Get your arm out. >> My baby's in the car. >> Yeah, we got your baby >> and I'm pregnant with my stomach. Soon >> as you got handcuffs, huh? >> Please, sir. I'm going to get in big trouble. >> Well, you shouldn't have spoke. >> I don't care. I will give it back. >> I don't care. >> I'm going TO GIVE IT BACK. >> That's not how it works. >> Okay. >> Okay. Go to jail. >> On May 14th, 2024, Milbourne police stopped two women outside a New Jersey mall. Store employees had reviewed surveillance footage and identified both suspects before officers arrived. >> Roll your windows down. >> How you doing? >> For this going to be it. >> How you doing? >> Do me a favor. Step out of the vehicle. >> Okay. >> Just let you know everything recorded on body cam. All right. >> Me? >> Yeah. Everything's been recorded on body cam. I have to let you know. >> Okay. >> All right. I'm going to read your rights real quick. Okay. >> With the right to main sign. >> Anything you say, cut them over against the court of law. >> You have a right to attorney. If you can't afford them, one could be appointed you by the court. You understand? >> So what are you doing? stealing from Sunglass today. >> Who? Me? >> Yeah, you. We have video of you stealing from Sunglass. >> Can I see it? >> Yeah, we can pull up the video. >> I saw it 100%. >> Who? Me? >> New Jersey Hotel. >> Stay back to the rear of the car. >> Okay. One second. >> Go to the rear of the car. >> Go to the rear of the car. >> Jersey 2017. >> Can I just put the baby in the car, please? anything that you >> take the car seat out. Put it on the back of the car. >> All right. >> It's one or the other. Either take the car seat out >> and put it on the trunk or you hold him. >> Let me just He's running. HEAT. HEAT. HUH? Who's the mother? >> She's run all the way. >> But who's the mother of the baby? >> Which one? >> The mother. Who's the Are you the mother? Who's the mother? >> I just call her. I don't know her whole name. >> Okay. Do you know where the baby is? >> The Do I know who the baby is? >> Yeah. >> Which one? with the mother. >> Anessa, >> I don't know her real name. >> Is she here with you today? >> Yeah. >> OKAY. >> Get your arm out. >> Hey, my baby's in the car. Yeah, we got your baby >> and I'm pregnant. Can I go to my stomach? >> As soon as you got handcuffs, huh? >> Please, sir. I'm going to get in big trouble. >> Well, you shouldn't have. >> I don't care. I will give it back. >> I don't care. >> I'M GOING GIVE IT BACK. >> THAT'S not how it works. >> Okay. >> Give me your arm. >> Okay. I'm not going to go to jail forever. Please. >> Put your hand behind your back. >> I'm not coming. I got my baby in it. >> Can you give her a call so she could get the baby? Unfortunately, >> can you call her so she can come pick up the baby? >> Her phone in the car. >> We don't believe so. We're double checking her. >> Her phone's in the car. Why would she go to the mall without her phone? >> It was dead. >> I don't know where she was. >> We see this every day. All right. Huh? >> We see this every day. >> Mhm. >> You guys went in the mall together and you guys both shopless. We got it all on video. >> I shoplift. >> Yes, you did on video. Sunglass. Both of them. >> No, I didn't. >> Stay back here. >> I'm just trying to make sure the baby Okay. Can I open the door? You did? >> I did. >> Just have the step by. Oh, hold off. >> Yeah. And we're going to try and receive a relative come with the baby. >> Can I get a car? >> Roll. Roll. Sit on your butt. Sit right there. >> No. >> Please. She doesn't know. >> Stop talking. Stop talking. >> She doesn't know. Please. She doesn't know. >> Now they got to go and tell her. >> She doesn't know. >> LISTEN TO ME. You're under arrest, right? >> Okay. But she >> Listen to me. >> You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can or will be used against you in the court of law. >> Trouble. >> You have the right to an attorney. If you can't afford one, want to be provided for you. Everything's recorded right here. Okay. >> Trouble with this. >> Do you have receipt for this? >> Yes. It's in the car. >> How about this? >> It's in the car. >> How about this? >> Yes. In the car. store. >> Search for the car. >> Yes, it is. >> We're searching the entire car. >> Okay. >> The entire car. So, I don't want to hear. >> Okay. >> Bravo 6. You can just discard the squad for now. >> Trying to make other arrangements for the baby to a random person. >> You need her to show up or we need her to call contact some her relative. Not your relative, her rel. Cuz what will happen is we're just going to have doctors come take the baby. That's how it's going to work. >> Since you don't know who she is, we need her to come back and grab the grab her child and then she can make the arrangements that she needs to do. >> What's in all the shopping bags in there? >> No, that was something. No, that was just something I was going to try to uh return. Yeah. >> So, there's receipts and everything in those bags. >> Yeah. Lower level. >> I'm not sure. >> Can I look in the bags? >> Yeah. I never went to Detroit. Nothing. >> Okay. So, give me permission to look in the bags in the front. [crying] >> And Lulu, go to Lulu, >> too. >> Ma'am, I'm advising you to stop talking forever. Well, that's dumb. Then you shouldn't have stolen. >> I got to teach you how to act like an adult. >> You got a kid and you're doing it. >> I don't care who money is this. >> Stop talking. How many times I got to tell you? >> You are You should have thought about that before you wanted to steal. >> You're in essence. >> I'm never going to >> stop talking. >> That's my >> What about that? That's a sensor, right? >> That's not Yeah, I >> No, they take that. Oh, you did take that. >> I took that. >> Perfect. >> I'm breaking it. Stop talking. >> I just want to >> Stop talking for 3 seconds. >> Sit down. >> I'm just going to stand. That's all. >> Sit down. >> I'M HURTING. >> CAN I JUST GET UP for a second? >> You're perfectly fine. >> No, but let me just get up. Let me just get up for a second. >> No, you ran. So, you know what you were doing. Don't get up. >> I RAN BECAUSE I'M I HAVE MY in the car. >> In the car. You left in the car, right? I didn't leave HIM IN THAT CAR BY HIMSELF. HE'S WITH MY FRIEND. >> NO, WE GOT HIM, TOO. >> HUH? >> We got there, too. >> Everyone's under. Your baby's coming to headquarters. >> Yes, he is. >> Nope. >> We're past that point. >> Can I? >> Yeah, just her. She's poking towards me. Careful. >> There's tags. Looks like there's tags on everything. >> Victoria Secret. >> I got to look at the skill. I'm assuming cuz she said Victoria's Secret and where the sunglasses. That's what I'm going to look looking for. >> That was the sign I was going to return. >> I got you. You got the receipts from this stuff. >> Is that home? That's why that's why I never >> Oh, no. That's her license. >> You checking for warrants? >> She didn't have her license on her. >> Check. Can you check all around? >> I already did. Yeah. >> Okay. your car. >> Can my sister come in, please? >> Can my sister come up? I don't want the baby to >> STOP TALKING. >> WHY CAN'T I TALK? >> I'm going to deal with all this. Just take her down. >> It's a gift to to the to my friend. She's >> She's going to arrest, too. >> She just She didn't take anything I did. I took everything. She didn't take anything. >> Can I just respond? Maybe he needs to. >> He has my phone. He has everything. >> Okay, we're going back to my car now. >> HOW AM I not able to be able to see her? >> Because you're under arrest. You don't get that privilege. >> Yeah, but my son. I CAN'T SEE MY SON. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO with my son? My mom could come get him. Please. >> If you keep yelling, then that's not going to be an option. I told you to stop already. >> I am sorry. I'm just scared because I'm already in a situation. >> Well, you put yourself in that situation. You're going you're a grown ass woman >> and I have nothing. Sir, you work. I don't work. >> And this is the only option. >> I chose to work, right? You could have worked. >> What's up, man? >> We got both of them. >> You work back. >> Yeah. The one was stupid enough to come back in. >> I don't think your sunglasses are no female, right? >> One of them. What I done is that this one is exact here. >> So the one with the the Hispanic chick, she took this one and the chick she took this [ __ ] right here. >> Both over 200. >> This one was 600. >> 600. All right, perfect. >> Uh yeah, concealment on both of them from the sunglass side at least. >> Uh yeah, black or the two pairs. Uh, Dolce Gabbana. >> Black Dolce Gabbana >> and a black Chanel. >> And a black Chanel. >> The Gabana had gold. >> Guess you're going to go lower level, too. Hang in the ass, man. >> How you doing? >> Good. >> Yeah. Is it yours? >> How you doing? >> Good. How you doing? that one. >> This one is all yours. >> You guys pro willing to press charges. >> But I'm going just double check cuz >> if you're not, we keep the bags. If >> we're not, you keep the bags. >> Yep. You got to press charges and take custody of them. That's outlet. >> What's up? >> That black one is outlet. >> No, that's her personal. That's that wasn't from today. >> Yep. Those are ours. Those are ours. >> Perfect. You guys can There you go. A lot of bags back here. Oh, that was open. Yes. There we go. Let me try mic. >> Here you take so you guys know all security. They don't want to give you >> Oh, thank you so much. Thank you. I love you. >> Oh my god. >> It's important to know cuz if you step back on property, we can just arrest you. >> I know I'm not. I promise you all my life. Have a seat. >> Oh my god. Thank you so much. Thank you. >> I'm getting my good ones. I have things that I have to give him. He has medicine in my bag. Okay. That I have to give him. Do you understand, sir? >> I understand. It's a pretty simple concept. >> Okay. I just want to just give him the medicine. She I hope she's not getting locked up cuz she didn't do nothing. >> Sit down, please. >> She didn't do anything. I promise you. >> Sit down, please. All right. I'm just going to reach over and grab the seat belt. >> I promise she didn't do nothing. everything. Just send her so she can take my home. Okay, please. She didn't do anything. I promise here. This is what county five mom to come get here. Where are we anyway? >> You You drove here. You tell me. >> I don't know where we at. My friend drove here. >> Get locked up. >> She does not. And he took my place for my son medicine in it. >> Okay. Well, that's not We don't steal things, so that's going to be >> But I just need to give it to him. Sometime he has an ear infection. Actually, you're right. I should have never I should have never did this. You're absolutely right. I had no right here. >> Nope. >> I hate I hate my life. I hate it. I hate my life. And I hate that positive help me do nothing. This is why I do what I have to do. I'm tired of this [ __ ] I should have never came outside. Should have never came here. You guys pulled over the car. >> Yep. >> So, how you guys know car like you know it was and stuff? >> We watched you guys. >> Huh? >> We watched you guys. >> Watch us do what? >> Still. >> Yes. How you want me to go back inside? >> Um, who can pick him up right now? She's saying her mom and her sister haven't respond right now. Okay. >> Um, yeah, we we found some drugs in the baby's bag. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Ask her. She's saying that she didn't know about it. >> Okay. >> Who was this person to her? >> Yeah. >> And you know, listen, she was in possession of a baby, so who knows? But let's find out about the the drugs. If not, we'll you know. >> Yeah, I'll find out. I got it. >> Listen. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. >> I just want his medicine. That's what infection. >> You're going to keep yelling cuz I'm not going to talk if we're going to keep yelling. >> Y. >> Okay. But you But with two people talking at the same time doesn't work, right? >> Sorry. >> Can I talk so that way we can get this resolved, right? Okay. >> We'll get the medicine resolved. That's your baby, right? >> Yes. >> Who Who's this lady to? That's That's my friend. >> Your friend? >> Yes. Can Can she just go? >> Hold. >> No, she's not. >> Listen, she's not going anywhere. >> Didn't Didn't I say like, "Let me talk and then I'll let you say whatever you need to say." All right. So, that's your friend, your baby, right? That's your son. Is it? Okay. >> Okay. >> He's crying. I know. >> I I know he's crying. I understand. No. >> Now, listen. We'll deal with the medicine in a minute, but you got to listen to me. Okay. >> I just want medicine to come get him. I just want them to come get him. >> Who can come get him? >> My mom. >> Your mom. >> Yes. So, if we call your mom, where does your mom live? >> My mom live in London. >> In London? Okay. >> Yeah. And she can come and she can come right now. >> Can I call her off my phone? >> I'm asking. Can she come right now? >> Yeah. >> All right. Give me a second. All right. >> Can I just get the baby, please? Can you bring the baby right here? >> No. You're under arrest, so you can't do that. Okay. Listen. Listen. We'll get there. You got to let me talk to you, Sergeant. Please. >> He's right there. But make it doesn't change. Are you going to listen to me or No, let me finish. Okay. So, listen. Hear me out. I'm going to I'm going to grab your phone. We'll deal with the baby in a minute cuz I know you said he has got to get medicine. Okay. But let me get your phone. That way we can get your mom to come pick him up. Okay. And then we'll deal we'll we'll deal with the baby. You say he's got to get medicine. Right. >> All right. >> But can I speak to you, Sergeant? >> You can speak to him all day. That's fine. >> Sergeant, please. >> So, this is what we're going to do. Okay. >> Can I just walk? I'm not running nowhere. I don't want to run nowhere. I just want to just take the baby and calm down cuz he really is really sick. >> What does he have? >> He has an ear infection. >> Are you Are you on drugs or anything? You do drugs? >> Yeah. >> What do you do? Um, I do um I just do I smoke weed. >> You don't do heroin. You don't know that stuff. Crack. >> Does your friend do that? >> No. >> Okay. You She's Mandis. >> Yeah. Griffin. Okay. >> So, uh, we have a problem right now. >> What? >> I need you to be honest with me. >> Okay. I'm the supervisor right now. >> Um, we found drugs on your son >> and his diaper and his pants. >> Oh, that's not me. That's not me. I don't do no drugs. Does your friend do drugs? >> What does she do? What does she do? >> What does she do? >> I don't know. >> What? Coke? And it's not you. >> No, I don't do drugs. But why was she Oh my go. >> Why does she have your baby and not you? >> Because I was he was we The baby was in there with me. >> Where's the stroller? >> And then I came out. I have a stroller. I had I was holding him with the um with the car seat. >> All right. They all be there. >> We had a car seat. I was holding him with the car seat and then >> and then I was like inside, right? And then I came and then I was like, I'm going to come back. >> And then here then then this happened. >> Okay. >> And I'm telling you the honest truth. >> Where's your phone? You have a phone? >> No, Griff has it. I'm calling him now. >> All right. >> He has my wallet in my phone. He dumped everything on my bag. >> Okay. >> I don't even know what else he did. He probably dropped the medicine and everything. >> We We have everything. Don't worry about Can I get the baby? Now your handcuff. We're not going to know. Yo, >> you see my text? >> Right now, the officer's carrying his phone right now. >> You have all her stuff, right? >> Okay. >> Right now, we're going to have your mother >> cuz we we found the baby >> cuz we need uh we need to phone call the mom pick up the baby. We're in yellow ground. >> You know, doctors come in. We found drugs in >> No, I'm already on that because >> Okay. >> Um >> Yeah, I'll figure it out. >> Take what she needed to take. That's hers. >> Okay. So, we're doing a favor and we're holding on right now >> until your mother comes. >> Yeah. >> Are you listening to me? >> I'm listening. I just I just don't like when people lie. >> Cuz you just said you got an abortion, but in there you told me you were pregnant. >> Yeah. >> I got an abortion, but what I'm telling you is that Yes, I am. I I I SAID I WAS I just got an abortion. Yes, I was pregnant. I'm just telling you my stomach. I was You know what? I did it wrong. >> You told me you told me I was pregnant, but I got an abortion. I meant to say I was pregnant and I got an abortion and then you're on my stomach. >> But the drugs is not mine. Okay, I don't do stuff like that. >> Okay, that's even my baby thing, but I didn't want to be Am I going to count it? >> I don't I don't make that decision. >> Officers arrived with probable cause already established. Pennsylvania versus Mims 1977 authorized the exit order. Marilyn versus Wilson 1997 extended that authority to passengers. Both women were lawfully ordered out. Miranda versus Arizona requires warnings before custodial interrogation, not at detention, but before questioning begins while in custody. Sequence here, handcuffs, advisement, then questions. Correct. On both arrests. Neither suspect invoked silence after the advisement. The first admitted the theft on camera. The second attributed the narcotics to her companion. Both statements post-warning without invocation are fully admissible. Illinois versus Wllo 2000. Flight alone does not create probable cause. It did not need to store video already provided it before she ran. Flight added one charge resisting arrest under New Jersey title 2 C section 292. Arizona versus Gant permits a vehicle search where evidence of the offense of arrest may be found. Offense was theft. Officers searched the bags. Security tagged merchandise confirmed the connection. Constitutionally sound. Under New Jersey Title 2C section 2011, the individual sunglasses, $4 to $600 each, clear the thirdderee threshold on their own. Third degree, 3 to 5 year state prison. New Jersey defines an organized retail theft enterprise as two or more persons coordinating theft for profit. Losses above $12,000 across multiple stores satisfy that definition and push the charge one degree higher. The narcotics concealed on the infant activated New Jersey title 2C section 24 for conduct creating substantial risk of physical harm to a dependent. Actual harm is not required. Placement of a controlled substance on a dependent body is enough. Essex County charges this is secondderee. The risk itself is the element, not whether harm followed from it. The second suspect's denial does not resolve her exposure. Constructive possession requires knowledge and control, not physical handling. She was in the vehicle. the infant was in her care. That satisfies the statute. Section 24 for carries 5 to 10 years in Essex County. New Jersey's presumption of incarceration applies. A judge cannot impose probation without finding manifest injustice. That bar is high. A separate possession charge under title 2C section 35 10 attaches independently and does not merge. Both counts can run consecutively. The post Miranda admission on camera anchors the sentencing picture. Officers earn a B+. Miranda correct on both arrests. Vehicle search tied to the offense. Force proportionate. One failure. Perimeter control. The gap that gave the second suspect room to run while officers were understaffed. The first suspect earns a D. Physical compliance after handcuffing is the ceiling. Coordinated multi storere theft with a dependent present. Then an on camera admission post Miranda. Nothing there to build a defense on. The second suspect earns an F. Concealing narcotics on an infant is a deliberate act. Flight added a charge. Her spontaneous attribution of the substance without invoking silence became usable evidence immediately. Three takeaways. Store video reviewed before police arrive is probable cause at first contact. Denying documented conduct does not create reasonable doubt. It places a denial alongside footage and footage wins. Silence requires invocation. Talking past a Miranda warning, even to redirect blame, keeps the record open. Both suspects produced admissible statements because neither invoked and neither stopped. Involving a dependent in criminal activity rarely stays one charge. A thirdderee theft case alongside a secondderee presumptive prison charge is the difference between a suspended sentence and state prison. Miranda, given correctly and not invoked, is the prosecutor's best evidentiary position. Officers gave the warnings at the right moment. Both suspects walked into the record without realizing it. Let us know which legal issue you find most significant in the comments below.