He's going to probably say that you also had a gun or something just to eliminate that. Do you have one in the car or on you? >> He had a G37. I guess he was a sports guy cuz even his license plate said G37. Luckily, I mitigated it by turning my car at the exact same perfect time and then he still sped off. >> So, you were following him? >> No. >> He was following you? >> No. Now, this way this happened as well. >> Okay. Did you guys ever like get out of the cars or anything like that? >> You yell at him at the light or whatever you guys got into it at the light. >> All it was was verbal. He ever he ever pull any weapons out on you or anything like that? No. >> Did you pull any weapons out on him? >> No. Okay. >> You guys are hired, though. >> Uh, real quick, you swear and affirm everything you said is true and correct? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. >> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used in court as evidence against you? >> It's like, bro, when I say he was calling ass and then I saw the Infinity is a G. Even his license plate sale G37s, I said, you got your license plate rep your car. Okay. And all I hear is he's driving reckless still. the way he's switching through lanes. He's literally like I'm like, "You know you driving reckless." He looking at me like, "I don't care." >> So, the only time you had words with him was at that red light on the main road. Do you remember exactly what was said between the two of you? >> I told him, you know, you driving reckless, that car is quick to hit. You're holding that and it's like losing our lives. >> That's what you said to him. >> Yeah. That's why I say I ain't going that deep. I said, you know, you could have hit me and caused a big accident. That's what I said. >> Okay. Anybody get out of the car or anything like that? Not him. Not you. Nobody approached anybody. He's saying that y'all pulled off of the main road there. Um, you followed him, ended up in a neighborhood, right? Uh, was there any kind of verbal altercation in the neighborhood at all? >> Yes. >> No, I was just talking to him like this through the window. >> What happens if I tell you we know you got out of your car? Certain things are leaving out just to see how honest you're being with us. Look at me. I'm telling you that you were out of your car. So, why you going to [ __ ] me? Hey, listen. Look at me. >> Take a second. Take a deep breath. Try and remember everything. >> Honestly, I didn't want to say it, but yes, I did. >> Why wouldn't you want to say it? >> I'm just nervous because I don't want to get in trouble. I'm going be honest with you. >> Why would you get in trouble? >> I don't know. If I know you got your car, I might know a couple other things. >> Yep. >> So, when you got out of your car, what did you do, sir? And what did you have? That's what it was. >> No, I'm trying to remember. Did I have before I even open my mouth? >> No, you're smart, man. That's how I know you had the gun in your hand outside your pocket. Okay. So, tell me why you had your gun out. Why'd you get out of the car with the gun out in your hand? >> No, I only got out of my car once. I can literally honestly say that. >> Okay. Let me ask you this. Did you cut him off the second time at a stop sign? >> No. Now, at the stop sign to get >> I know he was in front of you, but I'm asking you, did you go Yeah. Listen, feel me out. I know he was in front of you, but when he came to the stop sign, what did you do with your car? Because we know about the whole getting out of the car and the gun, all that stuff. So, what what did you say to him specifically about maybe being a firefighter? >> I said, "Yeah, I worked for the government, bro. Like, I'm a firefighter." Like, >> but you also said something else. What' you tell him you're a police officer for? Was that a slip or did you accidentally say that or >> That was a slip. >> Okay. >> I meant first responder firefighter. I didn't mean it. >> But you said I'm a firefighter and a police officer. >> Yes. I apologize. All right. That was that was >> But you know you shouldn't do that, right? >> Yes. I was talking too quickly. >> That was that was definitely my fault. >> Did you point the gun at him? >> No. >> Where'd you have the gun at? >> I had a gun in my hand. >> Have you ever been a uh victim or involved in a road rage incident ever before in your life? >> I've been in there once. >> When was that? How long ago was that? >> That was probably like 3 months ago. Four months ago. >> Three or four months ago. What happened during that? >> I'm going to jail. Oh, I'm going to lose my job. >> Listen, my brother's a firefighter. lose my job. >> Listen, >> my brother's a firefighter, so I respect firefighters. >> Please, >> listen. Listen, you have to make better judgments. >> Hello, babe. I'm going to jail. >> Hello. >> Hello, Lieutenant Williams. >> Yeah, >> this is firefighter Woods. >> You are going to jail? >> Yes, sir. >> But you think this would be a felony? >> Uh, it is. And I'm going to tell you right now, it's aggravated assault with firearm. >> No felonies. >> Yeah. I don't know how it is on y'all's side, but we have people to do all kinds of stuff and get there and don't even get fired or whatever. >> The guy wanted to press charges or something. >> He did. >> On a routine evening in Nashville, Tennessee will begin as a traffic dispute over reckless driving escalated into a felony investigation when a firefighter trainee allegedly brandished a firearm during a road rage incident. The suspect, who was preparing for his National Firefighter Certification Exam, found himself on the wrong side of the law after allegedly following another driver, blocking them at a stop sign and displaying a weapon. This footage obtained through public records reveals how a momentary lapse in judgment can jeopardize an entire career and demonstrates the delicate balance officers must maintain when interrogating suspects about serious felony charges. The initial approach by officers appears casual and conversational, but this is a calculated investigative technique designed to gather information before the suspect realizes the severity of the situation. The officers begin their investigation with open-ended questions about the incident. Notice the suspect's initial version. He claims the other driver was operating a G37 Infinity recklessly nearly causing an accident. He emphasizes that the confrontation was purely verbal at a red light where he allegedly told the other driver they were driving dangerously. Under Tennessee Code section 3913102, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon is a class C felony carrying potential prison time of 3 to 15 years. The officers need to establish not just that a weapon was present, but that it was displayed in a manner intended to place the victim in fear of imminent bodily injury. The suspect's repeated denials about weapons and getting out of his vehicle are significant. These lies will later demonstrate consciousness of guilt. that bad? >> Yes. >> Yeah. But we're going to try to see if he's got something for Okay. Yeah. I just called them and um they're still working on meeting with that guy. Typically when stuff like this happens, it's like >> he's Yeah, he's going to probably say that you also had a gun or something just to eliminate that. Do you have one in the car or on you? Not at all. Okay. Do you mind if we search you in the car just to make sure? Okay, cool. Sweet. Yeah, I'm not going to put your handcuffs or anything, but sweet. Um, >> this I wish I had one. So, >> yeah. No, for sure. I got you. >> Yeah. Abs. >> Absolutely. I And if that's the case, then what you did is absolutely unacceptable. Firefight Lake. >> Yeah, we're going to take care of that. >> Just leave it right there. Thank you. >> Do you live nearby? >> No, my friend lives in this community that I was going to visit him. >> Oh, gosh. >> And I'm pretty sure the the people that, you know, he got out of the car in front of his house. Pretty sure they have cameras. >> Yeah, I think. Hang on. Let me get out. I think this is simple enough. For the record, I'm going to go when this guy comes up just cuz >> possibly a firefighter. >> Well, it's possibly an [ __ ] >> [ __ ] Hey, what's up, man? >> Fire station. Where do you want me to park at? >> We can bar right here. This place closed. >> Okay, >> you're good, man. >> How you guys doing? >> Good, man. >> Man, I work at this fire station, right? So, I got my gear here and one of my other co-workers called me. They're like, "Bro, let me get outside. Come get it." So, I'm driving back from um what area? Winter Garden area by almost by UCF. Coming back over here. So, as I'm on a 408, this car was driving so reckless. He had a G37. I guess he was a sports guy cuz even his license plate said G37 OGS and I'm like okay I already see what it's going he almost annihilated my car and like two other cars I'm saying like this is what I go through. This is what I as a firefighter most of our calls most of y'all calls like okay we going to another car accident. Mhm. >> So, moreover, okay, we got from, you know, luckily I mitigated it by turning my car at the exact same the perfect time to where the other car is looking at him like and then he still sped off. Now, guess what? We end up getting up on the same ex stop sign making us meet up at each other. Same section and I'm sitting there like, "Okay, I got to find a detour." Even though this not my main station, I'm usually on the east side at station 71 on Golden Rod and stuff, right? >> So, I'm like, "Okay, I don't know this area. I got to admit it. I just got to get around this guy. We got accident might happen with this guy. So now we at the stop sign and we looking at me like >> do you remember where that stop sign was? >> I was trying to every time she asked me for a where cuz it's not my main fire station. I'm actually looking at stuff like >> right >> dang what? Like cuz I don't know it. Then I had to literally pull up here and look, oh this is Avalon and something street. So you guys can get the exact location. But then the guy was like, "Oh, I mean, you know, our shirts, our regular shirts have our badge on it and stuff." He like, "Oh, yeah. [ __ ] I said, "No, first of all, it's not like that. Second of all, like, bro, you driving a wreck. [ __ ] you." >> He used to be off by that time. I already took a picture of his license. >> So, did you guys You don't remember? So, you get off the four, right? Onto I'm guessing Colonial. He's Colonial 50. >> I think so. >> Do you remember where you guys ended up from there? Did you guys turn anywhere or >> me following the PS? We did a couple of turns. >> So you were following him? >> No. >> He was following you? >> No. Now this where this where happened as well. Now as we we um like I said we at the stop the stop light. He talking to snack. I'm like bro you driving reckless. He was following me because ain't no way you come by the fire. You know the close to the station. I'm saying like you're not going to come to my station. I hit a U-turn and everything and I'm on the phone like you know he's following me like I'm not too comfortable with this at this moment I'm not really too comfortable. She said well it's not against the law and I was like okay and then me just looking at him as he followed me then he just basically ran away. >> Okay. Did you guys ever like get out of the cars or anything like that? So you just yelled at him at the intersection with the light. I said I'm like, "Yo, you driving reckless." Like, "You know you driving reckless. Like, are you good?" From what I can tell, like I said, when he almost hit a couple of cars, he freaked me out. I was like, >> and then for him almost to hit >> Where was it taking you? You said your GPS was taking you somewhere. Was it taking you here? >> Yes. >> This station, >> Orange County Station 87. >> Okay. >> I always use a GPS cuz this is not my main. >> Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I get And when I say the whole thing like this car sensors got beat say beep beep beep. And I'm looking at him and I'm sitting there like he ain't gonna be able to slow that car down fast enough as he's behind me. >> Yeah. >> And he couldn't because I'm like is he looking at his phone or something going that fast? There was a car right here but luckily they were a little bit ahead of me to where I was able to move the nose of my car a little bit and basically let you fly by and then see fly by and he almost hit another car in front of us. It's in the light. >> Okay. >> Do you have your ID on you real quick? >> Yes, sir. >> Um, >> do you have any weapons or anything? You have any guns, anything? >> Yep. >> You got a firearm? Okay. >> Yep. >> Where's it at? Just so we know. >> Right over here in the back of the passenger. >> Okay. >> My fire license, gun license, driver license, >> actually. Can I see all all three? It'll make it easier. All right. So, you guys I mean, you're you yelled at him at the light or whatever you guys got into it at the light. >> All it was is verbal and I just called just cuz like I say at that moment, he already made me nervous. Right. >> That's really what it is. At that moment like >> he ever he ever pull any weapons out on you or anything like that? No. >> Did you pull any weapons out on him? >> No. Okay. >> All right, man. Just give me a quick second. All right. No problem. >> Cuz he's he's out with one of our other deputies. So, let me go call him real quick and see what everyone needs to do. >> Are you going to another station tonight? >> Um, no, not right now. >> Okay. So, you're off? >> Um, yeah. They might do a call in because I supposed to be picking up another shift before school tomorrow. >> Okay. I got a test tomorrow for my national. >> I'll let that expire. It's expiring in a few months. >> Which one? >> Your uh CCW. It happened quick. I I had that happen with mine, so just careful. I'll just just give this guy something to do for a little bit. I'm going to tell him I need a statement from him. Um that way I'll just let him put his [ __ ] on there. I'll get the gun. I'll if I can take a picture, I'll send it to you. But other than that, I mean, just let me know, I guess. >> No. All right. I mean, I'll get him on a statement and we'll kind of go from there. I know it sounds I need a statement from you. Just defending your side of all this. Yes, sir. >> It'll help you out. Trust me. >> No. Um, so if you want, let me get paperwork. If you want to meet me over here at the truck, I'll have you do it over here real quick and we'll we'll knock it out. >> You guys are hiring them. >> [ __ ] we're always hiring. >> My brother is coming for >> Oh, yeah. I told him about the >> Yeah, that's not It's not the best here. All right. All I need is right here in that uh blank line, just first and last name. And basically, today's date, uh, December 12th. Um, just like you told me, you you finished working up here today. >> Yes. >> Okay. Same thing. You working up here at the station working 87. You left. One of the guys called, said you forgot some of your gear, turned around, came back. Um, noticed him driving breakfast. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Wherever you guys had your verbal arguments, whatever happened. All right. And then I'll uh if you want to use the hood of the car, you can or whatever. >> So, I'm still on. What do we got so far? We got to update the lieutenant. >> So, you got history. History doesn't quite make sense. They do turn the property. What else you want to quick? >> Just that nobody ever got out of the car. The it was just verbal arguments through the uh like through the window or however you want to word that. Uh real quick, you swear and affirm everything you said is true and correct. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. If I get a full autograph right here. >> Let me Hang on. I need the front page, too. Pages. >> Hang tight. Let me go talk to him real quick. >> What's your name? >> Anthony Wood. >> I was just talking to the other guy over there and I got all his stuff and I just want to come over and talk to you again. I know they all did, but uh just so I can hear it. But since uh he's saying what he said and we've had you here for so long, before I do that, I just have to read you your brain rights. So, Constitution requires that I inform you that you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be used in court as evidence against you? >> Do you understand these rights? >> Yes. >> Do you wish to talk to us now? >> Yeah. >> Cool. Uh what happened? >> Reckless driver. >> Okay. And the crazy part is like me coming from South Florida, we used to fast cars. We like fast cars. But me and being in his career, that's most of our car. Like people get dead. And even me, I was in a bad I was in a coma for 6 months. I broke my whole arm. I broke my whole leg. I broke my left ocular, my jaw. But you know, I usually, you know what I'm saying? So me being one of the guys that suffered from that and being a firefighter, it's like, bro, when I say he was calling ass and then I saw the Infinity as a G, even his license plate said, I'm beyond from me, dick, G37s, I say you even got your license plate represented in your car. Okay. All right. But when I say he was speeding, and the great thing about these new cars, sensors and cameras everywhere. So all I hear is I'm driving on the 408 and all I hear is And I'm looking like, is this my left? Because the left, the light blinks right here. Right here. If it's left or right, if somebody about to hit you. I looked at the camera, you know, the mirror, the the um video in there, and I said he was calling that ass up to me. And realistically, me knowing the momentum of that car, he wasn't going to be able to stop before he teared my ass up. It was a call to the right of me, just a little bit of like this. Now, you see how that's a little separate, but I was on the left side of the car. And me looking at him, I'm sed like, "Oh, I'm not for what can I do?" The car next to me was too close. Couldn't move to the left. Luckily, I was in the middle lane. So, as I'm driving, I was able to maneuver a little bit without hitting this car. And I guess everybody noticed like, "Hold up, the way he moved something, but then they see this G37 lying by, but it was the car in front of me. He almost hit that car." Luckily, they moved out the way. So, he's calling that. I'm sitting there like at that time I'm sitting like oh I need to call because this is 408 this is a mass casualty you got to deal with we deal with this way too much like and me thinking like innocent people for the because you want to be like you're not going to do that >> so at that moment now me like I told you guys I'm from 71 on the east side which is where golden rod and hawk this is my first time over here with this station being new like we were saying the station new my lieutenant is over here and all I'm like okay so I had to use GPS He has 100%. I don't even notice her. I'm GPSing it out and come to find out we getting off of the same exit. I'm sitting there like he's still homeless. I'm sitting there like But what keeps you stopping him is stop signs at this moment cuz you're not on the highway or red light. >> Where was this at at this point? So you said you're on 408, right? >> Yes. The um I4. Yeah. 48 cuz it took me east and west. That goes east and west, correct? >> Yes. Because it took me way over here. It was 408 >> and then I was able to do >> You know where on 408 or where you got off or anything like that? still learning my since it's not my normal first do. >> Yeah. >> I still got to learn everything about every station and every street. >> Okay. So, what happened when you pulled off the highway? >> So, when I pulled off, we we passed the stop sign, was able to go and then we both reached to stop light and then the stop light turned green and then we kept going and I'm like, "Hold up. We're going in like the same direction. This time he's a little in front of me. He's not behind me or nothing." I'm sitting there like, you know what? He's driving reckless still. the way he's switching through lanes. He's literally like, "Oh, let me get out of here. Let me get out of here because the traffic." I'm like, I already done took a picture of his license. I'm like, I ain't going to be able to remember. Oh, black car this, this, or this. I'm like, okay, I got to quickly do something. He moving so fast. I was able to get a little picture. Okay, good. I'm on the phone. I call 911. Okay, this car almost hit me, etc. They're driving a little reckless. And um I'm a little nervous cuz literally he almost annihilated me. like literally like you know made me that nervous to why I had to call at that point. So I'm like you almost annihilated me etc. The lady like okay you know where you and I'm like at this moment I told you I had left my fire gear at the station. So my other firefighter coworker like bros you know you left your gear. So that's the reason why even though I already had got off I had to come back around and come back over here to actually get my gear. So that's when me and him, you know, went through the whole So as I'm following the GPS back, >> we actually got to a stop sign. No, actually a red light. And I'm sitting there like he's on the left of me. I'm like, you know, you driving reckless. He looking at me like, I don't care. I'm like, bro, you honestly I'm like, you you're a dick. But overall though, it's lies you put in state. You're using your car as a freaking weapon. You don't understand that. Like literally how you driving, you driving between big trucks and cars. I'm saying like my anxiety going up cuz I'm sitting there like this happen. I'm like this should happen and I'm like and then me knowing the whole aspect of it. I'm like you guys are always moving and busy. So I'm saying like it'll be good if one of them catching right now if I'm on the phone like oh yeah in this area. But then she kept asking me the streets and me not knowing this first door I'm saying like oh I got to wait I get to another street another area. >> You said that was at a light right? >> Yes. At the light we already started. you on like a main road or >> this this is this is still main road. We're not in the back street yet. >> Okay. >> Now then he hit a turn and my GPS hit me with a turn. So it's like we're almost going in the same area of each other and I'm sitting there like like uh me not knowing this area is I'm only following my GPS. So I don't get caught in an area that I don't have no clue >> and I just don't know. >> So at this point I guess he thought I was following him >> and I'm sitting there like what? So what I did is hit a U-turn as we Yeah. I hit a turn and then I hit a U-turn. Then I noticed he was following me. I'm sitting there like, "Hold up. Is he following me?" That was just a guess. I'm like, and I'm still on the phone. I said, "Hold up." And I start playing with him like I'm sitting there like, "I'm not going to take him back to the station. I'm not going to take him nowhere near anything that deals with me." And I'm like, and she like, "Get to a safe place." When she said that, that's all like fire station. But then I'm like, "No, I don't want him around nothing." Like, you know what I'm saying? That's that's my personal space. So then I hit another turn. I'm like, "Oh, he's really following me." Then I'm on the phone with her. I'm like, "Okay, I'm freaking out." You know, he's following me, right? >> Do you know where that turn was? Do you remember anything that was around businesses or anything like that? >> Following GPS, trying to move quick and being on the phone without crashing. I was just like, "Okay." >> Okay. >> And the lady was like the off the dispatcher was like, "Yeah, he's following you, but that's not illegal, even though it's unsafe." And I'm like, "Right." I said, "You know, it made sense cuz I never heard." I'm like, "Okay, that's a good one. That's something I got to keep saying now. I never heard of it individually. So, at that moment, I guess he kept following me and I was not going to my station. I'm sitting there like, "Okay, keep driving on the street. Keep driving." And then he just turned off and that was the end of it. Then I was like, "Okay." I told the lady, I looked at my GPS. It said Avalon Park or something. And then I looked at the Cross Street Hill something. And then that's why I told her that's where station 87 is. That's where I'm going to be in this area. Get my station getting my stuff. And that was basically it. >> So the only time you had words with him was at that red light on the main road. >> Yeah. When we actually stopped next to each other and was like, "Yo, you you drive like that." And then when I drove off, I drove off first cuz it's green. I'm like, "You know what? I ain't going to win with you." And then that was it. >> Okay. Do you remember exactly what was said between the two of y'all? >> I told him, "You know, you driving reckless." He like, "No, what? What the fuck?" Like, "Man, what man? Shut up, man. What are you talking about?" Like, you was just like defensive. like, "Bro, you're in this. I know the horsepower on your car. That car is quick as [ __ ] You're hauling ass." And it's like, you and I said, "You know, you could have annihilated me if I didn't dodge you and then I would have hit this other truck next to me and then mass casualty." What? He was in our lives. >> That's what you said to him. >> Yeah, that's what I say. I ain't going that depth. I said, you know, you could have hit me and caused a big accident. That's what I did. Okay. >> And that was the end of it. He was like, >> whatever. Was he threatening you or anything? Or is it just F you? >> Okay. Like, man, [ __ ] you. Whatever. I'm sitting there like, that was it. >> Okay. Anybody get out of the car or anything like that? Not him, not you. Nobody approached anybody. >> As like I said, as I'm sitting right here and I'm talking to him, that was it. It was like, no. >> Okay, gotcha. I don't know how much they told you, but um he's saying that y'all pulled off the main road there. Um you followed him, ended up in a neighborhood, right? Do you know anybody on this side of town or anything like that? I mean, you might have been near or I mean far. >> Okay. You said you never went off the main road at all like the highway. >> No, >> not the highway. 408 highway, but like >> the regular Yes. The GPS took me through some turns or whatever. Like I said, I don't really >> How far off of That's East Colonial there, right? >> The big one. Okay. Do you know how off or how far off East Colonial you went? If you had to guess, >> Was it miles? Was it just up to the next next U-turn >> like like I would say a good turn like a good half a mile. >> It was it was the way it was taking me through these back streets and let you change from Apple Maps to Google Maps. They show you different you know what I'm saying? >> That's what it was. It took me through a little turn. I'm sitting there like, "Oh, I don't like this cuz um I don't know where I'm at." >> Was it just back streets or did you end up in a neighborhood at all? >> It was a neighborhood. >> Okay. But you don't remember where? >> I don't remember where. >> Okay. Gotcha. Uh, was there any kind of verbal altercation in the neighborhood at all? >> Yes. >> Okay. What was said there? >> What was said there when, like I said, when I hit a U-turn and weird literally made, I'm like, "Yo, what's up with you?" He's like, "No, [ __ ] you." I'm sitting like, "Bro, like I that's what I'm telling you. You know, like you driving reckless. Do you understand this?" And me doing a general impression. I'm like, "He's not drunk. Why are you acting like that?" Like, you able to control that car very good. I guess you can happen to be speed guy. And then at that moment, I'm like, man, whatever. Like, ain't nothing going for come out of this, but let me at least let the police officers know your license plate or something so if you, you know, at least you can get stopped and we can make sure you don't hit nobody and mitigate the situation before it even happened. That was the only thing, the reason why I called the police. >> Okay. Were you on the phone to 911 the whole time? >> Yes. >> The entire time? >> The entire time. >> Okay. Gotcha. J the lady was like, "Oh yeah, that's why I was telling her like following me and all this." She was like I'm like like Yeah, that one the whole time she would have heard the argument. >> She should have. She definitely should have. As a matter of fact, yes, she I think she did. >> Yeah, it's all >> Yes, she did. That's why I say actually she did because I'm sitting right here and me talking to him and I'm like, "Yes, she definitely did hear the argument." >> How were the cars parked at that point >> when we got next to each other? Yeah, >> we hit the U-turn. First time we was really right here to right here, facing the same direction. >> Okay. >> And then when the U-turn hit, I was facing this way. You was facing that way. >> Was the U-turn at like a stop sign or a light or >> No, just a regular street. I just hit >> Okay. Did you >> I hit a junkyard U-turn going deep into this place and I'm like, "Okay." >> Okay. Like >> was it like a driveway or something or >> No, it wasn't drive. It was just a regular street. >> Just in like a two-way road. Two way come back around. >> Okay. What do you mean it comes back around? >> Like you see how this will be the driver and the street is not that big. So you know how you tweak the driver a little bit just to make a wider. >> Was it like a dead end or was it >> No, it wasn't a dead end though. >> So it wasn't like a culdeac? >> No, it wasn't a culdeac. >> Okay. Gotcha. Okay. Um, so when you got when you uh when you had words it was all on 911, were you were you on your phone when you got out of your car or were you on your phone the whole time inside your car? I was on my phone the whole time in general. >> Okay. What about when you got out of your car? Would that part be on the phone? >> When I got out of my car? >> No, I was just talking to him like this through the window. >> What happens if I tell you I know you got we know you got your car? Because >> listen, look at me. Certain things are leaving out just to see how honest you were being with us. You told you you came up here. You told him that you weren't out of the car. Look at me. I'm telling you that you were out of your car. So why you going to [ __ ] me? Hey, listen. Look at me. >> Take a second. Take a deep breath. Try and remember everything. Then there's a few things you left out. Listen, tell the whole thing. There's a certain reason why we know you got out of your car. >> That's why it took us a while to come back here. All right. >> Okay. >> So, when did you when did you get out of your car? Take it back. >> When I hit the U-turn, honestly, I didn't want to say it, but yes, I did. >> Why wouldn't you want to say it? >> I'm just nervous because I don't want to get in trouble. I'm going be honest with you. >> Why would you get in trouble? >> I don't know. like my job. Well, stuff to say. >> What's your last name? >> Woods. >> Mr. Woods. When you got your when you got out of your car, if I know you got your car, I might know a couple other things. >> Yep. >> So, when you got out of your car, what did you do, sir? And Mr. Woods, and what did you have? >> Mr. Woods. >> No, I'm trying to remember. Did I have before I even open my mouth? >> No, you're smart, man. >> Think about it. If I'm asking you a question when you got your car and I know you got your car, now if I ask you, Mr. Woods, what did you have in your hand? So, what is the reason why I'm asking you that information? That's why it took me and him so long to get here. All right. So, take a deep breath and tell me what's up, man. >> What's that? >> All right. No problem. Take a deep breath, man. >> Yes. >> Yes. What? >> If it was small, I had in my pocket. >> Okay. But I never sit there. >> Well, listen, don't go down that street. >> It was small. It wasn't necessarily in your pocket. >> That's how I know you had the gun in your hand outside your pocket. Okay. So, tell me why you had your gun out. Why'd you got the car with the gun out in your hand? >> Reason why I did that because like I said, the way he was and when I got on the phone and said he was following me. >> Yes, sir. >> In that moment, that's why I got the car dreams and they're like, I don't want to get hurt. And I'm like, if you going to hurt me, let me be prepared. Like say he was literally following me. And even if you guys listen to dispatch, the lady was like, "It's not illegal." And I'm sitting there freaking out like he's following me. Maybe he's going to get me first just for over a confrontation of the driving. And that's when I freaked out. And yes, that's what happened. >> That all happened in the codack, right? Like where you make that little U-turn. That little turn. >> That all happened right here. When when you all came in that culde-sac, who was the lead car? Who was in front? Is the really I'm asking you that. Be honest with him. >> He was he was the lead. >> He was the lead. So, let me ask you this, Mr. Woods. If you're in fear, right, he was a lead car. Why were you still following him at that time? >> No. See, now this is where I'm trying to make sure we get clear cuz even though he know his area, I don't know that area, man. When I saw it, I don't even remember a car to be honest. I just know we hit a U-turn and then I'm sitting there like, "Oh, this is how this going to go." After I took a picture of his license plate and literally got that on camera and was trying to tell the lady the license plate and screaming the license plate and I'm sitting there like as we got out of there, he started following me because that's when, like I say, I got out of there, he started following me as well. That's when I was like, "Okay." >> Let me ask you this, Mr. Woods. When you all when he was following you or you were following him, vice versa, that next stop, did you get out of your car again? >> No, I only got out of my car once. I can literally honestly say that. >> Okay, let me ask you this. Did you cut him off a second time at a stop sign? >> No. Now, at the stop sign to get >> to get away with me, he was in front of me. I remember that specifically as I'm on the phone. I'm >> I know. I know he was in front of you, but I'm asking you, did you go Yeah. Listen, feel me out. I know he was in front of you, but when you came to the stop sign, what did you do with your car? >> You went around him. >> Went around him and did what? Like, so this is his car. When you went around him, test of honesty here. Did you stop or did you go? >> I went. >> So, you didn't stop in front of his car first. What? >> Like, his car's right here at the stop sign. When you went around him, you didn't stop here and then go. >> Did you stop in front of him? >> No, I never stopped in front of him. He actually stopped in front of me. But he was already at the stop sign in front of you when you all >> he was already in front of because at that moment I feel like he was trying like I guess he was on the phone as well with you guys. I'm saying like oh he trying to block me in and that's when I actually went around him and made a left and when you got let me go back for something because we know about the whole getting out of the car and the gun all that stuff and you're probably reading between the tea leaves here. Why I know that >> right? So what what did you say to him specifically about maybe being a firefighter? >> I said yeah I work for the government bro. Like I'm a firefighter. Like you see this like that's what I am. Like you're driving records. I'm not just a guy that if you look off the looks tattered up pigs and then just you know what I'm saying? I'm not >> I know you said you're a firefighter. The rest of that you're saying wasn't I didn't hear that part. But you also said something else. >> What' you tell me you're a police officer for? Was that a slip or did you accidentally say that or >> that was a slip? >> Okay. I meant first responder firefighter. I didn't mean it. So you said I'm a firefighter and a police officer. >> You're a firefighter guy. That was >> But you know you shouldn't do that, right? >> Yes. I was talking too quickly. >> That was definitely my fault. >> Now, let me ask you this. Couple other things still hanging off of the end of the tree leaves there that you didn't tell us. Is there anything else you want to I want you to take a deep breath, close your eyes, think about what else you didn't tell me that you know that me, especially my partner right here cuz he was gone may know that you didn't tell us that we're going to have to add to the investigator report that we have to do because of this. >> I jumped out the car. Yes, I had my firearm. >> Did you point the gun at him? >> No. >> Where'd you have the gun at? >> I had the gun in my hand. >> And where was your hand at? My hand was literally right here. >> Like show me how you held the gun. >> I'm like my the gun was like right here. >> Show me what you were doing with your hand when you had the gun. >> Like what are you like you know you driving reckless like what are you doing like this? I never literally pointed a gun at me. >> Okay. >> I know you didn't. I wanted I know you didn't. I wanted to see how honest you going to be a thing. But you were talking with your hands with a gun in your hand, right? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. Is there anything else? Take a deep breath. Close your eyes. think back to this ugly incident here and tell us what you what else I might that you should tell me that I and my partner right here >> already know. >> That was basically it. I actually did get out of the car like I said got nervous following the whole situation and like they all started to me trying to be trying to dodge the accident and then me trying to report his car and then all they did was down here. That was totally and like I say, even when like I said, the thumbs up to coincidentally, it was nerve-wracking. I apologize if I didn't do what I was supposed to do. >> What were you supposed to do? >> What I should have did is just took a picture, a best picture of his car and just try to move away as much as possible, stay where I was, and just stay on the phone with you guys if anything instead of just trying to make sure, you know, trying to make sure they get them like no. That's That's sounds pretty responsible with that part of it. Let me ask you this. Anything that happened tonight, what do you regret about tonight? >> I regret even getting out the car. >> That's what I regret. Even though I'm trying to like that's not my job to be trying to talk to people like, "Bro, this this this." Like, "Bro, you're not at a fire station. He's not your friend. This is You don't know these people. You shouldn't have never got out and talked to me because that's not your job." >> Is that the only thing you regret? >> Even having my gun on me. Any any other regrets? >> Having my gun on me and and approaching him, getting out my car. That's that's really I regret not doing exactly just leaving it and stop trying to be uh extreme business or anything like that. >> Or call 911. I got the tag. This guy's driving recklessly. If you could change anything about tonight, what would you change? I if I change came by the night, like I said, I wouldn't have just I would have stopped where I was if I felt that. And even I would have stopped where I was. Even if it was in the main street, which would probably be better cuz there's a lot of people around. I probably would have stopped where I was and just stayed on the phone because at that moment thinking now, what could you do in main traffic to me that >> All right. If that guy was here right now, if we brought him here right now, what would you say to him? I would apologize, but at the end of the day now, as you're explaining to me, it's like, "Bro, I'm in I'm in my regular car. You wouldn't know who I am. I don't know who you are." And he doesn't know I don't know this area and I'm just following GPS. And when when the following and all that, if I was to put myself in his shoes now, I'd be like, "Okay, you got me twisted. Like, I don't know who you are." When he came for me to get out the car and approach him, he doesn't know nothing about me. He doesn't know who I am. what I do, how I do it. I just I'm just a random person that's doing too much. And I would literally apologize them because it's like, yo, it's not it's not fair to you as me looking at it and put my foot my foot in your shoes that what happened or what I did because it's it's not understandable. >> You got any other questions for him? >> The uh what did you do when you got back into your car and you said you left? What you would have done? >> I just threw it in the back. on my bag when we found it. >> Yeah. >> Stuck it there. >> Yeah. >> Where do you normally keep it? >> I usually keep it in the in the back where my my bag at that we sleep in the station. >> Yeah. >> It's a it's a cuffy holder back there that I usually sit it in. But that bag, you see how it was so close to the seat? >> I couldn't sit it in that closer, so I just threw it back there. >> Have you ever been a uh victim or involved in a road rage incident ever before in your life, or is this like the first time? >> This I've been in it once. >> When was that? And that was in um all the millennium. >> How long ago? >> How old are you now? 27. >> How long ago was that? >> That was probably like 3 months ago. 4 months ago. >> 3 or 4 months ago. What happened during that? >> When I told you guys, the guys from Pine Hills >> Mhm. >> reported on me. >> Was that during that road rage thing? >> Yes. He was trying to He almost hit my car as well and literally he did the Panera bed right there when you run into it. He went around and me just going into you he met up and he blocked me off with my fiance in the car and yeah I was like like what are you doing? He said you the [ __ ] that would let me over you driving reckless and that's when they pointed the gun and they saw it on the camera of the um Caner Bridge cuz we was right there right there next to Caner Bridge. Now, >> do you feel like you're a victim in that case? >> Yes. >> Were you scared? >> Uh, you know, I get Exactly. >> You feel it now, right? >> Feel like now I probably did to him. That's almost similar. It >> all comes together, right? >> Yes. That incident was the incident that I thought said I should have, but I didn't because I'm not used to even though I have them, I'm not used to using them. I'm not used to touching them. But at least that is good. >> I'm going to jail. >> Here. >> Oh, I'mma lose my job. >> Please. >> My brother, listen. My brother's a firefighter. >> Lose my job. >> Listen. >> My brother's a firefighter, so I respect firefighters. >> Please. >> Listen. Listen. You have to make better judgments. We cannot be. Police officers cannot act this way and firefighters cannot act this way. >> Please. I'm going to lose my job. I'm going to lose everything. >> You can't. >> I'm going to lose everything. I pray I seriously pray and hope that you don't lose everything. I mean that from the bottom of my heart, but we can't look the other way. Whether you're a firefighter, police officer, paramedic, or anybody like that. If if a deputy did this or police officer did this, I looked you man to man right and I they would be going to jail for what you did tonight, sir. >> Hey, can we please call turn up my car? Turn >> normally normally we tow the cars, but if you can if I can call somebody and come get your car, I will do that for you cuz we are allowed to do that. We tow it or get somebody to get your car and then that'll be my partner because he's charging. I got a national >> anyway. I could just talk to the guy. I was scared. >> He'll talk to you. You have something on the front. >> Oh my god. Please. >> You have anything in your box? Please hold it. Oh man. It's out. It's out of our hands. All right. Like, I can't believe this. I worked all these years, all this time to get my head. I mean, you shoot everything, do you? >> Okay. Does somebody have to bail me out or something? >> Eventually. Yeah. Okay. Let's see real quick. Where's your phone at? >> My phone's in my car. Okay. Do >> I really have to go to jail? >> Unfortunately, yes. Uh, can I grab your phone so we can make those phone calls? Okay. Give me one second. I'll be right back. >> Thanks. >> You're the man. >> You sure? Hey, read. Did he sign him for? >> No, he didn't. I just read it off of there. >> Yeah. Cool. Good job, guys. Oh, let me grab here. Take his deal real quick. Let me go grab his uh his gun. >> Whoever take pictures where it was, right? >> We didn't do anything yet. No, he just We took it out of the seat and >> he dropped it off. Um, >> yeah. You want us to submit it >> if you can since you found out where it was. Do you mind? >> That's fine. >> It's in my It's on my dash. >> He threw it on my dash while I was sitting in there. >> Okay. Um, I'll have him make that phone call real quick. >> Oh, that was good. >> Yeah, right. That was I'm not >> so much better than just I mean they call us they like when we try to get into remorse and getting that on camera and stuff. >> They keep going. Do I have to go? >> Yes. like like I'm going to lose everything. That's I mean there's a lot more to it than just that. So >> hello babe, I'm going to jail. >> Why? >> Cuz the guy I told you I was driving records that almost hit me and stuff. >> Uhhuh. >> Babe, I'm going to jail. Can you please come over here, get my car, and bail me out? >> Where are you at? >> I'm over here by 87. But where jail am I going to? Um, you'll be at the Orange County Jail. It's at uh JYPp and I4. >> Babe, it's JP and I4. Can you get the address down? >> Let me put the address. >> If you type Orange County Jail in Google, it'll bring you right there. There's only one. >> Orange County Jail. >> What happened? >> Babe, I'll talk to you about it later. Like, you're forgi. >> Orange County Jail? >> Yes. And can you come get my car? She has to get my car. >> Yeah, that's fine. The one is like Okay. >> Can you come to 87 right now and come get the car then? Like you can park your car at the station and drive mine >> and drive your car to the >> Yes. The police and um um my ID and everything is in there. So you can use my um you can use my debit card or whatever you need. You can bail me out. >> I'm on my way. >> Okay. Do you know where uh 87 is? >> Yes, I know where 87 is. >> Okay, perfect. I'm just making sure. Uh we'll have somebody hang out here with the car and the keys. So, and my wallet is in the car as well. >> Okay. I'm on my way. >> And after you get the car, can you please pick me up from the jail? >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you. >> You're welcome. I'm on my way. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Yeah. Do you need to call anybody else? >> Is there anybody else you want to tell notified? You got work tomorrow? Like, is there anything that you want to button up while we're doing this? And uh just real quick um that that bag in there with all your gear um you want me to have uh have it dropped off at 87 over there just so you can leave it all over there. They're they're over there talking you know now to see about everything. Okay. So for your gear. So >> no I guess I'll just leave my gear back in my >> Is it personal? >> I need to Yeah, they give all us individual deal. But do you guys think I need to call my fire chief? I would let I would I can't give you I can't tell you what to do. >> Yeah. I don't know what it's like on y'all's side. >> I But you know, if it was me, I would I would give my my supervisor a call. Just let them know. Give them a heads up so they're not surprised with it in the morning. >> That's what we do. >> That's again, that's Yeah, that's what we do. I don't know how you guys do it. Uh but it's up to you, man. >> Hello. >> Hello, Lieutenant Williams. >> Yeah. >> This is firefighter Woods. >> Hey, what's up, man? >> How you doing, man? incident happened where I'm by station 87 and um I'm going to jail and I just wanted to let the lieutenants know. Anybody know? >> You are going to jail? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Um hold on a second. Are are you not at work today, right? >> No, I just got off. I'm in front of station 87, basically. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Are you in front of where you are? In front of station 87? >> Yes. They're about to take me to Orange County Jail. >> All right. I'm coming in. Stay right there. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Interesting. Um, I was just called over. Give me one second. >> Don't you think this would be a felony? >> Uh, it is. I'm going to tell you right now. It's aggravated assault with a firearm. You think of anybody else that you need to call in the meantime? Let me know. >> Yes. And do you think I'll get my job back? >> It It all depends on what happens in court, bro. like there's nothing that says that the guy's going to cooperate or that the or that the the state's going to prosecute him or anything like that. It can go either way and it could all go away. You know what I mean? >> I can talk to these guys like I will unfortunately that'll be um that'll have to happen down the line like during the core process and it's way beyond that at this point. So um but it is a possibility that that it can get like taken care of in other ways. Give me just one second. Great situation. All control firearms. >> Okay. >> Um the girlfriend's going to get the car. >> Yes. >> Do you have any interest in any of the gear that's in the car? >> Yeah. Actually, I guess the car >> is the girl the girlfriend does he want that does she want? Does he want that? >> Where is he at? >> Does he want what >> the car to stay? Um, he said something to her about parking her car and and driving his home, but uh, but if that's better, I'm sure it doesn't really matter what car goes. >> Let's ask him if he's okay with the car. We can have somebody from the station drive the car. >> Yeah. To the station. >> Yeah. Make it easy. >> Okay. Hey, um, they're wondering if we can park the car over there or if if somebody from the station can can help drive it home or something like that. Whatever works. >> We can park at the station. >> Okay. Gotcha. What? Who is your direct supervisor? >> Who is my direct supervisor? 71 is Lieutenant. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Uh, you need anything while we're >> No. Put your car over there. >> Um, you tell my um that the car is over there. >> Yeah. She said she was going to 87 anyway. So, >> um, >> do you want us to leave it here and let her drive it over there or do you mind him driving it or >> Okay, if that's cool. >> Yeah, I drive it over. >> Okay. So, um, so, uh, they kind of give you a rundown why you're going. >> They told me it's a assault with a aggravated weapon. >> Okay. All right. I'm going to have to let um, battalian know. Okay. cards. Chief Phillips, nobody else. I was trying to call any chief. >> All right. Let me um I think it's Shannon Teamer tonight. So, I'll let her know. >> All right. >> Yes, sir. >> All right. So, you still got my cell phone number, obviously. All right. So, just let me know. Okay. Yes, sir. >> All right. >> Is there anything that he should do or like does he need to let anybody else know in the meantime? I'm just trying to get this sorted for you. So, you got kind of got an idea. >> Yeah. my wallet. She just need to get my wallet so she can at least get me out tonight. >> Okay. Um I'll take your ID with you so you have that with you, but we can leave the rest in the car and and the keys will be with him. So, >> um everything else will be there. Just make sure it's locked up for us, please. >> Yeah. Right there for me, too. Especially [Music] Um, [Music] >> did you think of anybody else that you wanted to call for now? >> Let me just call my fiancer one more time and I'll see. >> That's fine. You're in the car. I just have his ID. He wants to leave the wallet in the car. >> Take the conceal. >> Oh, I'm LT. I just called you on accident. My bad. >> Okay. Wrong one. >> I don't iPhone. >> This is crazy. >> Hello. >> Where you at, babe? >> I'm on my way to the station. >> Okay. Yes. My >> Yeah, my lieutenant um is taking the car to the station. So, you'll meet him at the station and get everything. >> Okay. What's your lieutenant name? >> Lieutenant Williams. Williams. >> But it doesn't You can just go to the station. Everybody can't believe it. But um >> Yes. So, yes. >> What's your badge number? >> 2718. >> 2718. >> We're going to leave his wallet in the car. Um so, you'll have that. >> Okay. >> We're taking his his ID and I think his concealment. So, that should be the only thing that's missing out of that. Um, >> but the lieutenant will have the keys and stuff cuz he's going to drive it over. >> Okay. >> I'll be there in like 15 minutes. >> Okay. Yeah. Take your time. It'll be over there. If we need anything, I'll give you a call. He'll have Well, I'll have the phone for a little while, but I'll probably end up turning it off to save battery at some point. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. And you got the address for the jail, right, babe? >> Yeah, it's Beyonce's already been notified. She's >> No, I just like the It's at the Orange Town, right? >> Yes, that's the right one. >> Okay, I'll get to the station. >> Okay, thank you. >> You're welcome. I'm on my way. >> Yes, the process. Um, so you will have a bond. So, pretty much all you have to do is go through the um like all the check-in procedures and stuff there and then they'll issue the bond right then and there normally. Um, if you pay the full bond and you can get out and do whatever. I don't know what it is off the top of my head. I'll have to look. I'll let you know. Um, if you go through a bail bondsman, you only have to pay 10% of it. So, if the bond's $2,500 and you go through a bondsman, you only have to pay $ 250 and then you'll be out. You'll definitely be out, you know, tonight, tomorrow, whatever the case is. Um, you don't have to like wait to see a judge or anything because it's not a domestic violence charge or anything like that. >> Do you want the car to be parked here by your boys or you want that? We're okay with that. >> I drive it over here. >> Um, but after that, you'll be out and then it's just like phone tag with with the state attorney and all of them. Um, I don't know exactly how their process goes or how long it'll take to to get it all worked out, but um, that's >> Hello. [Music] >> Oh, thanks. Someone steal my car. Huh? [Music] >> What? Radio. Yeah, >> personal radio. >> How do I shut it off? >> I just leave it. It's fine. >> Oh, what is that noise? It's just >> static. Um, uh, what was I saying? Dang. Um, >> yeah, and then court process after that, but that depends on on the attorneys and stuff. So, you'll be working with them after that, but you'll definitely be out tonight, tomorrow morning. I don't know exactly how long it'll take, but it shouldn't take that long. Give us a few. >> Yep. >> Okay. Good job. >> Take your time. >> Little does he know there was no video. >> Yeah, that was great. >> Actually, I didn't. Yeah, right. It's >> a treat. Yep. >> Thanks, guys. Yeah. Thanks. Oh, bomb call out [Music] in 18 drive black shirt and black pants maker carrying a backpack walking around the neighborhood multiple homes mall complain is a black man in a black dress to blackmail 1015. I guess firearm firearm. >> Yep, I got it. >> Thank you, sir. >> Yep. >> My ID. >> Uh, yep. I've got that, too. >> Um, you need to call anybody while we're while we're driving or anything like that? I'll keep it on until we get there just in case you think somebody just cuz I don't want to uh >> I know you get to make a phone call or something like that when you get there. But but if you've got stuff that you want to do, then I' I'd much rather let you handle all that now. Um just in case cuz I don't want them to be like, "No, you only get one." If that's the case. I don't know if they still do that anymore or not, but um I will try to answer whatever questions you have. I know you're going to have a bunch and you've you've been super cool with me and everything. So, we can shut it open. >> Yeah, I got you. >> Um, this is open, right? Yeah. >> If you get cold or hot or anything, let me know. Yes, sir. >> Hopefully, this gets dropped down cuz I can't take no felonies. Oh, for sure. I hope so, too. >> Everybody makes mistakes, bro. I made a big mistake trying to make sure I'm protected of a road. I got a gun flood on me and I was just trying to make sure I don't get shot. >> Yeah, I got you. [Music] >> Yeah. And I would make sure that you articulate that at some point, you know, like you may have been in the wrong for for being where you were, but like um and that may help you. So Oh, hold on. Getting a phone call again. Hey, I'm on. What's up? >> Hey, >> okay. >> Okay. Just cuz the statement in the Okay, sounds good. Yep. All right, fine. Um, yeah, and you know, it's not illegal to argue. Road rage isn't illegal. So, and maybe you can you can try using that previous experience to justify that, you know, like I was just being nervous shutting it up and make sure I don't get shot and then have my gun in my hand. I guess I shouldn't had it in my hand. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you definitely shouldn't have. That's for sure. >> I did, you know, never been in something like this. [Music] >> Yeah, it'll get you, man. I We all get a little heated. >> That little tenant I called, I didn't even know he was at this station. >> Yeah, that was >> It was perfect. >> I Yeah. Okay. I was going to I didn't know if that was perfect or if it was unfortunate. >> Perfect. It was definitely I don't know. I was like, Lieutenant, then when he say I'm coming out, I'm like Oh, that's what I said. I was like, "Oh, wait. What? >> You're coming out?" >> Yeah. >> You put that in. I'm like, "Oh, you were at this station." Like, >> "All right." He didn't even have to drive. He just walked. >> It threw me off, would you? >> Mhm. >> I was wondering the same thing. >> I didn't know. I was trying to know he was at this station. >> Yeah. It sounds like they might be able to get your car home, so that's always good. is not better. >> No, I mean you can always come get it after, but >> but if they got somebody to help drive it then save you a trip. >> Otherwise, she'd have to bring somebody, you know. [Music] >> You said you're from South Florida. >> Yes. >> Where at? Uh, Liberty City and Car City. >> Okay. When did you come up here? >> Uh, approximately two years ago now. >> Gotcha. Are you a firefighter down there, too? >> Yeah. I had graduated college already and then I got hired up here only. I was an EMT down there. >> Okay. >> American Indian. >> Gotcha. I finally got the opportunity and people barely get got it up here. That's why I'm like I'm trying not to, you know. >> Yeah. I don't know how it is on y'all's side, but we have people that do all kinds of stuff and get there and don't even get fired or whatever. So, >> trying to make sure [Music] gun >> Yeah. Don't lose hope. you know, all the hard work he finally put in not to be a failure, not to mess up. >> I don't know if the guy would record. He hoped he record. He was driving reckless. So reckless. >> I don't doubt it. We get a lot of those around here. And you know, >> yeah, scared me. I was like, before he follow >> like the GPS, what they're doing there. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. That's why that's the sucky part of not being from here. You don't really know which way to go too much. >> You said you live in Winter Park. >> Yes. >> Gotcha. >> And your normal stations off of Golden Rod. >> Yes. >> Which where at? >> Hoffner. Rod. >> Okay. >> Golden Rod and Hoffner. >> Is that like Golden Rod? An old golden rod right there. On old. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> I used to be over there. station >> and the guy wanted to press charges or something. >> He did wanted to press charges. [Music] [Music] You just got see if we can get around that. If you don't press charges, then there's no charges, right? >> Um, normally, no. I think the state can still like pursue it if they want to. Um, but to my understanding, I think they only normally do that for like really serious stuff, you know, cuz it's it's real hard to prosecute something if if the victim isn't willing to be there, you know? uh then you'd only get one side of a story and all that and I don't know if it's worth their time normally. So I mean it it's definitely a process and a lot of people just get tired of the process or waiting or whatever and dealing with it and >> got to get the process done cuz it's my livelihood >> for sure you know I'm able to keep myself. Yeah, >> within a year. That's great. >> Yeah. I don't know what kind of time limits they have or anything like that, but >> I don't know if I'm going to need a lawyer or what. >> Uh you will you'll have one for sure. Like >> private defender. Yeah, they'll provide one if you don't want your own, but I don't know exactly how that process works either. >> That's me turning. You guys passed me. I turned around. >> We passed you. >> Yeah, you passed me. I turned back around and remember I came in the parking lot to you guys. >> Uh, I got there late, so >> I don't know how that worked. I know they said that you weren't there when they pulled in. So, >> I'm probably going to call my fiance one more time and just tell her to meet me at the jail since my lieutenant got to the car. >> I mean, she's probably already there by now. She said she was only 15 minutes out or something. So, but we can definitely let you call one more time just to >> say whatever you need. I'm not worried about it. Like I said, I'd rather you be able to get all that done now. And I mean, as long as work knows and you know, they know you're going to be tied up a little bit and stuff like that, then we're good. >> You got school, too? >> Yes. I was supposed to take my Nashville tomorrow. >> Gotcha. Paramedic. I'm like, what? Still going to try to go to school, but >> when do you have school next? >> Uh 9:00 in the morning. >> Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. If you make it and if if you miss a day like what's the worst that'll happen? >> It's my national. >> Oh yeah. Oh that's right. That's >> the final. >> Of course. Of course. We can always ask what the process is when we get there. Um, so I know that like for law enforcement and stuff, if we let them know that we're law enforcement, they'll like kind of keep us separated from from most of the people in there just to avoid issues. Um, I don't know if it's the same for y'all. Um, I don't want to put your business out there, but if you want us to to bring it up, then we can. Okay. All right. Just wanted permission first before I went out and started telling them stuff, but I It may or may not be the same, but since you're out dealing with all these people and all that, uh, it's probably better to ask. >> There's different types of felonies. Uh there are there's like degrees. >> Uh I'll have to look at that too. Uh and it never really makes a difference on our end. >> So I don't pay attention to those. >> Um I don't know what it means for the day. >> Watch carefully as the interrogation technique shifts. The officers move from passive information gathering to active confrontation. They're employing the read technique, stating definitively, "I know you got out of your car to test whether the suspect will maintains denial." This is the critical moment where many suspects begin what researchers call incremental disclosure, admitting to lesser actions before acknowledging more serious ones. The suspect's body language changes noticeably. He looks away, shifts in his seat, classic indicators of deception that trained officers recognize. When the officer says, "Look at me. Why are you going to [ __ ] me?" He's applying calculated psychological pressure. The Miranda warning is now re transforming this from a field interview to a custodial interrogation. Under Miranda viz Arizona, this protects the suspect's fifth amendment rights while ensuring any subsequent statements are admissible in court. The breakthrough occurs when the suspect finally admits he did exit his vehicle. But notice how he still minimizes, "I only got out once." The officers press further knowing from the victim's statement that there's more. They ask about the stop sign incident specifically, and the suspect begins to crack. He admits to having a firearm, but attempts to frame it defensively. Under Tennessee's self-defense statute, title 39, section 11 to 611, a person may use force when and to the degree they reasonably believe is immediately necessary to protect against unlawful force. However, pursuing someone blocking their path and displaying a weapon rarely meets this standard. The suspect's justification that the other driver was driving reckless doesn't constitute an imminent threat of bodily harm required for armed self-defense. A critical revelation emerges. The suspect falsely identified himself as both a firefighter and a police officer during the confrontation. He had ad myth saying, "I work for the government. I'm a firefighter, but then also claimed to be police under Tennessee code section 3916301. Criminal impersonation of law enforcement is a class B misdemeanor. For someone in firefighter training, this abuse of authority is particularly damaging. Fire departments maintain strict moral character requirements and a felony arrest, even without conviction, often results in immediate termination from training programs. The suspect is literally one day away from his national certification exam, and this incident will likely end his firefighting career before it begins." The officers explained the tactical and legal failures of the suspect's actions. Pursuing an unknown subject into a residential area violates basic safety principles taught to all first responders. He abandoned the protection of his vehicle, approached on foot with a weapon, and created a dangerous situation that could have resulted in tragedy. Professional emergency responders are trained extensively in deescalation, the opposite of what occurred here. The proper response to aggressive driving is to maintain distance, know the license plate if possible, and contact law enforcement if you feel threatened. Instead, the suspect's actions transformed him from potential victim to aggressor under Tennessee law. His admission that he cut off the victim at a stop sign while armed constitutes aggressive driving elevated to criminal assault. As the reality of felony charges sets in, we observe the suspect's emotional state deteriorating. He mentions his fiance, his upcoming exam, his career aspirations, all now in jeopardy. The officers maintain professionalism while explaining the booking process. This is a textbook example of how interrogation should be conducted. firm but fair gathering evidence while respecting constitutional rights. The suspect's admissions are particularly damaging because they came after proper Miranda warnings, making them fully admissible in court. Tennessee courts have consistently held that postmiranda statements are given significant weight, especially when they contradict earlier denials. The conversation shifts to practical matters. The suspect asks about bon court dates and the possibility of getting out before his exam. The officers explain they don't control these decisions, but given the felony charge, he'll need to appear before a magistrate. In Tennessee, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon typically carry substantial bond requirements, often $1000 to $5000, depending on criminal history and the community ties. The suspect's lack of prior record and stable employment as a firefighter trainee work in his favor, but the weapons enhancement and false imprisonation complicate matters. The officers note that pressing charges isn't entirely up to the victim. The state can proceed regardless, especially in weapons cases. Further details emerge as the suspect provides more complete disclosure. He describes the initial traffic interaction, claiming the G37 driver was hauling ass and driving recklessly. However, his response following the driver getting out with a weapon and confronting them far exceeded any reasonable response to poor driving. The officer's probe about exact words, exchange positions of vehicles, and specific actions taken. Each detail adds to the prosecution's case. Under Tennessee case law, particularly state versus sims, the prosecution must prove the defendant intentionally or knowingly caused another to reasonably fear imminent bodily injury. The suspect's own words provide this proof. The suspect attempts to minimize his actions by claiming he never pointed the gun directly at the victim, but under Tennessee law, brandishing doesn't require pointing. Simply displaying a firearm in a threatening manner during a confrontation satisfies the statutory requirement for aggravated assault. The officers explain this legal nuance while continuing to document his statements. They're building what prosecutors call a consciousness of guilt case. The suspect's evolving story from complete denial to partial admission to full confession demonstrates he knew his actions were wrong. His repeated attempts to justify the confrontation as concerned over reckless driving ring hollow when weighed against his decision to arm himself and pursue. The extended conversation reveals more about the suspect's state of mind and background. His young working toward a respectable career engaged to be married, not a typical profile of someone who would commit assault with a deadly weapon. This illustrates how road rage can affect anyone regardless of background or character. The officers note he seems genuinely remorseful, which will factor into plea negotiations. In Davidson County, first- time offenders with clean records often receive offers for judicial diversion, a program allowing charges to be dismissed after successful completion of probation. However, the firearm involvement and false impersonation could make prosecutors less willing to offer such favorable terms. As transport preparation begins, the officers allow the suspect to contact his fiance. These moments humanize both the suspect and officers, showing the real impact of criminal charges on families. The suspect expresses concern about his job, his test, his future, all legitimate worries now that he faces a felony charge. Tennessee employment law generally allows termination for felony arrests even without conviction, especially in positions of public trust like firefighting. The officers show empathy while maintaining appropriate boundaries, explaining they can't make promises about his case outcome, but noting his cooperation will be documented in the report. The final portion of the interaction involves discussions about the legal process ahead. The suspect will be photographed, fingerprinted, and held pending a bond hearing. His case will be assigned to the Davidson County Criminal Court where he'll face arraignment within 48 to 72 hours. The typical trajectory for such cases involves months of legal proceedings, discovery motions, plea negotiations. Based on similar cases, we've researched the most likely outcome is a negotiated plea to a lesser charge, possibly reckless endangerment with probation, community service, and weapons restrictions, the prosecution's strong evidence, the suspect's own admissions, and the victim's testimony make trial risky. As the video concludes, several lessons emerge from this incident. First, road rage with a weapon transforms a traffic dispute into a potential felony with lifealtering consequences. Second, lying to police during an investigation only worsens the situation. The suspect's initial denials undermine any credibility he might have had. Third, claiming to be law enforcement when you're not as additional criminal charges and shows concerning judgment. For anyone watching, if you're involved in a traffic dispute, the only winning move is to disengage. No amount of anger or frustration justifies pursuing another driver or displaying a weapon. Based on our analysis, we assign the following grades. The suspect received a D for multiple serious errors, including road rage, renishing a weapon, false impersonation, and initial dishonesty with investigators. His eventual cooperation prevents a failing grade. The Nashville Metro Police earn a B for conducting a professional interrogation properly, merandizing the suspect and maintaining composure throughout. Minor deductions for some procedural delays. The complainant, though not seen in this footage, receives a B+ for avoiding escalation and immediately reporting the incident to law enforcement. This case serves as a powerful reminder that one moment of anger during a traffic incident can destroy years of career preparation and alter the entire trajectory of your life. Thank you for watching this analysis of law enforcement interactions through legal and tactical perspective. The final portion of the interaction involves discussions about the legal process ahead. The suspect will be photographed, fingerprinted, and held pending a bond hearing. He's case will be assigned to the Davidson County Criminal Court where he'll face arraignment within 48 to 72 hours. Based on our research of similar cases in Davidson County, here's the likely trajectory. The suspect faces initial charges of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a class C felony carrying 3 to 15 years. However, first- time offenders rarely receive maximum sentences. The prosecution has strong evidence, the suspect's postmar admissions, the victim's testimony and his false claim of being police, but they also have a defendant with no criminal history, stable employment, and genuine remorse. The most probable outcome is a plea agreement. The suspect will likely be offered a deal to plead to reckless endangerment, a class A misdemeanor, or possibly receive judicial diversion on a felony charge. Terms would typically include 11 months 29 days suspended sentence, two years probation, 100 hours community service, anger management classes, $1500 to $2,500 in fines and court cost prohibition on a firearm possession for 3 to 5 years, and no contact with a victim. If he successfully completes probation, the charge could be expuned, though his firefighting career is likely over regardless. The false impersonation charge might be dropped as part of the plea deal. Without this incident, he had a promising future. With it, even a favorable plea deal means starting over professionally.