On November 2nd, 2023, in Cumberland, Wisconsin, officers executed a search warrant at an apartment complex after receiving a cyber tip from Snapchat regarding illegal and disturbing material being uploaded and shared on their platform. >> The door on the left. >> Yep, number one. Yep. >> Yep, number one. >> [applause] >> Mr. Herman. >> Yeah. >> We have a search warrant. >> For what? I don't know. >> Come in. >> Okay. >> Hold on. We're going to put your hands behind your back. You'll be >> Yeah, we're just going to detain you and then I'll explain what's going on, okay? >> Okay. >> Is it just you here? >> Yeah. You have any weight problems? No, I don't. Well, I'm not the type to be able to sit in the back of the >> Can you just relax this hand here? >> I'll be pretty loose for you. I have a cat that's right here. He just popped a seat on your little thing here. Not that. We're going to have you sit right here. >> Do you have any weapons in the side here? >> Oh. >> 10-4. You got any weapons in here we need to know about? >> I have two guns that are loaded or anything. They're on the side of the [clears throat] other side of the apartment. >> Okay. >> Like that. >> No. >> You're not putting it There. >> 22 and 1/2. >> So, before we do anything, I'm going to read you a form. You want to stand up real quick? I'm going to check this couch quick and then we'll take your handcuffs off and then I'll >> I do have some drugs. >> That's okay. Where are they? >> They're right on the inside breaker. >> Okay. That's okay. Will you just stand up? >> Yeah. >> You want to come over here quick? >> Yep. >> And he's going to take those off and you can just put them in front, actually. Do this first, I guess. You don't have fentanyl, do [clears throat] you? >> No. >> Okay. No knives or anything stuck in the couch where you're going to sit? >> No. Oh, wait. In that brown thing, there is a like a a weed bowl and stuff. Just so that you know. >> In that same cabinet? >> That cabinet. Underneath the comic books, there's like a a bong and a bowl. >> Okay. >> That's all. >> You want to sit down there? >> Wait, what are you guys all like looking for? Just uh >> Electronics. >> Okay. Oops. I mean, I don't do child porn. I usually just throw everything in. >> Okay. >> You know, I hide them. >> Okay. I'm going to read this to you, all right? You have the right to remain silent. Anything you can Anything you say can and will be used against you in court or other proceedings. You have the right to consult an attorney before making any statement or answering any question and to have an attorney present with you during questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed at public expense to represent you before or during any questioning if you so wish. If you decide to answer questions now with or without an attorney, you have the right to stop the questioning and remain silent at any time you wish and the right to ask for an attorney to have an attorney [snorts] present any time you wish, including during this questioning. Do you >> I'm I I don't have any questions. I will cooperate or whatever it is. >> Okay. So, realizing you have these rights, are you willing to answer questions or make a statement? Besides marijuana, do you use anything else? Okay. What's your current phone number? >> I don't have one. >> No phone? Where do you currently work? >> Nazis. With somebody I I work at 11:00 at school. >> You work at 11:00? Okay. So, you're not married? >> No. >> Are you divorced? Never married? >> No, never married. >> Do you have a girlfriend? >> I don't know, yeah. >> Hey Mindy. This is the phone that he can start with. So, that phone just has Wi-Fi. You have Wi-Fi here, I assume? >> Yeah. I don't have service or anything. >> Yeah, so you can't make calls or whatever unless you're on Wi-Fi. Okay. What's your position at Nazi's? What do you do there? >> I'm a cook. >> How long have you worked there? >> Going on 6 years, 5 years. >> And you have Wi-Fi here, you said? >> Yes. >> When you use your phone, what um apps do you use to talk to people? >> Um Oh, I uh >> Like Snapchat? Do you use I got Tinder. >> Tinder. >> uh Kik app or whatever. Kik and I think that's it. >> You don't have Snapchat at all anymore? What's your username on Kik? >> I didn't want to tell you my username. >> What's your password for this? We have a search warrant for the phone as well. >> Okay. 6969. >> What is it? >> 6969. >> Okay. Okay. You don't know your username on Kik? >> No. I think I thought it was just my name. >> What hours do you usually work? >> Everyday. >> What hours? >> Uh some nights, some days. I mean, it's like whenever they need somebody, basically. >> What time are you usually online talking to people? Like on Kik and stuff and Tinder? >> At night. At night. >> At night. So, regarding electronics here, you have your cell phone? Do you have any laptop? No laptop? No computer? >> No, it's all on my my phone. >> Okay, what about USBs? Like memory? >> Oh, I'm not technology savvy at all. >> No hard drives to old computers? >> No, I don't know. I don't know. >> So, your phone is the only electronic you have? Okay. >> And like yeah, like video game stuff, but >> What [snorts] do you have for gaming consoles? >> [clears throat] >> A old PS? >> No. Two? I have like $30,000 of video games in the back room. It's like a whole collection. >> What about gaming systems? >> I have all of them. >> Do you have any like new Xboxes and stuff? >> Yeah, but I I don't go play on them or even log on them or anything like that. >> Okay. >> Anything I would talk to or anything is all on that. >> Okay. So, who all uses your your cell phone? >> Me. >> Just you? >> Yeah. >> Your girlfriend ever uses it? >> Nope. >> Do you bring your phone to um work and stuff? >> When you go? >> So, the only app that you chat with people on is Kik and Tinder? >> I can't think [clears throat] of my phone talking. I don't think there's anything else on Kik. >> Some other ones like Grinder? What? Meet me? >> No. No, that's it. Otherwise, all the other apps on my phone are like um game called [ __ ] apps like YouTube like uh like the like how much stuff is weird stuff like my YouTube and stuff. >> Yeah. And what's your email address? >> Wisconsin chef at Gmail. >> w i s chef? >> Wisconsin chef. >> The whole thing? >> Yeah, no, no, just Gmail. I s chef though. >> At Gmail? >> Yep. >> Are you the only one that knows the password to your phone? >> Mhm. >> Do you remember when your Snapchat account stopped working? >> I don't I don't know. It was like a month ago or whatever. >> And did you get like a notification of why it didn't work anymore? >> I don't know. It sounds like my email stuff. I don't know what I mean, like >> So, when we go through the phone, will we find um adult on the phone? >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. Do you pay for any pornographic websites? >> No. Just what like people send me and whatever, you know. >> So, is it what people send you or is it like pictures you save when you go on >> Yeah, like I mean, there's some pictures like saved or pictures that people send, yeah. >> Okay. >> And whatever. >> Do you have any uh kid clothing in here at all? I know you don't have any kids living here, but will we find children's clothing? >> No, you'll find like the sex toys and the sex outfits and stuff. >> Okay. But no kids clothing? >> No, not like little kids, no. >> Do you have any images of child anywhere in this house or on your phone? >> There's one video on my phone that someone sent me. >> A video? >> Yeah. >> How old of a kid? >> I don't know. Like 12 and 13. >> Okay. Who sent you that? >> I don't know. It's a person on Kik. >> On Kik? Just one? >> Just one. >> Did you ask for that image or that video? >> Uh No, like I didn't say hey it's suddenly important. He talking and that sent to me. >> Okay. You don't remember who sent that though? >> No, cuz all the the the things are actually in the history too. This weird app. >> So when you met this person on Kik, did you meet them in just one of the rooms? >> Yeah, it was just like uh probably you know kinky sex or something like that. >> Not something specifically related Oh, okay. And when he sent you that, what did did you save it? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Just on your normal like camera roll? >> Yeah. >> Did he only send you the one? >> Yeah. >> Did you send it to anyone after that? >> I don't remember. I don't think so. >> Okay. So besides that one video we'll find, is there anything else on your phone related to children? >> [clears throat] >> Other than maybe some texts and like talking, you know, just all it's always just been talking, no videos and stuff like that. >> With people that are claiming to be younger or that you know are younger? >> No, all adults. I've never talked >> Oh, they're all adults. >> Yeah, I've never talked to any like kids or anything like that, no. Everyone's been all adults, dads or moms or whatever. >> So would you say that you're sexually attracted to younger people? >> No, I I like the when I get high on I I like to talk. That's it. I've never you can ask I mean you talking about kids never even been thought or anything like that. I just yeah, late at night bored and high. >> Mhm. Well, I mean if you saved the video of a 12 or 13-year-old, obviously you had it gave you some sort of pleasure, right? >> I think it was I think it was more of of a increase I had a if I was talking to other people and they eventually you know wanted to see something, you know, kind of thing like that. But >> Okay. So, you've never had any sec contact or sec conversation with anyone under the age of 18 that you know of? >> 100% positive. >> Okay. So, you were talking to a girl on Snapchat with the username Mike and you had told her that you sent her a image of a young boy that you sucked off is what you said. Do you remember this? >> Yeah, but it it it wasn't a young it wasn't a young boy. It was just [clears throat] a like a 20 25-year-old >> Okay. >> dude or whatever and he just >> Why'd you tell her it was >> We were talking back and forth like kinky like uh >> Oh, okay. >> I was like so I I I a lot of ti- you know, fine. Like I would say, "Oh, this is my son." And it's just like just tweak a guy I know. You know what I mean? >> Just kind of like fantasy talk. >> Yeah, fantasy. Yeah. >> Okay. When you search on websites, what kind of stuff do you type in? Like kinky sex or what do you type in? >> compilations of stuff >> Like a mixture of stuff. Do you ever type anything into like like um preteen >> No, not preteen. Like I mean some incest maybe some something like that, but nothing >> Nothing with juveniles? >> No. Like a I mean the other thing would be like mom and daughter or dad and son, but that's all that's all like Pornhub like stuff that is legal to watch. Like it's not really like any like I guess you have to use we encrypted a accounts or something weird [ __ ] >> So, when we look through like your Kik messages and stuff are they going are are we going to see you asking for images or videos of children? >> I don't think so, but >> Hold on one second, Randy. >> When [clears throat] you When you When you talking dirty, I don't I don't recall seeing stuff like that, but I don't want to, you know, lie to you guys and give you 100%, but I don't recall. >> Okay. Have you ever had a problem with like a uh sex addiction or anything like that? Like do you think that you have any sort of problem that you need help for? Or do you think it's all kind of drug-related? >> I think it's all drug-related. I think that's a big I think that's a big thing with my message right now. I don't know. I've I've been I've I've been functioning okay for a long time, and it just seems like it's all the past year it has been like this. And nothing is making Do you have any Just seems like it's the funnest. >> Mhm. >> Good morning. >> Like maybe you couldn't were able to control it better before and >> control it. It's like I mean I just like I like talking dirty to you know, like uh I never go through or anything cuz I I have good sex with them. Like so that's the only way. I mean I just I'm going to get high and I'm bored, and you know, until late hours [snorts] and >> [snorts] >> My video game is in there, huh? >> Yeah. >> 2200. >> How long do you think you've had your Kik account? >> 4 days. >> That one? What happened to the other one? >> Well, I think it's the same phone number. I don't remember. completely off of my phone. Like I I had it like maybe I don't know. 6 7 months ago and then I um deleted deleted the account and then I added it back a couple days again. >> So it's but it's the same username and stuff >> I think so. >> that you had? Why'd you delete it? >> Just cuz I needed more storage for like when I for my collection stuff. >> Oh, okay. >> It's like a comic like a comic book app or Google app or game app. It keeps all my collections and what they're worth. >> How many years you've been using meth? >> Since sixth grade. >> Since sixth grade? >> Off and on, yeah. I go like six months of not doing it. And I'll do it for a month and then I won't do it. I don't get withdrawals or anything. >> How much do you think you use every day? >> No. >> Lately? >> No. I like it like if I have it I'll smoke a pipe for two a day and then I just go do my stuff. >> Who do you get it from? >> I'm not allowed to say that. >> When was the last time you bought it? >> I don't a month ago. >> Okay. Okay, so there's actually been two cyber tips on you in the last year. So do you know what a cyber tip is? >> I'm guessing it's a tip on the cyber. >> It's It's like everything you do on the internet goes through a >> cloud or whatever you want to call >> Well, it goes through different calculations. So known like child images have a have a certain hash value and the program can tag if this is a known child image, okay? So that's how it gets reported to Snapchat, oh this child image was just shared and then Snapchat lets um the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children know, and then they let law enforcement know. So, um, the first time there was a conversation between you and a man where you were talking about how you had or had thoughts of sexually having contact with a minor. Does Do you recall this? >> No. >> Okay. >> I mean, like I said, it's all talk. It's all talk. It's just like kinky thing and all, you know, up head. I guess you can call it catfish. I I just lie about Whatever they want to hear is what I tell them. I don't want to hear it though. >> Mhm. >> So. >> And then the, uh, the newest, uh, the newest cyber tip was an image, like I said. And that one looks like this. It's of a little girl. >> Yeah, that's the video I have. >> That's the video? Okay. So, it came as an image. So, but didn't you say you got that one on Kick? >> Yeah. >> Well, this was on Snapchat. So, I don't know if you just like, um, saved it on to your Snapchat? Is that a thing you can do? From like your camera roll, can you save it on your Snapchat? Like in the no >> Yeah, you can do that. >> Like in the no eyes or whatever you Okay. So, you, uh, >> That's the only video I That's the only thing I have of of anything child that I've ever done or like sent or >> Have you ever sent that one to someone? >> I must have. >> On Snapchat? >> I don't recall on Snapchat. >> Okay. >> Like I said, like if they're asking for and we're just talking dirty and stuff and stuff and stuff. And stuff, but that's the That's the only thing I I got some from that Kick thing. >> Mhm. And you don't remember if you asked for that or if you just sent it. >> asking for it. >> Okay. It But when you sent it to someone else, did they ask for it? >> Well, obviously. >> Okay. Or Or maybe you just sent it like what happened to you when you got it on Kik. >> Well, no, I mean I didn't do it. I would I would say I'm not going to be like this it's a touchy subject. >> Mhm. >> So, like uh they obviously asked. >> Or maybe Yeah, maybe you guys were doing the fantasy talking and then >> that and then it got to too much for them or something. I I you know. >> Yeah. Is there anything else you think we should know before we go through your electronics? >> The fantasy talking. No. >> Have you ever had any contact with someone who you know is under 18? >> Never in my life. >> So, like DVD wise and stuff, do you have um adult or child porn on DVDs, all those stuff back there? >> I didn't have a >> DVD player? Oh, you can play DVDs on like a PS2, right? >> Yeah, but you know, I don't I have I don't know, maybe I have DVD. >> Do you have any um sort of criminal history? >> Um I haven't been in trouble with the law for like 15 years. >> Have you ever been convicted of a felony? >> No. >> No. Did you ever get in trouble in Colorado when you lived here? >> I lived here when I was like in second grade. >> Okay. So, you've only lived in Wisconsin and Colorado? >> Yeah. >> And you've never been in trouble in Wisconsin, really? >> Um I mean, I had some like a possession of marijuana ticket and stuff back in my high school days and stuff like that. >> Okay. >> Otherwise, the only I think the only thing I have on my record is maybe a the thing about, you know, child support >> Mhm. >> when I took I pretty much my custody and when I went to his I don't pay child support, so >> How long have you had the guns? >> Um >> those ones. Like have you had those for several years? >> Yeah, over 10 at least. >> Oh, okay. >> That shotgun is like my grandpa gave me or whatever. >> And then there's Is there a handgun, too? >> No, it's a .22 um >> Oh, there's just two. >> Just what I have used to do and stuff like that. >> Um do you smoke Do you smoke it or do you shoot >> Just smoke it. >> You want to shoot it or you just going >> No, I'm not going to shoot. >> But this is a good time to I want to put like a band-aid on my finger. Shout out to my G friend. >> Oh, no, that's her. She must have got her fingers on it. No, no, I'm not a shooter at all. I hate needles. >> Do you only have the one pipe? >> Nope. >> And then obviously the bong thing, but >> Nope. I should have one one marijuana bowl, one pipe uh one bong, and one pipe. >> Following the execution of the search warrant and his subsequent arrest, Noah was officially charged with two felony counts of possession of one felony count of possession of methamphetamine, and two misdemeanor counts of possession of drug paraphernalia. He later pleaded guilty to the first charge, and the judge found him guilty, while the remaining four charges were dismissed but read into the record for sentencing. Noah was sentenced to 5 years in state prison, followed by 5 years of extended supervision. As conditions of his release, he must register as a for 15 years, have no contact with anyone under the age of 18, unless approved by his supervising agent, and cannot use electronic devices or access the internet without permission.