the member protected activity so why don't you get back in your car and get back to your job this is not your job don't go to the health department people's private information is protected they have it posted that there's no video or photography now let me explain this no let me explain this to you I police officers love to talk nonsense and mess with Auditors but what happens when the officers get in arguments with people recording them and showcase their lack of knowledge about the law on camera here are two crazy examples where cops know nothing about the rights starting off we've got an independent journalist recording in a public area when three police officers step inside they start talking to the man and things soon get heated up let's see how it plays out so what do you got to wow look guys we got three officers for somebody with a camera okay I am exercising I'm an independent journalist Gathering content for story I'm exercising My First Amendment right this is a public Lobby I can be here I'm adjusting my government okay they have a policy policy doesn't Trump my first amendment okay HIPAA doesn't relate to me they have to create their prophecy I'm not here I'm not here for ill intent I'm not here for anything illegal right but policy doesn't turn my first amendment rights so you're here to uphold I do all the public buildings I if you wanted to check I just went left the probation office over there very respectful but you need to educate them you took over to the Constitution so you have to uphold My First Amendment rights officer so the auditor gave this officer about a minute long explanation of what he's doing there the officer did seem a bit bored while listening to it though but was acting respectively for now let's see what the officer has to say in response where you need to inform this later right here I do everywhere so policy does not Trump and this lady out here doesn't seem to understand that policy doesn't Trump my constitutional rights so be very I'm just I'm just warning you you'll notice that if you well thank you I appreciate it okay well if you violate my rights then there will be litigations well please educate these people terrified of a camera are you doing are you feeling officer are you the Constitution officer you did you did you know exactly who I am so you know you know my demeanor I do I'm here to educate them okay that's just me I love to keep things and that's my whole intent in anything yeah and I've got you I've got you on video yeah we've had our interaction officer you know what I do so the people's watching so I would like for you to educate this lady on First Amendment rights constitutional rights I will not do that okay well you need to inform her that I'm allowed to be here okay please do that please well if you're out here well y'all need to take it back there then but I'm allowed to be here so just know that okay during the chatting another officer called officer Jones arrived to the scene to listen to what the two were talking about he doesn't get involved right off the bat but when he hears that the auditor is trying to educate the other officer about the First Amendment rights he introduces himself and intervenes right well these people also have their right to be here no they do have a right to be here but there's no expectation of privacy in public you need to understand that officer but you need to understand that say here we go with her feelings are you have feelings please are you a law enforcement no no you're you're your place it's not necessarily this is a public place this officer thinks he's so right mind you what he's saying is that people who are in a public area are expecting privacy I mean while some might they're wrong since there's no such thing as privacy at a public location and the man is allowed to record and do whatever he wants there the auditor then tells officer Jones The Following I'll tell you what if you think that that's true go ahead and arrest me and when you do by this evening I'll have a lawsuit fought against you do you understand because their feelings don't not Trump my rights so you need to know that is not a statute disorderly conduct I'm not filming no personal information I'm here to video take the people here the public servants then the third officer comes in and this one is ready to start a serious argument notice how officer Jones leaves as the argument starts let's see how it plays out [Music] of information is protected they have it posted because there's no video or photography now let me explain this no let me explain this to you I am a free citizen understand that their policy does not Trump My First Amendment rights do you understand that people's private health I'm not here for their private information they have to create that they have to create that you may not record here yes I am I will policy doesn't Trump sorry I'm going to tell you this if you if you do something that uh this is a public area I'm just going to tell you you will be filed in the federal lawsuit information you will be you will be named in a federal lawsuit do you understand that they have to create that privacy I don't okay apparently you don't know I'm not trying to videotape them they're in a public area okay there's no expectation no expectation of privacy in public no expectation of privacy in public now all right Sergeant so no so you go to do what you got to do but I'm going to tell you this you'll be named in the federal litigation okay so go ahead it's a policy man policy does not Trump First Amendment so this officer is claiming the exact same thing as the previous one that people in a public area have their own privacy the chatting comes to a point where the auditor gets completely sick of it and starts ignoring the female officer but now he's back to the first officer he spoke to in the beginning of the encounter the only thing that I had I need to educate your sergeant you know apparently she's uneducated like I said I'm a peaceful person I know that don't get me directions at this point even the officers start to disagree with each other not directly but their stories are clearly not going towards the same direction tell me that but don't give me directive I know I'm all right sharing information all right what do you got I'm not trying to videotape them okay well their feelings does not matter Sergeant or young you should know this there's no I'm gonna get there eventually I hope so maybe she needs to take your place yeah no expectation of Prophecy and public learn that you're gonna you're gonna learn that real quick all right well so I wish to guide you with violet please I respectfully Define there's nothing you can do about it there's nothing you can do about yourself but see once again here we go are you the feelings please okay but you're not going to step on my rights that's when I get upset okay do you understand that do you do you understand that I haven't forced you to leave you can't do that I wish to guide you would I'm not I wish to God you would because that would be a major lawsuit please I've got a lawyer on standby so please go ahead and do what you're going to do but you need to be educated okay there's no expectation and privacy up there on the computers getting their information they don't this is a public Lobby public Lobby okay I'd go to your police station I can film there too absolutely okay so don't sit here and try to tell me that you're gonna do something I wish to God you would I wish you would feel that way because see this is people who that damn policy right there don't mean it doesn't mean nothing no thank you bye now it's true that the man recording is completely right but come on was a tone like that necessary the officers did him no harm and never threatened him with anything they were actually trying to be reasonable but if we look solely at the law the man was in the right here there's no denying that now this individual had a camera and was exercising his first amendment right by confronting these officers in a public area we call this first amendment auditing the reason behind these actions is to prevent police from asserting dominance wherever they go certain locations like Health departments might have regulations in place that prohibit photography or recording due to the handling of sensitive and confidential information however it's crucial to note that these restrictions don't hold the power to indiscriminately override basic rights while such rules are designed to safeguard privacy in confidentiality it's important to know that they can't be invoked to undermine fundamental individual rights but if you thought this first situation was pure nonsense wait till you see the next one in this next police encounter we've got an auditor deeply discussing rights and responsibilities with a few police officers thanks to this footage we know what officers truly act like and what their intentions are take a look I'm doing well that's not the way this goes who are you I'm Sergeant barrients Fort Wayne Police Department how are you good what's your name I didn't give it I know I want to know what's your name I don't care what you want well that's that's not the policy Secret Service then why don't why don't they come out here and talk they will okay go ahead am I being detained what's your name am I being detained what is your name am I being detained I'm gonna assume no what's that I'm gonna say hey don't you touch me don't you touch me public servant don't touch what look public servant you don't touch me all right you don't touch me or else what you don't touch me or else I will file a complaint you can file a complaint don't touch me identify you you're being live streamed nope all right so right off the bat the auditor and the officer start arguing and that argument quickly accelerates into threatening each other the auditor is threatening with a lawsuit while the officer keeps repeating the classic tough guy phrase or else what hey stop no am I being detained yes you are am I being detained identify who you are that's not the way this goes well I don't care what you think okay excuse me sir excuse me I'm not no secret service says I don't care to identify I don't care what they want okay that's not the way this goes I understand that show me the law okay I understand that show them what what have I broken what law have I broken okay law have I broken arrival of the president it doesn't even close until three o'clock I understand that oh dude do you understand that what's your name do you understand that what's your name what is your badge number one six four seven I'm gonna file a complaint with officer Reed that's okay and your Internal Affairs Department that's okay you don't touch you don't touch me okay I did not touch you yes you did I have it all live streamed between three cameras okay don't touch me not to mention the other ones that are watching you right now okay don't touch me you have no right why won't you give your name I have no I have no business to give you my name okay I haven't brought what ordinance have I broken well firstly the officer doesn't want to answer the man's questions and keeps asking the auditor to provide his name meanwhile the auditor still cannot get over the fact that the officer touched him and keeps on threatening with the lawsuit it's funny how the officer keeps on saying okay to everything the auditor says as if he was a yes man playing Simon says what ordinance have I broken what is your name have I committed a misdemeanor am I being detained yes you are for under what probable cause okay what is what is your Ras your reasonable articulable suspicion that I've committed a crime you have your face covered it's cold outside I have gloves on it's cold outside I can't operate the camera I've been doing this and sticking it inside my jacket oh Europe is so cold I've been alternating it takes video as well as uh pictures I can alternate between them so I want to reach out to uh 600 on Tech Nine advice and subject is refusing I'm not refusing the ID I'm I'm saying I haven't broken a law probable cause the Secret Service is out under what probable cause I haven't committed a crime I haven't put it doesn't matter you have two if you have to detain me then I'm leaving what am I being detained for is that your name what am I being detained for now at this point it's pretty obvious that the officer this man is speaking to either an NPC or a broken record or both he's repeating himself continuously even though everything he's saying is against the law so the officers got enough and calls it in lying over the radio as well but then another officer arrives to the scene am I being detained for this service is clear to you what am I being detained for what's your name officer identify you what's your what is your name sir my name is Detective tagmire what is your badge number sir thank you what is your name sir what reasonable artibial suspicion why don't you get the chief down here Chief's busy well tell tell Mr Reed to come down here he knows who I am tell the chief to come here 600 6 20. tell the chief to come here let the Secret Service know that the subject is failing to identify I'm not failing to ID identify I'm not under three four one two five three point five that's not it it's not failure ID you haven't told me what crime I've committed okay just a second no they're talking in my ear you're not going anywhere don't touch me you're not going anywhere why am I being detained why am I being detained you haven't given me probable cause for me to be detained a second I don't need a problem yes you do you need reasonable article of Suspicion that's right yes what is it what is it what what crime have I committed of what crime right now of what crime you can't hold me for you're not sure you know you cannot it's called the Terry stop no that then Terry frisked me I don't need the frisky right now okay we're over five minutes into this encounter and the officers still haven't told the auditor the reason for his alleged detention the closest they've got to the answer is saying we don't know why we're detaining you yet we're trying to figure it out which is just ridiculous don't reach in my pockets that's not part of the Terry Frisk unless I feel something that could be Contraband or a weapon then I can no you can't correct that's not a Terry stop there it is nope it's a cursory search how dumb do you think the public is I don't think they're dumb at all yeah I've got three officers here I think they're antiguous yeah three officers I'm out here taking video and pictures where's the crime in that and I'll tell them the same thing I'm telling you it's not a crime certainly rage is suspicion it doesn't matter if it raises suspicion it's not a crime certainly does no it doesn't it's not a crime it's not it's suspicious activity is that a misdemeanor a felony sir suspicious activity misdemeanor misdemeanor or felony it's neither that's right it's neither so I haven't committed a crime no but that doesn't mean we can't talk to you well you can't detain me that's the thing did you take a note sir I'm talking to you did you take an oath did you take I don't care what you're doing did you take a note I'm talking to you public servants I'm talking to you public servant did you take an oath did you take an oath I did to uphold the Constitution I did this is a First Amendment protected activity so why don't you get back in your car and get back to your job unhappy with the schooling the officer starts to shush the auditor taking his non-professionalism another step further this is not your job don't do that to me you keep leaning in like you can here so I'm speaking up for you so I have two I have two okay so what what's your name sir his name is Officer fry his name is detective tagmire what's your badge number sir you don't need to know that it's in a policy it's in your policy he's still here on scene I'm still here it doesn't matter he's still on scene okay what's your badge number so when I file a complaint he was witness to you battering me battering yes what's your name sir his name is Officer Frye his name is detective tagmire what's your badge number sir you don't need to know that it's in a policy it's in your policy he's still here on scene I'm still here it doesn't matter he's still on scene okay what's your badge number so when I file a complaint he was witness to you battering me battering yes you touch me rude you touch angry manner you touch me you feel pain you touch me emotionally maybe now there's the third officer whose body posture tells us he doesn't know what the heck is going on he's just surprised with the emotional damage the officer's physical contact has caused to the man recording because you cannot touch a citizen you can't you can't if I touched you that way even with a finger even if it just touched your clothes I'm going to jail you already did that I did not going to jail I did not you touched me no it's all on camera I did not you can't do that you have to have reasonable articulable suspicions what crime have I committed what crime have I committed what crime have I committed it's a broken record it's going over and over no well because I need to know you can't articulate a crime why don't you just get the chief out here he'll clear it up no we won't yes he will no he has tasked us to deal with this well do you ask you go ask him to come here what's your name sir my name is Officer Adam Hartman 1896 the Fort Wayne Police Department okay thank you thank you for being professional unlike these guys who have illegally detained me and this guy decided he wanted to put his hands on me can you do something about that well he's a sergeant it doesn't matter can you please arrest this man something here well hey I am going to file a complaint but but that is not it can you arrest this man for illegally touching me no I don't witnessed any crime I'll show you I'll show you the crime no matter how many officers come to the scene the auditor outsmarts them all this one for instance left before he even came and he looked so promising at first since his approach was quite professional which even the auditor pointed out let's see how the situation plays out is being live streamed as we speak okay I just got uh advised no listen there's no need to swear yeah yes there is because you can't be illegal entertainment you you are you are you are illegally detaining you are yeah well you said you can hear you said you can't hear I'm obliging you can you hear now I can hear now listen this is this is these are your options I'm not I'm not wanting to hear am I being detained or am I free to go am I being detained or am I free to go am I being detained or am I free to go are you gonna allowed me and by being detained once you answer my question yes I'm gonna give you what your options are I don't care what my options are I have a right to leave am I being detained or am I free to go am I being detained or am I free to go I heard the same thing you did am I being detained or am I free to go you're being able to change under what suspicion of crime I don't need to hear your lip am I being detained or am I free to go that's the only thing that matters has been secured and rented by am I being detained or am I free to go am I being am I being detained or am I free to go am I being detained other side am I being detained or am I free to go am I being detained am I free to go do you understand am I being detained or am I free to go do you understand am I being detained or am I free to go am I being detained or am I free to go sir your refusal to leave am I being detained or am I free to go do you do you need me to go ahead and sign language it am I being detained or am I free to go you know how to sign do you want me to say it in Spanish or French am I being detained or am I free to go which which one you have to release me from detainment it's not up for me to make a decision whether or not I understand something it's up to you to release me from my detainment am I being detained or am I free to go thank you sir I don't care to hear your lips so all this only for one simple sentence you're free to go was it really worth it I mean if you ask the officer he'd probably say yes