this peak can turn around. They can catch up with him. I lost him when I cut it off. It was a Nissan Ultima dark brown Sierra Charlie alpha 0442. Last contact was north on Hawthorne. >> Tell you, even if you think put yourself in my shoes and all that, I'm not trying to be rude. >> So where So you guys So if that's if that's the case, if that's the case, right? If if what you're telling me is the truth, then we can go off of that. Okay. We can work with with Dawn. We can work with this. Hey, I don't know. >> Okay, ma'am. I will be taking out warrants on you tomorrow and I will be canceling your insurance. I hope that you have a wonderful day, too. Okay. Did you hear all of that so you know what to expect tomorrow? >> Byebye. >> That's fine. I'll cancel your [ __ ] insurance. I don't give a [ __ ] >> That was a long recording. So, I'm going to tell you the circumstance of what's going on. I would It would be very beneficial for you to cooperate the most you can. Um, I don't say the most you're willing to, but the most like that you actually can. so that way you're not in any legal trouble. Um, so during that time frame that this Dawn individual had your vehicle, he ran from the police. >> No. >> Um, and so your vehicle is under investigation. We have >> Yes, ma'am. Um, he ran from the police. He put a lot of people at risk cuz he almost hit a bunch of cars. Um GSP, Athens police, we were all chasing this. We were all chasing your vehicle. >> Are you serious? He wasn't even gone for this call. >> Yes, ma'am. So, right right now, right now, your vehicle is involved in a felony investigation. So, >> my god, it's crazy. >> To prevent you from being in trouble, I need Don's actual name so we can talk to him. I you know what I can't even I can't even give you his real name. I really >> because here's the thing. >> I really can't I just know his name is all. >> So I'm just going to break it down as to like how we're looking at it and maybe you can understand. You told me that is your that it is your car. Um that you you drive it. You're now you're stating that a a man that you don't know any information on had your car in the time frame that we were looking for that car, but we have no name to associate it with. So, right now, you're the one looking at those charges because we have no proof to say that it wasn't you driving. >> Oh, yes ma'am. I'm not looking at no charges at all. I have look I I understand what you saying like what it what it um sound like or whatever you just said but I'm not no charges like it's not a crime to get nobody my car to go to the store but >> but Miss Smith the issue is is that we we don't have a a name to be calling to confirm that he had your car. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like if you said this his name is so and so this is his phone number. This is where to find him. We could go say, "Hey, did you have her car?" or anybody. >> I really can't give you that because I don't really like know him like that, but I know he's just like he's just somebody that just come around all the time. And I was just like, "Yeah, you know, I'm a friend. So, yeah, just take my car. It's not like it's not like I'm driving." So this is this is the >> this is why it's not recommended to give strangers things that belong to you or you know allow individuals you don't know >> I never like I don't even think I really been around even like I don't even think that somebody like whatever you think they did like >> well I'm it's not that we think we know for a fact we chased that car with that license plate. We have everything on camera like it happened >> that there's no thinking like this is what happened >> and it and it was your car that was used. You have no alibi supporting it that it wasn't you other than you were standing in front of a random house on Talis. >> Yeah. >> There there's no like that's not a good alibi. And I'm not saying this to be disrespectful. I'm tell I'm just telling you the blunt truth of >> what you're telling me does not help you. I need information that's going to help you because what's going to happen is we're going to take these charges out. We're gonna file the police report. It's going to go to your insurance. >> I don't want to say anything else. I have told you the truth. So, whatever else you need to do, please do it. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I never like this. I'm trying to tell you exactly what I know and that's the only thing I can do is be truthful. So, I mean, >> Mrs. Smith. Hey, Mrs. Smith. This is Officer Cornell. Can Can you hear me, ma'am? >> I plead the field. >> So, you're not you're not under arrest. You're not under arrest. So, you're not >> because I just told you guys exactly. I can't tell you nothing different. It's not going to change. I just told you what I know. I'm calling you guys back. I'm thinking that that one of my family memb are you really willing to go through all of that just because you don't want to help me? >> The only thing I can say I'm telling you what the name is. So the only thing >> Okay. So how about can you tell me who he associates with? Can you tell me? >> So, you're willing to go through all of this just because you're not >> Listen, >> that's a lot to go through. That's a lot to go through just to to protect somebody. >> Listen, I can only be truthful to you and that's what I'm doing. >> But you're you're not being truthful because I would love to >> But I can't tell you anything else. Mrs. Smith, Mrs. Smith, I plead the you can't plead the fifth because you're not under arrest. Nothing else I can say. >> You can't plead the fifth cuz you're not under arrest. Mr. >> You guys have a good day. Okay. Cuz I mean, I'm I'm trying to >> So, you're willing to get charges and get your insurance canled because you're you don't want to help us? >> Now, listen. Listen. I'm helping you, but you're telling me that I'm lying. >> You're because listen, just listen from our standpoint. >> It's not because >> So, I understand that you're you're worked up and you're yelling and you feel like interrupting me and all of this, but I need I need you to hear me out, okay? and I'm trying to go to sleep and telling me and I'm giving y and you trying to tell me that. >> So, can you can you listen to me speak without interrupting me for about 2 minutes? Can I just speak without you interrupting me for about 2 minutes, please? So, I want you to just put yourself in my shoes. Okay. >> I look I'm >> you told me that you would listen to me without interrupting me. You told me that you would listen to me without interrupting me. You gave me your word, so I I would like for you to stick to your word and just listen to me talk without interrupting me. You gave me that word. So, can you do that? Can you listen to me without interrupting me for for two minutes is all I need. Just two minutes of your time. >> I'm irritated and I don't feel >> And you might be irritated, ma'am. But I'm also irritated because >> I'm irritated because y'all told me that somebody did something like my car and I'm telling y'all the truth. >> Okay. So, and if if that's the truth, if that's the truth, Mrs. Smith, I need you to listen to me for 2 minutes. Okay? I'm just asking for 2 minutes of your time without you screaming and hollering. >> And I don't want to hear my next I can >> walk this way. Okay. Um I'm officer Nelson with the county police department. Um right now you are in handcuffs. Okay. So I know the Monroe PD has read you your Miranda rights, correct? Okay. Do you understand all your Miranda rights? Okay. Would you like to talk to me real quick? >> I want to go home. I can't go home though. So, well, let me let me I'm willing to have a conversation with you if you want to talk. Um, couple things right now. You're facing charges of felony fleeing and attempting to elude. Okay. Along with running a stop sign, running two red lights, reckless driving, uh, fail to maintain just a slew of traffic charges. Okay. Um, your vehicle, the one that you told me and this other officer that you that's your your vehicle, right? Um that vehicle is what ran from us. Okay. Um so I am seeing connections and the name that you gave me on the phone, Dawn. You kept saying Don Don Don, you know, Don did this. I find it very peculiar that you were in Athens on Taly Road, but you don't know where you were at. You don't know Dawn well enough is what you told. I >> don't think nobody never asked me where I was. >> I asked you where you were at and I asked you if you would give me >> Oh, yeah. You did ask me where I was. Yeah. Yeah, >> like people do hang out like on the black road. >> Well, that's not Talis. That's what I thought. >> That's what I I mean that's what I think too. I mean I'm from over so I don't really like be knowing all these roads and that but I just know it's a black road. A lot of people hang out, you know, just be hanging out. >> Okay. >> So people do hang out. I mean y'all from Athen so y'all know that people just stand outside, you know. I would just I'm just stopping by. >> Well and and I'm not saying that that's not the truth, right? I'm not saying that you don't just stop by. I'm sure people do just stop by. The Hawthorne Extension is a pretty popular place for people to go. Um, but what I don't believe is that you let a stranger drive your car. I don't believe that a stranger walked up to you said, "Hey, let me run to the store." And you let a random stranger that you only know by three letters take your car, which I'm assuming is how you get to work, how you get to the grocery store, how you drive around to and from Athens, Oathor, Monroe, wherever you go. And I don't believe that you just let a stranger drive your car. I don't think anybody in their right mind, which you seem to be. >> I do. Yes. Yes. Like not no stranger that don't think never asked me because just because I know somebody don't mean I would know their last name. Cuz I'm pretty sure you hang out with somebody and maybe they friend may have a friend or whatever and he be like, "Oh, well yeah, you straight." "Yeah, he's straight. He just going to go to school and come back." Like that's possible. >> Okay. So maybe not last, but I asked you if you could tell me your first name. If you could tell me where he stays at, where he's at? >> Because I wouldn't know that if if I wouldn't know that. Like how would I know that if you know if I'm over a friend house and my friend be like, "Yeah, he's straight. He's straight. He can drive your car and go to the store and come back." I'm like, "Oh yeah, he's straight." Well, yeah. >> You couldn't tell me where he what he looked like. >> You never asked what he looked like. >> I can replay my body. >> I don't think you never said I probably talking over you then. I probably talking over you. I was very frustrated because I wasn't aware of what was going on. Like my mom called me and said something. And I'm like, somebody ran, you know, I'm I'm somewhere else. I I got on body camera. Even when I go to court, they going to see me. Whatever time whatever time that whatever happened, I'm somewhere else. Like I know for I'm somewhere else. I'm not in the car. I'm at a store and it's on camera. So I know for a fact I wasn't there. It wasn't me. >> So what store were you at? >> The store in Monroe. >> The store you were in Monroe? Yep. >> At 9:00. Yep. >> So who drove their car to your house? >> I was at 9:00. He drove back. >> He drove back to your house. >> I told you. Yeah, he drove back. >> That's not what you told me at first. >> No, I didn't tell you that. >> Yeah, you didn't tell me that. >> Yeah, I didn't tell you that. >> I didn't Yeah. Yes, you're right. I didn't tell you. >> You're getting yourself wrapped up. I don't think you might understand the the that you were facing felony charges. That's what I'm trying to to to get. >> Well, I already told that he was driving. I already told him. >> So, is that the Dawn brand done? Is that where you get from? Yes. So, how do you know this man? I know him. >> So, he's at your house, right? >> Basically, yeah. >> So, you don't know his name, but you he goes by Dawn. You can't tell me what he looks like. You I asked you I asked you where does he stay? Where is he at right now? >> This you asked her this or your sergeant. >> Let me see what what did I know where he was at the time? No, cuz when I pulled back up, he had already parked the car and came running to the store. So I didn't know where he were at the time that you called me. I just called my mama and my mama was like somebody my phone had been dead for a long time. >> So you >> So I didn't know where he was at the time at the time. >> You you initially told me that you were on Hawthorne extension when this man came up and asked you >> exactly >> now you're telling me that you were at home and he brought the car back to your house. >> I'm saying listen >> how'd you get from Athens to Mong. >> Somebody brought me. So >> So somebody took you right here. I I lied. tried to protect him. So now he's in, you know, but I didn't know nothing about what he had did. Like when I when I talked to you, I ain't know nothing about what he had did. But in my mind, I'm like, "Hold on. What's you know what's going on?" And that's when I got the original story after getting on the phone with y'all. So I didn't know like that's when I got the original story like when he came Yeah. when he came running like oh my god. I was like I'm like you need to do something about like what's going on like I'm angry. like you need to do something about it. I don't know what you got going on. Like he was like he finds something. He got war. I said what you got to warrant? Like oh you got to do something about it. I said like you you messing up your life. Like what is you doing? Like you know like why you >> and here's the thing. >> But I was scared. I'm I'm I already got anxiety. So I don't like talking to the police. So I know I immediately like anybody would tell you that I'm always like I just like how I'm talking now. I'm like >> just know that. >> No, I'm aware. Well, I'll talk to you later. >> Yeah, I'm just um He had the hat on, too. And I think it's on y'all body camera. >> That's Well, that's I saw the hat. That's what And here's this is why when I was on the phone with you and I understand you have anxiety. I have anxiety, too. I'm on medication for it. I understand you have anxiety. >> So, I was just frustrated like I don't know deal. What is going on? >> Listen to me, okay? Just listen to me for a second. I understand that you got anxiety. But I told you on the phone, I said you can help yourself by being upfront with me because what I told you on the phone, I said, "You're facing charges." >> I didn't have too much information then. >> Well, I was trying I was trying to talk to you back and forth about it, but you kept talking over me and getting worked up and frustrated. But I tried to tell you, I said, "You're facing charges and you're facing when when you run from the police, all I got to do tomorrow is call your insurance company and say, "Hey, that car just ran from the police." They >> But I knew I didn't. So I would lie >> regardless of that insurance. Listen to me. The insurance covers the car. >> So all I got to do is call the insurance company. They can't see the insurance. >> Car is at risk of being towed. You're at risk of having felony warrants, losing your insurance. I'm assuming this is your only vehicle, right? >> Yeah. >> Losing how you get around. I'm trying to tell you all of this to to have a conversation with you and help you be honest. So so we could get this figured out. >> I probably couldn't have a conversation with you. Why I would be in cuz I'm tell when if you got anxiety when your anxiety be high like you everything just be running through your head like you don't be thinking about like what they saying to you present you be thinking about like what them told you three four minutes ago like what somebody ran in my car and like so you trying to think of you know like you know what the world you so so I was just irritated and just trying to just talk real fast but if I would have calmed down maybe I probably could do it but I mean we in this situation So the only thing to do is just get in the situation. But at the end of the day, I know I'm not going to get in no further trouble because I didn't have nothing to do with this situation. Didn't know about this situation at all until after I call y'all. So I couldn't tell y'all too much. >> And that's a lot of the reason why when I'm too much, >> that's a lot of the reason why when I'm talking to my sergeant, I'm like, "Let me go and talk to her because I'm inclined to believe that he ran. He's got a warrant, right? He's got a warrant. He's got I mean felony drug history out of our county. I don't know what was in the car. Most likely dope as >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They could have checked the car. >> So, he just ran because it was a warrant warrant. You don't have a warrant. So, I'm not permission. >> Usually, when people run from the police, it's not because they're innocent, right? Usually, it's because they got a warrant or something in the car or >> That's what I asked him after like all the time. I don't know if you want to tell me or not, but that's what I was like, why you here? But then, like I said, that was after I talked to y'all after he came to the like I was at I was at the store. He came walking real fast to the store like I'm like, "What's going on?" You know, like I when when my mama called me, I called y'all. >> So, I was completely like, you know, in the thing, but then I heard the story after like, oh my god, like what the world told them somebody else name like what the you know, like what? cuz I'm trying to like just say something at this point because mine's already everywhere and I probably couldn't answer questions even if I wanted to at the time. >> Okay, so >> he was everywhere. >> Just for future reference. I hope you don't end up in this situation again. But for future reference, okay? You will avoid going to jail and you will avoid all of this [ __ ] because that's what it is, right? It's [ __ ] You will avoid all of this if you were just honest up front. Okay? Have you just said, "This is who's driving my car. I don't want to ride him out, but I'm not taking the fall for his charges. This is where he's at. I would have sent this officer to go get him, and then he wouldn't do a hand right now. Because when you lie to us and we know that you're lying and we know that you're hindering our investigation, that's called obstruction. Okay? >> Yes. >> You can't do that. I mean, I guess you can, but there's consequences to it. You get what I'm saying? So, what we're going to do now, because I I'm inclined to believe I'm inclined to believe that he ran one. I'm putting charges on him for the felony fleeing and all of that stuff and I'm gonna take you first charge which is a mystery. >> Man, I gonna do my job. Like please let me go home for the night. Please. I like I like if I would have like look I'm telling you if I would have knew before I probably would have told I probably would have told because I've been frustrated like been frustrated anyway. Like just been frustrated anyway. Like you know something got to change but I ain't know nothing about no you know like that until he told me. I'm like, why you wrong? You know, why is this? Why this, you know, like so he already be like problems anyway. So, I really wasn't care about trying to, you know, like try to protect. >> But Miss Smith, you knew it was him all along cuz you said gone and that's his name. So, you knew it was him all along. >> Well, that mean I told y truth then, but you >> That's not the truth. Miss Smith told the truth. You wouldn't be here in handcuff. >> That's not the truth. Don and Brandon, what's his last name? Callahan. Brandon Callahan. You know, people got nicknames. He >> But you know his name. You know his name is Brandon. >> Yeah, I know. >> You knew that he was at your coming to your house in your car. >> He also asked you what his name was. His nickname, >> huh? >> He said he also asked you what his name was. >> That's that's what I'm saying, right? You you you intentionally lied to us making us go through all of this. And even more so, it's the simple fact of like I get that running from the police is what's like hot and cool nowadays, but >> No, it's not hot and cool. >> He put my life in danger. He put seven of my officers lives in danger. He put two troopers in danger. He put every single individual that was on the road in danger, which if I had to estimate was about 50 cars that he was weaving in and out of. Like that's not that's not >> that's why I asked him like if I was in the car it it would definitely would have been a complete stop. But I'm trying to like what makes you think that it's like cool to like why is it cool to runes these days? No, it's not like whatever. >> That's not cool. a lot of the police. >> Not that either. No. But listen, you're not getting you're not getting charged with felonies. You're just going to get charged with misdemeanor obstruction for lying to me. Okay. >> So, I got to go. So, I got to go to jail tonight. >> You'll bond out. >> Can I give you a ticket? >> Just listen. Just listen. >> You will You will bond out. It's a very quick turnaround. It's a misdemeanor. Do you have you What's your criminal history look like? >> I got Oh, I ain't got no I'm not on probation. >> You're not on probation. Nothing like that. You will bond out almost to me. It's a misdemeanor. >> But both of them drove to Athens. I think they got to Hawthorne Extension. Probably hung out at this dude Glenn and Dean's house because that's where everybody hangs out. He took her car to the Is that what she said? >> He took her car to the store, ran from us, went back, picked her up, and she drove her back. That's what happened. >> Cuz I mean, there was nobody in the car, and it was a bigger figure. Like I thought it was a male just from the shadow that I could see because of how >> how big he looked and then he was wearing a snapback. So >> pull or stop sign. He acted like he was going to pull over at first and then shot through the back of the parking lot back out onto the road. Then he cut all the car lights off thinking that that was going to make me not be able to see him. Street lights everywhere. But yeah. Hey, Brandon. What's up, man? I'm officer Peneli. Okay. You wanted to know what you're being charged with. Um, so it's felony fle attempted to law enforcement officer running a stop sign, running two red lights, uh, failure to maintain lane, and reckless driving. >> Okay. >> And what other charge I got? How many how long? How are they warranted? So, your warranty call. >> They did put a hole. Okay. All right. That's fine. I'll let me look up that warrant information for you. Okay. Cuz I didn't sign that warrant. It's old. So, let me look it up. [music] Violation. It looks like you at one point got charged with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute that fire seed of stolen property. Times two. [music] session marijuana. You got a misdemeanor bench warrant for DUI, violation of your permit law, and then fail to maintain lane. So, it looks like just probation violation. >> Oh, so that that stuff right there is my >> That's all your uh past stuff that you got to want for. When the last time you talked to your probation officer, >> man, but it been so long. It's >> been a long time. I'm going to be honest, man. At the time, I'm just be at the time when everything went down, bro. I just had got out, bro. >> I had been out too long. My son was young. Y >> So [ __ ] I b like man, I can't go back right now cuz he was too young. But now my son grab he to make it. So >> like I was about to go and just, you know, come out and get this [ __ ] over with, man. But >> I don't know, man. Like I'm tired anyway. You know, you just tire like living like this. This if this they weren't probably from what 2013 or 14? >> It's probably old. >> You know what I'm saying? Almost. >> It's probably old, man. Yeah. So, what what they'll do um how long were you sentenced for probation? >> How long ago? >> Yeah. Or how long was your probation term? Was it like 10 years probation, 5 years probation? >> Something like that. Something like that. So, what they'll do, um, however much probation that that you've actively served, they'll credit that, or they should at least, they'll assign you a new probation officer. I'm assuming yours probably doesn't work here anymore. And then, >> what's up, man? >> And then they'll give you a return. They'll give you a um a new limit for probation. Okay? So, they'll be like, "Well, you've already done this much time on probation. You got four more years left or three more years left." They'll just hook you up with a new probation officer. And man, if you're tired of living like this, just keep up with that probation license. I know it's probably a pain in the ass. I've never dealt with it before, but >> yeah, man. It was just like I'm be I'm tell y'all this [ __ ] Y'all see how it is now, right? >> It was nothing like that. It's so [ __ ] up these folks out there and fit and all this [ __ ] man. So, I got a way. I I miss I could be dead. I got friends that got killed. So, I look like I changed my life, man. Like, I had to figure out a way to survive the right way. So, I've been surviving the right way this whole time, man. Cuz I ain't been in no charge. You feel what I'm saying? So I tell you, whatever you want to do, I'm I'm man, I'm sorry. I I face my time, but I'm a changed man. I ain't the same person I was, you know? So, >> and that's that's good, man. Did you So, you're you can answer this. You cannot. You've already been read Miranda, so you understand your rights. Okay. They they read you. Yeah. >> Is that Did you run cuz you knew you had the warrant? >> What you mean? >> Tonight. No, >> I'm just saying, man, like the whole situation, man, it it just >> you just didn't want to go back. It's just like they would come different and lock up. So I had, you know, I got to do what I got to do for her. You know what I'm saying? >> All right. You good? >> Yeah. >> Thanks again, bro. All right. trying to pull pull him over. >> Run a stop sign. >> Really? >> Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Dust.