Well, you're going to have to. You're going to have to because you got to Well, you may not be able to live there, but you're going to have to go back cuz you got to get yourself in there. >> I know you can. I don't blame you, >> but you know how to deal with Well, nobody does, Keith. It's some That's why you need to get help to help you deal in and to learn how to deal with this. I can't help you there. I mean, it's bad enough that we can support you, but I can't advise you cuz I don't know. I've never had to go through this. It's bad enough that they're that they detain me and charge you this and that. Well, they haven't charged you with anything. Obviously, they're not charging you with murder or anything. >> I don't know what they're going to do. >> Well, you don't know. But, but I mean that you already >> Well, they're bringing it up. Yeah. >> And that freaking [ __ ] from Flagler Live. Not even a real reporter was there. >> Stuff should be private. >> Well, no, it's not private. It's public record. >> Yeah. >> But he was there and he was talking to the neighbors and blah blah blah. >> They don't know us. No. Well, they said that you know that that Ryland just started playing with the neighbor across the street and they were have they were having a party across the street. The black >> I know we're invited. >> I know. And the guy down the street was there next door to them. The couple where we were parked >> that there was a bunch of people there on a truck and they were taking I says, "You know what, guys? Let's have a little respect." Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> Hi. >> Can I talk to you outside real quick? I was done with my conversation. >> Oh, okay. Sure. >> The lawyer is already >> Okay. All right. >> So, you should have had that information, but >> I'll talk to the lawyer first. >> Okay. >> All right. They just told me basically what they did you that uh you didn't you weren't told where she was shot. >> No, >> she was shot in the chest and in the shoulder in this area. >> Okay. >> That's one of them went completely through the body. >> Okay. That's all he told me. And he said that's what's very suspicious. >> Not if she was got the two guns out of the thing. >> Well, I don't know. I don't I I have no idea if there was two guns involved. Well, I mean, he mentioned something about two guns, but I did not, you know, and I says, "Is it feasible?" And he says, "Not really." Now, I'm not blaming it. I'm not doing me. >> Well, I mean, crazier things happen. But he says that that you are a person of of interest cuz you already know that. >> Yeah. >> That you're not going to be charged with anything about that. >> Why don't [ __ ] leave? >> I just asked him. I said, "Can we leave?" "No." "Why? We have to go through the crime scene first." And I says, "Uh" >> I says, "If he's not charged, you have to let him go." >> And he goes, "Well, uh" I says, "Well, we have a lawyer." >> And the lawyer is already contacted and you have to release him. >> Yeah. >> And he goes, "He's not free to go." >> So, >> they are going to, you know, I'm going to go get your mom. Uh we are going to be able to go see Ryland. >> Okay. >> Okay. Uh he does know like I said um da da da da >> they're trying to keep it >> okay they're trying to keep him occupied and so on so he's somewhat prepared >> so we just need to know should we tell him I think we could probably do it a little easier than you can right now case we can we can put God in there >> say you're with your sister and mommy is in heaven I didn't do it, dog. >> I didn't say you did. But they're acting like I did. >> It's suspicious being shot once once in the chest and once in the shoulder. That's very suspicious. You got to understand that. I'm not saying you did or didn't. I wasn't there. I didn't see any shadows, though. That doesn't mean anything. Was she laying on her stomach, in her back, in a com by the bed? >> Well, you just chose not to see it then. Oh, I seen like a little like a little spot of blood, but not know like big pool. Well, usually when you get shot like that, you don't have big pools of blood unless it hits a heart or an artery. >> Okay. But he said he pointed he said once in his shoulder and once in the chest wherever. He said in this area. >> Okay. >> So, we got that information. Uh, and he he tried to explain to me we got to go through everything blah blah blah. Which I understand and you understand too. And I says, well, then he says, we can't talk to you. They can't talk to you. So, they know that you had a lawyer. >> They need to let you go. We're charging. >> They're not. I'm going to sue them. >> Well, just I'm going to ask him one more time. >> Are you going to let release him? >> If you don't release him, are you going to charge him? M if he says, "Well, we have to wait, blah, blah, blah." That's [ __ ] They don't have to wait. They either charge you or let you go. >> Period. And don't be late. >> And you know, and if they don't let you go, then your lawyer's going to have a [ __ ] fit. >> I need to call him. >> Well, when your mom comes in, we're going to bring the phone in. >> Okay. >> And you can talk to him. >> Okay. >> I got his personal number. I mean, and he'll >> This is what you get for being honest, man. >> Well, maybe you're being honest. I'm not saying you are not. I mean, I'm sure you are, but you still have to understand there's a death involved. >> I know. And it's a gunshots. And there's two of them. And this is supposedly suicide. Is it an accident? Is it a >> Was it out there? I don't know. >> Was Did she shoot herself and then drop the gun? The gun go off? >> That's all these different things. And that's what they're trying to figure out, too. They will know once they do the autopsy, which they will have to do. >> They do the autopsy and they I don't know if they can even find the other bullet cuz they were standing out by the back the back window. That was your that was your room, right? >> Yeah. >> Because maybe the bullet went through the wall. >> I don't know. >> Out because they were standing there. One guy had an umbrella standing outside in the rain. >> I don't know. >> So maybe maybe one shell went out. That's where it went. But the other one's in her I wish the one that's in her cavity was the one in the chest. >> But thing I wish is I would have took a hot shower. >> Well, I would come with you. >> I know when things like this happen, Keith. >> How would I had her come in with me? >> No, you don't know, Keith. People snap. She's been very depressed. >> Not really. Unless she's behind it. >> Not to your mom or sister. >> Yeah. See, this is stuff I don't know. >> Cuz she talked to your mom and told your mom that I I'm not a good person. >> But why? When? When did her baby die? >> That's what I told them. >> When? Year ago. When? >> 3 years ago. But what time is it? Close to that anniversary. >> She She had said something, I don't know, a week and a half ago. She said something else, too. Man, I miss, you know, I I miss her. You know, she wasn't on her drugs. >> I was always there for her. I know I had, >> but she wasn't on her medication, bipolar. Was she stopped? I don't know if it was bipolar or she says she for her anxieties or whatever. >> She was taking drugs for that and she quit. >> Sure. And she was fine. But she wasn't fine. >> Why didn't she let me know that? Keith, sometimes you blow up. >> No, I mean, why wouldn't she say, "Hey, I need to go to the doctor." I understand. >> Okay, I understand. >> Well, but you know, Keith, sometimes sometimes you're a little difficult, too. >> Yeah. But she could have been afraid to say anything to you because you might blow up. >> No, she knows I've been like, "All right, I'm just throwing it out there." I mean, Dad, she just was just about to get that one thing out of her arm so we could have a kid. Keith, I can't tell you. I don't know if we knew what if we knew what makes people snap. >> But it don't seem like it would be something that she would do. Dad, that doesn't mean anything. I mean, especially with Ryland in the next room. >> Well, he was we were just talking about that, too. You know, they say, "Well, you know, blah, blah, blah. You know, people put suicide notes for years and years, and then all of a sudden they do it." They say, "Well, you better get the other person because they killed her or him or whatever." >> Yeah. her family. >> Her family's already lying me. >> Well, of course, but they don't. Nobody knows anything at this point. >> I don't even know. And I I want to know what the hell happened. Well, I don't know, Keith. I wasn't there. >> I mean, all I know is what I seen. >> But I wasn't there. >> I know. But they weren't there. The only one that was there was you and Ra. >> No, Riley didn't see. >> No, no, no. The only one that was really there was you in the bathroom, her in the bedroom, and God. >> That's the only three people that were there. And God will protect me. Well, she's with God cuz she was a believer. >> Sure. >> So, we know where she's at. >> I feel comfortable that way. I I don't want to see her gone, but I feel comfortable that she's in the right place. >> I can't believe. >> And that's what we're going to tell Ryland. He can understand that. Okay. I mean, I can't believe the cop says he needs to know. But it's hard. >> It is hard. That's why let us do it >> cuz you're not in any condition to do that. >> We need to be strong. >> You won't be strong with him either. You're going to break up. >> I know you will break up and it'll just make him feel worse. Okay. And I know you want to be the man. You be the father. But right now is not the time to do that. >> I mean, the best person of my life is no longer living. >> I'm sorry. How is there a God? Of course, there's a God. Accidents happen. People snap and they do unrulable things. >> Why? Whether they kill somebody or they kill themselves or accidents. You know, God cannot intercede earth. But why would he make her take her? >> He didn't. >> You know who did? >> Satan. Satan caught her at a weak point. Absolutely. Or it was just a [ __ ] accident. It could have been. I don't know. I mean, no one will know for a while. Right before she peeked her head in and said, "Mess with me, you know." Well, it was something that we used to do. >> I thought you had your guns all locked up. I I did all but two. All but two. Well, when this is all over, I'm taking all your guns. >> No, we're going to sell all my guns. >> Well, I'm going to take them, though. >> Yeah. Whatever. >> Whatever. But I mean, I'm not suicidal or nothing. I didn't say that. But [ __ ] happens, you know. But people don't kill people or guns don't kill people. People do. >> Yeah. Unless it's an accident like that, then it's then it's completely that's freakish accident. >> Mhm. >> Okay. But you know, and I'm saying this, I'm not blaming you, Keith. >> Listen to me, though. Listen to me. But if you did do it, I'm just saying. >> I believe you didn't, but you didn't. But if you did, own up to it. >> I would have by now. >> Well, I'm just telling you, if you did it, you own up to it. It'll be better for you. >> But I didn't. >> Okay. I believe you. And if I did, I would own up. I've been honest up to this point. >> I understand. I understand. >> I mean, but they don't want you to think I'm trying to believe you, Keith. >> I know. I'm talking you manto man because this is the time to do it. Sure, but I'm not going to admit to something that I did not do. >> Okay, that's fine. I believe you. You know, it's bad enough that I have all this damn tragedy in my life right now. I know. I don't know which way to go with it. >> I know. Neither do we. We're numb. >> I have no emotions at all anymore. None. I know you do. You are, too. Your mom's numb. Everybody else is crying her eyes out, and they're saying, "How come you're not letting it out?" I can't. I I don't have time to. We've been not only that, I'm numb. But I have no emotion. Any emotion. But why would she want to? That just don't make sense. >> I don't know if it makes it It never does, Keith. It just don't make sense. It doesn't make sense. That's the only sense I can make of it. I don't know. She was very depressed. But she didn't let me know that. Well, you know, she did other people, I guess. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't she talk to me? Talk about she may not have trusted you, Keith. >> Or she just wanted to talk to a girl. Well, maybe, >> you know, maybe. I don't know. But she was kind to reaching out cuz your mom said that she gave she told her that one one woman, that counselor that was free >> and that was in the middle of last week. Okay. >> And she said, "Okay, I will call her." But your mom didn't was going to text it to her. And she didn't for some reason. >> Okay. >> Your mom's saying, "Well, maybe if I did that. Well, maybe if this or maybe if that. Maybe if I would have taken a shower. Maybe if you didn't have guns. Maybe you didn't have that. Maybe if she, you know, maybe she was in the other room. Maybe if I would have been in the same room. Maybe if I didn't take a shower. Maybe don't mean anything. You [ __ ] in one hand and put babies in the other. Which one gets far?" >> Yeah. I know it's a crappy analogy, but but Dan, >> I'm so weak and worn out. >> I know you're all cried out and I understand that. >> I just can't make sense of it. Well, nobody can. >> I can't. >> All right. Well, I'm going to go get your mom and we're going to go talk to Ryland. >> But I want to see mom. >> I know. We'll bring you here, too. >> I know. Okay. >> All right. But let us take care of that first, okay? Then we'll come in and we'll let you know what he has to say cuz you need to know that, too. Get the [ __ ] out of here. >> I'm trying. No, I'll call the lawyer here. I'm going to ask him one more time. >> Are you going to release him? >> Uh, not at this time. >> Okay, then I'll I'll bring the phone. You can call your wife. >> Get your uh You want to bring your wife in here? >> Yeah, I'm going to bring my wife in, but we're going to call the lawyer. >> Okay, let's go. You come and get us. Yes. >> All right. First, >> I know. Okay. I'm going to let you go. All right. Here's here's We're going to be able to talk to Ron and we'll tell him the news. Okay. >> Trying to get me, but listen. Listen to me for a moment. Don't say another thing. Just listen to me. We can call your lawyer in private. If you talk to the lawyer, they want it to be on speaker phone so they can hear it. So, we're going to call the lawyer first and get his advice. >> I'm going to sue the hell. >> Well, just relax. We're going to call the lawyer after we talk to Ryland. >> Yeah. >> And then we're going to And then I will get his advice. >> Okay. >> And then if he says it's okay for you to talk with them listening, I will give you my cell phone and you can talk to them. >> Okay. If they haven't charged you, they have to let you go. >> Well, I I assume so, but we don't know everything. The lawyer doesn't know everything that's going on as well. >> Okay. Well, nobody does. And they're not telling anybody everything. >> She was shot in the chest and the shoulder. >> That's all they told me. >> I didn't know. >> I know you did. >> Anyway, no. Straight up. >> I know. >> Okay. Okay. But they're going to come and get us so we can break the news around and we know how we're going to do it. >> It's going to be a hard one. >> It is going to be hard. But we got to be strong and maintain and why are they holding on what? >> They won't tell me. They have to wait until they all he told me is they have to wait until the investigation is complete at the house. >> The days because of the drugs probably. >> It's just [ __ ] clear. >> I don't care. Just you already told him. Yeah, I told they I mean who cares? It doesn't matter. They've got it. >> But it's two shots. That's why you're saying that. >> Well, see, I only said it was two guns. I kept them both in the side of my bed. They fit in there perfectly. Yeah. >> So Kate was cleaning or anything. >> How would she clean and get it? >> Because they're on the side of the bed. >> They don't have a safety. >> They don't have a safety. >> It could happen. And he Keith understands it does look suspicious because of that >> getting shot here and here. Well, here and in the chest >> and the one went through her body. That's probably where those cops are out there were that I told you that probably what that was. One of them went completely through the body and the other one's alive. It's probably the one in her chest. He didn't say exactly where. >> And you beat trying to be in the shower. I mean, we already discussed that. >> But come on, man. Well, you would never hurt anybody. >> I know. I was here. >> You have never even hit anybody. >> I know. >> Well, they're going to come get your mom and I wouldn't do because Yeah. >> But I don't know what to do. >> We can only talk privately to the lawyer. >> Lawyer says, >> "You don't say what the lawyer says. Don't say anything at all. Nothing else." at heart. I didn't worry. >> And I'm not saying what you're saying is right or wrong, but don't say anything. >> I mean, >> let the lawyer do the talking for you. >> Dor, you told him everything I know. >> Well, don't say anything else. They can't talk to you anymore unless you offer information. >> We can't talk to you. >> Well, you're in shock. >> Well, yeah, we all are. >> Did they even give you anything to eat or drink? Upset to eat? >> Well, but you did. They've been giving you something. It looks like you had soda. No, that's the dudes. I mean, they're as honest as you can with somebody even though it's hard for you to be and then they try to pin [ __ ] >> Well, they're not really trying to pin. >> That's why you keep your mouth shut. >> Well, I told >> cuz they can take everything out of context. >> Sure. I told them everything I know and from what I remember, I can't remember everything. Mom, >> well, she must have just gotten up. >> Tell her what she told me. >> What? Not about the shower. >> Oh, okay. Sh. They had woke me up and was like, "Okay, I'm going to make some breakfast, you know, and all that, you know, and I was like, "Okay, I'm going to go take a shower." Went into the shower. The little curtain things weren't done all the way because she's so damn sure. I was doing that. All of a sudden, she went in. She's like, "Boom." I said, "Ah, go away." And then about I don't know a little not after pop. Doesn't make sense. >> Did you jump out immediately when you heard the pops? When did you come out of the bathroom? >> It was pop. Pop. The first one I thought it's like a balloon. You know what I mean? And then after I heard the second one I was like, "Whoa, something's wrong, man." You know what I mean? And I ran out there. Hey, slid across the floor and everything. Naked and got on the phone. >> You saw her laying there? >> Yeah. Well, I saw her laying there. No, he does. And I was like, "Oh, no. Oh, no." Got on the phone immediately. Called 911. Okay. You know, and told what what not. And I don't remember what time I put on my clothes. That doesn't But I just They probably got boxers, man. No. >> And then I let him in the door and she said, "Please help her. Please help her." And then they rushed me outside. That's when I called you. So it's like, >> "Would you call me at 10:52?" >> Yeah. So it's like, "What the hell?" I mean, they accidentally one go off and then she dropped them both and you know what I mean? >> I don't think so. >> Was she moving them and cleaning? Well, that's what I was Maybe >> what they're going to be looking for are powder burns. >> Go ahead. >> No, I mean that's what they're going to be looking for. Go ahead. >> No, not on just you, >> but on her. >> Yeah. >> How close was the weapon? What angle did it have to be? They're going to do a thorough investigation. >> Sure. >> What angle, if the gun hit this way, what angle would the projectile go? >> What angle did it enter the body? >> Sure. >> If it entered from down here, >> that would not be for you. Well, if they if they if if it hit like this and she was standing or whatever, crouched, it'd be angled this way. >> You should never have loading guns in the house. >> Well, not without her safety anyway. That's beside the point. It's over. >> Yeah. They asked, "What do you wish for justice for your wife?" And I looked at him. >> Justice? >> Justice? I was like, "Better gun control?" I mean, >> that has nothing to do with it. >> I mean, you know, that's >> justice. was they were beating you trying to get you to say if you said they'd be >> if you would have said something like oh you know jail or whatever then see then they got problem >> well you and Brandy were good >> I know but she has been depressed a while >> I didn't know that >> she hasn't telling me I thought she was getting better but she has not been telling him >> and he asked why and I says probably because she was afraid you'd blow up she told you that she's been having nightmares lately coming and told me that she's had awful, awful thoughts. And I said, "Brandy, what are those?" And she wouldn't tell me. And she says, "I've been feeling really bad. I have to go talk to somebody. I really, really need to go talk to somebody." And I gave her Barbara's name and the criminal she told me the other day, >> right, is that he had been talking to people online sexually. >> I let it go because everybody has their past. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And I let it go for months ago, though. So I was like, "Okay, whatever. >> Is that why you took her phone away?" >> No, I didn't take her phone away. >> She was having >> She broke her phone. Oh, she did tell me she broke her phone. >> Oh, okay. She did. Okay. All right. Go ahead. >> Yeah. And then we had to get new ones, but the new ones that I got weren't compatible. >> Okay. >> So, I had to get new ones after that. >> Okay. >> And then she had a phone. It was good. >> Continue on. >> Um, but that's about it, you know, and I I let it go. I let it go because Did you tell police this? >> Yes. I told them all that. um had to let it go. I told her everything's going to be all right. Just stop that. You know what I mean? And she right there deleted all the accounts, all all that. So, we're fine. Last night we had a friend Joe over um sex life. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Well, I mean tells me that I know but I mean why would she be doing that in sexual things unless there was you know something like that. >> Well that's why I mean person said that she had a problem with it since he was young. >> Okay. So she had a porn addiction something like that I guess you know and I was like well be who in this world you know. Okay. You know she's like wow you've been cool about it. I was like what am I supposed to do months ago Brandy? I was like, "But thank you." Yes. Very noble. After that, smiling, happy. I mean, last night we had a friend over. >> Maybe that's why she told me she didn't think she was a good person. >> I don't know. She says, "I don't think I'm a good person." And I said, "Why?" And she goes, "I don't know why." She wouldn't tell me. >> And then she said that um she's been having horrible, horrible thoughts and her head's just going like this. >> Well, is that because of the baby? >> I'm thinking maybe it's because of the baby. When was the baby when did the baby die? I don't know. She never told me. >> I know she goes through these cycles once a year where it hits all of a sudden. >> Yeah, but last year I talked her through it. She was fine. But was it this time of the year? I don't remember. Okay. I mean, it could have been. >> And then she says, "I think I have to go talk to somebody." And I says, "Well, please do." And I gave her Barbara's number from the abuse place down here because it's free and family counseling. me know these things >> because I it was only a couple days ago. >> Don't Lori Lori lower. >> I mean, why didn't you let me know these things so we could talk it through? >> Because sometimes women and men want to have confidentiality with you and >> I didn't think it was anything real serious. >> Yeah. >> You know, and maybe that's what she was talking about when she was like, I haven't been a good life. >> Yeah, that's what she >> But I dealt with whatever, you know, I was months ago. You know, it was like I'm going to, you know, flip out on the person who's treated me the best in my whole entire life. I mean, come on, man. >> Then you fought, but you guys got over it and then you were fine. Everybody fights. >> It wasn't a fight. It was more like an argument. We were bigger, you know, to be bigger. >> You did call each other nasty names and stuff like that. >> Nancy said, "Well, I'm worse than gay sometimes." So, you know, >> that's normal, though. I mean, >> not really. That's your way of doing it, I guess. >> I mean, but we weren't like at each other's throat all the time or nothing like that, man. It was just once a very wide we had an argument and we let it the hell go and we're fine. Why don't you go out and call? Cuz they're trying to call. >> I really believe it. I really believe they are. Just Well, if they do, they do. We're not saying anything. You've already told them all of this stuff. >> All right. I'll go and call him and say anything. I don't know. I don't know. >> Yeah, because that's what she told me that one last week. You came over one day. I don't know if it's Monday, Wednesday, Monday, but you only were over there for a little bit, a few minutes, and she sat on the sheat outside, maybe had to pick something up or drop car, I don't know, but you were over there. >> I dropped her off. >> Yeah, >> you were over there. And she sat on the swing, you know, out front on the rocking chairs. And she told me all this >> and I says, "Well, do you want to talk about it? We're here for you if you want to talk about it." And she said, >> "Just let me know when he's done." All right. >> She said, "No. And I said, "You're innocent until proven guilty." I I told you what I knew. Don't say that. I did though. Keep Don't say anything to them. Don't talk to us anymore, Rita, because they're probably listening. I could have just refused to talk to them in the beginning. >> Well, you could have you could have pleaded the fifth of fifth amendment. Say, "I want a lawyer." As soon as you said, "I want a lawyer," they have to stop talking to you. >> But I was being an honest person. Well, sometimes that kick you >> take advantage of you >> because they can they're looking to blame something on something. Not saying that they're trying to frame you or anything. I'm not saying that at all. >> But they're trying to do their job. Okay. >> Maybe sometimes they use some unethical tactics, >> but they're just doing their job. >> Sure. >> Okay. And you and you admit that it is kind of fishy the way she was shot, but you don't know. >> I know. I know. But it does seem suspicious >> now that you even said that. >> Yeah. But >> Okay. But don't say anymore. >> Not if she was suicidal like you said. >> Okay. So, there's nothing more we can do. Uh we'll talk to >> for you. The whole church is praying for you. >> Yes. And we will talk to Ryland and we will tell him what's happening. What? >> Not all of it, but they know enough. They know that there was >> a suicide shooting. That's all they know. >> And they keep on telling me that they'll let me see Ryland and they won't. >> Well, maybe they will after we talk to him, >> you know. >> Maybe they will after we talk to him >> because I'm the closest thing that little boy has. >> I know. I know. But like I said, we talked about this and Keith agrees that he's really not in any in the condition to break the news to him. >> I mean, I would like to as a family. >> Well, maybe they will let us let us do that. I'll ask him. >> You know what I mean? No matter how much you want to say you want to take I know but I know I want to you don't say you don't know ever again talk to yourself quietly in your They won't let us talk. >> All you want is I got to have your word. I'll give you my word. You and I can go talk to him, but we can't tell him what's going on. DCF has to be there when we do it. Okay. And they're not here. Are they listening? I don't know. Just Just hang. We got to We got to go. Want to come back in here? >> I I can't tell you right now. I'll talk to you in a minute. >> All right. Bye. >> Okay. They are going to let us spend some time with them, but I'm not going to tell you that. I promise I would not say anything. >> Don't just leave me alone. >> Huh? Don't just leave me in there. >> I'm not going to leave you there. Ask him if I have. We'll see. We'll spend time. He needs a cigarette. Ask. Okay. All right. Then you still walk me out there. >> Hey, can he need to have a cigarette? >> Okay. >> I know. He's on their phone, right? He has phones in the pocket. Oh my god. Ryland's going with his dad. >> Uh, they have to give him >> They're picking him up. >> Uh, no one else has even tried to come see him. >> They're already been asking. >> And nobody told him. >> Nobody told him. >> Nobody told him. He just said she passed away. That's all. >> Nobody told him. He told the counselor just now. My mommy passed away. >> He's heard something. >> No, nobody. They've been very careful. >> But how do he know? >> I don't know. Maybe he thought because of shots in the police station. >> He's worried about you. >> He is worried about you. >> I know he is. >> And I says, well, don't worry about daddy. He's fine. Are you going to take daddy home? He says, "Well, maybe we will." I said, "But they, you know, they're talking to him. They have to talk to you because of, you know," he says, "Because am I, is he going to go home?" >> I he said something. >> Yeah, he does. And he says that uh what was it he said about uh oh about a game. I said well we can't get your game. Oh man. He said is that because of the yellow tape around the house? >> So he knows. >> He knows. So he's the one that he's she just came out and told us that he told her that mommy has passed away. >> How did he know? >> I don't know. They don't know. >> They don't know. >> Somebody must have said something. But I think he's smart enough and he's seen it on TV. >> You aren't He can't see you. Even in a police station, >> he does watch all that [ __ ] all the time. >> Yes, he probably put it together. >> He just put it all together. He's not He's a smart little guy. >> He knows how to do >> and he's taking it very well. >> He really understands. >> I don't think he I don't think he does. >> Maybe, maybe not. But uh he's he's worried about you. >> I know. But he's not too bad. >> But he's not. When are they going to let my daddy go home? >> Yeah. Are you going to take daddy? >> I don't know. But he says, "Are they are they going to when are you going to take my daddy home?" I says, "Well, they let us take him home." >> I said, "He might have to stay for a little while, but and then they get brought up again because they got asking questions." And yeah, >> he says, "They already been asking me questions. They asked me three times." They say, "Three times they asked me different the same questions." >> I said, "Well, that's fine. He's just trying to find not scared. He's >> No, he's fine. He's taking this like a champ right now anyway. >> Uh, but he's doing he's doing good. So, don't worry about him. >> Well, I am though. I know. >> Don't worry about him. He's going home to have a sleepover, they said, at his daddy's. And >> he wanted to He says, "Well, >> well, that's not the best." >> Well, Daddy and he he said, "Well, daddy said that Kira's going to come and we're going to have to spend a night." And I says, "Well, that's not going to happen." Well, why not? Well, because you know Bri, she made plans and didn't tell everybody. >> Who's that back here? >> Nobody. Because I told Bri. Bri walked over and said Kira says she loves you here. No, when I was at the house. I don't like when all that investigation stuff is going on. >> Oh, maybe Bri called because I told Bri. >> Yeah. Where' she at? She was I couldn't tell. I said I don't know. >> Did you say that they're [ __ ] thinking? We had no idea what was going on at that point. She called Bri right after you left. >> I mean, >> when we were we went home cuz we sat there for 3 hours. Over 3 hours. >> Any of that cuz I know we sat there for 3 hours. >> Proving innocent. >> Why do we do it? >> It's just >> just like they said, just don't don't say anything to us. >> No more. >> Yeah, no more. Just you're just going to have to lay on the table and go to sleep. Yeah, just >> you're just going to have to relax right now, man. >> I know, but you're going to have to relax. You're going to have to be strong. >> Should we leave him the number of the lawyer? >> Uh, >> you guys will deal with that. >> Well, you need to have it, too. >> Why call? >> I got it in my phone. >> I can't call and collect. >> Oh, you got your phone, don't you? >> They won't give it to me. >> Well, you still have a right to make a phone call. Well, you already did. You called me. Well, they haven't charged you with anything. I don't know. I think you should have a right to contact your lawyer. >> All right. You should have a right to contact your lawyer. >> I stay very long. >> Nobody help with your thoughts, you know. No, it's just like you tell the truth and you get scooed, you know. I ate nothing. >> Well, you told him you want something to eat. They got to feed you. I can't hardly even think. >> Well, they gave He was all excited. He gave him a happy. >> He got He what did he get? A little uh what was it? >> One of those >> that little tiger >> tiger thing. >> Yeah. Like a Lego tiger thing. He was all excited about that. He was showing me his yo-yo. He was fine. He We ran over and grabbed me, gave me a big hug and gave grandma a hug. He goes, "Grandma, grandma." I know he wants to see me and I know he does, but it's just they won't let him. Why? I don't know. >> Maybe, you know, maybe it would upset him to see you seeing him because you're going to break down when you see him and that will upset him. You understand that? >> I know. But how everybody's thinking is, you know, it's a process, Keith. It's a process. Well, it you know, think of it this way. If it was the other way around, okay. >> Yeah. >> And and it happened to you. Okay. How do you think that if you were the user them? >> But how would you think? I mean, you would you would think, well, maybe something happened. Maybe the other person did it to him. >> I mean, that's what that is. They thought that comes in your mind. Sure. And how it looks just by by everything that's Yeah. But they they may not even know the facts. We know. >> Yeah. Because we've been here. They have not. >> And it could have been an accident. Maybe she was was moving. >> That's first thing I thought I don't know. forensics hotel keys. >> Cuz why would she have looked at them? That doesn't make sense. >> Because she was moving them. That makes sense. Maybe >> probably getting them out of the drawers for Ryland and put >> No, it wasn't in the drawer. It was in the side of the bed. They're on the It was in the side of the bed. >> I had them both like this. >> Tell them they were in both together. >> Well, they were both Yeah. >> So, they were both on one side. >> Yeah. >> Well, that would make sense. >> Yeah. >> Again, forensics will tell. >> Yeah. It'll it'll it'll I think it'll I'm not I don't know anything about that stuff, but I would think that the angle of whatever that is struck will determine if it was this way or this way. >> Sure. >> If they fell, it would be up. I'm sure that. >> And they already took a test. I didn't shoot no guns. So, >> that's fine. You didn't touch anything in there, did you? >> Not that I'm aware of. >> You didn't touch the guns or anything, did you? >> I mean, last night. Well, that's nice. >> I bring them into the room. >> Well, yeah. Your fingers are princely going to be on there cuz they're yours, of course. >> Yeah. I mean, but the main thing is there's no residue. >> But then you took a shower. But I didn't have time to even use up. >> Doesn't matter. >> Anyway, I mean, I ain't going to talk about that. >> Why would she wait until I took a shower if it was a suicide thing? >> I think it was an accident to be quite honest. >> Me, too. She said she was going to make breakfast. >> Hey boo. You know >> again I said get out of here. >> Did she take that wrong? >> Maybe people snap Keith. >> And maybe she didn't. Maybe she was just doing stuff and she she like you said she tripped and fell. That could be possible especially since that one didn't have a safe. >> I don't know Keith. All I know is the forensics are going to tell. I don't know what the other one that said he was off on. I don't know. Well, again, if you weren't in there, you don't know >> exactly. And they're trying to rack my brain or something. They're doing they're just doing their job, Keith, but they might be going overboard a little bit, but it does look suspicious. >> Sure. Even you admit that. Sure. But, you know, I'm not going to be accused of something that I really didn't do. You know, you don't have any choice about that. If they accuse you, they accuse you. You have no choice. Just keep your mouth just keep your mouth shut and whatnot. You hear me? >> Yeah. >> Keep your mouth shut and stay in good spirits. >> It's hard. >> I know it's hard. Especially when you got to have to do it all. >> And you're tired. >> And you're tired. >> I've been all day. >> They got you. You're fatigued and they're going to try to bring you down. >> Oh, I can break their own. >> Don't say another word. That's all I have to say. They can't really ask you anything now anyway. Um the lawyer said that she was going to try to call back over here again. It's going to see like I heard her say it's probably not going to do any good. They're probably going to put you down for what? By the time they get done, they're keeping you here. Here's what I'm thinking. And you think the same thing. They're keeping you here until they get the surge one and they search everything and they find the pot. >> I don't. It doesn't matter. >> That's why they're keeping charge here so they can charge you. >> Charge me with [ __ ] weed. I don't give a that's going to make a big difference. >> No, it's the lawyer said anything over a certain amount is basically the same unless you got pounds and pounds and pounds of it or something. I don't know. I don't know the law. All I know is you told them they know they have to find it. >> They have They're going to have to find it. What you told is just hearsay. They have to have the physical evidence. >> Once they have the physical evidence, they'll arrest you. >> So be it. Well, >> so what they're doing is they're just trying to say, "You know what? Why do we have to go hunting down?" They're probably They might be afraid you're going to run. >> What the hell for? >> Well, it's just the way they're suspicious. >> We need to get a power of attorney or something and get be able to get money out of your bank. >> Yes, definitely. >> But how are we going to do that if they have your cards? >> My card doesn't in my car. >> It's in the car and we can't in my cell phone. >> Well, you tell him that we want that. You see if they'll give you the keys. It's my car. It's in my >> No, no, no. It's in the truck. >> Oh, in the middle console. >> But if you give us power attorney, we can take that in and we can get your lawyer money out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, they'll figure that out. >> Who's going to bury your brain? >> Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. >> Keith, don't even >> Don't worry. She deserves it. >> I know a good But you know something? Don't Your main concern right now is you. It's my family. >> I know that, Keith. But you can't do anything if you're in here. >> Yeah. So, keep your spirits. Okay. Pray. All right. Continue to do that. One dude said he knows you. The police chaplain. >> Yeah. He knows me. He knows you drive on the airport and all that. He does all that, >> you know. So, anyways, your mom, dad are good people and they're your support group. Yeah. And I was like, "You're lucky." But you stay cop positive. Okay. I know it's not easy, but you got >> They do charge you. You tell them, "I need to write out a power attorney so my mom can be my lawyer." >> Well, your lawyer can do that. Your lawyer will tell the lawyer that >> because, you know, I don't even if they do find it, they can't really. I don't think they can get into your bank account. They might be able to, but I don't think they can. Only the house. >> You can approve the check. It was legit. >> Yeah. It can all be proven. No, it wasn't like that. >> But if they let you go, they might let you go tomorrow. Who knows? >> I don't know. But >> but you know you're going to be charged. You know that for a fact. >> Well, we Yeah. So, go bail me. >> Whatever. Whatever. >> Well, you can't do it without money. You can't bail yourself out. >> Sarah put her whole thousand check in. >> Yeah. >> I'm sure Michelle will find a way to bail me out. >> We'll figure it out somehow. But, you know, until then, you just could have to >> I'd lay on the floor if nothing else. >> Yeah. Just say, "Listen, can I, you know, let me know what's going on? Can I sit on the couch or something?" Where you going to go in here? >> The door's not locked. >> No, I think I'm doing a letter. I mean, I just curl up and lay in the floor. Just say, "Can I get a pill or something? Tell me you're hungry." >> And they got to feed you. >> I mean, I don't even know if I have one I ain't got one charge to my name in ever. >> I know. They know that. So, >> well, the only thing you have is that that restraining order, and your lawyer knows all about it. Oh, well that she was an idiot. >> It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. >> Yeah, she was crazy. >> Well, it doesn't matter. That's not violent. >> No, I've never been violent ever. >> You know >> that that doesn't mean anything. Everybody's capable of violence. >> Sure. >> Everybody's capable of snapping. >> Sure, but that quick. >> Come on, man. >> Again, I'm just being a kid, you know. >> I would shoot my wife. I wouldn't think so. I mean, who the hell does that? Some people do. >> Yeah, I got you. But like, who the, you know, but you with your even just your demeanor shows that >> I wish they thought the same thing as you. >> They're doing their job, Keith. >> I mean, think of it that way. They're doing their job to make sure that all the tees are crossed and the eyes are dotted. Okay. >> They haven't night hours. >> They break. It's a weekend. Number one, it is a weekend. And number two, they're waiting for the last thing I did. It's like, go ahead, take a maybe, >> you know, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. >> Go ahead. >> But for right now, just shut up. >> Do as your lawyer tells you to do. >> I'm not saying anything that I haven't told them. So, >> don't even say anything like that. She >> I have nothing to say. >> I've told you everything I got to say. I'm I'm >> I'm done. I'm done. You didn't talk to my lawyer? >> Does his dad know his gone? >> Yes. >> Did he lost? >> Did you talk to his dad? >> No. No. >> He's going to be here soon. I don't even know what he looks like. >> Well, how all of the papers and [ __ ] are looking, man? Is >> I don't know. Did they try to make me look out to be something? >> No, not really. They jerk from Black Life and all the papers. >> You remember what the lawyer said? >> I said that's even this cop said the same thing. That's not good. think that person is wrong. >> What he does is he listen to police scanners. He goes there and shows up and does >> what a scumbag. >> And all he did was talk to me. I walked by the car and he roll the window down like, >> you know, he looked at me. He says, "How you how are you?" And I says, "This is going to be inspected." He said, "Do you want to say something to me?" >> Yeah. >> And I said, "No." And I said, >> "No." >> He goes, "Okay." He said, "I respect that." I says, "Please respect our privacy." Sure. >> And I walked away. >> You know, the neighbors probably think I did something. >> No, no. The neighbors aren't supporting support of you. >> Good. >> The ones that I talked to, there was the one guy over there with a dog like a pitbull or whatever. He says, "We're a we're we're a neighborhood here. We look out for each other. You know, Keith's a good guy. We, you know, we want the best for him and >> that's all we are. That's all we want." That one guy was a jerk, but that was okay. >> I apologize to him cuz I was really stressed. The dude that's right next door. >> No, down at >> No. Across the street next door to the one. >> And we've had problems with him in our yard. >> No, no, no, no. There was a guy came up from the next block. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Drunk. >> Drunk. It seemed like he was drunk or weird. Anyway, he come up. >> No. White with white hair. >> And he asked, he says, "Well, what's going on?" He said, and the cop says, "Well, this is a personal issue." He goes, "Well, what's going on? I live right over there." And I said, "Sir, this is personal. You know, it's time to move along." Yeah, >> just leave us be. This is a personal issue. And he just kind of he almost said something else and I yelled my tongue, >> but he sashied away. >> And I also told him how the cop was very rude to you. >> He was and I told him that >> he would they wouldn't even let me come over. >> I don't know. >> They said, "No, you cannot go over there. You have to stay away from him." >> And I just went and I talked to >> go to your vehicle and see >> I just walked up to his mother. I just walked up to I just walked up to the guy and I said and he says, "Uh, who are you?" And I says, "Well, Keith is my son >> and I'd like to talk to him. I want to be let him know that I'm here to support him even if I can't talk to him at least, you know." >> And he said, and the cop says, "Well, he's not charged with anything. He's not under arrest." I said, "Well, can I talk to him?" And he goes, "Well," said the door's open. >> Yeah. He knew that I needed somebody. So I just walked there. >> Refused to let me come. They say all you girls, all you people need to get in your cars. >> Because Michelle tried to walk to me and she said, "What happened?" And I said, "She come." So I he let me come over. >> Can't break him. He He couldn't handle it. I know. >> I know. He's falling. >> He's He's really a mask. He's >> He's worried about drunker and [ __ ] >> He's worried about me, too. >> I know. We all are. We're worried about Ryland, too, you know. But Ryland's being a trooper. Got to give him credit. But how the hell did he know? He figured it out. >> And now he's worried about me cuz I know she is too. >> He's with the [ __ ] or she's with knows that she's okay. But now she's worried about me, too. And that's why. >> But you know something? It's weird that he knows. Part of it is just being very smart and putting all the pieces to the puzzle together. >> Or he might have heard me in the EMT. >> No, he didn't hear anything. You know, he heard nothing. And no one said that she was >> No one said that she was he just came out and said I don't >> I didn't even know until I was already >> Well, you knew, but >> Well, I knew, but not for sure. Not around him. >> No, no one said anything to him. >> He gave me a big hug and stuff. >> Yes, sir. Can I talk to you real quick? >> Yeah. >> Both of us? >> Just you? >> Okay. A big hug, you know. He's fine. He really is. >> That's good. That's real good. >> If they ask you anything, just say, "I'm done talking. I'm already just keep doing it over and over and over. How much [ __ ] money it cost?" >> I know. I know you. >> It's like you're not a violent person. It's like, man. >> Hello. >> Uhhuh. You want to talk to Keith? >> Okay. >> Hello, man. >> Okay. Miller is not determined. >> No, it's me. Uh, it's me. I'm me. Who's that? >> She's talking to the attorney. >> Yes. >> Oh, okay. He's talking to attorney. >> Yes. My name is Keith. I don't have anything further to say. I've already told you guys what I have to say three times. I'm not repeating myself. >> Now, is this Miranda number two? That's Yeah, that's >> No, Maria, too. >> That's both of them. But they work together. So, okay. So, basically, >> they're going to take that away from you anyway. >> They won't. I can't. Excuse me. >> Well, they're going to take your jeans. >> Well, if I have to Oh, because my finger. >> It's your blood that can be proven. >> Get the [ __ ] out of here, man. >> Look at this. I've had this for last till since last Sunday on Easter. >> Only reason why >> Kathy's Walker, you know that little like thing that comes out the side? It went like this right down in my hand and then it went into a soda bottle, A&W root beer bottle, and it went all over my car. Only reason why they want my clothes is because guess what? That's fine. There's no gunpowder cuz I didn't do nothing. You know, that's that's the shittiest part of the situation, man. I have enough to deal with and then try. You know what I mean? Just start praying. >> This shit's ridiculous. I mean, how long am I going to be here? >> Till 5 or 6 in the morning. They're going to try to break you down. And then what? What? What about >> Well, you don't you're not going to have to just stay like that. As long as your back will handle it. >> Yeah. >> I mean, that's why the rooms are so little, cuz they're hoping you're claustrophobic. I mean, [ __ ] I'd rather be in jail. My lawyer's pretty good though, huh? He's a pretty good guy. the only one we could get a hold of. The only one that had to answer the phone on a Saturday. I mean, it's just it's nuts. Like, well, cuz when we saw that thing on Live, I said, and then they wouldn't release you when they should have. We said, "No, we're going to have to we're going to call somebody." Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Because uh this is ridiculous, man. And they had to have $1,000 down. >> And Sarah said, "I'll pay it." Um, they are going to make up a power of attorney for you right now. That's what they're doing. They're making up a power of attorney. So, you can get my bank and just to just get it all out cuz I $29,000 in there. There should have been 40. I had everything. I don't care. I don't care. Mom, you guys should have saved some money. I mean, we just got this, we just got that. >> I know, but you should have said >> we got to do the wedding. And >> I know Britney said you just got a bow tie and just for your wedding, >> you know, another you're your official. >> How do they feel? >> Broncase. Gary's really upset. >> She says, "I know we've had our differences, but he's my brother and and what they're doing to him is bullshit." They're just trying to tell me, but I did something I didn't do. >> Then don't say it, Lord. Because the more you say, the more they can twist. >> Yeah. Well, they can twist themselves in or not because it's not going to admit something that's not the truth. >> They're going to try to make you. >> They can do all they want. >> Don't listen to I'm not going to say no, so that's not that cost me a [ __ ] fortune. Oh, because someone made a bad decision or because an accident. Man, this is ridiculous. >> I think that I think she probably was going to take him and put them up or do something with them and she tripped and fell like you said. >> I don't know though. >> I know. Nobody knows. >> Like it's nuts. >> Nobody knows what happened, but something happened. I should have just had her come in the shower with me like I regularly would, you know. Yeah. Just you can't say should have, would have cuz I I I do that and say I should have talked to her more that day. She was depressed. I should have talked to her. I should have talked to her. I should have talked to her. >> But nobody let me know about it. That's the thing. >> That's what you know. >> But I didn't know you know. And she told me she I told her I'd give her give the number to, you know, >> I've gotten nauseous. I've gotten real nauseous, man. Cuz it's like just thinking about, you know, she's really gone and and all that. I I just I It comes and goes. You know what I mean? >> I know you're numb. Like I'll get nauseous and then I'll I'll sweat a lot and then I'll be like and then I'll be like I got to get strong and then I just rest my head on that pill that Kleenex box. >> It's ridiculous, man. >> And just lay down. >> Oh, God. This is just nuts. Nuts. to the credit and I was like honest, you know, that's just crazy, man. >> No, I know you didn't do it. >> I do, but a lot of people go for something. >> No, we're just praying for you. You've got a lot of people in prison. You didn't do anything wrong. I know that for a fact. >> No, I just the rest I push the rest of the world in that. >> They will. Like I can't live here no more, man. >> Keep thinking positive. I definitely can't go back to that house and live. >> No, but he's going to have to give you that money back. >> I definitely can't for a year. He's going to have to give you the money back. >> I mean, you give him 30 days, he's got to give you the rest of the money back. And if he spend it, he's in trouble. >> I mean, I'm going to probably Nazi violent no more, you know. And that's going to tell you right on part two. He can't leave. He can't lose. >> Don't even think of all that stuff. >> It's just going to get you depressed. Just don't you can't lose both parents. Daddy's really got you. I know. I take just try to get some sleep. >> Relax and try to get some sleep as much as you can. That's crazy. I wish I wish I knew the real story, you know. I don't think she did it up because I think she fell cuz if she wasn't upset in the morning, I think she she probably was going to move him and she fell. >> Yeah. I said, "Ah, go away. But she did she take that? >> She could have. In her frame of mind, you never know. >> Well, I didn't know what frame of mind she is cuz no one said nothing to me. >> Not even her, you know. >> Mhm. >> And she had no reason to be depressed because we let that [ __ ] go, man. you know, and it's and I'm fortunate, man. And I don't know how to deal with this. Nobody does. >> I mean, but all you have to keep remember is you pray and you trust God to help you. >> I do trust God. >> I'm saying you pray about it and trust God to protect you and help you. Mhm. >> And keep your mind focused on that. >> And they were like, "Was on any other drugs?" And I was like, "No, not that I know of." I mean, she was hiding [ __ ] from me. I mean, I don't know. I do not know. And it's it's crazy, man. So, I know sh he's protecting me and all, but but you know, it's like I still think it was an accident. >> I really do. >> She was in the bedroom and she was going to move the guns back out of the bedroom >> or whatever. >> Or wherever you kept them. Mhm. >> I could see her doing that and tripping and falling and >> maybe one went off and then it hit the floor and another one went off. >> Yeah, cuz when she fell when it hit the floor. >> Yeah. And of course only my prints are on the damn the actual shells. Of course. Of course my prints are on it. >> You load it, dude. >> Yeah. just too weak. You know, I mean, it's just it don't make all of it don't make sense to me, you know? That's crazy. Did Ryland know you were in the shower? >> Yeah, but he he had to. It was so loud. You know, it's right next to the room. I mean, I walk out soaking wet. Would >> you have paid attention watching TV? >> I don't know. I don't know. It's just It's just I don't I don't know how to process this. I want to go home and grieve, man. >> I know you do. You need to be with your family right now. >> I know. I can understand that. >> They don't care. >> You know, just think I've had enough to go through. I mean, my whole family split up. Your whole world apart. >> You have no idea. It's going to take me a long time. A really long time. I >> my dad said I can stay with you guys for a while. So >> now where? >> I don't care. >> We'll find room. >> All I know is I can't go back to that house yet. >> Well, of course not. >> I can't I'll break down. >> No, of course not. Nobody would expect you to, you know. I'm going down. And uh you know it's just crazy. >> I know it's hard to wrap your head around. >> It's like it's a bad bad nightmare, you know? >> I know. >> And I never thought I was going to be in this situation ever. Like >> no. Who would >> not that kind of person? >> It's crazy, you know? And it's just like [ __ ] But my lawyer said that they're on my side and you know, at least they believe me. Well, it's their job, too, I guess. But, you know, it's like I'm not going to be locked away for something I didn't do. That's [ __ ] man. Is there drugs going to take you down? You know that we >> and that other thing weed that is still the weed brain said you had bra weed. Each one of that is a building. It's weed. I told you that I hold you once. Well, it's more for her, you know. to keep her head right and all that stuff. CBD worked, I guess. Well, it destressed her because when she was high, she was happy. Yeah. Most of the time what the hell that does any of my DNA for? to see if there's any of it on here. Of course, there's love or on the gun or your DNA would be in the gun. That's just stupid. So, you know, I let God take care of it. I know that I didn't keep repeating this. No weapon formed against me shall prosper. Remember that and say it over and over and over. It's just I don't know what to do. I just need to go to sleep is what you need to do. I just want to go and, you know, sleep and grieve, you know. It's it's something that I definitely experience. It's something that no one should have to go through. No, >> they don't care. But that is unfortunate once the forensics are done. >> Sure. >> But how long did that take? It seems like this whole process stinks forever. A detective was supposed to tell to come and talk to me and Gary. >> And we waited for 3 or 4 hours. >> Jesus. >> And we finally said, "Hey, I have to bathroom. I'm just I'm thirsty. Can we go home?" >> I forgot. >> Who was with you there? >> Just me and your dad. >> No, I had them tired or something. >> No, they all left. And Braden finally took his your dad's car back. >> How's Michelle taking it? >> Everybody. Michelle flew out the door cuz I was at her house when you called. >> Mhm. >> Picking up heaven for work. Gotcha. And Brad goes, "What?" He just And the shell's running around. Brain's running around. And they get in the car and they called Sarah and Sarah says, "You've got to come and get me. You've got to come and get me." So I went down her and then I went straight over there. >> You were there before that. Michelle was there for anybody >> because she was at the house. I was at her house. I pulled out >> and she flew down the street. >> How did she even know you called her? >> I told you I was at her house and she called Carrie on the way. >> That's why Carrie called me. She was like, "Do you need me?" I was like, "Come here now." But >> yeah, she was closest. >> Yeah. But then Siri says, "You got to come and get me. You got to come and get me." So I stopped by the house. >> Yeah. Carrie was there. So I came to the house and and uh was even her out. >> H the street on my back? >> Yes. And I know I know Michelle's don't bring I feel it's best. I'm the only one he's got left that was his a buddy. And like this flag girl wife said, "Oh, there used to be a girl going in and out, but we haven't seen her in a while either." And there was another boy that was going in and out. We haven't seen him either. Like what the hell? They're talking about Braden and they're talking about Joanna and he was over last night. I'm tired. You're tired. >> I know. You have to be exhausted. >> Sarah's just drunk. So, she's going to be coming. Who you call Brady? >> Not here. >> Mhm. >> Not here. >> What? >> Cuz he do that. Could be down >> cuz we had Oh [ __ ] They won't even give me back. Well, I This is crazy. Can you take one of these down there, Christian? Lay your head on me. I'm trying to go to my own entire for what? I wish you would listen to us. But for I wish you would listen to us. You call one of the guy. >> Oh god, I'm stiff. Very, very stiff. You are. >> Get up and walk around. >> What the hell? This is my house for Oh, feels better. >> Hello. >> I just wanted to >> I'm fine. >> I'm about to sleep on the floor. We are to >> Okay.com. >> Okay. >> We're going to get that. If you have a phone, are we going to communicate that to Gary to rent that out? >> Well, he's going to come back. He's just getting his clothes and he's going to come back. >> I don't want to take my clothes, >> right? But I mean, this would be an ideal time to get it notorized because there's got to be a notary there and two witnesses. >> I don't >> Hello. A lawyer just called you. She wanted your email. >> Okay. >> Because we're trying to get a power of attorney so we can get Keith's money out to pay the lawyer. And um she tried Michelle too and then we got disconnected. So um if airport. >> Your dad's phone's here. She wanted it signed while we were here and somebody's going to have to print it and bring it over so we can have a notary. But >> now bring it over. >> That's what she wants. But I tried Michelle and I don't know if Michelle has ink or if she answered cuz we got disconnected. Well, I have agent. I can print it out, but I can't bring it over because she's gone with my man and god. We don't really >> Well, let me She might even be talking to Michelle, but I'll try to call Michelle and find out. >> I love her. >> And my little one's got ink. >> Her ink dried up on me. >> Yeah, so did ours. If I have to drive over, I could >> tell her it's it's >> Yeah, but um if she can email it to you and tell her I love her, >> then I could have Gary maybe if I can catch him before he comes here, stop by and get it. >> Okay. Well, then you have my email, don't you? No, I don't know what your email is. >> Well, then write it down. >> I can't. I don't have a pen. >> Where are you at? >> Hang on. She's on the line. Hello. >> DNA. >> Something bugs me though. Ryland said he heard a scream and then two pops. Did anybody check Ryland for residue? Maybe he touched one of them >> one. Maybe he he played with the guns. >> But it was impossible. >> I was in the goddamn shower. He knew she was dead. >> No one told her. I told the officer. And the officer said, "Well, his dad told him that she was that he was shot or that she was shot." No, he knew that anyway. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He says, "You want to pursue this?" And I says, "Well, got to do that." >> Yes. I >> It's up to you, Keith. Do you want to pursue? >> You could have been playing with the guns. >> Cuz he's thinking pretty cool. Just in case. >> Yeah. >> Cover all your bases just in case. But that's up to you. >> Yes. Just in case. >> Because he would he didn't think, >> but he could have been playing with the guns and he could have shot her. >> He said he heard a scream. But there was no scream, but I couldn't hear it anyway cuz I was in the shower. He said he heard the officer told us that, didn't he? He told us that he heard a scream and if he heard a scream and then two pops, he thought he heard a scream and then two pops. >> Okay. My mom's passed away. >> Maybe he thought he heard a scream and he came in there trying to protect her. >> I don't I'm not going to I don't know. Maybe she saw a bug and she went >> out. Listen to what I'm saying. >> I know that's up to you, but I think you need to cover all the blame. No, buddy. >> Of course not. >> But I'm not going to blame myself. >> He should be checked. >> But he shouldn't be checked. He's here. I just saw him. I He was down there. >> Grandma, he jumped in my arms immediately. >> You better have him checked. >> The cop says, "Do you want to go there?" And I says, "Well, let me talk to you." So you need to tell him if you want him to proceed on a whole basis >> cuz kids that could be like how could he father I'll talk to >> He can't talk to him. >> Oh, you can't talk to him. Oh, okay. But I can speak for him. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. I got >> Wait for me. Okay. >> It could be possible. >> I wouldn't think so. Oh. Oh man. >> It could be possible, Keith, because he didn't know. He was probably playing around with them. Didn't think they were loaded. >> But when I But when I seen him, he was laying in his bed where he was. >> Well, yeah. If he sees your mom falling on the floor, he's going to go back to his room. He's not going to stay there. >> I mean, it's possible, but I doubt it. >> I really doubt it. >> Why did he say heard a scream? He didn't. How did he know? Nobody told him. >> Only the thing that he could have heard is me yelling, "Call 91 on anybody." You know, cuz that's just a reaction what you do. You know what I mean? Call 911 on anybody. He said he heard two pops after scream and then two pops. That makes no sense because I was in the shower and she was in the room. She just popped her head through it. >> I don't know, but it's possible. >> So, they are going to release me. >> No, she said they were going to let you go, but they didn't know when. And they said tomorrow. They're going to finish the investigation or something or whatever. And then they might rearrest you tomorrow. >> Oh, well. >> But she I said, "Well, I said, "Well, when are they going to release him?" And she says, "I don't know." No, just two days on. They're going to have to take my clothes and then they're not going to leave me. I just want to go. >> How did Riley know that she was dead? Nobody told her. We were told when we went out he could not mention her death. We could not we can just say that she was at the hospital. >> Did he see the blanket over her when they took her out? I didn't even see her being taken out. >> They didn't. She's still there. So, how that's what we're saying. How did he know? >> Unless she told him from heaven. >> No, she didn't. He cuz he said my mom passed away just like that. And he's being all calm. >> How does she know? >> I don't know. Nobody has. We were told that if we even I wanted to tell him for a long time. >> Even if we even said a word that we were going to have to leave. I wanted to tell him myself. Nobody told him. That's my point. Nobody has spoke to him. The the DCF officer was sitting in a room with a bunch of toys and a TV in there. She never told him. Nobody's told him. >> And the DC officers came back out when she was going to place them. And she says he's already told me my mom passed away. How? I don't know. >> Wow, man. So, basically, I'll have I can't go to the crime scene. So, we'll have to go to my bank in the morning. We'll have to go to my bank and I'm just going to take it all out. >> She says he's already talked to the officer about um getting money out. >> What she did? >> Oh, about how how we're going to go about that. >> So, you may be able to get your card or something. Yeah, it's in my truck. Beep beep. That's it. You know, so maybe he'll tell them, radio them up there, you know, so I can at least get my car and get, you know, whatever I need to get. If they arrest me on pop, they rest me on pot. >> Yeah, >> it's not a big deal. It's really not. But now I got to go home. I was going to be then. >> Huh? >> If you have a large amount that's intent, it's on one. It's on two things. It's only like a quarter round. It's not any had. I don't know. But that's that could be a possibility cuz I don't know how he knew. I nobody said a word to him. I kept everything away from him and he was in the squad car in front of me when my child looked at me. I said, nobody told him. Nobody. He told somebody earlier that his mom got shot and the ambulance took her to the hospital. >> Mhm. >> Now, why did he say that my mom's dead? >> I don't know. Because he has not been around anybody. >> I know. He hasn't been around nobody. >> I mean, and the officer >> and Gary goes, "How did he know that?" >> And the officer wouldn't let me tell him. I wanted to tell him a couple times, you know, because I think >> they were last. I think it should come from me. You know what I mean? That's what I wanted. >> He he says, "When when can Keith go home?" And he and he told And then the DCF worker came in and he told her that my mom passed away. How the hell? I don't know. That makes no sense. A lot of this don't make no sense, Mom. I really don't. You know, I'm going to go to your house. I'm going to eat, you know, cry with you guys if if it's at a reasonable time. >> It don't matter. You just stay here until I'm gone. I mean, it's I got to change clothes, man. I mean, it's just I don't know how to move on with life. I know it's going to be hard. >> I'm going to be really [ __ ] up for a long time. >> Cuz she was good for you and you were good for her cuz you understood each other. >> I'm going to be really messed up for a long time. So I know. >> Just just bear with me. >> But don't blow up. >> It's hard not to. >> I know. But if you blow up then it it just makes it worse. It's okay to accept. >> Have you ever lost the love of your life? Every time you get may I and you drink and you blow up >> and there's so many things that I regret that I didn't say grief counsel. >> Oh, so many things I regret I didn't say. If I would have known, if I would have known there's so many things, you know, I would have said, "Oh, come on." You know, now I know I would have said I wouldn't have said go away. Keith, if you didn't know and you didn't Did you say go away meanly? Well, then always always watch what you say to people. >> Yeah, >> I know. You never know when it's going to be the last time. I'm worried about I just wish there you should have told her to come in the shower, but that's here. Like Sarah said, I should have told I should have not cancelled on Wednesday night. I should have called I should have went anyway and I should have, you know, talked to her and she's beating herself up a bit about that, too. And you know, there's nothing you could have done. You like me, I I could have talked to her. I didn't know. >> I talked to Pastor Mike >> or Jeff. >> Mike's I'm closer to He's younger. Oh, Jeff. Whatever. They both have five kids and they're both in their 50s. This is crazy, man. I have to go through this. I know he we love Brandy like a daughter. I mean, she was good for you. You were good for her. You understood her and she understood you. >> I will never marry again. That's it for me. >> That will come in time. >> That's completely it for me. >> I know. And you you just guys just got your >> I'll never be close to somebody again. You just got just got your wedding that your official wedding. I will never be close to anybody either. I'm afraid this is going to ruin your mom. >> That's not you. You You can pull yourself up. You start going to church. God will lift you up. Then your family's going to believe in you. not going to move out of the state out of the town or something. I would not care. I'm sure I real when this is all over with. I can strongly consider can always move up with Michael. >> I don't know. We can afford to move. Or you can move to Iowa with Sarah cuz she's probably going to go. >> I I don't know, Mom. I don't know. Where' it go? >> You got it on your lip. >> I don't give a [ __ ] >> Well, I know, but I don't know where to go from here. >> I know you don't. It's going to be a long haul. I couldn't believe it even happened. >> You couldn't imagine reacting to that. See? Well, the worst part I love you. The worst part is her eyes and she couldn't say anything. >> That was the worst part of it all is I couldn't help her. >> Yeah, I bet it was. It's hard to see and you're going to remember that forever. I need my family more than anybody. >> I know every single everybody is there for you, Keith. We know you can do this. You're not that type of person. >> I know. It's just I don't know how I'm going to live life and handle it afterwards. He's so lonely. God's going to be there and he's going to lift you up and he's going to take care of you. He will. It's the only one that actually truly got along and love her. And I'm not going to find that again. >> No, you won't. >> No, I don't want to. That was his sister. Who's Gary? Audrey. Okay, he's probably right. I'm not going to >> I can't help me. And Crystal is like [ __ ] >> Well, she's about to lose her. >> I helped her. She's got to go to um >> and then she's already went to court. They wanted me to put $5,000 up the bond out scooter. I got my own [ __ ] >> $5,000 for what? >> The bond out scooter. >> No way. You gave her $480 to pay her [ __ ] and to get her phone back on. What else do you want from me, man? I ain't made it mine. I mean, I could bury my wife, >> which I don't even know if I can go to the funeral. was not ready to lose her kids because the judge she already had to go to court and the judge um said that he would let her know in a week or two what his decision was. My dad ain't going to take home my gun themselves at all. I want nobody in the family to even [ __ ] have one at all. You don't need to be around a gun anyway either. I just don't want nobody in the family to have one [ __ ] like that. You can go into deep depression. For one thing, you don't leave them on your I'm not let go. They were in your bed. Brian apparently knew where they were. I don't know if he did or not. I don't know what happened. And that's the whole thing of it all. And only she knows. She can't tell us. Wish you could tell me. Uh, >> I'm just like, "No, I just I don't have any cuz I'm just like, no." >> You're numb. >> And you're breaking down. At least you're getting it out. I haven't >> I haven't even been able to do it because I My mind is just My dad didn't really help me out. on the way to your house. I need to see Braden if he needs me. I just hope they don't wake up for 9:00 in the morning, Mom. I know. I mean, he's over there almost every day. cuz your dad's got a point. How did Ryland know? Like how blame a little kid? >> Of course not. But it wouldn't He didn't do it on purpose. If he did, I think he was just if he did, he was playing with him and he went in there and went pow pow and went, "Oh my god." He knows better than to touch him. No. Things have happened, Keith. And he's really calm. >> But he really if he knew his mom's dead, why wouldn't he be upset and crying? He is so calm. >> I don't think he grasps the concept of it. He said my mom passed away. That's what he told the social worker. >> But did somebody along the way say something new? He's way back here in the hallway in a little room like Well, it's bigger than this one with toys and stuff and a TV. Yeah. But I can't even imagine what her parents think. >> And he was only in a towel. He had a blanket wrapped around him. >> Yeah. >> And underwear, I think. >> Yeah. Yeah, because or something. >> Yeah, he just woke up not too long ago. I don't know when he woke up because I wasn't up yet. I mean, this is nuts. This is just nuts. Maybe he didn't do it. And I don't know what happened. Maybe Randy felt All I know is none of us know. All I know is I didn't do it. And it's as far as I have enough to deal with [ __ ] trying to say this and that and detain me and like what the hell is wrong with them, man? Obviously, they haven't had someone that close to their husband or wife that something like that happened because it's hard to do it because you don't know what happened. I don't and I wish I did to give me some closure, you know, and her mom is probably like, you know how she's a [ __ ] like me because I had guns in mouth. I guarantee they locked up because we always keep two. One for me, one for her. We always keep two. >> Only at night. Yeah. Yeah. In the daytime, we really didn't, you know, much care. I just woke up. I just got into the shower. I wish she could have spoke because I'm pretty sure she would have said something to me, you know? But who knows? Then when her eyes roll back on him, no. He said that uh R's dad's picked him up. Yeah. I say in the hallway. Yeah, grandpa. You know, uh he said that I don't think they're going to do any any residue. Uh, but they will test the gun. >> Okay. >> Uh, and uh for DNA. >> Sure. Well, mine's going to be on there anyway. >> Well, I understand. But if there's anybody other than hers and yours. >> Okay. >> Uh, if if someone else is on there, then they'll go a different avenue. Um, I don't know. Huh? >> I don't know. I don't know, Keith. But it looked like you had something to say. >> I I I don't know what to say. >> No, he was saying, >> you know, I mean, >> he says, >> I said, you know, I know, but I mean there are things that that are very suspicious and you admit that. Sure. >> But he said there unless he was remembering when I was screaming afterwards to call 911. >> I don't know. That's that's kind of mood at this point. Uh they are going to let you go. They're going to do your once they do your execute this secure or your clothes take your clothes. >> Uh they are going to take your clothes and uh uh once and they're going to then they're going to call at the other one cuz they're executing that right now. >> Okay. >> At the house. Okay. >> And they're going to let you go now. >> I got to stay at your house, right? >> No. You can't go back there. Yeah. >> They said you would stay at our house. >> Of course I will. And you know, he says, "Well, you know, uh they don't really they can't they don't really have any enough >> enough to charge you with anything at this point." >> Sure. >> Well, cuz I didn't. But that doesn't mean they won't. >> Sure. Uh >> I don't know what happened. I mean, the only thing that they're charging me with is being stupid and leaving it out. I I I don't know, Keith. I have >> It wasn't out. It was in your bed. >> Yeah, exactly. >> All I know is it's a horrible situation. There's no easy answer. >> He says, >> "And whatever the truth may be, it will come out." >> Sure. >> Well, whatever the truth may be, it will come out. >> I wish I knew. >> The forensics will prove everything. >> Yeah. >> Without a shadow of a doubt. >> Sure. >> Whether you you did it or Now listen, I'm just You know what we're talking about. But I told you this before. I know you can't rule anything out. Whether you did it, someone else did it, or it was an accident. >> The forensics will tell it. >> Okay. And that's all we can say at this point. >> Sure. >> Is that the forensics will prove it? >> I know Keith goes. I don't know, Keith, but I should have never I should have told her to get in shower with that. >> Well, should have, could have, would have. Doesn't make any difference at this point, Keith. And I said, you didn't say it rudely. He said, I didn't say it rudely. I just said, uh, you know, >> I know, but you know, I mean, that sounds kind of weird, too. You know, you do that and that, then she goes out and commits suicide. That doesn't make sense either. >> I know. I'm getting, you know, none of this makes sense. any of it. I just wish I knew. Well, you know, all I can say, Keith, is whatever happens, we love you and we'll always stick behind you. Whatever happened that is what happened. >> Well, I I'm taking your word. I'm not saying you're lying. I want you to know that we love you no matter what. >> I mean, I spent >> People make mistakes. I spent some time for, >> you know, leaving the gun out or I don't know, >> whatever. But they're going to cut you loose. I don't know. Unless they find something at the house that they can charge you with. I don't know. I have no idea. >> I don't know when. >> Yeah. >> What? >> I don't know when. >> Once they get your clothes and they and they Well, he's going to do that. Then they're once he gets you closed and everything, then they're going he's going to call the other the other investigation and then you're you're going to cut you loose if if there's no you know always if and I've been here so long. I just said what I just want to go home cry and go to sleep. I'm tired. >> I do. I don't know, Keith. You don't know. >> He's really upset. He broke down a couple times. >> You ain't the one that's being questioned. You ain't >> a lost line, Lord. Keith, I know. I can't imagine what you're going through. >> You don't want to. I don't want to. It's like it's a really bad nightmare. What's that? >> Christopher, your sister called, but I didn't even answer. >> We need to get her um right away morning. We need to get all my money out of the bank. >> Can't all of it? >> No, you can't get it all out. You can only get so much. >> That's a Sunday. >> It's Sunday or I can you can Well, you know why? If you do that, >> they already got power of attorney that the um that's what you have to email it to people right now for what? >> She already emailed it to your phone >> for us. Yeah, it's going to cost me a lot. >> She already emailed it to your phone. >> Okay. >> She wanted to get it signed here, but we we don't have a printer. I don't know if they'll do it. >> But Michelle is a notary >> cuz it has to be >> family. >> She says it's got to be notorized. >> I understand. Why can't you do something? There's other people are notaries, you know. I think one of the pastors is a notary as well. You know what? Probably maybe right now it's just kind of hurry up and wait. I can starve. You should have told me want something to eat. At the point when they had asked me, I was just too I was too upset, you know. Why won't they let me see Ryan? >> Because he was at the scene. So >> have to keep you two separated. >> Yeah. >> And why would Ryland said he heard somebody scream? >> He says I thought he did. >> That doesn't mean I don't see these guys said for a fact he said it. >> Well, maybe he did. I was like, I don't know. I didn't hear it, man. I don't know. Like I said, the only way this is all going to be going is by the forensics. >> Yeah. >> If they charge you with something, a trial. Yeah. And they got to prove it. >> Yeah. You don't have to prove anything. They have to prove that if they charge you with murder, whatever, they have to prove that you actually did it. >> Why didn't you do anything? This is just crazy. Okay. You know, I believe you. This is just you're my son and I believe you. >> But you never know what's going to happen. I hardly even stick up for myself. Are you kidding me? I let some little girl beat me up in my last marriage. Are you kidding me? >> You know. >> Yeah. >> You guys raised me better than that. Somebody's never going to have money. A lot of people that are raised like that still undo things. People snap. >> Didn't snap. I didn't say you did. I didn't say you did. And I'm not accusing you of anything. I was trying to have a good day. I was going to take Ryland out and we were going to have a real good day. Because last night me and her talked about it. She's like, "So, what do you want to do tomorrow?" I was like, "Let's go have a bunch of fun with Ryland. He deserves it. He was good all week. [ __ ] If I would have known, man, I would have at least had a lot of a lot of things to her, you know. Yeah, we all feel that way, Keith. When someone passes away, >> I wish I would have passed. You can't >> I wish I would have jump with me, you know, >> I could have saved her life. Maybe, but then it might have happened the day after that or later in the day. Yeah. But I just don't understand why she would try to move them. Keith, all they're going to do is hand her. >> No, I don't think so. They're going to wait for the gun with the DNA. And I can see why I traumatize them by doing the DNA will be on a gun. >> Anybody that touched that gun on it? >> He only was >> When was the last time you cleaned it? >> Long time. My DNA is probably on it, too. >> Well, it's been a while. >> You were at work. That doesn't mean my DNA won't be on there. They're not taking it, but they'll have to figure out who it is. >> That brain didn't mean you >> They're looking for yours and hers, >> of course. >> You know, and of course you handle the gun, so yours is going to be on there. >> Of course, >> hers is going to be on there, >> of course. >> But if there's someone else is on there, that's when they got to the suspect. >> Look further. Not a suspect, but they just have to figure out who it is. >> Yeah. and go from there. You know, things happen. Children do things sometimes. I'm not saying he did. I'm not saying he didn't. >> I wouldn't think so, though. >> I'm staying completely objective about this cuz I don't know. >> But it has happened. >> Yes, it has. The chances of that happening are extremely rare and highly unlikely to do this. >> I don't know where I try to make freeze to death. It's just it's a lot to do with it. Who knows? They might come and arrest you tomorrow or something. Who knows? >> So be it. >> I mean, I'm just saying, you know, we don't know. >> I'm innocent. So you're not going to run, are you? >> Yeah. That look good. >> Yeah. Cross the street. >> Hell no. I got nothing on the wrong door. Oh, they're not they're not releasing you into our custo your retired business. You're on your own. >> Well, I'm going to tell them where I'm going to be. >> Would they what they find to have to say? >> I'm going to leave your house at all. >> Period. Yes. I read the local news. I don't even want to go. That's Flaggler Live if you read it. I didn't even want to go and get a pack of smokes because I don't want to leave to have them any chances to say anything about me at all. I mean, it's already traumatic enough. I still haven't already whole processed it. I just don't know what I don't know what the [ __ ] is going on. I'm so continued up. Is that what they said? But they asked if I had talked about anything after my Miranda and I was like sure I didn't because that's when I talked to you as I was doing the Miranda. Heat. Heat. be staying here as long as possible. Said it shouldn't be too long. >> Who did the doctor? >> Yes. >> It's already been 45 minutes. >> Are you supposed to leave? You guys coming in here so I can change, man. [ __ ] He says, "Do you believe it was a fire alive?" And then he said, "Yes, I saw it." He is not a real reporter. Do not believe anything he states. He is a scanner chaser. How do they know it has anything to do with you? If my name wasn't mentioned, >> it's this is from my men's group. >> Oh, so you said something? >> I gave you that permission to do so? Yes, I wouldn't have said a thing. >> They're monitoring your phones in your >> I don't care. Oh, we're on that. >> I don't care either. I ain't doing nothing. I don't think I don't think they can legally do that without notifying you first anyway cuz that's basically the same as a letter. >> Understand there was. >> Well, they don't listen. I don't care >> on the phone. Um and they cannot they can't how can they say that's >> they will not even talk to me about what they need to >> well they have to be quiet they have to be >> over any phone >> well they have to be >> cautious they're representing it they have to be extremely cautious >> well they also said face to face well face to face yeah so >> I mean talk to them are they going when are you going to talk face to face with them >> I don't know as soon as I possibly and probably won't go pay on Monday. It depends. I mean, so many things can happen before Monday. Either way, I'm going to give you guys the power of attorney, so you can >> Well, that's my stuff. >> That's fine. >> Either way, we also have to find out. I hate to say this, but how's that? How's the scene going to be cleaned? >> I'll hire somebody. >> Do you have to hire somebody to ask that or we don't know? Did they tell you that anything? >> Usually it's Yeah. Well, usually it's not the reality. Did they tell you anything? >> I mean, if there's if there's if there's blood, it's got to be cleaned up and it's got to be done properly. So, I don't know. I mean, I don't want to bring I hate to bring it up now, but that's something that's going to have to be brought up. I mean, do you know how much a funeral is going to cost me? I have no idea. I would suggest >> I would suggest >> I would suggest cremation. >> I'm a broke fool right now because between this case and >> No, I would suggest cremation. >> It's whatever. You know what? I wouldn't even talk about that now. >> Hey, what's going on? >> Lori, >> we can't say much, but they might let him go. So, we're going to wait around, hang out, and see. >> So, go to a hotel or whatever. He is going to be released. >> Just tell her I will be released. >> Lorie, hang up. Say we can't talk. >> Yeah, we can't talk here. >> You know why? >> Not even on the phone. >> I know. I >> All right. Well, why don't you and Hill to go to the hotel and get some rest? >> I know. I can't talk here, remember? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Bye. She is drunker than [ __ ] >> Well, she's going to go with Hill, you think? >> I mean, drunker than [ __ ] >> man. What time is it? >> 10:18. >> 12 hours. >> Yeah, I've been here for 12 hours. >> Well, not that long. You got here, noon. But you've been here a long time. >> Oh, man. And did you guys tell Kathy? Kathy knows she probably she don't give a [ __ ] >> Yeah, she did. Well, she does, but I mean, you know, I mean, she didn't say anything. I asked her, "Is you all right?" And she goes, "Yeah, Kathy's Kathy." I mean, >> that doesn't mean she's not okay. >> We're all in shock. That's all I can say. >> I'm not okay to say that. Well, I don't look like I care either, but I I do. And I'm deeply troubled, but I'm in shock, too. So, you know, that doesn't mean I don't care. I'm not saying that. That isn't what I meant. >> Or it doesn't affect me. >> That's not what I meant. My whole world is Wow. I'm just having a hard time gripping with the reality of it, you know? It's like it's not real right now. Careful what you say. Me in this chair. We should we can move around. He laid on the floor for a little bit. Just move around. I don't know if they'll let you walk around out there or not. I don't know. I don't see why not. Well, that's good guy. What? Your house? Could you tell him I'm okay? because I'm nobody's worried about me. And they just asked and I said, "Well, they can charge him with anything. They haven't yet. They may not, but they may." >> You know, here's a probable like your lawyer said, and there's a possible There's a possible It is possible. Time will tell. He's not going to leave your house until he sees me. Maybe. Maybe. I know. I don't know. >> No, he's going to have to because when I go home, I'm going. No, but I know it. >> He's not going to stay there all night. >> It's just him. It's just him there. That's him. Him, Sarah, and Hilda and Des. Yes. Yeah. I'm so tired. >> Just break. >> I just don't want to wake up tomorrow because it's going to be even harder than it was today. >> You want something to eat now? >> Want some chips or something? >> Chips or something? going to release me. So, >> well, they don't know for sure. They got to talk. They got to get together with the other detectives first. >> That's what the lawyer said. >> You want to some chips? >> They got to do their thing. Yeah, he does. >> Drink off already. >> Not yet. >> Okay. >> Not yet. I can't I can't sit there. I can't watch that. >> I can't watch. >> You might as well get some sodas and chip. It's better than nothing. You got to be dry. It's dry in here. Your mouth dries out. I know. But your mouth dries all out. I don't know. They're both right. >> Laura, do you need to go to the bathroom? If you do, do it now cuz she's got to go with us. She's not going to watch you, but she's got to escort us. You okay? >> What about you, Keith? You okay? >> I just want to go. >> Does he have to stay in here? >> Heat. [ __ ] for 12 hours. That's not a [ __ ] room. Dad doesn't let me have a few of damn cigarettes. Oh, I should have just left once he said you don't have to be here. Okay. The one that he told us you could leave in any time. We haven't charged him. He can leave right now if he wants to. >> So yeah, when I want to leave, he won't let me. >> I said, and then when you said, "Well, he won't let me leave." Then he said, "I told I don't dare. We have to call somebody." And we couldn't find a whole lot of them, let me tell you, because everybody was closed for that. What day is it again Sunday? on Saturday. >> So, someday someday I just want to go pick lawyer and all that. >> No, I want it tomorrow. >> How can you get it on a Sunday? >> I know. I can't get you know, you take out whatever you can. >> Yeah. >> Give him that and then say the rest is going to have to come on Monday. Yeah. I don't know what my limit is, but I'm sure can tell me that. Why did the FDS go to the bathroom? >> So you don't go wandering anywhere else? Who knows? >> I have a cold root beer if anybody wants one. >> Thank you. >> We're getting a chips. We'll be right back. Thank you. I don't know. If I do go to jail, I'll just know that I didn't do it now. >> We'll be praying for you anymore. I know that I didn't do it. >> I know you didn't do it. I never doubted that. He does. >> No, he just doesn't want to. He just says if we don't know, you know how technical he is. I do. I know you did to try to save her. >> I wish you knew what happened. >> I wish I would have never taken a shower. But that's my bad. No, it isn't. You took a shower because you got up in the morning. A lot of people do that. You didn't know any of this was going to happen. I know, but I could have prevented it. You know, I wish you would have told me that she wasn't. >> Yeah. Pay eye, you know. Jesus. Here you go. Bring your phone. Bring this. Either one. just s like you guys are keeping something from Huh? >> It just seemed like you guys are keeping something from me. I'm not going to say anything or soda. >> I'm not keeping anything from you. I'm just not seeing anything in here. And I do believe you better. I do believe. >> I mean, I know, right? Your mom says, "You don't think I believe you." But I do believe you. You told me, "I believe you." Until they prove different. If they prove different, I believe you. Why should I condemn you with not enough evidence to do so? Not condemn you, but you know, accuse you. They let you go. They say they're going to let you go. They've told us that several times. But what the hell's the [ __ ] hold up? >> They're waiting to see what they find at the house. what they remained there. And if you told them about whatever, >> don't say it out loud. If you told them about about whatever, they could arrest you. Cuz I told the town, you know, when we were talking, he says, "Well, he's he's prepared to be arrested for what?" I says, "Well, you should know he talked to you. We" And he says, "What?" I says, "Well, I go, you know, like he was training get something out of me and I said, "Well, you know, you talk to him." It's like I knew something that >> he didn't. >> Yeah. But I just says, "You know, if you you already know, I mean, he's prepared that, you know, if he may be arrested. If I don't be arrested, just come and do it already." But they really couldn't they can't do that on hearsay. I wouldn't think. They'd have to have the evidence first of anything, any kind of an arrest. So, if they don't arrest you and they cut you loose, then you won't even be able to see a judge cuz you have to What? What did your lawyer say about that? >> Um, that basically if they arrest me, >> if they don't, >> nothing. They can't do anything to come see them immediately. All right. And if they do arrest you, >> then my for you guys to tell the lawyer immediately um I will have harsh appearance. >> Even if they arrest you, >> but the public defender will be at they'll have >> and basically tells me it >> the public defender will have to represent you >> tomorrow because they won't let >> Yeah. There's something like you said before that if they charged you with something they don't you don't have to see a judge. >> No, I don't. >> No. >> I thought Didn't that what they said? >> Um that if they charge me, I'll have a first appearance in the morning, which is bad. >> If they charge you. >> Yes. >> They Well, if they arrest you, they're charging you with something. >> Exactly. Um, so if they do charge you, >> if they arrest me, period, you >> if you're under arrest, okay, if you're under arrest, then you will see a judge tomorrow, no matter what it is. >> Yeah, but I won't be able to talk. >> Well, of course. >> No, that's just Well, this and this and this and this this. >> They're just temporarily representing you, saying this is your charges. >> Yes. >> They can't ask you if you're going to plead guilty or anything. I doubt it. >> No, it's just saying these are the charges against you. Going back to jail. Yeah. Okay. You are supposed to come immediately. >> I will. You will. >> Now, what if they What was the deal if they said if they if they kept detaining you, you wouldn't see a judge? Because I was one time they said you wouldn't see a judge of something else. >> It would be a video is what he said. >> Yeah, it be a video. >> Oh, that's what they were saying. You won't physically appear in front of a judge. Exactly. >> But you will because it's a video. Okay. >> Within 24 hours, >> you won't be in a courtroom. within 24 hours, no matter what, they have to give you to a judge. >> Okay. The judge has to tell you the charges. >> Yeah. Formally, now if it's past a certain time or whatever, it won't be done. >> But like 5:00, if it's before, >> you say 5 in the morning or something like that. If it's before that time, then it'll be right away tomorrow. Otherwise, it'll be Monday. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a worried about it. I just want to call home. I'm going to spend all day. Can you specify how long? You know, she just said once once the detective that's here, the blue shirt Yeah. >> once he talks with the other detectives of whatever they're doing up there, then you'll they'll take your clothes and you'll be able to go all these if if ifs. Then again, if they find something that's they can charge you with, you can bet your ass they're going to charge you with something. Who knows? >> Maybe not. I don't know. That's up to them. But they can't really hold you because they have no evidence against anything at this point. They can detain you for so long. But >> yeah, but I don't think I think they're asking. >> But they have to charge you before they can keep you. >> I think why they're random and they're >> they have to random because they can only keep me so long without doing that. >> They keep you 72 hours or something, I think. I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a cop. I don't know. >> My lawyer did say that this is very inhumane. >> I don't know about that either. Like I said, I don't know. Like they said, why can't they just leave you along? But you agree. That's That's a good question to ask that. And she's like, I don't because of all of the different suspicious circumstances. I know. I know. I know. But you said it, too. >> Yeah, it was very suspicious. >> Who knows? >> I don't know, Keith. I have no idea. I'm not going to judge. I'm not going to condemn. I'm just going to tell you that I'm always there for you no matter what. >> I know. >> And you're going to need to be. >> And you'll need to be. Trust me, you'll need to be. >> What does that mean? I'm going to have to go through a lot of things by just building my life back up. Dad, I mean, think about it, man. I lost everything. House, nothing. My wife, my child, you know. Well, you haven't lost him yet. You think Jeremy's going, >> but you know they're you know they're going to fight if you everything goes right and you have a you have a right to fight for him you know because you are you >> but you don't they don't have to let you they don't have to let us see him either. >> But he's because he's the real father. It'd be the same thing if it was the other way around >> with with Kira. You know he has the rights. >> I need to see Kira. No, but I'm sure that pretty already told her. Um, she should have by now. Just sooner will be better. And they're precious. Just really just really really I don't know. The cops said that Ry's dad told him that she was shot. said, "Well, did he say that she was dead?" He told him that she he was shot or she was shot. >> That's bad. >> I said, "But did he tell her tell him that she was dead?" He never answered. And I says, "Well, Sh is not dead." >> You know, so how does he know that? How can did how does he know that that she has passed away? >> Who Ryan is bad? No, Ryan's dad told Ryan Ryland. >> Okay. >> That his mother was shot. >> Yeah. >> He must have talked to him on the phone or something. >> Or he must have talked to her parents. >> He never said anything about her parents, only him. Only his dad. >> Um, and because we kept asking about that, he kind of hit him all around. They didn't really say. >> What did his dad tell him? She was dead. He wouldn't answer me. >> I said he says he told Ryland that she was shot. >> How would he know? >> But he already knew anyway. But how would he know? >> Well, did he already know anyway? >> Who? Ryland. >> Did he know that she had been shot? >> Yes. >> Yes, he did. >> I'm not dead. >> No. No. And I said, "Well, >> screaming on the par to the paramedic on the phone that she was shot and to get somebody over there immediately." >> Well, but he knew that they heard my 911 call. >> Well, that's definitely recorded. >> They know my 911 call. >> But I mean, I just really kind of What is weird? >> I mean, I'm not saying he did anything or anything. I doubt that he did. Mhm. >> But it's weird that he knows that she's passed away unless somebody physically told him that. >> And I don't know it wasn't us. >> And according to the therapist, I told him, I said, "Well, the the the uh uh counselor that came in said that she didn't tell him. He told her." And she was shocked. And she was. She says, "I don't always do that. Nobody's told them. And they wouldn't let me even talk to them." I know. Well, that's normal. So I couldn't at all. >> But it's just weird that he knows. >> I know. >> And he's taking it so calmly. >> He's happy and he's calm and he's like, "Oh, normal." >> Talking of just normal. Just like normal. >> That's That's not normal. >> No, it's not. >> He's taking it like whatever. But we didn't know that that he had said that until after we was in there with him for a while. >> Yeah. I >> and then when he saw me in the hall, he come running up and then when I saw him again, he goodbye, grandpa. >> And you know, his dad turned around and looked, you know. >> Did you get a chance to speak with the dad? >> No. >> He didn't even look. >> Oh, he turned around and looked at me, but that's it. >> He probably looked happy. >> No, he did not. I couldn't tell. I didn't have glasses, but he didn't. You know, I don't know how. But Ryland's just happy golucky. Just typical Ry Ryland. >> Like nothing happened. >> Yeah, but maybe that's how he's processing things. I don't know. >> It's weird. But that's >> very strange that he not a tear >> and and even they they they told us that he's been having fun playing with things, talking, he told us that they were talking about things and you know, and they just kept asking me the same thing. They asked me three times and tell you what he said. Three times they've been the internet talking to me. Why don't they need to talk to me again? That's what he said. I says, "Well, they they just that's the way things are. When something happens like this, then they have to talk to everybody." And he said, "Well, how's your day?" >> Not once did he ask about his mother. >> Nope. >> Not once. >> I find that strange. Where's my mom? >> Not He was asking about you. Mhm. >> Not about grandma, not about his mom. >> He did ask about Kira. >> Yeah. >> He says, "Well, is is dad going to still get cured and she going to spend the night tonight?" And I said, "No, probably not because you know how Bri is. Bri sometimes she forgets and probably has something going on. You know how that goes." He goes, "Yeah, I know." And he just moved on. And he was telling us about the toys and we were just talking and the cop says, "Don't say anything to him." >> Yeah. He says, "You have to promise me you won't neither one of you will say anything." >> Sure. >> But that she isn't dead. >> Why would he say that if he already knew? >> Because no one knew he knew. >> No, I know what I mean. >> Why would he say that? >> Passed away. >> Yeah. >> Why would the cop say that is what you're saying? >> No. Why did Ryland say she passed away? >> No, that what I mean that he knows what passed away means. The wine with the cop. I say not the cop. >> The cop said I What did he say? But when he told us, he said, "You have to promise me on your word that you won't say anything about her passing away." >> Yeah. >> So who did? >> Not passing away, but whatever. That anything about his mother. >> So who did? >> His dad. His dad didn't know. >> Obviously he always if he talked to the mother and the other knew. >> How would he not know he'd come to pick him up? >> Yeah, but that was even before you guys said to call him yet. >> No, I don't know. But evidently he had talked to Ryland and told Ryland that she was gone. >> Maybe. >> Well, that's what he said, but he wouldn't let us talk about it. He says, "Well, cuz we were going to tell Ryland." >> Sure. And he says, "Promise me you don't say anything. Don't say anything. Don't say anything. Promise me you won't." >> But he didn't know, >> right? Because he wasn't. He didn't know. >> Then why did he say that his mom's passed away to the counselor? >> I don't know. Because we kept him >> and the cops said that. >> His dad told him that. >> Maybe they should look into that. >> Things aren't driving. He just said his mom was shot and that you went in the ambulance. >> Well, he knew that at the at the scene. >> Yeah. >> But he was suddenly right here. Because of that, it doesn't make sense. He wouldn't let us talk about it because he didn't know about it. >> Exactly. >> That's what he told us. >> Because no, >> if I wanted to tell him myself, they wouldn't let me. >> No. And I said, "Well, we will tell him." No, don't tell him anything. He doesn't know. >> He doesn't need to know. >> He doesn't need to know. Now, promise me you won't tell him anything. And he said that to me several times. And you said it to your >> in front of your mom a couple times, too. And I said, "We promise it'll be kept. I promise." >> Sure. >> We kept it upbeat. >> Mhm. >> And he was just happy golucky. Just normal ride. >> And not one time did he say, "I was my mom." Okay. >> Not once did he mention his mother at all. That is weird. >> Where is she? >> But she talked to >> Okay. >> about his mother evidently >> or he talked to her. They were talking and she came out and she said he said that she's passed away. How did he know that? >> How would he know? >> She was shocked. >> I was told that he didn't know. >> That's what she said. >> Uh-huh. >> Yeah. That's what she said. I was told that he didn't know. The cop said that her father, his father told him, >> not me. No, his real father. And how would he know? >> Well, he knows. Of course he knows. >> Unless they called him and told him. >> He's got to know what's going on, Keith. Yeah. He come and picked up Ryland. He knows what's happened. >> Yeah. That's just weird. That don't drive. Why would the Why would the counselor come out like bewildered? because she's talked to him before and then all of a sudden he says this and nobody else has talked to him except us and you guys didn't say nothing because you were you supervised. >> They had the door open and you were supervised. >> No, we weren't. >> Outside the door. >> They were outside the door listening to what we were saying to make sure that we would keep our word and we did. >> Mhm. >> And then she went in there after that. >> Okay. And I and we had, you know, cuz we were talking to the other lady saying, "This is awful funny that his his Nemo, nobody else has been here. We're the only ones here. Why?" Yeah. No kidding. I mean, nobody else has anybody else even tried to see him. She didn't really say anything, did she? But you could see the look in her face like >> Yeah. >> I mean, she kind of shook her head. >> She goes, "Well, they might have been in contact, but they didn't try to see. Why didn't they come to try to console him? >> I don't know. >> I mean, that's what I'm thinking. That's what I want you to do is be with us. >> Why are we the only Why are the we the only ones >> of the grandparents or other family members that came here for him? >> I know. >> Nobody else did. His dad came to pick him up and marched him out of here. That's it. But we were here to be with him. >> Yeah. and let him know that, you know, he knows, >> but he was too cool. >> He was really cool. >> He didn't ask not one. >> He wanted to know about me and where I was on. >> He wanted to know about you. >> And he says, "Well, are you going to take are you going to take daddy home?" And I says, "I don't know yet." Maybe, you know, probably, but we don't know yet. >> Well, why? Well, because you know, when things like this happen, they have to do things. Yeah. Well, then he said about the game and he said, "Can you get my game?" Said, "No, we can't go to the house." And he said, "Oh, because of the yellow tape." And I said, "Yeah." No. Well, then he said something about the yellow tape. And I says, "Well, you know, they they have to make sure everything's okay before anybody can go into the house." >> Sure. >> And he understood that. >> Okay. And then he >> But he didn't ask about his mom. >> Nope. Not not one word. >> All he talked about was you and Kira. That's weird. >> That was it. Maybe they better look into that and do their job. >> Well, I don't know. The the forensics will tell all. That is weird >> to me. He's too strong. >> He's too calm. But he's only 6 years old, too. >> I don't care. He's It's not It's not normal. >> No, that's not normal. Sarah's drunk, so you know how he's a psycho, but he probably did it, you know. And I said, "Sir, he's just drunk." >> An accident. >> That's what I said. It could have been an accident. Maybe he just maybe he got a hold of the gun and bang bang. You know what I mean? Or maybe she rooted it out there cuz he was going to make coffee and breakfast and left it out there. And I don't know. He was, "Hey, mom, here." >> That could have been too. >> I don't know. But there's so many scenarios. >> There's no way he could have cocked that gun. >> There's so many scenario. >> Was it cocked? Was it chambered? I don't know >> cuz there's no way he can do that. >> I don't. >> He's not that strong and he wouldn't even know how to do it. No, >> unless he saw you do it. >> But if it was cocked, it would have been on safety or off. >> I don't know. Well, there's two guns. You said one. >> I don't know which one. One was one was cocked. >> It could have been [ __ ] I don't know. I mean, I'm just saying one was one had a safety and one didn't have a safety. >> Yeah. Which one was [ __ ] I don't know which one if they even I don't know. >> You don't know if either one of them was >> I wasn't the one that handled them last. >> Who did? >> Obviously Brandy. No, I mean when you put them by the bed, you should have known which if it was cocked or not. Was it Chamber? >> I don't know. Okay. I'm not trying to grill you. I mean, it could have been or Brandy could have did it at some point. I mean, I don't know. That's crazy, though. Yes. That don't make sense. >> No. >> Cuz he's not strong enough to to chamber it. >> No. >> And he wouldn't know how to do it unless he saw you. >> Well, you went you went he went with you when you went shooting with us a couple times and so he saw how to do it. Sure. >> And which which guns were there, Keith? Was it the one that was easier to car? There was >> the new one. >> They were both the new ones. One of them was the Beretta and one of them was the Canic. >> Which one's that? Hers? >> Well, they're both yours. >> Well, they're both mine, but she was using the Beretta most of all. The Betta was pretty easy to [ __ ] >> and so was the panic, but it's competition. >> But for him, I don't know cuz it was, you know, I mean, for you and for an adult, it's not that difficult, but for him, I mean, all you have to do is Yeah. But not for him. I don't know. I don't know. There's all kinds of questions. There's all kinds of everything. Everything's a question. Oh, trust me. I know. Well, your guns have never jammed or anything, have they? Not that I'm aware of. You know, I not all like welloiled and did you know how like you >> just asking? When was the last time you went out too? >> Yeah. >> How about a week? a week about maybe you and her and Ryan go with Ryan will go with you. You know that guy told him he's relatively new to the young handling of guns. >> She know how to handle it. >> No, but look how she was when we were shooting. >> Who? >> Huh? She knows how to use it. She knew how using it. >> Well, yeah, but she's really nervous. She was very nervous about it, but she knew how to use it. She knew the She knew the mechanics of it. Sure. Sure. But she don't know. What if they do arrest you for something? You'll see the judge tomorrow anyway. Make an appearance anyway. >> I don't know why they would. >> What's in the house? I just need cars. >> Still more than, you know, a misdemeanor. There's one call. I know you when I was hugging you, you told me, "Get rid of your guns. Get rid of my guns." >> But what was you was trying to say something else to me and I couldn't understand you. What did you say? >> I don't want it to happen to nobody else. >> Is that what you said? >> Cuz I couldn't understand you. Remember I told you I couldn't understand you. I was like, I don't want this to happen to nobody else. >> I didn't hear that. That's what I was asking. What did you say? Cuz it was you was upset and I couldn't understand you. Sure. I like I don't want nobody in the family to have any of them. No, I had Braden take my guns, take him to his house as a precaution. >> Huh? >> As a precaution. >> Okay, >> you understand why? >> Just in case I was >> right. Not that you hurt us, but yourself. >> That way, you know, >> you can say one thing and something else happened. Anyway, they're not there. Okay. Could I probably never even touch a weapon again. Ever. Honestly, that's not a bad thing. That's not a good thing either. It's not a bad Not a bad thing, is it? At all. So now you said you can keep that shirt. >> That's awesome. That's what you said. I like these. >> I didn't bring you any socks. I just brought you my slippers. >> I don't care. probably won't fit him anyway. He's got 13 shoes. >> I know this. My shoes will not fit you, but the slippers will be all right. I got a pair of my nylon underwear. >> Whatever. >> And a pair of jeans. Cuz he already had a shirt and a belt. >> That's all I need. >> That's all you need. >> I mean, I'm just going >> cuz I asked him. I said, "Can is he going to keep that shirt?" He goes, "Yeah." So, >> well, I just need to go to your house. That's all. You I'm I'm whooped at. I'm sure you are. My mind is just whooped. So is ours. Not like yours, of course. Not even close. Probably. I've been here 13 hours. That is a little bit inhumane. See, >> it's almost like going to the ER, isn't it? >> I could have drove halfway across the 12:00 in the morning. We'll see. >> Yeah, you could have. Huh? >> From 2 or 3:00 in the morning, we'll still be here. >> No, it's not going to be that long. I mean, either they're going to come in and they're going to let him go or they're going to charge him with something. That's bottom line. And there's nothing in between. They expect the worst and hope for the best. Oh god. And if they do arrest you, they'll probably put you on suicide watch, which is normal. They should do nothing. >> Well, they don't know that. How is it going to let me go? Come on now. It's in your time. >> Blood said to me that it's not uncommon that it takes a while, but this is ridiculously a lot like that. I mean, it's, you know, when there's suspicious things, you know, >> sure, >> that's, you know, well, they were detaining you, but all you had to do was say, you know, there was more to it than that because all you had to do was say, "I had enough. Either charge me or let me go." They didn't have to let you go. >> Yeah. >> If they didn't let you go and you said that, then it was a problem at the time. >> There was more to it. No, I said I could go at any time, but I stayed here because I was being honest and I wanted to just That was probably not the best thing to do because I didn't use any of you. Why? Because it was before they ran me a memorandum. It doesn't matter. >> It doesn't matter. You should have left because now you're never going to get on her. >> I didn't want to look real guilty either. Cuz you know, that's not looking guilty. Just administering your rights is not being guilty. Yeah. Okay. >> You should have said, "I will speak to you once I have my I wanted to cooperate, you know. >> Well, that's spider. But sometimes that doesn't look good either. I got [ __ ] to hide, you know. >> Ah [ __ ] man. >> You know, these people are trained to look at both the person reacts. I mean, God knows what happened and all to be honest with you. And if it was something with Random, then I never know unless his DNA is out again. dating Jack. >> He did say that it was only one gun, though. See, I didn't even know that. I just told you both bullets came out of the same gun. >> That's what they think at this point. They can't prove it yet because they haven't got the forensics. >> Sure. There was a reason that they said that. I don't know. Don't make no sense at all. I'm getting tired of thinking about it. My head is just I had every so I got my neck. I think when the cops said he wasn't happy with his partner, the way that he treated you. No, the woman I think it was. Is that the one you complained about? >> Said, "I'm not happy about that. That that was uncalled for literally cuz you said you compl you said you complained that I was offended." And he's not happy at all with what that guy put on the player live. >> That's ridiculous. >> He said that is very unprofessional. And I said, "Well, you know, I mean, sure, you have a right to do it, but to put the address in there." No. >> Now you're going to have everybody who tried to lie. >> Yep. >> Or any of her friends that know her. >> Well, you can bet most of her friends probably already know, and there's nothing wrong with that. Well, maybe Maddie is used pertaining to the the the one in January saying the cops was using the same language and they said it was very suspicious. What was that cop even doing talking to him >> exactly >> at the crime scene? >> Right. >> He's not supposed to. >> And that's exactly what he said that the whole thing was done was unprofessional. Basically, he didn't say it that way, but he was very upset. He said, "This is wrong." cuz he he asked him why did you even talk to him? That's what he was thinking telling me out there. >> Sure. I mean this is a private information, you know. >> Well, it wasn't nothing's proven. It's just allegations. It's suspicious. >> And then how Kira was seen there. They said a girl and then now the girl isn't there anymore. Nobody's seen her in a while. And there was a boy there. >> So that two children live there. >> Once a week she's acting. He said, "Two children lived there, a boy and a girl." >> And the girl just started going just started going across the street to play with the neighbors cuz he was talking to those black people. >> And uh so just talking to him, but she hasn't been seen for a while. >> Doesn't mean anything cuz she's only once a week. >> Well, that's he's just he's he's sensationalizing everything, making people think. See? Oh, what did you disappear, too? >> What's going >> What's going on there? >> Oh, I'm sure >> that guy's a jerk. And I just told my my friend there, too, the same thing. Don't listen to him. He's a He's not a real reporter, and he's just a scanner scanner chaser. I mean, I'm sure my name will be in the paper eventually. >> I'm sure it will be. >> I will never get a job. >> Well, never. Well, not if you not if they if they charge you and you're proven innocent. They can't hold that against you. That's still they can't legally. I'll never get a job. I don't know. I'll have to move away. I'm doubting you. Well, maybe just because of a smart ass mouth. Well, they didn't name names yet. That was public record. Damn. They had it on TV, but they didn't say anything. They just said that they a body was found in a house and uh a body was found in a house and there was uh no danger to the community. That was >> I just happened to see it. >> At least they were >> I was looking at the I was looking at the weather thing and that popped up. I was wondering I wonder if they'll say anything because of what we saw on there. >> But that's all they said. At least they didn't say anything else. They did it professionally. >> Good. >> They just said that's it. >> They didn't expound. >> Man, I want What's her name? That Miranda. She's going to be there 24/7. >> Rhonda. >> She will be there all night. >> Who's that? >> Lawyer. >> Miranda. >> Oh, that's her phone number. She's got She's on call. >> Nice. >> Yeah. Well, she said just call up to 9:00 or 8:00, whatever she said. >> But if she tells you that, she's probably the the lawyer on call. >> Yeah. Like whenever. >> Yeah. >> If you get to, you know, if you get the number I gave you is his number. >> The number on the phone is the office number. The the one that she responds to, right? Let's >> see. I would have had the wrong number. But you would have had his. You could have left a message. >> But if she's going to answer, >> if they keep you, then we'll just we'll give you that number, too. Police are all suspicious. They had That's their job. But they treated you okay. I mean, they haven't pounded on you or they didn't they didn't yell at you or threaten you or anything, did they? >> One of them has been rude, but >> Well, rude is different. >> Yeah. >> I think for the most part, they've been all right. >> That one cop at the when he was talking to you, >> the blue shirt. >> Whoever it was, no, the cop at the house. Oh, he was kind of jerk [ __ ] on I told him about Yeah, he was a jerk. I was just asking a question. Well, he was asking a question. He said, "Time for you to leave." Oh, whatever. I mean, go back over there. >> He was a jerk. He's the one that told me not to come see me. >> Yeah, he was a jerk. The other guys were nice. You know, the one that >> Cuz I said, "Can I just say something to him and and hug him?" No. get in your car and stay there. >> I just when it got I didn't talk to him. I talked to a different one and he says, "Well, he's right over there. He's not being charged. He's he's not under arrest." >> I get in the car. >> He said, "He's in the car." And I said, "Well, can I just kind of wave and you know, say let so he knows I'm here for him?" >> And he goes, "Well, door's open over there." So, I just walked over there. >> They wouldn't let me. >> I just like Carrie Michelle, nobody. We weren't allowed to look at them, touch them, talk them. >> I got lucky. I guess >> they said no. >> Mella tried. They made it 20 yards from me and I went like this. >> Yeah. >> And you know, and B was in a yard in the car. >> Yeah, I know. >> He's taking it pretty hard. >> Of course he is. That's why I told him to leave. his best friend, >> take my car and leave. And he says, "You I don't want to be here either." So, he took off. >> Well, of course, man. I'm >> We sat there for another 3 hours. >> I mean, I'm his best friend. He's worried about me and Brandy, man. We all got really close. >> I know. you know, >> well, they were asking about we went to your house and all that stuff and I told him about the >> the dinner and the the steak. They said it was good. It was a little salty. It was a little tough, too. Well, it wasn't really, but it was I said, "Well, she tried." >> Yeah. >> We praised her for it. Said, "Hey, you tried. It was good. It wasn't that bad. It wasn't for >> Hey, she tried cuz they asked us things like that. And I that's what I told her. since you dragged. No one's perfect. >> Yeah. I mean, it's it's like this floor is filthy. Look at that corner. It's all dust. Yeah. I don't care. Oh, I asked if you could just walk around out there and you said no. Why? Got to stay in there. I don't see why you can't. I mean, just to move around. Why should you have to be escorted to the man? cuz it's a police station. She didn't She just stood out in the hallway way up here and the bathroom's way down there and then she came in here and I didn't see her until I was on my way back. But if you had to go uh you'd have to be escorted I mean into the bathroom probably. They just got to be in the room. She says, "Well, if he's got to go, I can't go. I can't go in the man's room." So, I'm just holding hold on. Well, if you got to go to the bathroom, you go. You tell them you got to go. might have that hassle to you. Why? They just take you down the bathroom and step inside the door while you're taking a pee and bring you back. Do you need to go? >> I've held it so long. >> Well, if you want to go, don't hold it. It's not healthy. It's not good for you cuz who knows how long it's going to be. So, if you need to go, you need to go. I'll wait till I can't take it in. >> Well, obviously you need to go now. You just said you did it. >> Well, talking about it ain't going to help anything. >> Well, that's why I'm talking about it. Cuz you need to go. I want my eyes shut more than I need to go. >> Huh? I need my eyes closed before. Way more than I need to go. I'll tell you that. I need a sense of peace and relaxation. These lights mess with you after a while. >> Yeah. behavior. I think they're like special links to me. I need to move around. Tell them what the hell. >> Well, they're not going to tell me anything >> until they're done at your house. >> Until they're done at your house and they get together. >> That's going to be half the night. >> I don't know. Well, it shouldn't be very long. >> No. >> I just need to move around. 5 hours >> like the law said need to stay in here. So if you mind come back you can move around. We need to move around a little bit too. It's dark out here. I'm tired. We got heat. Oh god, my legs are stiff. This is ridiculous. I just want to change. Mom, >> take a shower. Soak in the tub. I just want to change and lay down. How would change get released? You guys know I can't tell you because if I do kill your dad and then I'm going to be a minute she told you to start chest compressions and you wouldn't do it. >> I didn't want to touch her. That makes you look guilty. I don't care >> because you would try to help her. I could have saved her life. No, I couldn't. Just say >> how slipping everywhere. Where's a wound? Where's a wound? Where's a wound? I don't know. Cuz they said she could have saved her life. >> No, I couldn't. Now, >> just say you thought she was dead. God here's almost does these friends Dylan Brian Brandon. So that's what the whole just I'm very suspicious that we try to help. I was wet. I could not do it. I was living everywhere. And there was two guns and the bullet came out of the same gun. She once came out. So if she had two in her hands, why did only one shoot it twice? Because maybe she grabbed it like this before. >> I don't know. They just find that very suspicious. Well, they can cuz they're not going to find [ __ ] on me. No gun blast, nothing. It looks like I think I'm not sure. I think that looks like you had a gun. She had a gun and you she tried to shoot you or something and you shot her. I think that >> I'm not sure, but I'm thinking That's not what happened. That was last December. This is Jess. Summer of 2008. Here's her bucket list. Okay. Get a job. She's only 15. Uh get really tame. Kiss someone. Sneak out of the house. Go to the aquarium. Play beach volleyball. Go on a date with Gray. Apparently is somebody she wants. Get a piercing. Watch a sunset and rise. Experience Coachella. What's that? Sleep outside. Run a back flip flip. Go to for you concert. Have a paint fight. Have several beach days. Hike up a small mountain. Dip dye my hair. Finished decorating my room. Get drunk then. Oh, Tessy. Try every ice cream. So, there's a lot of This makes sense. Heat. Heat. is breathing. Barely breathing. Um, I love >> that was it? >> That's that's all I see. >> So, at that time, you thought she was dead anyway. >> Not just that, but I couldn't get to her. >> I was slipping everywhere. I was ripping away, slipping everywhere. >> But you said, "You can't. I'm sliding. >> I can't. I'm sliding. I can't." >> And then he said that you didn't even try. I couldn't cuz you didn't want you freaked out about touching her. >> Yes. >> Yeah. This is when she first got here. I don't think she has anything for this here. doesn't look like it. Wish you would write something down because you never know what she's thinking. And Desi's one of those silence ones that don't show her emotions. So, that's kind of dangerous and I wish she would. So, I'm so tired. This is ridiculous, man. My hands get stiff. And if I don't crack them, this one right here, this joint doesn't want to bend. It just goes boink. Quick clean across your face and go to sleep. Got to be up top. talking about what is it going to be 2 3:00 this morning? I mean, come on. Lift him off. It's ridiculous. The lawyer calls and says, "Oh, they're going to let him go." And then nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. He says, "It's not going to be very long." And then nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. What they say? Nothing. She's just waiting for them to She says, "I want to go home, too." She's waiting for them to get over cuz she wants to go home, too. The rooms are recorded. >> Mhm. >> Both sound and >> I just asked for the red lights on. >> I don't care. I'm so tired. I just wish they'd let me go. >> They're not holding us here. But >> Oh, I know. But we want to be here for you now and then. >> Huh? the right light on the thing. No, it's outside the door. >> I can record all I want. >> I just asked them. So there are they are they is it listening? Yeah, they can hear. Is it being recorded? >> Yes. All they want they can say. Oh [ __ ] That's why I said well that's why the lawyer tells you to zip it. >> I said it a thousand times. >> Walk around in that room out there. It's kind of >> all right. >> Huh? >> Okay, G. >> What? What? >> It's not going to help any. I'm so It doesn't matter. >> Yeah, but it'll help a little bit. >> How long is long? >> Very. >> They say, "Oh, it shouldn't be too long." It shouldn't be too long. It shouldn't be too long. I asked her about the cars. I said, "Well, the one car's mine, the Mustang. And she goes, "Well, if it's inside the tape, there's nothing you can do about it until they remove the tape." >> Yeah. >> You can't go in the house until the tape's removed. I said, "I don't want to go to the house." >> I just want to get my damn card. >> Now, did she say how long a little? >> She has no idea. She says same thing. I want to go home, too. The longer they take, the longer she has to stay here. She's not happy with it. I'm sure she just wants to go home like anybody else. It's been [ __ ] 13 hours since we do this. I know I would go home to this side. painters. You could use the tissue for a pillow. That's what she said. >> I said, "Take these off. They're padded." >> But the corners would be really hard. They won't come off. >> I said, "Put tissues over your eyes." >> No, just lay your hand on the tissues. Like a little longer to change. Come on now. >> Yeah. Just be in here. does in here is contaminating all of your clothing. Okay. They're probably, you know, they're probably going to check for >> It's because residue and finger was bleeding. >> They're going to check it for whose blood's on you. >> It's mine. >> Look at all his bites on his arm. >> I know. What is it? [ __ ] mosquitoes and [ __ ] I told you >> we're out in the backyard. They never did fix that screen, did they? >> Not yet. >> They never catch grass either. >> And that's what's bringing up mosquitoes. >> So >> So he's not They're not doing anything. >> Either way, I'm going to be like, "I can't live there anymore. If you got to give him 30 days, >> you know, and they have to give you the rest of the money back. Have to." the the cops said we said that he probably put up the the cameras because of the the other landlord just going in walking in your house whenever he wanted to. Cop says, "I don't blame him." >> And this blame. >> Yeah. He says, "Well, if he's got it," because she said, "Well, this guy listener says they can come in whenever they want." He goes, "That's not legal." >> No. >> He said, "That's he" He said, "That's not illegal." lease. No, >> you don't have a legal lease. I told you that there's so many loopholes or not loopholes, but lawsuit is pitiful. I just hope Ryland's daddy his head with [ __ ] Ryland knows. I mean, he likes >> if he thought that you think that he would be asking about you. No, Randon's dad has [ __ ] in his head as usual. >> Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. If they do that, they're not very They shouldn't be doing that. >> He hasn't even been paying child support or anything. >> Well, but he's a legal father. >> No, they never went to court for custody or anything. He's still the the paternal father >> and he lives with his his mother which I said he was the riling with his mother most of the time anyway. >> That's not the best place for him to be though. No choice. >> The eternal family has priority. >> That would not have been Ry's wish. >> No >> at all. Well, doesn't matter. They're talking legalities here. He has a legal right. >> I wish he would. They would have just let him come on with us. They talked like they might have, but evidently he spoke up and >> Well, they Well, they contacted. >> Yeah, she said they contacted him. >> Oh, the DHS. Yeah, they had to. >> No, his dad ain't putting a crap. No, that [ __ ] >> It's just really strange that he didn't even mention his mother. I never even thought about that till you said that. >> No, he didn't ask how she was or if she was going to be all right or if he could see her or where she where is she? Nothing. Nothing. That's weird. Well, maybe talking to them, he got all that out. >> Maybe. >> Well, we don't know what they what they talked about. I'm sure they they finagle it out somehow. >> If she thought she was in the ambulance and went to the hospital, you would think that he would say, "Is my mama okay? Have you seen her?" >> He knew that I was upset, too. >> You know, I don't know. >> Any any kid would say that. Where's my mom? Anybody even say that? >> Again, maybe he already asked them and he was satisfied with what the questions, the answers they gave him cuz they did say that. Didn't he say that we could say that she's in the hospital and they're taking care of her? That's what he said we could say to him. So, how did he know? unless he overheard one of the workers. >> Could have I don't know. That's weird though. That's That's not >> But whenever they were talking about it, >> did my mom >> then you would just think you would have said to us, "Did my mom die?" or um is she okay? If I overheard something, even if I was small, if I overheard something like that, I would question it. >> Well, maybe you did. But >> I mean to us when we came in, did you see my mama? Is she okay? Is she going to be all right? >> Well, he kind of said that. >> No, he didn't. He never mentioned her at all. >> Well, we didn't even say anything. Well, I No, we didn't say anything about the hospital or nothing. >> He didn't. >> That's right. He didn't even ask. >> I was expecting him to, but >> I was too. In fact, maybe that's why I thought he said it, but I guess he didn't. He just was >> He didn't even ask. >> He was He might be known now. He was just being a kid. which is strange text. He wonders if she leaves the door. >> That's what I said. If he doesn't when he's when she was even in the kitchen that night, where's my mom go? Where did my mom go? Where did my mom go? Where are >> maybe this is just his way of processing mine. >> There's something not right cuz no one told him. I wasn't even allowed to tell him. and tried to tell him and you didn't tell him and they didn't tell him. >> Well, he's the officer said that his dad told him how >> But then again, we weren't able to say anything. >> Mhm. >> And the other the other the counselor said that he didn't know. >> Yeah. >> I was told he didn't know. >> Yeah. Well, and then he told her and she you could see that she was shocked. >> Mhm. >> They probably wasn't even allowed nowhere near him. >> They didn't until I left. Makes >> sense. >> They didn't until I left. He was, you know, he was standing down with me and, you know, on the outside of the car until I left and then Oh, we'll get you to talk to your son soon. We'll get you to talk to your son, too. That never came. >> Yeah. Like they never came, the cop never came over to us either. We sat there 3 hours. He was right there. I forgot that so much going on. Everything I I just forgot. I'm so sorry. It's my fault. The other cop said they were going to come back, you know, and I want >> He said, "Point where the house is, go back to the house and stay there and we will come back and we will talk to you both separately." And they never came back. And then this guy when I finally talked to him, he says, "Oh, it's my fault. I'm supposed to be doing it. I told him I would do it." No. >> His mom don't like you anyway, does she? >> No. >> Even though they haven't ever se hardly even spent time with him. I'm trying to even get to know me. What about her dad, >> Joe? He's real quiet. Yeah, that's what I gathered. I mean, I've only seen her mom once. I only remember once, maybe twice. That one day when they were putting the table in. >> That's the only time I can remember even seeing her. I may have seen her. I don't even know what she looks like. >> She'll come by. >> I remember him cuz he's he's he's just he's got a you know, a handicap. I remember him, but I don't remember her at all. know what she looks like. She's >> She's weird. >> She is weird. You know, she's the one that'll be like, "Oh, hi." And then you talk behind your back, you know? Why did you move into a new house? His money. His money. Yeah. It's my money, not everybody else's. So, stay off. And if she Brandy said if she even owed her five bucks and didn't pay her back, she was >> she was on her all the time calling her three or four times a day. >> Oh yeah. >> That's half the reason why I didn't like her. Her mom was something else, man. He even asked me if her mom might have some help. I go, "Oh, well that makes sense." So obviously she talks some kind of [ __ ] which of course I mean you guys would be asking those same questions, too. But you know, like, well, did spouse do it? What happened? You know, I don't like him and blah blah blah. and army. >> I don't think we would. >> We have question. >> Her mother would. >> We would have questions. Of course, >> cuz some of the things Brandy have said about her mother. >> I'm like, really? >> She treated Brandy like, >> but we wouldn't say we, you know. >> Brandy was excited because her mom made her a pan of brownies. She was ecstatic. >> Mhm. >> I remember that. and she made me eat them and I didn't like them and I hate them any one of those it's one of those things you know I can hardly even see close your eyes and take a nap take a nap and gone Mom will be sleeping when you sleep in the village. I mean, this is ridiculous. >> After a while, your eyes start burning. >> Why did he tell you to to go bring the closes? Tell them how to do it. >> Maybe they're waiting to see what they find there before they do it. That's what he said. >> No, I could take a freaking night. If they find evidence there, then they won't even then they'll just do what they got to do. >> I don't know. They could just be saying, "Well, we know that we're going to do something and we're not going to let him go because we're afraid he might take off or you know, you don't know. You don't know what they're thinking. They're thinking they're always thinking that he was going to be let go." Well, >> they're all the cops are always thinking the worst, you know? I mean, that's their job. Now, come on, man. >> Well, if we let him go, maybe he'll skip, >> you know. Well, the cars are at his house and he he doesn't have access to ours, so >> that doesn't mean anything. >> He's supposed to be walk. >> If I was going to go, I would have left. You could, you know, a person could get a get a friend or whatever. >> Stay here on my own reconnaissance. If I was going to skip, >> that makes no sense. I don't think they're very happy because you got lawyered up. >> Yeah. Well, they were starting to uh add some pretty heavy accusations. So, I had to lawyer up and it's our own fault. You know, this is the box of Kleenex. >> Yeah. Put that box of Kleenex under your head. Not mom. I mean, You might pull the couple. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Crunch it down a little bit. >> Mhm. >> You don't look like they box in months. >> You might be more comfortable just sitting chair and put your head on the table. I've been terrible for 11 hours. that his legs are starting to weren't my head. Go ahead. Are they going to hold me until they possibly They could be doing ahead. Maybe they're just detaining you to to make sure you don't go anywhere and then charge you with something >> till the time's up. Until the time's up. That could be too. >> Was the time out at 5 in the morning? >> I don't know. I heard the lawyer said 5:00. That what she said. >> No, if they don't if they arrest me after 5 and I won't see the judge until Monday, right? Cuz it's another 24 hours. That's right. Cuz she said they might keep you all night. Just keep you there and not do anything. Well, then they need to let us know. >> Okay. Well, they don't have to do anything. >> I mean, us >> again. They don't have to do anything. The >> only thing they have to do at this point is not talk to him. >> Well, they can talk to us. >> Well, my just be careful what you say. The lawyer said that they were definitely going to let me go, but she don't know when. >> Well, on the phone straight, >> but even if they even if they uh after what you told him, >> huh? >> Cool. >> That was she called. >> Yeah. Came back. >> I understand. But does anybody even if they >> ascertain that there's something there to charge him with? >> No, they she said they're going to do something and they're supposed to stop and they're going to continue it on tomorrow or something is what she told me. >> I thought >> I don't know. Well, maybe but they'll have to leave somebody there. It's like what she said that they might have to do some, you know, and then they'll leave there to >> watch the place. >> Yeah. >> But that doesn't mean that they have to leave here. I don't know that time either. At least in jail, you'd be in a bed. You should take pictures of this place. It wasn't, you know, $15 on the ground. >> They could at least have a c, you know, like a bench or something. >> Yeah. That they could at least lay down on. >> But they don't want you to be comfortable. >> I don't care. Then I'd call that lawyer back and say, "Look, listen, but I wouldn't be yet. Hey, listen. He's been on the floor for hours. Okay, listen. I wouldn't be looking at the camera, I guess. I know. >> Hello. >> What? >> Every [ __ ] hotel that we went to, we went to two of them and they said that there there is no spots. They're sold out. >> They got those races. >> Yeah, they got the races. >> Look at the microel. Yeah, look at the microtel. Look at the micro $110. >> That's $110 an amount. >> They're all going to be like that. Oh god, she's drunk. Just make a choice. >> I'll split it with you. Just go to the hotel if they got it. >> Mom, I have $30. >> You got money in savings? I will replace it tomorrow. I don't have the money with me is what I'm saying. >> Where are you? >> So, go to the bank and get it out. Kind of a [ __ ] compared to what I'm doing all >> Well, if you have if you don't have the cash with you, then just go home and get it. >> Okay. And then drive all the way back. Yep. >> It's not that far. I'm being interrogated. So, shut up. All right. Where are >> all right? Bye. >> She's I know. I don't want her there. I don't either. Just be like, I don't want to talk about it. Leave me alone. You know, just say just say, "You know what, Sarah? >> I've been through a lot. I just want to be left alone." >> I hope you can understand this, but I just need to be left alone. This is ridiculous. At this point, you should call a lawyer back. Well, they said that she said that they could leave here all night. Maybe we should just go home and talk children. say if it's going to be >> then you can go home and I'll come back but they probably won't let us back in. >> Ask them. >> Then you can go home and I'll come back. You have to let me cuz I need some No, you don't come back. >> Okay, I can take you home. Then I get a caller's phone number to come back and they're getting you a pillow or something. Soft phone. Why the hell they did it? They got something blanket for something because he's cold. >> I was told by my lawyer it would be quick. >> Well, you can use one for a pillow. Use one for a pillow, one to cover up. Yeah. If anything transpires while we're gone, you have my uh my phone number. >> Yeah. Thank you. everything that we gather from you. Okay. So the uh the DNA is just going to be swabs of your cheek. Um and um you know a copy of this will be given to you um and then you can give it to your lawyer or we'll send over to the lawyer but then your lawyer will have a chance to go over this. Okay. >> Then I will be released after. Correct. >> Um yeah. Yes. Okay. >> Because my lawyer is pretty adamant. What can I change? >> What's that? Maybe because I've been here for like 13 14 hours. Yeah. >> Okay. Um >> what can I change? I started done. >> Okay. Um All right. Just give me a second. I I had to redo that. >> Okay. >> Uh do I need to sign anything? >> No. >> Okay. I'll be right back. Okay. >> Here's this. We're waiting on your dad, right? >> Um yeah. You guys call him and tell him that I'm not released. >> Um give me a second. Um, you can do it in my home. I can do that. >> Okay. I can't. They They also got a a separate warrant to seize um your electronic in electronic devices. >> Where is that? >> That's a separate war. >> I haven't seen it. >> Okay. You'll see it. >> Okay. Huh? The warrant was pouring my pants and stuff. >> Yes. For your clothes on the house. >> The other one's already been done. >> Probably already done. >> No, not really. Just >> Well, they're going to use that for that. I guess there's another one for my electronic devices that standard mouse. I'm just telling they do the mouse. >> Yeah. >> Um they forget your DNA >> little things everywhere. They they have pictures for all of them. I don't know if they can tell Mike or not. Let me go. You know they need to have this but just keep talking. >> So then what they're doing is they're thinking you may have murdered her. >> It doesn't say anything other than that. Well, they ain't going to find nothing because I didn't do nothing. Sorry, but I didn't. I mean, they can paint whatever they want on me. Just keep it cold. soon, I guess. What did they call you? >> No, I just came back. Since he took your clothes, it shouldn't be very long. Just want to go down, man. Where's Dazzy? Sarah, >> she's drunken as [ __ ] I can use this as an excuse. I'm sure I know she's upset and everything. And I said, "Well, you know what? Everybody everybody handles a situation like that differently." >> Mhm. >> And you know, I didn't even get into it. >> Yeah. I mean, look at all the [ __ ] I got to deal with, man. You know, Do they know you're they let me in? What's wrong? The girl. Does he know you? >> Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. She wants to go home, too. >> I wanted my telephone back so I could call you and tell you. >> Well, they're not going to get that back to you. They might when you leave. No, >> but they may not. >> No, they don't >> because then more that's evidence. >> Like stupid. >> Now you understand why they're doing all of this. >> I'm just trying to make sure. Yeah. See here, these are all people. They're praying. Good. Does that help? Hundreds. I hope so. They said that there's a bunch of power. There it is. Now, her last name is Fish. You must have two witnesses, not yourself or your son. The document must be signed and dated the same time the notary signs. Maybe Michelle can do it. All right, you guys ready to go? Yes.