okay so there's nothing you guys can do like i can't press any charges against him we can't do anything we can't do anything again for as far as the jewelry goes she's been drugging my kid with xanax dude it's like an allergy medicine to make him go to sleep i watch him get sick and puke and she smacks him like my mom i just i can't be around her she triggers me and makes me like bipolar hi hi buddy where's the boy what's it where's the boy where's the boy where's the boy i don't know hi you must love the police huh he loves the police and firemen firemen are his favorite but hi well firemen are better what is it it's a safer job yeah it's boring dude boy it's actually about a boy oh it doesn't speak very well what's going on um my husband's been having a manic episode for about two weeks now okay and he's not taking his meds and i came home and he stole my jewelry box okay and my jewelry box is gone like all of my sentimental stuff any kind of does he have a drug habit by chance he has in the past but the last three years he's been totally clean i i think he's doing it in spite he's accusing me of sleeping with a neighbor which we've only lived here for about eight months and it's the guy that he talks to over there all the time okay and i've literally only just said hello to this man what's his name and he goes over there and talks to him all the time and he was asking me today if i was having an affair with him and i was like when he said his name i was like i don't even know who you're talking about and then i remember like i remembered and i was like you're being so rude like i've never done anything and he's like you need to pack your stuff and leave and i've been working all day so you think he took your stuff out of spite rather than maybe i i going to pawn it for maybe some street drugs well he does go to pawn things so okay um i just don't know what else to do like i mean that's not his stuff it's mine how long have you guys been married seven years okay so he's never stolen anything from me before the way the law sees it cause it's mutual it's marriage it's mutual property i understand that well here what we can do i don't know how else to get him to stop like he is unlike this manic escapade what's what's he doing he's just just like not being himself or yeah he's screaming he's got delusions to hear his voices he's not taking his medications like he should um does he come home every night for like two or three hours and he sleeps and then he leaves okay so there's nothing you guys can do like i can't press any charges against him we can't do anything we can't do anything again for as far as the jewelry goes here i'm gonna give you the best advice i possibly can okay as far as the jewelry goes because it's mutual property marriage property can't do anything about that but the next time he comes home if you think that he's having some sort of a manic episode they don't take him because he's not being threatening or violent and that's what i was gonna ask next if he's not being threatening or violent they're gonna come they're gonna talk to him and then yeah give your mommy huggies give your mom a hug can can you give your mom a hug do you know how to give hugs i'm sure he does but why i don't know it's so unfair i didn't record it or didn't yes cause that's stuff that's not his it's stuff that i had before i was married i know i know um here if it was a neighbor if it was a cousin or something like that then then we'd be able to do something about that because but because it is marital property we can't do anything about that but we might be able to help him with his manic situation but we have to know where he's at we have a car description right now yeah so here do me a favor if you're worried about his mental status because he's not been taking his medication you said he's not threatening he's not violent which is good and i mean he yells and he screams and stuff but he's not like yes physically tried to do anything or said that he's gonna harm me but it's more of a psychological thing yeah so when he comes home and if he's acting like that your best bet is to call us and we'll we'll come over here we'll talk to him yeah but he won't go anywhere so so but so you've had the medics called on him before this has happened so many times and they never take him unless he agrees or if he does something unsafe yes it's just a nightmare as far as the relationship goes is it is it something you guys are gonna work on or is it something that i don't even know like this time his doctor prescribed him a steroid like two weeks ago and because he was having back problems and we didn't know that that would cause someone to have psychosis or mania that has this disorder okay and it we didn't realize until after he had done taking the six days well there's also what's called an involuntarily commit involuntary committal that you can do as a spouse because you know him better than i don't i don't know who this guy is yeah okay you can also petition the hospital to take him involuntarily okay but that's gonna be based off of what you tell them that's only if he says he's threatening or something right i mean well if if they don't take them even an involuntary they have they won't take them here i don't know where the boy is like the car i wish i had a better answer for you like the car but if if the medics are gonna take him i'm guessing he knows what to say to them yes he manipulates him okay but here if he's having a manic episode and you record him having a manic episode something that he can't explain cause he's just banging his head against the wall or doing whatever then when the medic show up you show that to him okay i have to tell you this is a two party consent state so in order to record him you have to say i'm gonna record you okay just to cover your own rear end thank you baby i like the drive i know do you work right now or are you full time mom no i work all the time i'm the breadwinner okay why in the meantime i can't believe there's nothing that can be done that he stole something from me it's marital property we deal with it all the time even though it's like stuff that i had before we were married still still the same thing once you guys are joined in marriage then it's considered marital property oh god hopefully he's just holding it just for whatever reason i think he's gonna pawn a lot of it cause he doesn't have any money right now oh god most people that do that i'd be more concerned about maybe them dipping more towards street drug drugs again yeah when he was using what was he using cocaine okay well my biggest concern i mean if they if you guys have a look out for his cars are you even gonna pull him over or anything like what what do you do well here he took property he shouldn't be driving so he took he took property that's marital property so i can't do anything for the for the theft okay he didn't strike you or anything like that so it's not a domestic battery so we really don't have it i mean we could do like a we could stop him and check his mental status but we gotta find him first and um i do have his plate he drives a four runner right okay we can look around see if the if our license plate readers are hitting anywhere maybe i'll check does he drink um does he does he hasn't drink in about two years but that he used to drink a lot did he frequent any bars around here um we used to live in lombard and he would go down there i don't know i don't know what he's been doing the last couple days okay i mean i could check the bars in town maybe he's up at caps or mahones or something maybe he's in there he never he never went to caps or mahones no i don't even know he's i don't even know where he would be i wish i had a better answer for you but i can't do anything about the property okay when i could do something is when it becomes um physical or threatening or the young one here you know is in danger but i mean you're not in danger yeah so you might want to consider your options as far as the relationship goes and and i was trying to work with him because he didn't do anything this time to induce it it was like the doctor did it you know the doctor did it with his medication it wasn't his fault you know that he took this medication as the doctor prescribed so i was like trying to work with him and here what time does he usually get home all hours he doesn't have a job he works as a handyman but he's like been doing his own thing but he hasn't okay and he's just like not here ever when he comes home next and he if he's having an episode like i said unfortunately you gotta tell him you gotta record you gotta tell him i'm gonna record you yeah okay if he does something that he can't explain away to the medics the medics might take him okay but other than that there's really nothing the police can do about it okay he hasn't broken any laws i don't want it to go that far either so you say he's never been violent he's never been well he has been violent in the past he's choked me and okay and stuff but like recently that hasn't happened well if that happens again and it's something that's enforceable it's actionable i know but he knows that he he knows it it seems like he knows that and he seems like he knows what to say to the medics so i mean if you were in fear of your of your safety i would say go get an order protection something like that but i mean i tried to do that the other day but they won't give me anything because there hasn't been any because there's no history there's no threatening yeah you you have you have to have a history yeah because they have to be able to you know justify it sau what i'll do there's one pawn shop in town there's actually two pawn shops in town i'll go there now and i'll see if anybody with his name i have his name on the computer it's something hall christopher hall christopher hall it's my whole entire jewelry box okay i'll see if christopher hall has pawned anything okay okay i mean do i have to buy it back though no well like cause it's not i don't know we'll see i don't have the money to do that we'll see let me let me check first okay i think he likes to go to the one that's oh my brain's not working right go on saint charles road saint charles road yeah okay alright i'll run over there and check i think it's sterling yeah sterling night i think that's the one that he likes to go to if he comes home and he's having a manic episode call the police don't even don't even hesitate okay that way at least we can start getting some sort of documentation of of his mental issues okay has you been here eight months we've lived here since july of last year so like almost a year now okay almost a year okay well it's the first i've been here so that's a good thing yeah well he's been fine for about three years it's just recently he's taking a turn just because of this stupid medication it like literally made him psychotic okay all right well you might want to get a hold of his doctor too then i've been calling but because hippo they won't tell me anything okay well you could tell them stuff you could tell them this is what he's acting like i called the psychiatrist i called the doctor that prescribed the medication but they won't call me back okay but you're a spouse so you think they'd have some sort of cuddle cut through for that no they won't they won't tell me anything and they tell me repeatedly that they can't tell me anything i'm gonna go to sterling at night and i'll see if anybody with that name pawn anything and then i'll let you know okay i have your number on the ticket okay alright thank you bye bye on June 11th, 2025 a Villa Park officer responded to a domestic disturbance in Dupage County Illinois the encounter lasted nearly 17 minutes and exposed critical gaps at the intersection of mental health law marital property and domestic violence statute so i'll tell you exactly so we just got a call now that said you grabbed her or something no she just tried to take money out of mine i have no idea what is wrong why she keep calling that's just what she literally just told us so i haven't even been back over there yet but i saw you on the skateboard right so obviously you don't want us to just believe whatever she says right you want us to talk to you yeah um so what what what happened or did anything happen she's been drugging my kid with xanax dude it's like an allergy medicine to make him go to sleep i watch him get sick and puke and she smacks him like my mom i just i can't be around her she triggers me and makes me like bipolar well what happened boy what happened just now like cause we just i mean she just went to my car and started like trying to steal money out of my car i was like what are you doing okay yeah like you need to get out of my car period okay and then what then what happened no i'm just trying to figure it out man i just don't i don't know i've even talked to her she gave me my money i took the money out okay that's it that's it okay um the other officers heading there now to talk to her but i was gonna go talk to both of you guys but i saw you on your skateboard yeah so i'm gonna obviously i have to get your side i can't just believe what somebody else says um yeah so they're gonna go talk to her and we'll get it all sorted out sounds good um what how about how much money what did she grab you have money on you is it just yeah it was like it was like eight dollars or something you try to grab this five and okay yeah try to grab money yeah it was like it was like eight bucks and i you know i don't even know i don't know you what's your first name christopher christopher what's up chris i just don't like i if i don't know who you are it's been like hey sir guy all the time chris yeah um yeah yeah you prefer christopher or chris christopher christopher yeah man i uh like i said i don't know i was just i was happy in the area i stopped by and then as i was she used to call the police when we lived in lombard and i thought maybe when we moved to villa park would be a new start and she wouldn't call the police anymore but it's just like here she goes again well once you get it all sorted out i mean um what was it so i i've said got there at the end what was the issue that would they were just there for oh that was because i made a call to saint charles that she was over at mike faces house it's firefighter okay i'm sleeping with and he's been giving her honey and all that stuff and they've been genecting him up and then having sex i found the you know the the bottle on the sink when i walked into my bathroom so i know that she gave it to him and that sucks man yeah dude like what the f*ck drugging my child smacking my child i meant i meant just the if the i'm gonna say i believe you because i have no reason for you to lie to me just to christopher the like if she's cheating you that sucks yeah she's doing it the whole time dude that sucks you slept with the neighbor you know here yeah across the street from my house like right now this guy there i went to to oregon to visit my grandma and they slept together all right what happened at the house site she just tried to take money i just took it out and that's it the wife asked whether her husband could be charged with theft for removing her jewelry box from the home under the Illinois Marriage and dissolution of Marriage Act property held during a marriage is presumed marital property regardless of who purchased it or when a spouse cannot steal what the law already recognizes as jointly owned no theft charge no criminal remedy correct call by the officer the wife then raised the possibility of involuntary commitment under 4:05 Illinois Compiled Statutes 5 article 3 involuntary admission requires a finding that the individual poses a danger to self or others or is unable to provide for their own basic physical needs manic behavior alone without threat or imminent harm does not clear that bar the officer correctly identified this limitation and advised the wife to call police the next time her husband exhibited symptoms to begin building the documented record that documentation is not administrative it is the evidentiary foundation for any future petition for involuntary commitment or emergency order of Protection on the recording issue Illinois operates under all party consent for private conversations codified at 7 20 Illinois Compiled Statutes 5 section 14 2 the officer correctly advised the wife to announce her intent to record before doing so failure to do so in a private residential setting could expose any recording to suppression and the recorder to criminal liability the wife disclosed a prior history of physical violence including choking under 7:50 Illinois Compiled Statutes 60 Section 2 14 prior acts of domestic violence support a petition for an emergency order of Protection even without a recent incident the court's refusal to grant one here suggests insufficient documentation which loops directly back to the officer's advice every future call builds the record the court needs when the officer located Christopher Hall on a public street the initial contact was a consensual citizen encounter not a detention under burkimer versus McCartney 4 68 United States 4 20 decided in 1984 questioning during a street encounter is non custodial Miranda warnings are not required Hall's admission that he took money from his wife's hand was made voluntarily in public without any coercion visible on camera that admission became the evidentiary cornerstone of the domestic battery arrest that followed the arrest rested on 7:00 20 Illinois Compiled Statutes 5 section 12 3.2 Illinois Domestic Battery the statute has two prongs first causing bodily harm to a family or household member second making physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature with a family or household member no injury is required under the second prom if hall grabbed his wife's hand as she alleged that physical contact alone satisfies the statute his own admission corroborated her account probable cause was established under the totality of circumstances standard from Illinois versus Gates 4 62 United States 2 13 1983 the arrest itself was executed consistent with Graham versus Conner 4 90 United States 3 86 1989 proportionate force larger cuffs substituted double locked comfort verified no excessive force issue arises from the body cam record however one critical failure is documented in this footage when hall alleged that his wife was drugging the child with Xanax and physically striking him that allegation triggered mandatory reporting obligations under 3 25 Illinois Compiled Statutes 5 section 4 the abused and Neglected Child Reporting Act law enforcement is explicitly a mandatory reporter under that statute reasonable cause to believe a child has been abused or neglected requires a report to DCF's not discretion not judgment not delay no DCF's referral no on camera documentation of the allegation and no follow up question directed at the child's welfare is audible in this recording end of story money yeah she tried to grab eight dollars jewelry just eight dollars that's all it was she said it was jewelry no there's no jewelry so much is that gave her back the box okay what about the jewelry that was in the box she said there was jewelry in the car she's lying hundred percent point blank so you grab something out of her hand yeah eight dollars eight dollars yes yes cash that's it okay yeah i mean i just saw him skateboarding so i've said i haven't been over there yet either no no i talked to her okay so he's been over there i talked to her okay here um unfortunately she has a different story she says that she was picking up jewelry and she grabbed her hand okay so that's the circle must be parallel that is yep okay doesn't necessarily have to cause injury but it's insulting it's broken make sure the cuffs aren't too tight for me no we'll check it yeah i've had a 56 show a male cuff my thumb went numb for like almost three years because cuffs are on too tight he's got the bigger cuffs out here so be able to get the bigger cuffs and they're being double locked do you want me to uh do you want me to drop this cable back off at your place do i have you want me to drop it off at your place yeah i'll put it yeah he just put it in my car i'll put it in the garage can i put it she's she's waiting out front that's fine i'll go put it back right anything sharp on me no nothing sharp just the money money little herb hasn't even been open yet is that from the dispensary oh yeah i don't know where you buy that sh*t so so even though even though it didn't it didn't yeah it's alright mark yeah it's okay i get it two orders yeah one for bts and one for i'm gonna put it i'm gonna go put it on the yard somewhere yeah i don't want to say broken or whatever regarding the marijuana found during the search incident to arrest the Cannabis Regulation and Tax Act effective January 1st, 2020 legalized recreational possession in Illinois for adults up to 30 grams the officer correctly declined to treat it as a separate offence no issue there the responding officer receives a B+ legal analysis was accurate across multiple complex areas the arrest was procedurally sound the grade falls short of an a solely because of the failure to document or act on Hall's allegation of child abuse an omission that carries mandatory not discretionary legal weight Christopher Hall receives a C plus cooperation during arrest is credited however hall made self incriminating admissions in a non custodial street setting without invoking his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent his statement provided the officer with probable cause that hall himself could have withheld the wife receives a B she engaged cooperatively and provided actionable information the grade reflects early framing errors on the theft issue and a fragmented approach to the call sequence that complicated the officer's response three takeaways from this encounter first in domestic situations involving marital property documentation not police action is the primary legal tool available to the non offending spouse second every street conversation with law enforcement is potentially non custodial nothing said voluntarily in public prior to formal arrest is protected by Miranda third mandatory reporting laws do not bend to competing priorities on scene when a child abuse allegation is raised the statute requires action not later not contingent now let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic that you would like us to discuss in the comments below thank you for watching and don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more content on police court interactions