He said, "I'm going to I'm going to I felt threatened. See, he pushed me again." >> November 16th, 2024, Downer's Grove, Illinois. Police respond to a call at a Panera Bread where a simple sweatshirt sparked a storm. Alexandra took offense and her outrage ignited a confrontation that spiraled fast. >> Stop. Stop. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. No. I'm going to call the police. >> Call the police. >> Call the police. >> Call the police. >> You're pregnant woman. >> No. >> Get away from my wife. The hell is your problem? >> Can you call the police? What's >> your problem? Okay. >> Can you get away with my >> hell? >> The next day, officers made their way to the suspect home. >> We got contact with the other individuals. >> Hi, Alexandra. >> Hi. >> How's it going? I just got to have a couple of words with you real quick. Okay. Sure. >> Okay. >> So, here's the situation. Yesterday, you had an incident in an air, correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. So, due to that, there are charges for battery that are placed against you. Okay. >> Against me. >> Against you. Okay. I'm going to have to do is I'm going to have to place you under arrest for battery. That being said, I will be more than happy to read your Miranda rights now before I do any other further questioning. Her husband demanded answers. But as police laid out the facts, Alexandra flipped the script, playing the victim, dodging responsibility, and pushing back against every ounce of authority at her doorstep. >> Are you good with discussing this in front of your husband? >> Of course. >> Okay. All right. Okay. >> You're trying to arrest me. >> So, the person that you made contact Did you know what he did to me? >> Watch I watched the video cuz there's videos of it. Okay. >> Right. >> There's videos of it. And then we also have video footage of the female manager who had video recording inside the Panera. Okay. So, per their manager and per the video that we watched. Okay. It shows you as the initial progressor. Okay. >> I didn't do anything. I I I just just he he just just, you know, stepped in front of me and I said, "Well, I I I don't like what you're wearing." >> Okay. We have more than we're we'll be going back to the PD and I will have more than we'll have a further discussion on it. Okay. But if you don't want to speak further, I can read your random rights now and then we can do it again at the PD. If you don't want to give any further statement on it now, that's fine. But >> can you can you say what what actually happened or what the video shows? So, the video shows an altercation between your wife and a male party who is in between his wife who is recording your wife due to her actions that happened at the >> No, her wife was was recording. >> Recording you? Yes. Correct. >> So, so I said stop recording because I'm talking to him. I didn't attack her. I didn't have any I didn't >> Did you attempt Did you attempt to grab the phone? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, she's allowed to record it. It's a public area. It's as much unfortunate as it is, you're allowed to record people at a public area. Okay? You can't be grabbing people's phones. Okay? >> I didn't. >> I understand. Okay. So, again, just for the sake of everything right now, I'm going to read you I'm going to read you your Miranda rightites. >> Okay. After that, we are going to be placing you under arrest for battery. >> Okay. >> What What do you mean? >> We're going to be placing you under arrest for battery. >> What does this mean? >> Okay. So, in the state of Illinois, a battery is anything. >> No, no. What mean arrest? I'm I'm going to go to >> Okay. Transporting. We'll be transporting to the Jonesboro Police Department and we will be booked and processed. Okay. That doesn't mean that you're going to jail, okay? But it does mean that we do have to take you back to the police department. We have to go through the procedures that we have. Okay? And then a state's attorney will decide what happens next. Okay? >> So, just right off the bat, you have the right to remain silent. Okay. Do you understand the rights that I've read to you? >> Yes. >> Okay. Do I just need an acknowledgement on I understand that you're saying it, but do you understand the rights? >> No. I I really I I will in terms just in regards Just regards to this in layman's terms. Okay. You have the right to an attorney. Okay. You do not have to give a statement. Okay. And you have a right to an attorney and that attorney can be present with you when we go back to the police department. >> How do I get attorney? I you know I I never was in in the in the problem with with the law. >> So if you do not have an attorney, >> he you know this guy attacked me and and >> if you don't if you if you do not have an attorney, we can find an attorney for you >> right now. >> If you know of an attorney if you would like. >> Well, does she need one? >> That is up to >> because you started talking and you still didn't tell me what exactly happened. What does the video show? >> The video shows that your wife attempts to take a phone from a female. The husband of that female gets in between them because she does he does not want her to be taking the phone. >> At that point, >> he was between us. He he was all the time. >> And I understand that because he did not want you taking his wife's phone. Okay. >> There was a small tussle because in the video it shows you looking like you're about to throw coffee, >> but I didn't. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay. The coffee was not spilled on that person. Right. However, >> the coffee boot was spilled on me. >> However, however, after you had the tussle with the coffee, you made contact with the left side of his face. You swung at his You swung at his face. >> He He did because he threatened me. Did Did she show you that? He Yes, he he said, "I'm going to you. I'm going to you. I'm going to >> You said several times that you were going to hit him." >> No, I'm going to you. >> Okay. So, again, that's essentially what happened. She made contact with the left side of his face. Okay. >> No, I I want to see that video because I was so nervous that I I I just don't >> And that's fine. You have a right to see that video. I'm just telling you from what we've watched, >> that is what happened. Okay. And the video and the manager of the Panera who reviewed their video footage informed me that you were the one that started the altercation between the two. Okay. So again my main question at this point because I read you your rights I want to make sure that >> you understand here you know just for sake of transparency I have the video this is on social media this is on a app called Reddit okay so I'm going to this is just from the beginning of what they did >> the phone I I I see >> oh my god because he poured Look at me. Wait, what did I see? >> Well, like I said, I'm just showing I'm just showing you you all this just in the sake of full transparency. This is publicly available on multiple social media. >> Great. Great. Let's see what they did. Let people see what they did. So, so he he he started it because he he put on me and and then I said, "Okay, it's not worth it. I'm not going to trouble with some." >> Why would you call that person? because he he threatened me. So So are are she he pushed me again? But do you see that? He kept pushing me. >> I understand. But the problem is is this whole incident was provocated by them alleging that you and pardon my language, but this is what they claim you said that you walked up to them and said Palestine because they had the word Palestine in the back of their jack uh their shirt. That is what provocated this. That's what would make this you the primary aggressor on this. >> Then I say what? Why are you making this political statement? >> I know. But the point the point being is that's what started all >> they can say Jews and I mean we cannot >> I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with that. >> We are not taking any political stance on anything that's happening right now. The only thing that we are here to discuss is the battery that occurred at Panera. >> So you you you see that that he was he was pushing he was pushing me all the time. If he would just just let me go it it it would just be over. So again, >> freedom of speech, right? There is freedom of speech in this country. So, so they can say, I can say, >> and again, I'm not taking anything away from your civil rights. I'm not saying anything against their civil rights. The only thing that we are here to discuss right now is the battery and disorderly conduct that occurred at the murder. Okay? The reason I read you Miranda rights is because if you do, >> are you going to arrest him? That that is my question because he he was he was actually charging at me. I I just said I I I can send what whatever I want. But but he was charging at me and he said, "Yeah, I'm I'm going to you. I'm going to you." I I felt threatened. He he he terrorized. >> So at what time did he say he was going to >> Because if it was during that video >> Oh, she I'm I'm sure she she she got rid of this. I I I was I was wondering if that that's why I So did that occur prior to you pointing at them and saying what you said or did it happen after the fact in between >> after after um you know at at some point we were already you know like like in in this agreement. So, I just, you know, I think he I don't know if it was before or or after he poured the coffee on me, but but but he he threatened me. I I I swear. I mean, it doesn't matter. >> So, again, I just want to clarify cuz I want to make sure that it's for our purposes and for the purposes for >> Did you understand what I explained? >> I did. >> Okay. Can you explain it to her so that way she would understand it? >> Don't say anything anymore. here the rights that you have the right to the attorney and you don't have to say whether you be guilty or not guilty or you don't have to say in okay because they're going to use everything against you >> injustice >> well it is injustice obviously but that's how they do stuff so >> so again I've read you your Miranda rights I will do so again once we get back to the police department okay whatever belongings that you do not want coming with you I suggest you leave with your husband we will then have to place you under arrest and we will be taking you back to the police department >> can I go with her or >> you can go to the PD. You can't go with or in one of our squads, but you're more than welcome to go to the station. >> You would just have to drive there yourself. I can't We can't take you in the squad. Okay. >> Well, I'm going to go after you. >> But unfortunately, at this point right now, she's being detained and eventually going to be arrested. So, she cannot leave where I am. That's my point. >> She can go to the bathroom. That's why I said you guys should go to the house. >> She had a washroom as soon as we get to the station. >> Yes, we have facilities at the station that she is more than welcome to use. Okay. And if she is thirsty, we have water. We'll provide her with water. If she would like a snack, we can provide her with a snack. We're not just going to let her go to the PD and then let her starve and be dehydrated. We're going if she would like water, we can get her water. If she would like something to eat, we can get her a snack to eat. >> So, that's what I was saying. If there's anything that she doesn't want brought there, she can leave it with you and then we will place her under arrest. We'll take her back to the police department and then you can either you can follow us to the police department or you can meet us there. This is This is >> I will I will follow since I can go with you guys. This >> Can I Can I get dressed up? >> Yes, you can. You can get dressed. Unfortunately, your wife has to sit here. I We will wait until you get back. >> Yeah. Why don't you give your husband your purse? I mean, you don't need it. >> I do need it. >> Okay, that's fine. If you want to bring >> If you want to bring it. It's just like I said, it's just if it's extra stuff if you don't want. >> Well, doesn't she need like ID and stuff? Because then you're going to ask for ID and she won't have ID. So then you're going to say like, "Oh, you have already have her identification." But if if if you bring your purse with you, we have to search that entire purse and all its contents. >> So I'm just trying to help with your privacy. >> So if you don't want us to go inside your purse, >> you can bring your wallet and your phone if you want. >> So So they So the people basically copied the license plate. That's how this thing started. I mean, how did they know her name and address and everything and suddenly four cops show up here? >> So we were able to get her information um >> via our computer. >> Okay. But computer is not so smart. Somebody had to input the information in the computer. So I'm asking >> So a third party a third party person informed us of her information. >> Okay. Let me let me >> go ahead and get changes. What should I take? >> Just take take the wallet. Just take your wallet. >> So they won't accuse you that you're walking around without ID. >> Exactly. You guys seem really I mean >> don't say anything. Don't say anything. >> Don't say anything. >> So, ma'am, we do have to put you in handcuffs. Okay, that is our >> We won't we will not put you in the squar car until your husband returns. If that'll make you feel more comfortable, okay, but for for the purposes of this incident >> for the Did you arrest him? I I want to see him arrested for for what he did. I still have coffee on on my I was looking at this. My my hair was wet, but everything was wet. I know, but had you not had you not made the comment that you made >> and kept on going on with it >> because he he he if he wouldn't react, you know, how many people attack me, okay? Because he has silly accent or something. So, I I'm going to go after them. >> I can't make any comment on that, man, cuz I'm not in your shoes. The only thing that we can make comments on are what we know. And if what you're telling me is the truth, that if someone makes fun of your comment, you or your your accent and you don't do anything about it, I applaud you for your restraint. The problem is is in this situation, you were the one who made the initial contact between that couple and yourself by the comment that you made and that devolved the situation into where we're at now. >> I know that you're doing your job, but this is crazy. I thought you so sorry but I look like like like a offender or or something. I I just go after my life people there is there's so much you know wrong going on in the world and the the people who are really attacking others and I I I just because I I made some comment and and uh and he he reacted he actually reacted. Okay. He he he could say I I don't know. He he he go he he he just you know >> because you have been identified as the main aggressor in this situation and you attempting to grab his wife's phone out of his hand or something that she's allowed to do >> and I understand it's frustrating but >> he is she is not I mean because I I knew if if she she's going to probably delete some parts the video where where he was the the you know aggressor >> and if that's if that is the case then that will be the state's attorney's job to figure that out. But off of what we have right now, this is what we have to do. Okay. So, what we're going to do is to make it more comfortable for you, I will cuff you in front. So, it will not be behind your back. It'll be in front. Okay. So, the other officer here will hold on to your property. >> Okay. >> And just put your hands kind of like that. >> Yeah. Okay. >> We have to hold on to it because we've had people call and record with phones in the past. So, we have to put the stuff in the front of the car. Well, so what's wrong if she's recording is if she got recorded at Panera and you're saying it's it's perfectly legal. So it's like double standard now. >> Well, we're actually recording in the car itself. But again, it's just our policy that I'm making the front of the vehicle or the rear of the vehicle, not with the person that's in the vehicle. >> So, I'm not going to go looking through any of this. I'm not going to try to unlock microphone, nothing like that. It's just going to go right into the front seat of my partner. So sit tight real quick cuz I'm going to double lock this so they don't tighten on you when you're sitting inside the vehicle. Okay. >> So you're going to go on the other side of the vehicle here. >> Wow. >> Oh my god. Go ahead and move. >> Where's my phone? >> I have it right here. Right here. >> We will allow you to talk to your daughter as soon as we get to the police department. Okay. >> This is so unjust. >> And just so you know, ma'am, there's a camera on in there. >> Good. I'm not do going to do anything. I'm not a >> camera. >> Where's my phone? >> I'm sorry. >> Okay. Where's my phone? >> So, the other officer has your phone. >> I I I need to >> And when we get to the police department, we will write down any phone numbers you need. >> I need to I need to contact my daughter. I I don't have anyone else here. >> Okay. I will make sure that you are able to contact your daughter. >> She's really sick. She She needs my attention. And I don't want to make her even more feel even worse. You know what? I I never had any anything any I mean I'm just citizen law abiding citizen. I didn't come here to to you know to make some crimes like a lot of people do. My god. I I go after my business and I got I got actually, you know, really harassed just for for this is I'm like, well, where is freedom of speech? You know, that that that's I mean, if he would wouldn't attack me, I I and and his wife was and she was actually taping me. Well, I was trying to take I mean I I can't be, you know, shaken, right? Because he he started attacking me. >> All right, ma'am. What we're going to do is I'm going to get you out. We're going to go through this door. >> Can you open that? >> Oh, yeah. No, I got you here. It's down here. >> Oh, okay. Oh, okay. >> You're okay. >> All right. Do you need any assistance? >> I hope not. >> Alexandra was taken into custody and transported to the Downer's Grove Police Headquarters for processing. There, the consequences hit hard. two felony charges tied to her aggression and another for disorderly conduct. A confrontation she thought she could control, now rewritten in black and white on a charging sheet. How would you have reacted if you were there in the middle of that chaos? 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