Did you like him? And that's okay. >> I did. >> My son's attracted to boys and I'm okay with that. And one of my daughters is attracted to to women. >> I don't know what you're talking about. This is crazy, bro. >> It started as a normal conversation online. There was [snorts] nothing unusual, nothing threatening. For 6 months, Telon Man believed he was talking to someone real and someone he trusted enough to meet alone. But when he arrived that night, something felt off because the person he'd been speaking to wasn't there and instead someone else was waiting for him to show up. And minutes later, Telon would be multiple times all over a rumor that spiraled out of control. June 23rd, 2022. It was around 2:00 a.m. when officers in Daytona Beach responded to reports of gunfire near Oak Tree Circle close to Forest Glen Boulevard. By the time they arrived, they found Telon Man lying on the sidewalk and he had been shot multiple times. Despite efforts to save him, Telon was pronounced dead at 2:09 a.m. at the scene. From that moment, the investigation moved quickly. Officers secured the area while detectives began going through nearby homes searching for anything that could explain what had just happened. They collected surveillance footage from surrounding streets piecing together movements in the minutes leading up to the shooting and things started to fall into place immediately. Cameras captured a figure approaching the area shortly before the gunfire then running away moments after. But the most important piece of evidence came from Telon's phone after it was searched through. Inside, investigators found over 170 Instagram messages between him and someone he had been speaking to for months. However, the problem was that the account wasn't real. It had been carefully created to lure him to that exact location. By tracing the account and aligning it with the surveillance timeline, detectives identified the suspect, 19-year-old Jacari Webb. He was located, taken into custody, and brought in for questioning. But it wasn't Jacari's first visit because he was already on felony probation for the possession of a firearm. >> You don't have nothing on you as you can slide down for me. All right. You don't have nothing that's going to poke me, stick me, stab me, nothing like that, right? >> No. >> Okay. Pull your pants up for me quick. You got anything in your pocket? >> Only trash. >> Spread your feet for me. Slide down again for me. >> [bell] >> All right. Go ahead and have a seat right here. And there you go. My partner will be in in a minute to talk to you. >> All right. >> All right. Do you know what it's about? He'll let you know. He got you. He good people. >> But before that night, who really was Telan Man? And how did a life that seemed so normal end in something so tragic? Even at his young age as a 19-year-old, Telan was openly gay and fully himself, which was something his friends and family admired about him. He was known for being kind, approachable, and someone who made connections easily. According to his sister, Tikija Man, he had always been that way. She described him as someone who was always helpful, always kind, and always made friends easily. Even as a child, she said he was just a ball of joy with the most contagious laugh. That's how people remembered him, warm, genuine, and full of life. There were no signs of conflict, no known enemies, nothing that would explain why someone would target him. But for nearly 6 months, Telan had been speaking to someone online, someone he believed was a basketball player. The conversations were consistent, detailed, and personal. Messages were exchanged and trust was built. Eventually, that connection led to one decision, to meet in person. But what Telan didn't know was that the person behind those messages wasn't who they claimed to be. The account was fake and the person behind it had been planning this moment all along. When Jakari Webb was brought in for questioning, he didn't immediately admit to anything. >> How are you? >> I'm all right. >> Sorry for the inconvenience, all right? Trying to figure some [ __ ] out, you know what I mean? My name is Joey Rosas, all right? I'm a detective with Daytona. I'm going to give you my card, all right? So you don't forget my name. >> I'm going to try to do what I did. >> No. That's why we were trying to figure some stuff out. Here's my Just call me Joey, okay? And um I know that one of the main things you you first was worried about is is we learned that you're on probation. I ain't worried about Listen to me, I ain't worried about your your your probation, okay? I'm not here to VOP VOP you. All right. So, but going through the stipulations of your of your probation, you're supposed to cooperate with law enforcement. And there's some stuff that I want to go over with you, okay? Other than that, don't worry about the VOP I'm not here to VOP you. >> All So I mean we go home? >> We're going to work through that, all right? Cuz right now you being they they charged you with resisting arrest. >> No, they didn't say they wanted to do that. >> Because right? That's what we're figuring out now cuz I guess you ran. >> Yeah. >> Okay, all right. We're going to figure that out, all right? Um let me get some basic information from you. What's your first name? >> Jakari, j a k a r >> j >> a k a r i >> He kept mumbling that he didn't do anything and didn't know why he was there for questioning in the first place. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Man, how the hell did you get up in here? >> Man, I was at I was on guard. I literally finna go home. I didn't know what was going on, so I seen the truck come. >> All right. >> Scared the [ __ ] out of me. I didn't know what to do, so I ran. >> Well, listen. I'm I'm going to talk to you about this this resisting arrest the running, you know what I mean? Cuz that's the main thing and other than that well the VOP I'm not to concerned about. >> We cool? >> Yes, sir. >> All right. >> All right. >> But obviously since you're in custody I got to read you your rights, you understand that? >> Yeah. >> You have the right to remain silent, anything you say may be used as evidence against you. You have the right to talk to an attorney and have him or her with you now or at any time during questioning. And if any point you wish to stop talking and have an attorney present all questioning will be stopped at your request. It's on you. You understand your rights? Okay. That in mind, you willing to talk to me about this all right? About running? All right. Why did you So talk to me Talk to me, is that a yes? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Do you Did you When you saw the police what did you think immediately? >> All right, what the Cuz I just seen this big ass truck come. And then he had He just had the stick out already. We all literally We all was scared for we never been through nothing like that. So but I just ran cuz I was like what the [ __ ] I was just scared. Like I ain't never been in a situation like that. You know what I mean? In trouble or nothing. It ain't no more probation. I was scared so I just ran around the house. I just locked literally walked out of the house actually. And then that's when y'all then that's when they came then I ran around the house then they was on the back street so they said stop and get on the ground. So I stopped and got on the ground. Dude came and jumped on me. >> Mhm. >> So I don't know how I got out of that. >> Okay. All right. So So that's why you ran? >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. >> I was just scared. >> You were just scared? >> Hell yeah. >> Okay. >> And when he finally did speak he tried to control the narrative. At first Jakari told detectives that he had spent the night at his friend RJ's house on Garden Street claiming he stayed there playing basketball and watching TV until late. >> Do you get Do you have any nicknames? >> Yeah, Jakari. >> Jakari? Jakari? I want to talk to you about um Thursday. Wednesday night, last Wednesday night. I want to talk to you about that night, right? What Do you remember what you were doing that night? >> I was with my brother. >> Who's your brother? >> RJ. >> Oh, you were with RJ? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And I stayed the night over there. >> Okay, on Wednesday night? All right. Did y'all go to the club or anything? Did y'all do anything? >> Mhm. >> All right. Thursday was or Wednesday was the 22nd. >> All right. I don't know. >> Okay. She My wife is calling. She won't stop, man. She won't stop. Okay, so you stayed the night over at Garden. Okay. All right. And what did y'all do that night? >> [ __ ] played a game, watched TV. >> Watched TV? >> Yeah, yeah. Chilling. >> Okay. >> I was playing basketball over there, [ __ ] like that. >> Yeah. >> We chilling out. He was like, "My people are my people." >> Yeah, yeah. RJ's mom is super nice. >> Yeah, yeah. >> You know. >> Cuz my people. >> She's She's super sweet. What um uh So, throughout the night you guys just played basketball? And what else did you do? >> [ __ ] I went to bed. And then we stayed up till like late. We stayed up till like 1:00 or 2:00. And then I went to sleep. Cuz I had to work in the morning. I had to get up at 7:00. And then I went to sleep. Yeah, went to sleep. And I got up at 7:00. >> you had to work Rooms To Go on at 7:00 a.m.? >> Yeah. >> Okay, on Thursday, right? >> night I did. >> What do you normally do? Like, where do y'all check in at? Like, do you go to the Rooms To Go location? >> No, it's like it's the old movie theater. That's where the trailer and the truck be at. So, we got to go out there. And then we go to work. >> Okay. Okay, got you. All right. So, so Wednesday night you're with RJ. You're over at Garden Street where we where where I met you at today, right? And what And you you What time did you guys go to bed? >> Like 1:00 or 2:00. >> Did you go anywhere from there? >> No. I went home in the morning. And then I went to work. >> All right. And what time did you get to Garden Street? >> [ __ ] I was over there all day. >> All day? >> Yeah. >> Do you Do you know the time frame? Like sun Was the sun out? >> Yeah. >> And then >> Yeah, yeah, sun out and then till like today. I was there all day. >> All right. So, you stayed there all day and then after that you ended up um >> Staying the night over there. >> Okay, staying the night. What do you normally stay at when you're there? >> In my room. >> Okay, and what And whose room? >> In the den. >> Oh, in the den in the back there? >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Do you remember [clears throat] what you all what you ate that day? Wednesday night for dinner? >> I probably didn't eat I don't eat like that. I didn't eat a lot to >> No? >> I didn't eat like that. >> You and RJ didn't grab anything? >> No. >> All right. Who else was at the house? >> Uh Grandma. That was really it. Oh, yeah. Everybody that stayed I'm tripping. Everybody that stayed in there Grandma was there. >> Okay. All right. And did you And so, you stayed there the whole day, you didn't go anywhere. You all just kind of played games and stuff like that. >> Yeah, we were just chilling. >> All right. >> Staying all day. >> Okay. All right. When you're there, since you don't have a license, how do you travel around? >> Walk. >> You walk everywhere? >> I ride a bike, yeah. >> Whose bike do you ride? >> Shayla's. Shayla's bike. It's just a friend of the family. >> Who? >> Shayla. Her name is Shayla. >> Okay. What bike What What does that bike look like? >> It's a beach cruiser. It's light gray with black handlebars. >> Okay. Anything Does it have anything else cool to it? Where's that bike located at? >> In the den. >> Is that Is that on Garden? >> Yeah. >> At the house? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Does it have um I saw a few bikes up there. I I don't know. Yeah. Is it the one with the basket? It has a thing on the back? It has a basket in the front? >> I don't remember. >> You don't remember? Just Just a beach cruiser. >> Yeah. >> The The dark colored beach cruiser. >> Yeah, the No, the gray one. >> The gray one? >> Yeah. >> All right. When was the When was the last time you used that beach cruiser? >> Today. >> Uh where'd you go to? >> To the store. >> Which store? >> Down the street, the red one. Down the street. >> What? >> The corner store down the street. >> The red one? >> Yeah, the red store. >> Where's that at? >> It's down the street from Carl. Right by the car wash. >> Oh, okay, got you. Got you. Okay. And what which which uh bike did you use? >> According to him, he hadn't been anywhere near the area where the thing took place. But investigators already knew that wasn't true. Surveillance footage placed him outside moving through the area, sneaking around the house around 12:50 a.m. heading toward Oak Tree Circle. When confronted with this, his story began to shift. >> Did you use any Did you travel by any bicycle on on Wednesday? >> No. >> No? Okay. All right. So, you're crying I'm going to be straight up with you. All right? I'm not here to violate you. All right? But I But I also I'm always willing to give people breaks. Last thing I want to do is see you jammed up with your probation officer because Listen to me. And I mean this, okay? You're 19. All right? I'm not trying to see you go and you know, deal with [ __ ] through your through your probation officer because you ran away. You feel me? >> Yes. >> I'm not that person. But you have to work with me and understand the moment you're not honest with me is the moment my relationship with you goes downhill. Okay? I respect you. I respect you and I tell you the truth, okay? Whether it's Whether it's going to hurt your feelings or not, I'll tell you the truth. Is that fair? >> Yeah. >> Okay? But I expect the same the same from you. Okay? >> All right. >> Deal? >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Okay. And I mean that. I'll help you as much as I can. >> All right. Thank you. >> All right? But, you cannot do me You cannot lie to me. >> I will not lie to you. >> Okay? All right? So, >> What? You said I did something? >> What's up? >> You said I did something? What happened? >> Well, I know you're a good I know you're a good kid. I know this, okay? But, there's been a string of of car breaks and burglaries and everything else, and and let me tell you what I have. I need to ask this question from you. >> What? >> Were you trying to break into that house? >> Hell no. >> What were you doing? >> Hell no. That's where my mom stay. I was going around the RV. She stay in the RV. I was going around it. I wasn't trying to break in there. >> Okay, because see, we get ring So, we get ring camera footage, and when something suspicious happens, we know who we Obviously, we know this is you. It's clear as day, right? So, I'm asking you that were you trying to break into this house? >> Hell no. I promise to God I'm not. Come on. My mom stay in that trailer. I ain't trying to break in there. I was running around it. Hell no. I wasn't trying to break in no house. >> You promise? >> I promise to God. >> You didn't try to break in this house? >> Hell no. I promise. Hell no. That's my momma trailer right there. She stay in that trailer. >> All right. >> I swear to God. >> Well, I didn't make contact with somebody in the trailer. So, I You like I said, I hadn't made contact with any of those people. >> Hell no. I ain't never try to break in no one. I would never do them like that. That's my people. That's my family. I trust them. I love them. I promise to God. No. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I never lie. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I know. Only [ __ ] doing I can't do no dumb [ __ ] like that. That's just childish. That's why I work. I don't I don't steal from nobody. Just get my own money. >> Okay. What were you doing out there? What I mean, did What were you doing out there? Running around? >> No, I wasn't running around. I don't know. I probably I was just probably passing by. I don't know. >> Do you remember You don't remember the time You know the time on that, right? That's early. >> I don't know the time. >> But I'm saying that's damn near 2:00 in the morning. >> I don't know what I was doing. I wasn't breaking in [ __ ] though. I was probably walking somewhere. >> All right. What's your mom's phone? What's your mom's name? >> Tiana Griffin. >> Well Well, we have to ask that question because it's it you you got We're we're getting footage of of you running up behind a uh house and RV. >> Right. That's where my mama stays. I don't break into nobody like that. >> Okay. What What were you doing before that? >> We were playing basketball. That's all That's all we were doing. We were playing basketball. That's all I remember what I was doing in there. I don't know what we were doing in there. We were running We were doing something. I don't know why we were running from now. I probably getting a basketball or something. Yeah. I know I wasn't breaking in nobody's house, though. I know I wouldn't do nothing. I promise you. I wouldn't break into people's houses. You know what I mean? >> I know. I know. I have kids already. I have five kids. >> All right. >> Okay. You were young. >> I ain't done nothing, I promise you. >> Listen to me. You have your whole life ahead of you. Do you understand that? >> Yeah. >> Sometimes we make mistakes. Sometimes we do we do things that we regret. Okay? Sometimes that happens. Cuz we're human. You're young. We make mistakes. You feel me? >> Yeah. >> Jacar, what were you doing before that? What did you do before that? >> I wasn't doing nothing. I told you we were chilling. I wasn't doing nothing. >> Where? >> In Garland. That's all in the same area. That's right by Garland. >> That is? >> Yes. Garland. >> That's what I told you. That's what I told you. Be honest with me. >> I am. I have no reason to lie. >> That's at 752 South Carolina, right next to Belview. It's pretty far. >> side. >> It's on the South side. >> By South City, where my auntie stay? >> Not South City. Not by Garland. >> But then my auntie stay on South over there. >> Okay. >> And I was at her house. >> Okay. >> Too. >> Okay. >> I have no reason lie. I promise you. I promise you I don't have no reason to lie about that. >> Chikara, you don't have a reason to lie. >> I don't. >> Then tell me this. Why did you just tell me Why did you just tell me that that that that house and that RV is your family's when I know it's not? >> I thought that was my auntie Shana, gang. >> Then why would you run up there? Why would you hide behind there? Why would you run up there? >> Hm? I didn't hide nowhere. I was coming from Soul City. >> Soul City is the other way. >> No, I was I don't know why I was over there, to be real. Wait. What are you talking about, Bellevue? >> Yeah. >> No, I don't know why I was over there. I don't even remember, gang. >> I think you do. >> I don't. >> Hey. >> I'm not lying. >> I know. Listen to me. I can't help you. I can't help you if you're not straight up with me. >> I'm not. >> Chikara. Chikara. Listen to me. >> Yeah, I'm not lying. >> No, Chikara. I can't help you if you if if you don't tell me the truth. >> I'm not lying about nothing, but okay. >> But okay about >> I'm not lying about nothing. I don't even remember, gang. You know what I mean? >> What did you do? What did you do prior to this? Pri- prior to that video, what did you do? >> I didn't do nothing. >> What were you doing? >> I don't even remember. I probably come coming from that gas station getting something to drink. >> What gas station? >> station, Sunoco. >> You were at the You were at the Sunoco? >> Yes. >> Okay. What were you doing there? >> Getting something to drink. It was hot. >> Okay. >> See I got my shirt off? >> I do see that. I do see that you have your shirt off. >> Yeah. >> What else? >> But that was here, I promise to God then I went back to the other side of town by where I stayed. >> How did you get to the other side of town? >> I walked. How else am I going to get there? I promise, bro. Got no reason to lie. Nothing. >> Hey. Jacari. Hey. I just want to be straight up with you. I know what you did. >> Who? I didn't do nothing. >> I know. I know everything. >> I didn't do nothing. >> Jacari. Hey. Jacari. >> Yes. >> I know everything. >> I didn't do nothing. >> It tears me apart. Watching young young young men and women destroy their life over bad decisions, over bad choices. >> Bro, I didn't do >> No, Jacari. I know >> I know exactly what you mean. Bro, what I did? Cuz I didn't do nothing, bro. I promise I didn't. I swear to God, I'm really here for no reason, bro. >> Jacari. >> Talking to you like a man. I told you I didn't do nothing, bro. >> What did you do before this? Before before that video what did you do? Where were you running from? >> Bro, I was at the store. >> I saw where you were running from. >> I didn't >> Jacari, look. Jacari? >> I didn't do nothing. I'm telling you straight up, bro. I ain't doing nothing. You tripping, >> Jacari, how did you get over there? >> What? >> From where? >> Bro, I was in the south side. I was in in South City. Bro, that [ __ ] is >> leaving me out here crazy, bro. I can't I can't even just talk to you. >> Hey. >> Hey. Jacari, because I know >> I ain't even I ain't even talking about, you know, >> I know it all. I know it all. >> I didn't do >> I know that you rode your bike. I know you rode a bike over. Jacari, >> Mhm, I didn't go. >> I know. Look at me. I know you rode the beach cruiser from Garland at 12:50 a.m. >> I told you this before. >> No, no, no. And then I Guess what? >> What? >> And then I see you again. I see you travel all throughout the city. Hold on. >> throughout the city. I'm listening. I'm listening. >> Please don't do this to yourself. I'm begging you. Don't do this. I'm here for a reason, and I can help you. But if you if you're not truthful with me, I can't help you. I see I saw you I saw you on Campbell, Campbell Middle School. I saw you. I saw you I saw you at Forest Glen. I saw it all. >> Forest Glen? >> Yeah. >> I don't know what I did. I don't know. Come on. >> You don't? >> I ran the bike through there. >> Hey. >> It's nothing. >> Hey. This is your opportunity to tell me >> Bro, I didn't do nothing. >> I didn't do nothing. >> Your story. >> I rode the bike through there to go to the to the store, bro. >> But I see you. We have cameras everywhere. >> All right. >> Jacari, I see where you where you dumped the bike. I know who you were talking to. I know everything. Oh, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that to me. I told you I would respect you and help you as much as possible. Okay? But the moment you you start lying to me, I cannot convince anyone that it was an accident. I can't convince anyone that it was an accident. Right now right now, it's going based on you being dishonest. I've got video. I've got it all. The whole thing was captured on video. Every bit of this. What? Jacari. >> I'm here for running, bro. I don't know what you're talking about. This is crazy, bro. I'm not supposed to be doing nothing. >> Jacari, I saw who you met up with that night. >> I didn't meet nobody. >> Look at me. I saw it. We saw it. >> I didn't meet nobody, bro. I'm not talking. That's crazy you trying to sit here and say this, bro. >> We saw it. I just want to know why. >> I didn't do nothing, bro. >> Jacari. >> Come on, bro. That's crazy, bro. You trying to sit here and >> Sit here and what? That I'm trying to reach out to you. Listen to me. I'm trying to reach out to you. I'm trying to reach out to you and help you as much as possible, but but you can't do this to me. You can't do this to me. You can't sit here and and and lie and lie and lie and expect me to help you. I can't help you that way. I know what you did and I saw it. I have it everywhere. I can tell you everything you've done. Everything you've done that night, I can tell you what you've done. But the But here's here's here's what I need to know. Why? I just want to know why. Was it a Was it an argument? Was it a mistake? What was it? What was it? >> I don't know sometimes, my brother. That's what I'm saying. That makes no sense. >> I can't help you if you don't tell me your side of the story. I can't help you. >> no story. I don't know what you're talking >> Jakari, I have you on video. Okay? I There's video. I can tell you everything that you did. I can tell you your Insta your your I I have search warrants on Instagram. I have Instagram I have your Instagram accounts. >> I don't have >> I know Listen, the ones that you delete, I have it all. >> He struggled to explain why he was seen traveling between locations, at times on foot, at times on a bike. His timeline didn't match the footage, and the gaps in his story became harder to ignore. Then detectives introduced the digital evidence. They showed him the Instagram messages between him and Tellen Mann. Messages sent from a fake account, and told him that they knew about this already. So there was no use hiding anything. At that point, Jakari admitted to running the account, but insisted it didn't mean anything. He denied any real intent behind it, even as the messages suggested otherwise. And then came his explanation for the shooting, which was more like an excuse. Jakari claimed it was self-defense, and that Tellen had approached him with a knife, forcing him to react. Jakari, Jakari, look at me. Respect me enough to look at me like I do you. Please. Hey. Just tell me why. Why? Why? Why? Did he attack you? Did he attack you? What is your story? I know it's scary right now, but don't be scared. I'm here with you. I need to know your side. I'm here to help you. I need to know your side. Did he attack you? He's a violent person. Did he attack you? Stop. I know you're scared, but don't be. I'm here to help you, but I I have I know everything. I just want to know why. What happened? We're past that. We're past that. Jakari. Jakari, we're past that. What happened? They attacked you? >> They attacked me, like you said. >> He attacked you? >> It was an accident. >> Okay. It was an accident? Okay. Okay. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. That's okay. Hey. That's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Hey. I promise you. It's okay. Tell me your Tell me your story. I know he's violent. I'm I'm aware of this. I just don't know why. What the He stabbed you? How? He had a knife? So, you're protecting yourself? >> Yes. >> Okay. Why did y'all meet up? >> Cuz he wanted to see me. >> He wanted to see you? Okay. All right. Did you have a relationship with him? >> No, not like that. >> What type of relationship was it? >> He was like a friend. We went >> Was he trying to get too close to you or something? >> Yeah, and I ain't with that. >> And then what was the conversation when you met him, when you saw him that night? >> He said what up and [ __ ] like that and then >> He said what? I can't >> I was like what up and then he was like what up and [ __ ] like that and then he tried to stab me. >> And then he tried to stab you? And then what did you do then? >> But there was a plain problem. No knife was ever found at the scene and forensic evidence showed that multiple shots had been fired from a distance contradicting even the idea of any kind of close-range struggle. >> All right, I had to talk to my wife, tell her I got a lot of paperwork to do. I told you I'm not going to lie with you. All right, and I'm going to document the fact that he attacked you. Okay? But I need to know where's the gun at. >> I don't know where I threw it. >> Hey, I need to know so at least we have that so it it shows that you're being 100% honest with me. >> Yeah, I got to go find it. >> Where'd you throw it? >> There. >> I know you went up the trail and went up the path >> Yeah. >> to Shady? >> Yeah. I threw it by the garden. >> By garden? >> No, no, I didn't throw it by the garden. I threw it No, I didn't throw it there. No, I didn't throw it by the garden, no. I can I can find it, though. I can go find it. But Shady didn't even find it. >> Where at, though? Cuz this is going to show good faith that you were protecting yourself because we know of his violent history. You know what I mean? We're We're very much aware of this. So, where exactly did you go? >> I don't know my house. Um where did I go? >> Try to think, man. I'm trying I'm telling you it's going to benefit you. >> I don't know where I leave your gun. Um where is it? >> We got a gun at Garden at Garden Street underneath the basketball hoop. >> Yeah, that's it. >> Is that the gun? Okay. All right. That's the one you used? Okay. No problem. All right. All right. Do you want something to drink? You hungry or anything? How you feeling right now? How you feeling? >> [ __ ] I don't know how to feel. >> You scared? A little bit? >> I mean, I was defending myself. I shouldn't really be scared. I don't know. >> It's still >> I ain't never been in this situation. >> didn't you Why didn't you just come to the to to us and say, "Hey, this is what happened"? >> I don't know. I think like >> As detectives laid out each inconsistency, his confidence faded. His answers became shorter and less certain. The story that he started with no longer held together. And piece by piece, the version of events he tried to control began to fall apart. As investigators continued to piece everything together, the only possible motive began to emerge. According to Jakari Webb, the situation wasn't random. He told detectives that he believed Helen Mann had been spreading a rumor about him that he was gay. And for him, that rumor mattered. It became something he fixated on and something that he wanted to control. >> All right. All right. When you When When he tried to stab you What happened to the knife? Did you Did you take it? You took the knife? Okay. So, let me tell you what I learned. All right. So. Why did you create a Instagram account U2X? >> It's just an account that I had on the side. >> Okay. Okay. So, I have all your messages between you two. >> Why would you bring a gun to meet him? >> To warn him he's crazy and he was past and he was crazy again. >> But this is head But this is someone you've never met. >> He didn't meet me as well. >> He's never met you. >> My age told us somebody else and then she knew and tried to kill me. That's what it was. >> Who did he Who did you pretend to be? >> Somebody named Mario. Something like that. And he seen me and tried to kill me. That was it. >> You mean Trey? >> Trey whatever. >> Mhm. >> I don't know what his name is. >> So you're on felony probation and you're carrying a gun to meet another person. >> So I was careful. But that's the only time though. I don't I don't always do that. >> But why did you always want to come hang out with him? You were talking to him in a very And by the way, I'm not I'm not judging you by any means. This is preference. What? Do you like him? >> No. >> And that's okay. >> No, I don't. >> That's okay. >> Mhm. >> Hey. We're out here now. We're out here. >> Just so you know, you know, you know, >> Can you just say my >> My My My son My son >> Oh, I'm not gay. >> My son's attracted to boys and I'm okay with that. It is what it is. >> All right. You know? And And one of my daughters is attracted to to to women. >> I'm attracted to boys, though. >> So, why would you talk to him like this? This is very uh very sexual in nature at some point. >> Cuz there's somebody I knew, and then when I seen him, he seen me, and he tried to cuz I wasn't who I was. He tried to kill me in the back. He was trying to kill I don't know. >> The video didn't show him. The video of you shooting him, I have it. And the video of of him with a knife, that's not there. I see it. >> I knew he was trying to >> When you were hiding up you you bent down at the hill, when you when you when you kneel down in the hill where where that hill is, and he comes around, we saw that. >> Right. >> Okay. He didn't have the knife. We see it. 100%. >> I know he had something in his hand, though. I'm not tripping. >> Okay. But, you just you just told me that you took the knife, which I know is is a lie. >> Lie? It wasn't a knife. >> It wasn't a knife. >> He had something in his hand, though. I swear to you. >> I just want to know why. Why? We're here. It's you and me. We're out here. Everything is in the open now. Everything is on the table. Where did you and I being honest? You and I talking. >> I felt like he didn't care about my life. >> He didn't You felt like he didn't care about your life? >> Yes. Cuz >> And by the way, did you did you secretly like him? >> No. >> And that's okay. >> That's what I'm saying. I didn't at all. He didn't want to give me a chance. He's trying me before. >> But he didn't know who you were. He thought you were a guy named Trey Rodriguez. >> Cuz I didn't want to make it seem like it was me. That's all that was. >> But why? Why would you do that? >> Cuz if it were me or me, he really would have Cuz you know I wouldn't want that. >> But But why would you meet him? >> Him? >> Why would you meet up with him? >> I don't >> You had every opportunity not to. And you >> I don't know what I was thinking. I don't know. Like I wasn't thinking. >> Okay. All right. So I mean, he didn't even How I mean, what do you think the distance was between you and him before you you shot him? >> I don't remember. >> Not within 10 ft? >> I don't remember. I don't know what I was doing. How much I was doing that? It's crazy. >> All right. >> Tried to hurt him before, though. >> You what? >> Tried to hurt him before. >> But he's never met >> you. >> Yeah, he has met me. >> How? >> He knows me from Instagram. He gave me his number. Like 2 years ago. >> Okay. Okay. Did you guys have a a friendship then? >> No, we had no friendship. He thought I would own that and I wasn't and he didn't try to understand that. >> From 2 years ago? >> Right. Till now. >> So, why would you Why would you do what you did to him 2 years later? >> That was from 2 years ago till now. Right. >> Because you created this account in February. >> Yeah. I didn't know that I created that account. >> But you talked to him as as another person since February. For the past 5 months. >> I didn't know I I wouldn't I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that I had that account for that long. >> But you were talking to him. >> Yeah, I know >> But but like I guess I guess what I'm asking, man. I guess what I'm asking is what were you trying to get out of it? Like what You you created an account that you you reached out to him first. And we see the conversations and we see everything. Why would you do that? >> Because I'm not I'm not like I don't know I don't know nobody I think I'm going to die. >> Nobody's going to think anything. This is just you and me talking at this point. >> I know. >> Hey, and if you're curious, it's okay. We're all human. >> I don't know actually. >> Hey, it's okay. I mean that. My son loves who he loves and my my daughter loves who she loves. By the way, sometimes we have things in that goes on in ourselves that we want to experiment, we want experience. I'm okay with that. I I can tell I can tell you this. From my experience with my own kids and my own experience with this like it with this job, I can tell you that I think you did I think you did want more than a relationship with him. I think you did. And I think that you weren't too sure because your you weren't too sure because of your friends and other people you hang out with would not approve of this. That's what I think. And I think that your emotions your emotions got to the night that morning of and you didn't know how to react. >> But instead of confronting it directly, Jacari chose a different approach. He created a fake identity, spoke to Taylon for months, and chose to build trust. Pause. Only to use it. Investigators also noted the nature of those messages. >> [music] >> They were consistent, personal, and at times filled with emotions, raising questions about whether there was more behind his actions than just [music] anger, whether it was fear, insecurity, or something he didn't want to admit. That tension appeared to build over time until it finally turned into violence. >> And these things ain't All right, you got to Do you have anything in your mouth? >> All right. Something in my That looks like Did you swallow the inside of your cheek, buddy? >> Which side was that? >> That was his left side. >> All right. >> So, write on that. >> Yeah, you want to write on that. Yeah. Make sure you know which one's which. All right, take some pictures. >> All right, stand up. >> All right, face him. Can you stick your hands out like this? Spread them out like this. There you go. Put them the opposite direction. All right, you can put them back down. Turn around for me. You mind if you straighten your feet out? >> Following the interrogation and review of all digital and surveillance [music] evidence, Jakari Webb was formally charged with first-degree murder. The prosecution built its case around the fake Instagram account, the 170 plus messages exchanged with Tellen Mann, and surveillance footage that placed Jakari at and around the scene in the moments before and after the And after trial proceedings, Jakari was found guilty of first-degree murder. He was sentenced to life [music] in prison. But, what do you think? Was this case really about a rumor or about something deeper he was trying to hide from himself? Let me know in the comments.