I I swear to god, Joe, like, I promise I can not believe it. Show you real quick. Please, you can look. I've got Please, can I show you, dude? Melly? >> So, you are you are under arrest now. >> So, this guy's been lying to us? This is It's not just me. We all do this. Like, we all do this. >> We all steal checks or >> bro. >> Y'all deposit stolen checks? >> No, I didn't No, I did not do this. >> You know about it. >> What what? >> We got we got some piece of paper that say you did it. >> I didn't I didn't I literally have been asking where is your old my god this whole time. This is crazy. They were basically only asking. This is crazy. What is going on, Joe? Like, I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING. Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE HIM AND EVERYTHING. >> YOUR name English? >> Y'all really doing this [ __ ] I just want to say that for real. We are being freaking set up, bro. This is so [ __ ] up. I didn't do this [ __ ] >> A check deposited in September, then a customer walking into a Regions Bank branch in Georgia weeks later to pull the money out. He left in handcuffs, and the whole case turns on one word, intent. The bank's fraud unit believed the check was stolen from a real, registered business. Everything the officers did next has to be measured against the law, not against how the story ends. >> I'm cold. >> I'm trying to figure out That's all I am trying to figure out. >> What? >> Go in real quick. Just put your hands behind your back. Go in and stand up. All right. >> What's >> Just We're going to talk We're going to talk We're going to have a conversation. Put your hands behind your back. Don't stand up. >> Dude, I'm I'm trying to figure out what's going on, too. >> Put your hands behind your back. Don't stand up. >> Hold on, dude. My key is out in the car. >> Okay. We'll We'll discuss We'll discuss that. Okay. >> What is What's going on? Why am I >> If you stand up, you're going to get tased. Sit down. >> I've been in a car accident. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Ow. That hurts. I was just trying to tell you that hurts. I had to >> Put your other hand behind your back. >> What is going on? What did I do? What is What's wrong? I'm trying to verify everything that's going on myself. >> Okay. Stand up for me now. >> Like, I just showed everything. >> I got one to detain. >> Detain for what? >> Have a seat. >> What did What did I do wrong? >> I'm Sir, I'm just trying to ask you what's going on. >> We're going to have a seat. >> Okay. >> They say you They say you're trying to deposit a fraudulent check. >> I'm not, though. >> Sit down. >> I'm trying to find out what's going on with the damn self. That's what I'm asking. >> Will you hang out with them, sir? >> What's the hell? >> Okay. What's going on? >> This check he deposited into this account in September. He was coming in here. He was trying to see about possibly getting money out of this account. Brandy up the line, she sent me the account number to say take a look at this. He deposited it into a personal account. He says he owns Tech Connect. He is attempting to get a thing for Tech Connect through the Secretary of State. But I went a step further. I looked up Tech Connect. They're already registered with the Secretary of State. Printed at right here. >> Okay. >> Same address for Tech Connect here and here. >> Okay. >> Okay? I looked them up Google, called the guy who actually owns this guy here. >> Mhm. >> Owen Coleman, this company, this was a check for a job that he did for this company. >> He did? >> No. >> Okay. >> Owen Coleman. >> Okay. >> He never received the funds. The check was stolen. >> Okay. >> He was able to verify the exact amount of the check that he was supposed to receive. >> Mhm. >> Everything. Who it was coming from, where the company was out of, the address of how solutions. >> supposed to be for him? >> For him. For his business, which is Tech Connect. >> Okay. >> This guy is saying that he owns Tech Connect, which he does not. >> Okay. >> He is trying to establish his company. >> number for him? >> Yeah. I just called him. And he asked me if he needed to come down here. I was trying to be careful about how much I said with cuz I want him in the office. >> Okay. >> So, um, 700 >> And that's all you got for him is the name and a phone number? >> That's his name and his phone number. I got his his address is up here. >> Do you have his wife? Okay. Oh, you Googled it. Okay. >> Googled him. I didn't get his >> That's his ID. >> Okay. >> Um, but the check is obviously stolen, he said. So, the true owner of Tech Connect receives his mail at this PO Box. He They've had mail stolen, he said, there before at the um, post office in Marietta. This was a check that was written to his business, was stolen, he never received it. >> Okay. >> He already got um, was getting the owner of the check, this guy, >> Mhm. >> Has Solutions. This guy out here says it's for jobs that he did tearing apart some cars. Has Solutions provides computer chip connectors for circuit boards. That's what they do. They have nothing to do with car, you know, repair or, you know, rip outs. From doing car work. $14,250. Um, he just told me he >> [snorts] >> He just told me He just told me that he had proof that he had the money from this Has Solutions in California. I asked him to provide it and he couldn't. He's like scrolling through his phone, "No, I have a contract. We ripped the inside interiors out of six cars and redid the interiors and that's what the money was for." >> Do you have your ID with you by any chance? >> Yeah. >> Can you He said he's got his kid out in the car. Can you Who can Who goes girl to Oh, his girlfriend? >> Yeah. >> Oh, so it's not just his kid out in the clock. >> No, I didn't have [ __ ] in my bag. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. So, anyway, I had Brandy contact our corporate security. He said call law enforcement. Have him arrested. I mean, it's clearly a stolen check. >> Yeah. What's a good uh phone number for your office here? >> Uh >> Thanks so much. >> You're welcome. And I I mean, I would think that is I mean, I can take a picture of it. I wouldn't be surprised if we get more. >> Love that stuff deposited into his account. >> He just opened the account in August. >> He did? >> Uh-huh. Yeah, he deposited into a personal account that he opened. And our corporate security had put a block on it from possible deposit fraud. So, and yeah, that was for that check. >> Okay. >> So. >> Cool. >> That's my question to you. Cuz he's either been warning you >> All right, Mr. English. Before I talk to you, I got to read you your rights. Okay, it is what it is. >> Dude, but I didn't >> Let me read you your rights. >> Dude. Yeah, but I'm not trying to I'm trying to check. I'm trying to find out if the check >> Do you want me to read you your rights or you just want to go straight to jail? >> I I don't >> You don't want to go to jail at all. I was just I forgot. >> Okay. >> You going to let me read you your rights? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him or her present with you while you're being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish. You can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. Do you understand your rights? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Where did you get the check? >> I got it from Sadie. >> From who? >> Sadie and the others, the contractor. He's a Hispanic guy, probably about his build like Mhm, not not talking judges but like a little bit heavier. Uh straight up like I've been doing work with him since I got out in April. Like I've done literally this would have been my third job with >> Who is the Who is the check made out to? >> Okay, now I've been trying to get my own entity going called Tech Connect. I wanted to do my own business going. You can I can like I said you can ask That's that's the >> Who is the check made out to? >> It's It was supposed to be made out to me but he told me that they that he used my the my business the my business name instead. So I said, "Well, but I said okay, well is that is that going to cause me a problem?" He said He told me no, it shouldn't as long as I had uh if I still had the contract that he had me and literally the other workers sign right in front of them. Like I said I said, "Yes, sir, I still have my file." Uh he said, "Well, you you might need to email that to the bank." Straight up you can ask Jamal down at the Maclin Crossing the Maclin Crossing thing uh the Maclin Crossing bank uh Regions. I sent it to him. He said, "Jermaine, this one is although we see that this is you doing the business as it's not enough. You got to go down to the Secretary of State and you got to register with them." I said, "All right, cool. Well, what he told me to do >> So let me let me ask let me ask you this. You have not filed a business as Tech Connect. You do not own a business called Tech Connect. Yes or no? >> I >> I mean yes or no, do you own a business called Tech Connect? >> No Okay, no, sir. No, not yet. No. >> So >> Well, I I I don't know though. >> It's a yes or no question. >> I I don't know though. I'm not >> The The answer is no. You don't own a business called Tech Connect. >> I I just Hold Hold on. Now, my next question is there is a gentleman that does own a business called TechConnect, okay? Hold on. After speaking with him, he has confirmed that he was supposed to receive a check in the amount of that he did not receive. Do you understand how that looks? >> I I didn't I didn't do I Bro, I didn't take nobody's nothing. I promise I I can show you my work, bro. I've got pictures of my work. >> All right. >> I I swear to God, Joe, like I promise I can I please just show you real quick. Please, you can look. I've got Please, can I show you, dude? Melly? >> So, you are you are under arrest now. All right. >> So He but he So, this guy's been lying to us? This is It's not just me. What? >> Sign up for me. I'm going to walk out that door. >> Hey, Melly, hold on. Can I not call him and him tell y'all that he was lying? >> to do that. I'm going to walk out the door walk down the stairs. >> Melly, I didn't bring a check in here or nothing like that. I just I came to make sure that this guy I wasn't doing scamming me. >> Okay. I'm going to go down the stairs. >> But Mel, what do I how do I What do I do to prove that it again that that that's not what it is? >> Well, why would the check >> What? >> be stolen? >> I I don't I didn't I didn't do none of that, though. >> So, you're telling So, hold on. You're telling Hold on. Hold on. Listen. You're telling me it's this it's this huge coincidence that the gentleman who owns a company called Tech Connect had a check stolen in the same exact amount that you did work for. >> But it's not the the amount was not just for me. It's for everybody else that's under me, too. My other >> Who's under you? >> Me, my boy Eric, uh my boy Excuse me, I'm not trying to run, but damn that's my boy Eric, my boy Derek, uh my sister. We We all do this. Like we all do this. >> You all steal checks or >> No, no, no. >> You all deposit stolen checks? >> No, I didn't I did not even know Melvin owned stolen checks. >> Okay. >> Melvin, I'm I got five kids at home, bro. I dead ass did not know. Like I I only do I only work on the side with with him on the side again on the side of my brain. >> I'm going to put you on speaker real quick. >> My brain is 95% animal subject. Like Melvin, can you freeze it? Like I I got I need to figure out something like like Like can you Like you see dude? Like I've got my region's car all that right there. I'm not making none of this [ __ ] up. I didn't >> You got rubber gloves on? >> Uh cuz again, in my work I've got to keep my my hands get dirty. I've got I've got bricks uh pliers all that. Like I can show y'all everything. Like if Can I at least show you the contract that he that we signed? So y'alls can see that it it was legit work that we just finished. Please, Melvin. >> Now you're under arrest. >> But what for what though? I didn't do nothing. Melvin, I didn't do nothing. >> Have >> to me? >> Have a seat. Yeah, I'll talk to you. in a minute. get in the car, right? So, have a seat. >> But >> Melvin, I didn't >> We're going to talk in the car. Hold on. Put your feet in. >> But I don't >> Put your feet in. >> Melvin, I'm sorry, y'all, but I'm dead ass. I didn't do [ __ ] >> in. >> Melvin, man, please, Melvin. >> Hold on. Put your knee in. >> Melvin, please, Melvin. >> Look. >> I'm I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to >> Put your knee out of the way. >> Okay. >> Melvin, please. >> All right. >> Overtime. >> Holy [ __ ] Do you have anything in that bag? >> Uh cigarettes, maybe federal, mail tools, a wallet with I guess his ID is in the federal >> I got I got his ID. >> Melvin, do you want that's XY Do you need to call anybody or you want anything from there or you you good there? >> Let me Can I talk to you real quick? Hey. >> Hi. >> Were you here with him? >> Uh I was sitting in the car. >> Okay. >> So, what is going on? >> So, does he own a business? >> Yeah. >> What's it called? >> It's called Tech Connect. >> Okay. So, he does not own a business called Tech Connect. That is actually owned by somebody else. That is It's completely different, okay? So, what happened was the gentleman who does own Tech Connect, which you can Google Tech Connect, and I'm not going to tell you his name, but you can >> Right, right, right. Exactly. Something like Google. >> the bank contacted him >> Okay. >> and said, "Hey, you know, is is this legit?" And he was like, "No. I did have a check that was made out to my company that was supposed to be mailed to this PO box, which is the PO box that's registered that Tech Connect's registered to. >> Okay. >> That check was stolen and I never received it, and it was made out in the exact amount. It's the same check that he deposited. And um so, that the check was stolen. >> Okay. >> That he So, he deposited a stolen check. I'm not sure. >> Okay. >> Has he ever done anything like that before that you're aware of? >> Not at all. >> Okay. >> So All I know is he was coming here for a money order. That's literally why I'm trying to figure out what's going on. >> Right. Okay, so when he came here and when he made that deposit with that check, a stolen check >> Okay. >> they flagged it as possible deposit fraud. >> Okay. >> Okay. So when he came here today and was trying to withdraw the money >> Uh-huh. >> they notified law enforcement. >> Okay. >> Make sense? >> Okay, yeah. >> So he's going to go down to the Pottawatomie County jail and then I'm going to go talk to the judge, get a warrant for his arrest and and that'll be that. He's definitely going to spend the night in jail overnight. Sorry if that ruined any of your plans. But >> And me thinking he's on the straight and narrow >> Was he not on the straight and narrow before? >> I mean, you know. We just have our ups and downs. So it's just kind of like, okay. >> But you're not like super surprised by this. >> Not really. >> Yeah. >> Not not really, but I'm just kind of like >> the reaction I got from him is like typical of like I got caught. So uh if you would I have the documents from the bank that like they got >> Yeah, like they >> So So I guess what >> And and the the banker actually called the owner of Tech Connect. >> Yeah. >> So and that was one of my questions to him. I don't know how much you heard inside the bank, but it was like, "Hey, Mr. English, yes or no, do you own a business called Tech Connect?" >> Right. >> He said, "No." >> Okay. >> You don't You have to register a business. >> Right. >> Well, you can't >> And that's literally why we was on the way >> So and you can't You can't register a business name if somebody's already using it. >> Oh, yeah. >> See? So if So if somebody already has a business Tech Connect. So then it's then my question to him was So are you telling me that it's a massive coincidence that a gentleman owns Tech Connect, you're trying to start a business named Tech Connect, you deposit a check in the exact same amount of money that he had a check that was stolen. >> Right. >> Like See how that the math ain't mathing? >> No, it's not mathing. It's not mathing at all. But see again >> When did he tell you that he owned a business called Tech Connect? >> Well, he's been here. Honestly >> Mhm. >> He's been he's owned multiple businesses. Cuz we have a business called The Inkwell Project that when we were married we created. >> Okay. >> I was the proprietor. We got divorced it dissolved. He's in the process of creating another business. I already have my own business. >> Okay, what do you what do you do? >> Sweet Peas Parking is the name of my business and it's registered out here in Palm Beach County. >> Okay. >> And it's registered with the Secretary of State as well. And I am registered as the owner. >> So you understand the process. >> Right, that's why I was like, "Okay, well, you're going to the bank to >> did he tell you about Tech Connect? >> He said he's been in the works for something for about like I want to say probably like the last couple of months. He's like, "Well, I need to go up to the Secretary of State." So I was like, "Well, they can just mail that to you in the next 7 days." And he was like, "Well, I need it today." I says like, "I need to go and get it today." And I was like, "Okay, well, I didn't have to go and do that. I didn't need something abruptly." So I'm like, "Okay, well, whatever you got to do." He's like, "You want to ride with me to go so I can go do it since you know exactly what I'm supposed to be doing." I'm like, "Yeah, that's fine." In the car and in the business car and in the business car And then I didn't even see the police I literally was I didn't even see any of this. He just called me and was like, "Hey, can you come in here and explain to them what it is I'm trying to do cuz they think I'm lying." And I'm like, "Okay, well, who do I got to talk to?" And I was greeted by law enforcement saying, "Can I have your ID?" And I was like, "I don't feel comfortable with giving you my ID because I didn't do anything wrong. So, I was like, do you suspect me of a crime? Cuz I didn't do anything. >> understand. >> That's that's all and now I see everything is just coming full circle. >> Is there any other questions I can answer for you today? >> Can I speak to him? >> Yeah. Come on. So, I'm going to roll his window down. He's on the other side OF MY CAR. >> MA, I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP, MA. MA, please look at me. No, I'm not making this up, Ma. Ma, I'm dead ass telling you the truth, Ma. Come on. >> What I'm going to say to you is they're going to have to charge you with something. I'm going to let you back there. I'm telling you that that's what they're going to do. This is what's going to happen cuz they do this. This is something that they're going to >> But I didn't I didn't do it. This I didn't do it. >> Okay, well, they have the fact that they have proof. >> But I didn't do it. I didn't do it. >> Okay. The thing is, do you have proof that you did not do it because that's >> Yes. >> Where is your proof? >> I was tell I tried to show it on my phone. >> Okay. Where is your phone? >> He just they they took it from me. >> Has it been confiscated or do Can I have your property and all that stuff? Do you want to release your property and whatnot to me before >> Ma, you got to take this up with them. >> Yeah. >> She can have it. >> I have to take cuz I don't want them to impound your car and all that other stuff. So, I will take it back to my >> You want to phone and all that stuff? >> Yeah, but Ma, I I didn't do it. >> Okay. >> Like I told you, I legitimately did not do it. You know I didn't do it, babe. >> All I am saying is that >> True. >> You I I do this for a living. >> I know, Mom, that's what I didn't If you think I would do Exactly, you think I would dead ass just jump and do something stupid like that? Like >> I would hope not. All I'm saying is this is a lot This is a lot. This is This is a lot is what I'm saying to you in the end. How heavy this [ __ ] going to come in that they going to try to come down on your ass? >> But Mom, I didn't do that, though. >> You forget I work for five. >> I you I did not No, I never forget. I know I know what you're telling me, Mom, but again, if I I did not do it. I did not I did not do none of that. >> Okay. >> You know I didn't do none of that. >> You say you didn't do any of these things. All I'm asking for is do you have the proof to justify your innocence? >> Yeah. >> And if you have it, where is it that I can get it because you already know, since you're on my insurance plan, you have legal representation regardless because I pay for legal, I pay for everything. >> Right. Right. >> I need all of the information that I'm All of the information that you have, I am going to need to have to be able to represent you in some type of way >> Okay, well >> to be able to get to where you're going to to to to get you going forward. That's That's what I need. >> Okay. Okay, I don't know the number by heart, but okay. Okay. >> Call to your phone. >> It's 747-333. >> All right. Okay. Okay. Is your phone in here or do they still have it? >> It's in there. >> It is? >> It's in the front pocket. >> Okay. Cuz I'm going to need whatever I like I For me to call the >> Wait, no, it's not 747. >> Yeah, I'm saying like bro, like I'm telling you for me to call all the people for me to call and cuz like I said, we have legal insurance. You still have it until December. >> But but baby, I'm not >> I'm not asking if you're lying. I just need to That you saying >> But I can't I can't I know but I can show I can literally show it right now. >> You can't you can't show [ __ ] to them right now because they not prosecuting They just about to take you >> But I >> They just about to take you, drop you off and the people that you owe money >> But baby, I literally came up here to find out that. Like I literally came up here to find out that. >> Can I show you one one thing before you go? So, you owning a business >> Yes. >> You know what you know what I'm I'm looking at here then. Tech Connect Sales Distribution, it was formed in 1993. This is the owner like >> Oh. >> You can understand >> Yeah, yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah, and and this is paper copy justifying >> Right. >> the information >> this is I mean this is something you can get off Google. I mean Do you have any questions for us? >> Can you tell me what the charge would be at this point so I >> To be honest with you >> Yeah. >> Um the fraud and forgery is not like something I know like the back of my hand. Like if you >> I'm I work for the fraud >> Right. So, I would >> Familiar with stupid >> I would venture to say it's going to be somewhere forgery first degree. >> First degree. >> Um >> And that's a felony, isn't >> Yes, it will be a felony. I mean it he passed a bad check for $14,245. So, I don't I don't know if I got to talk to the judge. It might be like theft by receiving since the stolen check. >> Theft by receiving theft by felony. Theft by receiving is a felony. >> With this amount That might That might change things as well. So But I have to sit down with a I'll be honest, I have to sit down with a law book and read over it. >> Right, exactly. >> I All I know is this is illegal. >> Right, yeah, right, right. I have I have my law book >> Right. >> at home that I that I that I am very familiar with. >> Nice and big. >> Right. Uh uh and treasury and all that other good stuff. So, now here we are trying to get him on the straight and narrow. So, this is the law. >> Do you have any other questions before I take him? Okay. All right. >> No, oh, no, I need the vehicle. I need I need the closest one. I need the >> Yeah. That's what I need. By all means >> She's taking the vehicle. >> Yeah, she's taking the vehicle. She got >> I'm taking it off. >> Yeah. All right, but you really taking it off, lady? You want your money out of it? Oh, no, I'm not. But that's what I'm saying, you can't can't show the second state thing that I live. That's all I was >> Yeah, yeah, but what I'm trying to tell you is the information that he got show that this business been in effect since before you was born. >> A year a year I'm not I never denied that. When the woman said that to me, I asked her then like what what is your what what was your what you were on? >> Okay, yeah, I need the I need I need to again be able to to get your case you're going to need to say something for documentation cuz I'm going to have to provide >> It should be right there. Can't I get a new >> for They they They They're taking you because if they got confirmed paperwork stating that you >> But I can show my confirmed paperwork that you I didn't Mom, I didn't do that. I was doing it. I literally thought I was only finishing a job. >> You're going to have to put it in writing. >> What? >> No, you're not. >> For what? For what? >> Uh out of Cobb County. >> Wait, wait, wait. What's the active date on it? What's the What's the date that's active on it? >> September 7th. >> No, I literally No, I just >> Have you talked to Ms. Chisholm? >> Yes, I literally was >> When was the last time you talked to Ms. Chisholm? >> Last week. Literally, she she came to my job. >> Huh? >> They were here too, up here. >> I I went to the the thing that I just sent you >> The driver's license I just paid the $65 shooting him. >> The original charge is violation of attacking biting animal ordinance. >> The the [ __ ] THAT I TOLD YOU THE [ __ ] PA >> HEY, MA. MA. They told Listen, they told me that they could not find that case and I've been looking for it myself. >> I I gave you paperwork, bro. I sent >> I know and I went >> Ms. Chisholm at the office. >> I told you it was a 747333 between me. >> 747333 >> Yo, I just literally >> I told your ass. >> But I just paid for it. >> You didn't pay for that. You paid for the the suspension of the driver's license, not the speeding. >> Yeah, no. I'm talking about I literally showed them everything about Rosie and all that, the rabies vaccination. I did that already. >> You didn't have to do none of that cuz when I went up there for her, you didn't have to do none of >> Because she didn't bite nobody and yours she just got out on yours. They wanted to be sure that she wasn't like sickly and all that. She was cool. >> No, it's the POINT THAT I'M SAYING TO YOU. >> MA, that's what I'm saying. I did go to court. >> I don't want to argue. I'm just telling you like this is I told you to go to court for that [ __ ] >> I did go to court. >> No, cuz you didn't go. I remember you saying you did not go because they said that there was no case, blah blah blah blah blah. >> Right, but I again, that's what That was that time. But when you said what you said, >> [laughter] >> I took heed to it and I went down there myself. >> Okay, bro. >> I went down there. I showed them the video. >> They got the information and they So, right now you about to go to holding, right? They going to have a charge, right? And then when holding decide to release you for the legal information that that whatever it is, they going to release you to Cobb County and Cobb County going to hold you and they going to >> All they got to do is look at the >> You can tell them all that they will want you All they got to do but they going to do their job. >> But I did it >> Somebody did their job at Cobb County because you didn't come to court and they decided to put a warrant out because you didn't come to court. >> But I didn't go to court. I literally I As a matter of fact, I got the papers I got the >> That's what I'm saying. Think about it. Where are the papers at? Because all this information I'm going to need. >> think Pat I think I sent a copy to Pat, you know, the the rehab man. I think I sent a copy to him. And >> A copy of what What paper What paper? What paper? >> The the the finishing the thing that [laughter] the the finishing >> So, your rehab the sober living place What's going on? Is this Is this happening to you right now? >> I mean, I'm pretty sure, yeah. I have to let them know because they >> Well, I just deleted all the [ __ ] jail apps off my phone. >> My I did >> money on your phone? You have $100 on your phone? You paid it already? >> I paid it to the Secretary of State. Like that's what Jamal That's what the the That's what the the Regions branch manager at on Macland Crossing told me to do. >> The charge is going to be forgery in the third. Third degree. >> Forgery in the third? Okay. >> And it is >> I didn't I didn't forge nothing. I didn't >> You received it into your bank account. So, >> I I did cuz I was doing a job. That's it. I was just trying to make money doing stressing about more money. >> I get it. Well, I got to get out of this hot sun and figure out what the [ __ ] to do now. >> No, that's what I'm saying. Like there's got to be something we can do. >> Nothing that can be done now until you go through the system. >> But that's just I didn't do [ __ ] >> You're already arrested. You're going to have to go through the system, bro. Like that's just That's That's protocol. That's just protocol. You got to go through the system. And then you got to get your way out. >> But then you >> I'm telling you that this is this is just You know You know this. This is protocol. >> But I didn't >> I'm going to have to pull off. They're going to have to take you over to Fulton County. You're going to be booked tonight. We'll find We'll figure out how to maneuver tomorrow. You'll get a phone call. You'll be able to call me and figure out what the [ __ ] to do from here. But as of right now, I can't do anything and they can't do anything because they're not going to be the ones prosecuting you. >> But I didn't I didn't >> Whatever proof that you have, I will go through and I will look and and whatever. Just breathe. >> But I didn't That's my thing. I didn't >> asking you, Jay. I'm not asking you. That's all I'm >> But I just We just started healing together. >> That's what I mean. So you So you know damn well I would not do nothing. >> I'm just telling you what the police are going to do. So you can figure some [ __ ] out. But as of right now, you are acquiring another felony. You know what the [ __ ] they finna do. >> But I didn't do it. >> Okay, so you're going to have to prove that you didn't. >> What What What >> It is what it is. You're going to have to prove that you didn't. >> But I didn't >> You have a lawyer. Prove that you didn't. But until then, they're going to make you sit because you know your you know your your prior. >> But no But no No, bro. I didn't do that. NO, BRO. NO, I didn't do it. Bro, I didn't not do that. No, bro. That's what >> They got some pieces of paper that say you did it. >> But I didn't. I literally have been asking where is your all my cash this whole time. It's It's literally records of me asking. This is crazy. What is going on, YO? LIKE I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING, YO. I'M DOING THE RIGHT THING. I'M DOING EVERYTHING. HELP ME, PLEASE. BRO, CAN YOU TALK to me, please? Like I cannot make up my mind on this [ __ ] Like this IS WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? WHAT WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT? BUT THEN NO, I'M SORRY, BROTHER. I don't understand what How How is me trying to chase my account? How do How How What IS LIKE HOW? BUT I DID NOT DEPOSIT IT. That was the plan I was MAKING TO HER. I LITERALLY I LEGITIMATELY SAID THAT to her. She said, "It says here about this." I said, "I know it, and mine should be this." But I have the the the Like Like I said, like I literally paid the for the secretary of state fees so I can keep my account open. That is it. I'm not trying to keep nothing. I knew something was wrong. I knew something was wrong with the jump. I I told her that it's crazy. And I reported my car stolen and everything. LIKE LIKE WHAT HOW? I CAN'T WRAP MY MIND AROUND THIS, YO. LIKE what is happening? Please, brother. Please, brother. You got to help me with this. I got to figure out something, brother. Like you just You see here, I just I JUST FIXED EVERYTHING. Like I just literally busted my ass, yo. Like That's it. I need to GET THE HOURS. OH, THIS IS NOT REAL. THIS IS not real. Somebody wake me up. Oh, I didn't take MY MEDICINE EITHER. OH MAN, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, PLEASE. >> HELLO, Dallas 1 mail. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. Ma'am, please, you like >> nothing I can do. >> Ma'am, but I didn't I didn't do nothing. >> Then why does it look like you did? >> But that's my point. I'm trying to fix the fix that. They were trying to close my account and I got everything to make deposits into that account, everything. I let I let the Bridge Basics know that my car was stolen. I did all of that. The only reason why I went to that specific region was because I just picked her up from the house. That's it. It was the closest one. I wanted to say hey, I got to go and prove that I'm this this version because they're trying to say that I'm that version and I'M NOT. BUT I never claimed to be him. I I never did. I'm That's why I kept saying I'm my I'm taking the LLC Germain like the student technical Germain English LLC. I've been saying that. And you can look it up. Like I paid She gave me $100 to pay for it and everything. >> For what LLC? >> For taking the LLC Germain English. Like Excuse me, it's taking the It's three names, right? They made me pick three names. The first one I was It's on I chose taking the LLC. Boom, right? The second one I chose uh a Technic Germain English. uh, LLC. Then the third one, I put it uh, TechNet j.e. LLC. Like, again, that's it. Like, I promise, I've been working with my business manager my business manager and Jamal, another teller, I guess. I don't know what his position is on creating my business. I On the side of me working with the animal shelter, I I do upgrades on cars. I do car audio. I do the cameras, like I was telling you. I do the speakers. I do all that. Like, I do up That's it. Like, I wasn't trying to bite this man's Like, nothing like that. I wasn't trying to do nothing like that. It went Like I told her, that That is what raised the flag with me. And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing, because I They threatened to close my account. That's it. I wanted I wanted to be sure that my account stayed open, and that whoever got Like, that Whatever Whatever got it closed got it rectified. Like, I didn't even know the the amount of the signature until you said it. Like, I'm not making this up. Like, >> Okay. Uh, so, obviously that was, uh, deposited and, uh, freezing up. >> But you You can You can look at whoever deposited it. Wasn't it me? Like, look at the cameras. No, it wasn't me. IT WASN'T ME. NO, IT WASN'T ME. LIKE, what is going It wasn't me. I swear it wasn't me. Oh, like, PLEASE. IT WASN'T ME. I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT. OH, I CAN'T BREATHE. OH, I CAN'T BREATHE. I'M GOING TO DIE. PLEASE, I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT OPEN. I WAS JUST TRYING TO PULL IT. IT WASN'T ME. THAT I WAS TRYING TO DO. YOU CAN CALL BUILDING AND GROUNDS. PLEASE, JUST CALL BUILDING and grounds. You can ask the camera. Hey, man, you can call You can call tomorrow. And you can see You're from You're here from another region's operator, whatever that I That is I'm telling you the truth. It was never me. I never deposited [ __ ] Like I did not deposit nothing. That's what I was trying to find out. Bro, this is crazy. Like I didn't do this [ __ ] I didn't even do this [ __ ] Seriously, like I didn't do it. I didn't do this [ __ ] >> I just want to let you know I'm recording you. >> Push to talk, right? Jermaine English? I didn't do this [ __ ] I need somebody to hold me or I'll be freaking set off, bro. >> Yeah, hold on. Talk to me, all right? >> I'm sorry, bro. I didn't hear my baby. Yeah, that's what I was already doing. >> All right. I'm going to talk to >> This is so [ __ ] up. I didn't do THIS [ __ ] REALLY, HOW DO I PROVE that I didn't do anything wrong? I didn't do anything wrong. This is not what I did. >> All right. I don't know what's going on, all right, but let's get through this process first, all right? >> I don't know. I'm so scared to go in here, but I didn't do [ __ ] I didn't do nothing wrong. I just I was just trying to just be sure that my account was safe and that I wasn't doing that This [ __ ] like this wasn't going to ever happen. I just I just came up here with a document to prove that it was that I'm me and this ain't right. Like straight up. >> All right, so I just got to ask you a few questions, all right? Have you traveled recently outside the US? >> No, man. >> All right. Do you have a fever or chills? >> I I don't I don't know, man. I don't This is my This is my I'm taking my medicine at night. >> All right. >> I don't >> Do you have any other flu-like symptoms? >> I don't know my if if it's about COVID thing, but I don't I I I don't have COVID. I don't I don't think I've been around anybody with COVID, nothing like that. >> All right. >> Come on, man. >> I should have you step out of the vehicle. I GOT YOU. ALL RIGHT, WATCH YOUR STEP. DO YOU WANT TO WALK UP THIS WAY? >> START with the arrest itself. Georgia officers can make a warrantless felony arrest when they hold probable cause, a fair probability, judged on everything known in that moment, that a crime occurred. That standard comes from the Supreme Court's totality of the circumstances approach in the Gates decision. It asks for reasonable belief, not certainty, and far less than proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The older Beck ruling set the floor, and it is a real one. A hunch does not cut it. There have to be facts a reasonable person would actually credit. Here the officers had more than the bank's say-so. They reached the true owner of the company named on the check who confirmed a stolen check in the same amount mailed to the same registered address. That independent confirmation is what lifts the suspicion into probable cause. Match the amount, match the address, match the payee, and the fair probability threshold is met. Then came the Miranda warning. Before any custodial questioning, the officer read it in full silence. Counsel, the works, and confirmed the man understood. One line lands wrong. Asking whether he wants his rights read or wants to go straight to jail is coercive theater, even if the warning itself was complete and properly given. And then he talked. He waived his silence and kept explaining. Which matters because a warning protects a choice. It does not erase the words a person decides to say. Under the Innis line of cases, voluntary statements made without interrogation stay admissible. Every unprompted sentence he offered can come back in front of a jury. Now the heart of it. Both charges the officer floated live or die on one thing: what was inside the man's head when he handled that check. Theft by receiving stolen property, under Georgia's code, requires that he knew or should have known the check was stolen, not that he held it, that he knew. First-degree forgery needs intent to defraud plus making or passing a false writing. Depositing a check stripped of that guilty intent is not the crime. His account is a direct attack on the knowledge element. A contractor paid him for real work, wrong business name on the check. It may lose at trial, but it squarely raises the question. Probable cause and innocence are not opposites. Officers can lawfully arrest on a fair probability while the person they cuff is telling the truth. Both can hold at the same moment. The dollars decide the grade of the offense. Georgia treats theft as a felony once the value clears $1,500 and $14,245 blows past that line. There is a lesser bad check theory in the deposit account fraud statute, but it fits poorly here. The allegation is a stolen instrument, not a personal check that bounced. Watch what the officer does not do. He declines to lock in the exact charge on the sidewalk, planning to consult a judge and pull a warrant instead. That restraint is a feature, not a stumble. Sorting forgery from theft by receiving is a prosecutor's call, and freezing the wrong charge on scene only invites suppression later. Back up to the detention. He was cuffed and told to sit before anyone told him why, which the law tolerates during a brief investigative stop. Handcuffs alone do not convert a stop into a full arrest, so long as the restraint stays proportional to the safety concern in front of the officer. The taser warning falls under the objective reasonableness test from the Graham decision. Force is judged through the eyes of a reasonable officer in the moment, not with hindsight. A spoken warning, no device deployed, sits near the bottom of the force continuum. The wrinkle is a subject claiming injury and pain while being told to stay down. None of this makes him guilty. He was arrested, not convicted, and the presumption of innocence rides with him out of that lot and into any courtroom. The bank ran a private investigation, and a thorough one. Officers still owe an independent look at the underlying records before prosecutor commits to charges. The arresting officer earns a strong mark. Corroborated probable cause, a clean rights advisement, restrained force, pulled down only by the coercive phrasing and thin care for a man in crisis. The subject's deepest legal wound was self-inflicted. He stayed non-violent and cooperative, then waived his silence and narrated his own case out loud. The bank's fraud team did the work that holds a probable cause arrest together, verified owner, matching amount, matching address. The agency's weak spot was crisis response, not law. The lesson for anyone stopped is old and unglamorous. Say you are invoking your right to silence, ask for a lawyer, and stop performing your innocence out loud. If the defense is a paper trail, that paper trail belongs with a lawyer, not shoved at an officer on the scene. Evidence wins cases in a courtroom, not on a curb. For officers, the takeaway is discipline. Build the probable cause on facts you can name, skip the coercive script, and let the prosecutor choose the charge. The durable point possession is not the crime, knowledge is. Where intent is the whole ballgame, an arrest is a beginning, not a verdict. Whether the state can prove that knowledge is a question for another day and another forum. The footage shows the arrest, not the answer. Tell us in the comments which interaction or legal issue you want broken down next. Thanks for watching and check out the channel for more police interaction and courtroom analysis.