Why not? Why not? Nice. So, did you just buy that? So, you had to buy the bearded dragon, but it's declining here? Interesting. You're not Were you about to say you don't know? Okay, that's fine. On September 6th, 2025, Officer Cameron responded to a credit card fraud complaint that would reveal a sophisticated pattern of identity theft and retail deception. [music] Under Terry versus Ohio, police may conduct investigative detention based on reasonable suspicion. Here, that suspicion [music] developed rapidly. You guys call? Yes. Okay, so what seems to be the problem? So, she came in for service and we done it. When we go ahead and pay, she had two different card Mhm. and she claimed she couldn't work. I go look for her mom shopping and I I just follow her keep a little distance Mhm. She just walk all the way over there and ask her where she where her mom shopping at. She just like, "Well, I just bought a puppy there." Okay. All right. Yeah, my cards aren't going through and my mother just left. Okay, so can you call your mother over here? Uh I don't have my my phone. It's dead. Where's your mother shopping at? Uh she really left. She was We were shopping over here. Literally a from where do Uh How were you planning on contacting her if she just let left? I don't know, but I don't know what to do. Okay. You have your ID on you? No. Don't? You have nothing at all? No, ain't problem. Can I get your name? It's Leona. Spell it? L E L N A L E L N A? Yeah, and And do you know the reason why your cards are declining at all? No. No? Okay. What is your mother's name? Huh? What's your mother's name? Is she anywhere in any one of these stores you hope? >> not here anymore. She left me. She's mad at me, so Mad at you for what? Huh? Mad at you for what? We just had an argument. Okay. Did she take your phone with Did she take your phone with you with her? Well, she probably that's probably where my cards are. She has asked What is in the box? I just bought a bearded dragon. Nice. So, did you just buy that? Yep. So, you had to buy the bearded dragon, but it's declining here? Interesting. All right, well, just sit tight real quick. Do you know your mom's phone number? No. Not by heart? Not by heart. You don't know your mom's phone number? What about your phone number? If she has your If she has your phone, you know. It's 832. What's mom's name? Yeah, what is mom's name? Uh Lauren. You don't know your mom's name? What's What's your mom Lauren? Yeah. Thank you. I was going to say who? I didn't hear you say it. Well, I'm going to call it real quick. Hey, it's Cameron. Can you put me through to that number, please? Do you Does your phone have service? Does your phone Does your phone have service? No, I'm aware you don't have your phone. Does it have service? Like Can you call people from it? What is the point of me calling then? So, you Your phone doesn't have service at all and you can't call from it? So, even if you did Uh so, even if you did have your phone, wouldn't matter at all. What card did you use to pay for your nails? Uh well, I was with my mom and then we bought this and then Do you have the cards on you still? No. No? Uh-uh. Where are the cards at? With my mom. So Is your mom in the store? You gave her them cards. Yeah. Yeah, I handed her card and it's not going through, so Yeah, where are those two cards at? Do you have them on you? They're in my bag. Can I see them? No. Okay, that's fine. No, not a problem at all. I got to wait for him. What were the The employee's complaint, combined with the subject's contradictory [music] statements about her mother's location and multiple card declines, established the foundation for detention. The critical contradiction emerged when the subject claimed financial inability while simultaneously possessing a recently purchased bearded dragon. This suggested selective fraud. Cards worked for desired [music] purchases, but conveniently failed for services she intended to steal. Under Illinois versus Gates, probable cause requires totality of circumstances. [music] Each false identity added to that totality. The subject provided four [music] distinct names, Leona to the officer, Luciana Thornton for the salon account, and possessed cards [music] bearing Haley and Rihanna. Possession of multiple credit cards in different names [music] creates strong inference of criminal intent under most state fraud statutes. The subject's statement, "I'm the [ __ ] queen. I don't need to pay for anything," established mens rea, the criminal mental state required for conviction. This wasn't inability to pay, but willful [music] refusal based on entitlement. That distinction is legally significant for proving [music] theft of services. Officer Cameron's interview technique was textbook. Open-ended questions [music] allowed the subject to create contradictions without confrontational pressure. You said the name was what in the park? Leona. 54. I don't know if you caught that or not, but the two cards that she tried didn't have her name on them. Why are the two cards that you have not have your name on them? Oh, they're on sisters. Your sisters? And where is your sister at? With my mom. Does she live near? No, not really. What is not really? You're not helping yourself here. That's That's Okay, that's still in the proximity. Do you have her phone number? No. I'm trying to help you out here, so I'd like a little more cooperation. For what? You don't have to. If you can get someone to come and pay for it. >> fine. I'm not going to have anyone pay for my stuff. I can't pay for it. I don't Well, if you You want my bearded dragon? Yeah, we're not getting it. >> 26. All right, so You don't have your sister's number. Do you have anybody else that you can call? No. No? Are you going to be able to hold my bearded dragon? No, we're not taking the bearded dragon. I can't take my bearded dragon? No. So, I'm trying to see the cards that you have and see why they're declining. That's my question. If your mom has access to the cards Go where? To jail. Okay. For what? Because it's not going going through. I can't pay for it, so I'll go to jail. I don't [ __ ] care. All right. Ma'am, listen. She's talking to him. Quiet. So, she's in possible possession of a stolen credit card. Do you think that you have reason to search for that and stuff? Yeah. Ma'am, let's not do all that. All right, ma'am. If you don't mind, I'd like to search your bag so I can see for the cards. Do you have any weapons or anything in there besides the cards? No. No? Okay. Do you have anything on you? At all? Do you have anything on you? No. Okay. And you said the cards belong to your sister. What's your sister's name? Uh not a problem at all. Where do you keep the cards? Directly in the bag? It's a lot of stuff. What are all the What's all this right here? Beads. Yeah, I get that, but why do they still have the tags and everything on them? Okay. Because I bought them. Okay, did you buy them today? No. When did you buy them? Anyway, I'm not speaking to you. I wasn't speaking to Okay. Still just trying to help you out. So, where are the cards at? Cuz they're not in your bag. Thank you. Not in this bag. Play soccer? Volleyball? No? Yeah. Did you see where the two cards Did you give the cards back to her? No, she put them in my bag. So, I don't know. So, she did give it back to you. That's Which trash did you possibly see her throwing it? All the way over there? Okay. You want to show me? Yes. So, did you plan on paying for the nails? No. You didn't plan on paying for the nails? No? >> at all. Why not? Because I'm the [ __ ] queen and I don't need to pay for anything. So, you didn't plan on paying for the nails at all? I have to let go right now, actually. Like, have a great day, Leona. For what? >> Nice seeing you. Have a good >> Well, you just you just got service done. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's we wouldn't have gotten caught if the whole card went through. >> like, oh, hey. You got it, you can Right. Yeah, everything should be paid for. I shouldn't even have to say anything. I walk in, I get it paid for. What did you get the bearded dragon for? Uh my spirit Your spirit? Yeah. So, for some reason your name isn't coming back. Are you giving me a fake name? No, it's my name. And it's spelled l e l e n a, just like that? Yeah. And you're sure you don't have a middle name? Sure. Okay. Well, I'm new to this situation, so let me let me get your name and date of birth, though. What's your first name? Leona. Spell it for me. l e o n a. l e o n a? Yes. What's your middle initial? Uh I don't have a middle name. That's my name. And where have you had IDs out of? Texas. Just Texas? Yeah. Never Florida? No. Nowhere else? Okay. So, I'm going [snorts] to be honest with you, if he's already ran you and there's nothing coming back and I run you and there's nothing coming back, you possibly have the risk of giving false identification to a LEO. Okay, well, my first name is Leona, you can my first name is Irene, but I changed it, so Okay, so how do you spell your first name, then? i r e n e. i r e n e? Yeah. And you're sure you don't have a middle name? It's Leona. So, Irene Leona. You know, I mean, I did have you spell it twice and you didn't come up with Leona. Yeah, well, that's my name. I go by Leona. Everyone knows my name. Literally [ __ ] everyone. I don't know your name. I don't know who you are. You know my name. My name everyone knows my name. Really? Yeah. I've never seen you in my life, that's why I'm All right, ma'am. Do me a favor. Go ahead and stand up and put your hands behind your back. Alarm. Come on, this one. You can't take my bearded dragon? Oh, we'll worry about your bearded dragon in a little bit. Can I get my stuff, too? Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. All right, you have the right to remain Arizona. Custodial interrogation requires rights advisement. >> [music] >> The officer properly administered warnings before post-arrest questioning. Critically, the subject's [music] incriminating statements occurred before Miranda attached, making them fully admissible [music] at trial. The search of the subject's belongings was lawful under United States versus Robinson. Search incident [music] to arrest requires no additional justification beyond the arrest itself. The inventory revealed multiple fraudulent [music] instruments, each representing separate criminal counts under credit card fraud statutes. All right, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to have an attorney with you prior to, during, or after any questions. If you cannot afford an attorney and desire one, the court will appoint one for you. You may stop the questions at any time by refusing to answer further or requesting consult your attorney. With that in mind will you answer any of my questions? No. Okay. It's not a problem. Okay. So, she will be going to jail cuz she did confess to me that she was not going to tend to pay for it. She was going to walk in and walk out. That's all she said to me, though. And we'll go from there. I'm going to be doing the report for it. As well as taking her to jail for it. As for the money we shall see. I'll give you a case card number and you can go through with that situation with seeing the report if you want to do what you need to do as civilian-wise. Yeah. But, she will be going to jail today, okay? I don't think I can get the money back, anyway. Yeah. The thing I'm worried is like it looks like she's a theft like credit card fraud or something and Yeah, so we're going to go we're finding looking at the cards that she's I don't worry about. I wanted to report her. I had a great trust in so you can investigate for her. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. And that's what we're currently working on, so we shall go from there. She does have a lot of items. 6309 6309 >> this one. And that is not in her name. They're both in two separate names. Yeah, they are. So, using a card to make a purchase fraud. She told you that they were her were her sisters, but she wouldn't give you her sister's name. Yeah, she gave me Leona. No. Yeah, I heard I heard him. She was at Walmart County. Yeah, she was at Walmart County. I called this morning, they called saying that it came Irene. She just gave me that first name that you took from her. She didn't give me that first. Yeah, but we already have her on that. Um that's all Walmart stuff. I texted Jeff to see if He's missing >> Yeah, yeah, he didn't respond back to me. Um the red debit card is what she used to pay for the bearded dragon. That's not in her name. And the first card she gave me, the red credit card, had Kaylee name on it. So, I was like, okay, I charged it and it turned like suspected fraud. Okay. She gave me another one, a Discover card, and it said declined, but the Discover card has a different name on it. Okay, but she she told you that her name was Kaylee when you asked what it was, but she had signed in under a different name? Yes. Unfortunately, it's very cute. I would love to stay for him, but this is my game, so we have to return it. I feel bad for the little fellow. Was she acting weird or anything like that towards you guys or She was out of it. Plus, she came in without pants at one point. Oh. Do you have that on camera? That I don't, unfortunately. Like completely like without any pants on? She The girls in grooming said she had like a white micro bikini on one. I said all I saw was cheeks. Yeah. What time did she come in here for that? I'm sorry. She was in at about 1:00 and then she bought that beauty right around 5:00. 5:00. So, she's came in at 1:00 and 5:00. Yeah. She had like a soccer ball on in her bag, too, I bet. Yep. Did she have to tell you what her name was? Actually yes, we created an account for her. What what account? How did what did she what did she put it under? Uh that was just her name and phone number. What name did she use? Leona Thornton. Okay, and then yeah, so she used a stolen card for this one. Yeah, there we go. Sorry about that. >> Perfect. But, yep, right there. Awesome. I had to do it to you the office and push you through the hard way. >> Okay. Well, I greatly appreciate it. Yeah. And what was your name again? Uh Andrew. Andrew, I appreciate it, Andrew. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Always, you know. Thank you. You as well. Officer Cameron receives an A minus. His patient approach maximized evidence collection while maintaining perfect [music] constitutional compliance. The subject receives an F. >> [music] >> Beyond the underlying fraud, her multiple false identities and obstructive statements [music] transformed misdemeanor potential into multiple felonies. The merchant staff receives a B plus. They detected fraud, [music] prevented flight without false imprisonment, and preserved evidence effectively. Key lessons from this case. First, retail fraud [music] investigations require methodical documentation. Every contradiction matters for probable [music] cause development. Second, Miranda timing is crucial. Pre-custody statements [music] are admissible. Patient officers obtain more evidence than confrontational ones. Third, for citizens exercising your right to remain silent [music] is lawful but lying to police compounds charges exponentially. Fourth merchants must balance customer service with fraud [music] prevention. Following at a distance, not physically restraining, avoids false imprisonment [music] liability. Finally, identity theft and credit card fraud carry severe penalties. Possession of multiple cards in others' names [music] demonstrates pattern and sophistication, increasing sentencing exposure. This case illustrates how minor retail fraud escalates through poor decisions. A $54 nail service became [music] multiple felony charges. Let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic you'd like us to discuss [music] in the comments below. Don't forget to check out our second channel for even more police interaction and courtroom content.