[snorts] >> The case starts with a simple parking lot crash, but the real problem may not be the collision itself. Investigators now have surveillance footage, a specific vehicle, and a timeline. And when someone says they were never at the scene while cameras may be telling a completely different story, that's when a minor accident can become a much bigger legal problem. >> The guy said you drove all the way down to the end. >> Oh, beautiful. If they did that, you're good. >> So, on my receipt it says when I came out of the store it says 5:00. I was only in there for 15 minutes. >> Okay. >> tight. >> You said 4:45 to 5:00? >> Yeah, if you want to do 4:40 to 5:00, but it was in there I I bought four items. >> That's fine. All right, give me a few minutes. I'm going to go out there if you don't mind hanging tight here so I can get some photos afterwards and I'll bring you back the information, okay? I'm going to just go see if I can get some video first to see what's going on. Yeah, no problem. Yep, you're fine. Just hang tight. >> My daughter is home. >> Okay. Is she home? >> Uh is your mom home? >> We just I just dropped her daughter off. >> Okay. You mind if we just go up and knock? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Hello. Is your wife home? >> Why? >> Okay, we need to speak with her about an incident that happened. Is the dog friendly? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Don't shoot my dog. >> No, no, no, I'm just asking. I'm just asking. >> They want to talk to you. An incident? >> Yeah, we're we just need to talk to her about an incident that happened. >> You got damn. But he's in training. >> He's in training. That's That's there's an additional >> [ __ ] You all look the same. >> Okay, understood, sir. We're We're just here to see what happened. That's all. >> Well, like I could give a [ __ ] who he is. You are three officers. For what? I I resent that. You know what? >> We'll explain when she gets out here and we'll we'll tell you. It It's really We're just looking to get some answers, okay? That's all. Cuz Do you know where your wife was earlier today? >> She's here. >> Like approximately 2 hours ago, maybe? >> Absolutely right. >> She was here? Okay. Okay. >> Absolutely. >> Tequila? >> Yes. >> Do you own this vehicle here? >> Yes. >> Were you at Walmart earlier today? >> No. >> You weren't? >> No. >> Okay, is there a reason why there's video of your vehicle at Walmart earlier today around 4:45-ish? >> No. >> What time is it right now? >> It is 6:30. >> I've been here the whole time. >> Is there somebody that would have been that would have taken your vehicle? >> Nobody's been here the whole time. >> Right? >> Yeah. >> Okay, so there's no other reason why somebody would have your vehicle? >> No. >> And they'd be going to Walmart? >> No. >> Does anybody have access to your vehicle? Any extra keys? >> Real quick. >> Yep. >> I understand you've got a lot of questions. What happened at Walmart? >> So, your vehicle is video recorded at Walmart hitting another vehicle and fleeing the scene. >> At Walmart today? >> At Walmart today. So, all we're looking to know >> the vehicle? >> This rear side, so there's damage consistent as well here. Okay. And we have photographs proving it. Like I said, there's a video. So, this is consistent damage with exactly what happened. The All the red damage here, all the damage to the to the tail light is on the ground at Walmart. Okay? The video shows your vehicle backing out of the spot, okay, hitting another vehicle, and then leaving. And there's cameras everywhere that show your tag exactly on on that. So, that's why we're here today. >> At 4:40? >> At about 4:45. I'd have to pull the exact time, but that's what happened. So, is there anybody that that would have access to the vehicle? Cuz at this point, all I need to conduct is a traffic crash. That's why I'm here. >> Okay. So, I just want to say this. I know you're talking to her. >> Mhm. Nope, go ahead. >> She just told me you just started >> That's it. >> Officer, I'm not going to disrespect you at all. But like, come on, man. >> Does that camera work? >> I don't know. >> You don't know? >> know. That's not our camera. >> Do you Are you the main driver of the vehicle? >> We're both of them, man. >> Who drives it more often? >> We're both 50/50 >> 50/50? >> the vehicle. >> Okay. So, nobody Nobody else would have had access to this vehicle whatsoever. >> I mean, I honestly I honestly don't know. I mean, there was several other people over here. >> Okay. >> There is a key we hang. >> Okay. >> Okay, I and I unders- I see by your okay's that you're not trying to listen to what I got to say, but there we had a had uh several people here today. >> Okay. >> And >> Are you the sole registrant? So, this is you. >> I mean, obviously that confirms that. >> I'm just I'm just asking you to confirm with you that there's nobody else that legally owns the vehicle, right? There's no other >> Not legally, no. >> But there But there's no other >> like we said, there's been several people here today. We've been having a good time. >> Okay. >> Having a barbecue, having drinks. >> Okay. >> And >> Look, if if you don't know who took the vehicle, I'm just going to go about my day and complete my my my investigation, okay? >> goes and what does that consist of for you? >> to consist of trying to figure out who was driving the vehicle when this vehicle crashed into the other one. Okay. >> You got your phone on you? >> No, I don't. >> I legally don't have to. Here's your registration back. Um you can pull the record on my name for the rest of my investigation further, okay? Um Like I said, this vehicle has been observed on video camera footage with the tag committing a crime, okay? >> So, I'm a D N A for you. >> The family insisted they didn't know who had been driving the SUV, but as officers continued asking questions, inconsistencies began to surface and the investigation grew more tense. >> So, when you'd be in contact, they'd be >> I'll be in contact. Well, obviously your vehicle has been damaged. Was this damage >> [ __ ] five cars deep with no [ __ ] proof like you said. >> there is proof. There's proof that your vehicle was in a crash, but not that you guys were in a crash. That's what we're here for, is to find out who was driving. Your vehicle was in a crash. Right? Your vehicle was in a car. That's what we're we're determining here. Cuz was this damage here yesterday? >> I've had damage on my vehicle for quite some time. Like I've had a [ __ ] accident. >> not like eight, nine people here right now. You know, we've been hanging out. We've been chilling cuz it's Memorial Day weekend. I'm a combat veteran myself. So, we've been [ __ ] partying. >> Of course. And I'm sure that your your witnesses would be more than willing to vouch for you, correct? >> Witnesses for y'all? >> No, your the people sitting here at your house, right? >> Like who? >> They're just saying that you've been here, right? >> Who Who going to witness for y'all? >> I'm just asking. >> None of none of my people. >> Okay. >> Y'all people not going to witness for y'all. >> I'm not asking them for anything. >> For the future, we not helping [ __ ] that's just trying to hurt us. Like nobody's hurting them. >> nothing If one of them did, you know what? You going to do your own investigation. >> Wait, I have to conduct my traffic investigation because this vehicle was involved in a car crash. Okay? Whether whether or not you guys know who was driving or not, the video shows that this tag and the vehicle were involved in a crash. Okay? Does that make sense? That's why I'm here. >> I hear what you're saying. I mean, I I don't got no hater blockers like you do, but like we hear what you're saying. >> Okay. All right. Well, you guys have a better day. Like I said, I'm going to conduct the rest of my >> having a great day till y'all pulled up. So, I ain't about a better day. Y'all have a better day. Y'all have a better day. >> Like I said, I'm just doing my job. >> Yeah, the [ __ ] y'all worried about, you know what I'm saying? That that y'all letting run [ __ ] Like come on, man. Y'all >> You know what? Somebody could have grabbed it. >> Okay. >> And I could be completely wrong. >> Okay. >> But I just have issues with people >> here accusing you guys of doing. I just want to know who might have been driving the vehicle because the vehicle was clearly involved in a crash. So, I'm not here accusing you guys of driving the vehicle. I have to ask and say, "Hey, were you driving the vehicle?" Right? Cuz that's the point of finding this out. >> Right. >> I don't I'm not accusing you. The point of reading your rights is so that you're aware of them because the the questions may or may not be incriminating. >> you know, from my experience from not myself, but others. >> Of course. >> It's like when you read the rights, you know, you kind of putting it out there like no matter what she says, you know, it could help her, it could hurt her, and you have the opportunity to arrest her at any time. Or myself. Or myself. >> Right. It's It's indifferent when I read your rights. It's not saying that you're going to jail. Contrary to most beliefs, it's not saying you're going to jail. It's simply saying, "Hey, I might be asking you questions that may or may not be incriminating to yourself." That is why we read the Miranda warning so that you are aware of what that is. >> Okay, so very quick question for you, sir. >> If I get asked that by you right here. >> My You're You're asking about your Miranda rights. >> Let's say you read them to me and not her. >> Okay. >> When I get arrested, why do you read them again and and make me sign if this is legit? >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? Okay, so let's say let's say you guys arrest me. Let's say you guys arrest me, right? Or take me in for questioning. >> Okay. >> You read me my rights. You make me sign a piece of paper, correct? >> That is something that the jail would do. Personally, on the deputy level, on the investigative >> at the police station. >> Uh no, we don't do that. We don't do that. We don't do that. We don't do that. We don't do that. We don't do that, sir. Then the investigators will do that. >> So, you're saying that the jail has their own say? >> Jail has their own procedures, and I our investigative division has their own That's why they might make you sign is because they did they weren't here at the time of Miranda being read when I was here. Does that make sense? So, even though the camera shows that you've been read your rights, what they do is they do it a second time to verify that you are fully aware of what your rights are and then you sign a paper. Does that make sense? >> I mean, it sounds like something you would say. Yeah. It does. It does. I mean, it sounds like >> So, like you're seconding that >> I'm not I'm not for real. No, it sounds like something they would say, but if it was legit, why would you have to read it two times? Or maybe >> That's just verifying every single time that you know your rights and you're aware of them. That's just covering our bases. >> That was just for knowledge purposes. >> Saying that you are fully aware of what your rights are at any point in time during questioning. That is why sometimes a detective might do it one or two times every single time they're investigating something or they're looking into something. It depends on who's investigating and who's doing the interview. Okay? That's the point of it. We do it once on our level. I will no longer further Mirandize you on any further questioning today because I have no further questions, okay? >> Mhm. >> Okay. Like I said, I'm not here I'm not here to accuse either one of you driving you both saying you didn't drive the vehicle. Obviously, there's some damage. We need to do some further digging on to see who was driving the vehicle. Does that make sense? Okay? All right, do you have any further questions? Okay. Well, you guys have a better day. Thank you. >> You guys have a better day. >> I Why does that mean she had to be driving? She was not the only person in this house. >> Who was driving? Who else was driving >> She was not the only person in this house, officer. >> Answer the question. Who else was driving? >> Officer, there is other people in this >> I asked you a question. Answer. >> people in this house >> Answer. Who? Who's in the house? >> You know, if you're car leased right now, who's driving your car, officer? >> My car's right there. >> That's a [ __ ] job car. Who's driving your car right now, officer? >> I don't have a car. That's my >> You don't have a car? But you got to rent yourself a car. >> leads to tell me that you, sir, are hiding something because you're being very evasive. >> something? >> Absolutely. >> Uh what am I hiding? >> All right, so here's what's going to happen. Charges are getting forwarded on you cuz you were driving, Okay? I may not have proof of it from the cameras across the street, but you guys lied to us. You No, no, there is no backing out of this. All right? You told us this car did not leave. >> Officer. >> You told us this car did not leave. >> Officer. >> What? >> I said I do not remember this car leaving. Now. >> Okay. >> Who told us? >> Okay. We were cutting grass. We We were doing our job. I to be honest, I never seen it leave. I never seen it come. I never seen it go. I never seen anything. I was with my stepson. We were out here in the grass talking about the grass cutter. You know what? I'm not trying to put myself in it, but you know what? My 16-year-old uh uh stepdaughter who has a permit drives this car. I drive this car. She drives this car. >> So, you're She >> She was illegally driving? >> Who? >> You need an adult. No one got out of the passenger seat. >> I'm not saying she was driving like that also. I'm just saying there's other people that drive this car. That's all I'm saying. >> that. Look, this can be all squashed, okay? All we need is just a little bit of Someone drove this car, and I know it wasn't you. It's a civil matter. It's an accident. It happens. >> Okay, so what are you trying to infer that you need? Like you were sitting there trying to pinpoint and say >> was involved in an accident. We have all of that. >> are you trying to infer right now after everything you sitting there trying to say that this car left? >> Right now, what I'm inferring, someone is lying. >> Officers continued reviewing surveillance footage as Nelson denied being at Walmart. New footage in the SUV's damage soon raised more questions about the family's story. >> I don't drive it. >> I would hope not. >> I don't drive it. >> Well, duh. Obviously. >> Well, duh. Obviously. >> After confirming with the Walmart security that has the video, um they're pulling video right now to see who is inside the store. So, if if that video comes back to show you're in the store, would you have been in the store? Obviously, you were here cuz the camera pulled it that you were in the front yard. So Would it show that you're in the store? Okay. So you got you didn't have any recollection of going to Walmart today. >> No, I did not go to Walmart. >> But I'm explaining the process of a a crash report. Okay? Both drivers get each other's information >> I understand. >> so that insurances can collaborate on what's what's getting fixed. >> We've been down that road before. >> Right. >> Yes. >> So you've been there before. You understand that the insurances handle it >> Every time >> Nothing is criminal at that point. >> something we knew we did. We >> You stick around. >> Absolutely. >> It's a small little bit of paperwork. >> Yep. She has also Yes. >> And you go about your day perfectly fine other than some obviously some damage on your vehicle which is unfortunate. But that's how it goes about. And then it's paperwork and gone and done with for the rest of the day, right? Until the insurances handle it civilly. >> Okay. So >> At this point this vehicle was visually witnessed on a video which pulls your tag, which shows your tag that this vehicle was at the location and did commit this crime. And given that it left, we need to find out who was driving because that is a crime. There's a misdemeanor infraction. >> If they knew that they hit the vehicle >> You it's >> If you don't know you hit it >> Here's the red flag. No, no, here's the red flag though, okay? Going across the street after talking to you guys, you said you're saying you believe it didn't leave that you could recall. >> Okay. >> I get that. But what I'm seeing across the street is you hanging out in the front yard and the >> This is the moment the investigation gets especially interesting. A normal parking lot accident can often be handled through insurance, but leaving the scene after knowingly hitting another vehicle can create criminal consequences. And now investigators aren't just trying to prove that the SUV was there. They're trying to determine whether someone knew exactly what happened and then tried to cover it up. >> It pulls into the driveway. And you're telling us you believe it didn't leave. >> I don't remember that. >> Am I allowed to Can I ask you something? Am I allowed to go talk to you? Can I ask you something? Am I allowed to go talk to your stepson? >> We're not doing no minor talks. >> Oh, okay. All right, no problem. >> I prefer not to. Like because you know what I said, like I said, we've had several offers to come, park around the corner, come here for a welfare check off off uh their their father saying um you know, since we got into where the dirt bike week, he's been doing uh home checks on us. Everything's been good. You know what I'm saying? Everything's been straight. And kids come out, everything's good. You know, so I already had a problem with the way y'all operate because when they walked out last time, the officer said, "Hey, your dad loves you." I'm I'm dad around this [ __ ] okay? So, that's why I came with an attitude. And you know, if I disrespected anybody, you know, especially especially any one of y'all. >> I get it. >> I'm apologize for myself and my family. Like you know, I really don't. I I I really don't want it. And you know, you could not give a [ __ ] You could live >> Well, cuz my mentality is if we swapped positions, let's say. Not you and I, but you and the other party involved. >> Yeah. >> You would be just as concerned and you would want this. We're not here to embarrass your household or your property. We're here for a lawful reason. Your vehicle was involved in an accident. An accident. We call it an accident cuz it was unintentional. But now we're putting your tricks >> You're saying an unintentional accident and you're trying to put blame. >> But you see, you're taking pieces out, okay? Because I asked I asked I asked if I Let me finish. Let me finish. I'm going to say it again. >> Sir, what is your name? >> Okay. That's fine. >> Sergeant Bis. >> We asked did this car leave? You said you don't believe so. You said no. Okay. And I went across the street. I may not see who's driving, but it pulled into the driveway. >> Mhm. >> At 5:46. And you were in the front yard with your son. And you don't want me to talk to your son. >> Why would we want you to talk to our minor son? >> I'm just saying I'm not forcing it. It's just suspicious. >> We had our >> How is that suspicious? Like why are you going to sit there and try to question somebody? >> I already told you my kids have been through enough with the police because of >> Maybe your son could help rule out that you didn't leave. I don't know. >> Officer, you just told us that >> Look, the moral of the story is >> Good evening. How long ago How long ago this uh damage supposedly happened? >> Supposedly it's supposedly happened, Sergeant. >> Yeah. >> It was at least 6 months ago. 6 months? It's been falling out and getting worse cuz initially it was just this. >> Mhm. >> And over time it's >> Mhm. >> more kept falling out. Like this is on its way. >> Yeah, I mean that's already loose. >> Yeah. >> Which why would it be >> We've been holding stuff in. >> Well, you know, we do have a car wash membership and you know, it goes to car wash quite frequently as well. >> Uh-huh. I mean there's tiny little pieces. If you're doing the car wash every day, these tiny little pieces wouldn't be here. >> They've been falling out this for for a while. >> It was more than just this, though. >> And and these are held in. >> wasn't in. Right. >> There's a list. I was just blowing on it and there there was flakes were just coming off, man. See all the little tiny things in there? >> And like I said, I'm >> I'm not making it up, you know? >> I know I know, but you're saying you you know, you're putting certain words like when did this allegedly happen? Or when when are you saying >> that's a fair statement. Cuz I don't know. >> For you it's a fair statement, but it's not fair to us. [clears throat] >> Well, I'm asking you. It's a fair question. >> fair to us. >> Cuz I don't want to accuse you. I just want to, you know. Yeah. >> Right. Like you trying to say like the whole vehicle >> Okay, the whole vehicle, the vehicle, the front, the back, the side like >> You're doing those right now. Like you just in there saying like certain things. >> Like any scratch on it is apparently from this accident. Come on. >> No, the only scratch from the accident is the corner panel and >> Yeah. >> Okay, but yet he was in there talking about certain things. Like how are you going to sit there and assess certain things? >> like the sergeant said, "Allegedly." Yeah, there's no doubt it was in a car crash and >> But how are you going to explain and say it was recently though? Like this is not the same >> has debris. Nope, you don't need to be touching it, okay? >> But no. >> Or somebody already did touch it. I can see where somebody was wiping it off. >> The way you're saying like no, it's been >> see all the broken This is a brand new piece. >> But real quick. >> No. >> See? Look how loose that is. >> That doesn't matter, sir. >> See this is wedged up here. That's a wedge. >> No, but there is no opening the back so this thing don't >> And now the physical evidence is becoming the center of attention. Broken pieces, loose debris, possible fresh damage. Every tiny detail can help investigators build a timeline. But here's the question. Is this genuinely old damage falling apart or evidence from a crash that happened just hours earlier? Because the answer could completely change where this investigation is headed. >> worried about this. She's been worried about I've been worried about her driving like this. >> So, are you are you trying to tell me this did not This vehicle did not go to Walmart today? >> What I'm trying to tell you is that I did not see this vehicle leave. >> Okay. >> The other officer said I seen it pull in when I was with my stepson out here. We were working it, cuz he cut the grass. >> Mhm. >> I Man, you ain't even no bud. >> No, I'm getting up there. >> No, you're not. >> You're not sweaty enough, Mr. Vick. >> sweaty, I believe you. But, >> you know, he's he said it. He seen me do it. But, we were doing the the grass thing, you know, I I'm making sure that he get paid for what he did or not paid for what he didn't do. We was talking about that. I I never seen it pull in or pull out. >> Mhm. >> At that time, there was several other people in the house. There was >> Neighbors, friends like in the last Memorial Day. So, >> but there was several neighbors here that have had permission to move our vehicle to take our vehicle to maybe get more drinks or maybe get >> Sure, yeah. >> Whatever. Yeah. >> Hot dogs. >> Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like we just celebrating Memorial Day, cuz this >> It's Memorial Day. >> my holiday, but it's people who I lost when I was over there. This is This is our holiday. >> Right. >> I celebrate it for them, cuz they can't. >> Mhm. >> I'm sure you understand. >> Did you mean it? Yeah. Yeah. >> Sir, do you mind, sir? >> Sure. All right. >> Just hang tight. >> We'll finish this Well, yeah, we'll finish this in a >> Um yesterday I went yesterday. >> You went yesterday or today? >> I got crowned. Okay. All right. Sir, do you mind stepping back here with Mr. Pretty? David Pretty. I need you to come back here with >> The garage. >> Let's talk over there. >> All right. >> All right. Push your hands behind your back. >> You've been placed under arrest. You've been placed under arrest. >> Okay, I got to step over here. It's my [ __ ] house. >> Okay. Got her. >> [snorts] >> Can you give him my Can you give him my keys? Your vehicle keys? Or your house keys? So, that's the vehicle keys. >> I Yes, I unlocked my vehicle to get that >> Here, listen to this. This is my car key. Give it to my husband. >> anything that you want to come with you? >> I have nothing. >> Okay. Do you have a gun? >> No, man. >> Now now we Now we got paperwork to do. >> It's a public roadway. I don't have to leave. >> Okay. All right. Well, I'm on a public street, too. So, what? I I'm I'm on a public street, too. >> So, what's up? You told us to leave. We're simply educating you as a public >> So, you didn't leave. >> I didn't leave. So, what the [ __ ] we going to do? A standoff? A draw? >> That's why it took so long. >> All right. All right. >> Okay, so let's >> Let's go wrap this up. >> I'm going to Yeah, I'm going to