I'm in on Wayne's 5 with George David Roberts 2278 GDR 2278. Hello. How we doing? I was daydreaming. Okay. We're not from here. I took her to Family Resource Center for some counseling. Mhm. I was just daydreaming. I'm sorry. Okay. Got you. You have your license on you? No, I don't. I don't have my wallet on me. Okay. You know your social? Yes, sir. Okay. Yeah. Sorry about that. And you're heading where? Um Lee's Chicken. We're not from here. Okay. Where are you guys from originally? Sidney, Ohio. Sidney, okay. Port Jefferson. Okay. What brings you up here then? I took her to the family resource center Okay. for counseling. Okay. Got you. Yeah, I got a million things on my mind, so I'm sorry. Got you. All right. You have your ID on you, ma'am? No, I don't. Do you know your social? Yeah. What was it? Okay. Can I pull over there to be a little safer? Uh we're good right here. Okay. All right. Give me a second. Do you have your uh insurance card on you? Uh no, I don't, but it's Progressive. Okay. Does this vehicle come back to you? Uh no, my wife. Your wife? Jill Davis. Okay. We got Progressive insurance. Insurance. Do you have the proof on you? I'll have her send me a picture. Totally. All right. All right. Give me just a second. I'm going to run this while you you pull that up, all right? 105, can you step out here? Caution. One station. Five still there on 25. Confirm that. 17 here with four. Do you want me to be in route? Yes, I'll be out with four. Okay. Seems he's kind of out of it. He was I'm waiting here for you. Stopped at the stop sign for like good 3 minutes. He's on his phone when I went by. Yeah. Is there a passenger? Yeah. That's what I thought. I don't know. Story was kind of weird. a cracked windshield, looks like, too. Yeah, that's why I stopped him, so. Figured it was worth running. Yeah. Just to see. From Shelby County, maybe? Yeah, or Jefferson. Said bringing her for some kind of counseling or something. So, I don't know. What's his name? Craig Davidson. Yeah. You tell him that yet? No. You want to tell him? I'm I'm going to talk to him. Okay. License your insurance? Yeah, it's not a So, you got All right. You want to step back here for me? All right. When's the last time you smoked? You just Very little. One cigarette in 3 months. All right. You smoked today? No, sir. All right. I'm just wondering cuz you're sitting at the stoplight for a while and I didn't know if that'd be why. What is this, little That's a derringer. That's a derringer. Used to be a backup police gun. Yeah. Yeah, it's registered to me. Here, I'll show you. Do you have a CCW? No, I don't. Concealed carry or anything? You're allowed to have open carry in uh but it can't be concealed in the car, which it was. Is it? Yeah, I couldn't see it. Yeah, you're you're not going to touch it. All right. Look, see that? All right. Is it here? Pull it down. Now, pull it back. Okay. Yeah. It's not an assault. I don't know. It's for protection. Where's the weapon or the ammo at? In the glove box. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That's in no way, no shape, form, or threat. Personal protection. Yeah. Is there any weed in the car? Yes, sir. Okay. Is there anything else in the car you need to know about? No, sir. Okay. Do you have anything on your person that I need to worry about? On my person? Yeah, do you have any drugs, weapons, needles, anything on your person? On person? Like in your pockets? I have a little bit of weed on my person. Okay. Do you have anything on you right now is what I'm asking. In your pockets, any weed? Okay. Any other kind of drugs? I have a little bit of weed. In your pocket? Yes, sir. Okay. But I'm honest. I'm being honest with you. I don't do it all. Okay. Where's Where Where's it at? What pocket? Right here, sir. All right. I'm going to go Yeah, go ahead and just face my car. I'm going to I'm going to get that out. Just if you want, put your hands behind your back real quick. You're not under arrest or anything. I'm going to grab that out here. You guys can have it. Throw it away. I don't care. What's that? I don't care. All right. We're going to get this figured out. I don't What was The fact that it It hidden in between the seat and the console Yeah, my car is a mess. As far as I know, but it was You cannot carry loaded firearms in It's not loaded. It wasn't loaded, but still you can't have it concealed like that. It's not concealed like that. We'll talk about it. But right now you're going to handcuff. I thought you're allowed to have open carry in in a hot without CCW. Right, but in a You're going to change everything. It's not loaded, sir. It's not loaded. We'll talk about that. I I mean, I know the laws for that for that. I wasn't I was I was If you look at my record, I don't break the law. Okay. Where was the ammo to that besides the I put it in the center console. Okay. Hey, what are you messing with him for? He's just being detained right now. Just relax. That's written on it. All right. I don't want to lose any of that. So, I want to make sure. Will you give that to your mom? You're probably going to walk away and drive away from this. You got a life. I yeah, I do. I I promise you. You can look up my record. I don't ever break the law. You know, when we have when we have guns in play, we're not going to mess around. Okay, we want to go home tonight. I know, but I was honest with him. All right. I appreciate that. That's all right. No problem if I check it out? Yeah, go ahead and check it out. Okay. I know. You said the ammo was in the center console, right? In the center console, as far as I know. Sometimes I throw it everywhere. Like, my car is a mess. You get your man. Right here. I'm fine. Yeah. I'm just going to have you come over here, have a seat in my car real quick. Like I said, you're not under arrest, you're just being detained so we can get everything figured out. You're going to go right back here. Okay. Go ahead and take a seat here. Yeah, I only do it like once every 3 months cuz I got to I got to pass a DOT for my job. Okay. Got you. I do it for depression. Depression. Okay. But you don't have a medical marijuana card. No, I don't cuz I'm afraid if I do get one, I won't be able to work where I work at. All right. Where Where do you work at? Fisher Tank Company. Okay. Got you. Mhm. Okay. I got the big storage tanks for oil companies. Okay. And no hemp in the vehicle. No, sir. No. Okay. All right. Well, like I said, based off that we're going to search your vehicle, make sure there's nothing else in it because, like I said, you can't be having the weed. And with the weapon, that that creates concern, too. I understand it's under No, I'm not not accusing you of anything like that. I just want to make sure Well, I have the most most upmost respect for the law, so that's why I was honest with you. Yep. I appreciate it. And I don't break the law. So, once we, like I said, we check, make sure there's nothing else in there, we'll we'll we'll we'll go from there. All right. Hey, real quick. Did you check this side yet? There's some more weed. Weed, too. Okay. There's an empty one box of Uh Parker said that that ammo's in the door. Yeah, I got two rounds here. they're both within reach, Yeah. That's definitely improper handling. I'll get a picture of that here in a second. I'm just going to make sure there's nothing else in here. He said there might be some ammo in the center console. I don't see anything. Nothing? I think this car is a mess. I think there's only two rounds. It wouldn't surprise me if there's more in there. Did that. I don't know if there's more than one. I think he unloaded that when he stopped. No. Did you run her? Yeah. What's her name? Mali or something? I didn't ask his name or anything. You don't know her name? I I didn't I can't remember what it was. License valid, she's suspended. Um I don't see anything else. He's got a bunch of money in his pocket. I saw that. All right. I'll get a camera quick to take a picture of where it was. Where was the The gun? It was right here between the console and the seat. Couldn't see it at all. Okay. Yeah. Do you see that bag just fly off here? Wind blow it off? Yep. No. You want to witness me count this? Did you see I think that bag flew off here? What's that? That bag with the weed I think flew off. Flew off? I don't know where the heck it went. Did you put it inside? Uh-huh, I set it up here and it blew away. I don't know where that went. Where it went. Okay. No. There's two rounds in the door. Yeah, that's what I was saying. He He had it in his pocket when you stopped him. He took it out before you got He took it out of the gun? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 20 40 60 80 100 20 140 240 340 No gloves. 440 5 Oh. 540 and then 640. I will put that. Okay, we're not taking this in. Here, put this in your car. There. Where did that blow to? Yeah. What's that? I'm I'm not arguing with you or anything, but you didn't ask me to answer any questions. Right, you have to tell me that. It's your responsibility. I was waiting for you to ask me the question cuz I know I didn't by law that I didn't have to tell you anything. Here's the thing, if you're concealing a firearm, you have to tell me. It's not concealed though. It wasn't concealed, sir. It was in your pocket or tucked right there. I didn't see it. That's concealed. It's not loaded though. Concealed is loaded. All right, like I said, I concealed it. The ammo's right there, in arm's reach. That's the issue. I read up the laws and I have the utmost respect for the laws, so I'm not a lawbreaker. You can run my social security number, look I'm not saying you're a bad man. I don't think you're a bad guy at all. I've never met you before. I just can't afford to go to jail and you can keep that gun and donate it to the police department. I don't care. Well, like I said, this is what I'm telling you, man. If you're transporting a gun and you don't have a CCW, you need to have the gun in one compartment and the ammo in a completely separate compartment. a compartment? So, you can't access it. With you sitting there and the gun was right here and the ammo was right there, that's as good as a loaded gun. You got to understand that. Yeah, but I can't I can't afford You can have the gun. And I didn't know that. I thought as long as it wasn't what loaded that you're legally allowed to carry. No, you got to have the ammo in a completely not at not so you can have access to it. And like I said, I'm not convinced. I think you unloaded it, man, to be honest with you. I did not unload it. I did not. Okay. I had the bullets in one pocket and the gun in it cuz I know it can't be concealed. All right. I know that. Okay. And when I came up there, you threw the put the bullets in No, I tried to set it in the the gun in the console. All right. But I just threw it down on the ground. Okay. But I didn't have to tell you none of that. Yeah. No, I agree. I know I know the law. you being honest with us about it. I figured honesty would be the best policy so you'd let me go. All right. But you can keep the gun and keep that crap. All right. Well, like I said, once we're I only finish searching here, we're going we're going to figure out what's her relation to you. That's my daughter. I brought her up here for counseling. Okay. I just wanted to I didn't know the relation. She's going through some severe depression and I brought her up here for counseling. That's all the reason why I'm up here. Well, that's the best thing you can do. And then we was going to go to Lee's, get something to eat. I got a million things on my mind. I don't know why. Okay. I just said there I have a million things on my mind. Okay. All right. Well, you got to understand, man, that's that's going to be the issue with the gun. That's no joke. You got to make sure you're doing that properly. Especially having got on you, too, man. But I can't I mean I got to go to jail. I've never been to jail. I get you. I get you. And my family needs me right now. All right. I understand. And I'm not She doesn't have a driver's license. All right. So, we're we're going to get this figured out and we're going to go from there, okay? So You can keep the gun. Don't let it to the police. I Like I said, we're not we're not trying to do that here. It's probably worth It's probably worth $400. You can have it. I'm going to talk with these guys real quick and we'll figure out where we're going from here with everything, all right? So, I'm going to get a picture quick and then uh take your wallet and property. the vehicle over Leave that parked here. All right. You move the ammo. I love you. All right. Nope. We need to take it. What's that? Take the ammo. Take the ammo. Hey, I'm just going to leave. Are you done? I'm going to get a quick picture here. Almost. I'll take them. Okay. That way you can do your stuff. You want me to write them up for weed first? Yeah, go ahead. All right, I'll get one of those quick knocked out. Let me get the picture. Real fast is. Come on. All right. Tell me what you want. I told him I'd figure out what we're doing. Hey, could you loosen these up a little bit, please? Are they too tight or I was going to say, I checked them. We can get that figured out here in a second, but I don't want to let you know what's going on. Based off of this, you're going to have to go to jail for improper handling of the firearm, okay? All right. I'm also going to be giving you a marijuana misdemeanor citation for the weed, all right? That's just going to be a regular ticket. As far as the improper handling, you're going to have to go before a judge, get bonded out on that, okay? You have any questions on that? Here, if you can adjust it, I'll I'll make get out? Yeah. Won't you just step out? You want to put him in your car? Yeah, I'm going to have you sit in my car. let me make get these as loose as we can for you. I thought honesty was the best policy. Well, it's a little serious. It's how people get shot. You look at my record, it's not. I know, but Let's go Let's get stuff over here. I'm no threat at all. Seems like you made them tighter. I'll I'll fix it. Hey, he wants her to have the money, so. Okay. The money is Is that it? Yes. And his phone? Yeah, whatever he wants to release to her. that you need, right? Nope. All the everything's in that one. 4 station, what's my time of stop? Time of stop was 12:13, 12:13. You going to stay with the car? Uh, where are the Did you leave the keys in the car? No, they're in the seat. I don't know where they're at. I don't know what you want. Sorry this happened. It's all right. I didn't know it was illegal to carry a gun as long as it wasn't loaded. All right, man. I didn't know it had to be in a separate compartment. What's a good phone number for you? Okay. Okay. All right, so this is just going to be for possession of the marijuana, all right? I'm not going to have you sign it cuz you're already handcuffed. Uh court date's going to be next Wednesday for this. Cuz you really did They should be able to Can you just give me a gun charge, please? Like I said, I got to issue this one. I got a reputation at both of them. I could lose my job over it. I will again based on what we have, man, I got to give you this. All right, I was honest with you, sir. I understand. I I get it, man. But this is what we're doing. I I understand you don't like it, but unfortunately guys can keep the gun and donate it to the police department. Well, we're we're not going to do that. And then this is also just a written warning. The reason I stopped you, you got a cracked front plate and impeding traffic, but I just wrote you for an unsafe motor vehicle for the cracked windshield. All right, I'm going to put both of these are your copies. They're going to go with your property and then he's going to transport you. All right? Yeah. And then we'll get Well, we're going to do the musical cars again. That way you can just sign and do it all. Okay. It'll just be easier. Okay. Since you're going to have to get him up there. You have his bag? Uh property? No, I didn't I didn't You You left it in my car. Okay. Okay. She took the whole bag of property? I assume Brian gave it to her. I'm going to make sure that's the gun. With the phone? No, I'm the gun. her to have the phone Right. And that's all in here. Okay. So if she she took everything, this is his only only property then. six BASF, helping you do the biggest job on Earth. IHeartRadio's Twas the Night Before Christmas podcast is here just in the Saint Nick of time and in immersive 3D audio. Stop. He's on his phone when I went by. Is there a passenger? That's what I thought. He's got a cracked windshield looks like, too. From Shelby County, maybe? 75 You tell him that yet? I'll go talk to him. You got anything in your vehicle that you shouldn't have? Like what? Like drugs, weapons, knives, anything crazy like that. Okay. You have a medical card or anything? No, I don't. I did it for depression. Okay, that's that's fine. He's going to run his canine around. Keep your hands in. Okay? Well, he's going to smell the pot. I'll give it to him. That's Okay. Well, where is it at in your pocket? Yes, sir. Just let him do the dog work and then just marijuana. Anything other than marijuana though? The dog won't The dog won't indicate just on marijuana, I don't think. So. Is there anything else in here? I have a gun which is registered. Okay, where is it at? In my down here. Okay, is it loaded or anything? All right, where is it Is it exactly without you reaching for Right here. Okay. Won't you step out real quick and then I'll have you sit back in here. Sorry, drain you can see it's a mess. So, just stand right there, okay? Did you do this? Is this it here? Yes, sir. What is this little .22? That's a Derringer. It used to be a police gun. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. It's registered. Here, I'll show you. Do you have a CCW? No, I don't. A concealed carry or anything? Here's my license open carry and uh but it can't be concealed Oh, you're you're not No. All right, look. See that? Turn it. This here? Pull it down. Now pull it back. Okay. Yeah. It's not an assault and it's for personal use. Where's the weapon or the ammo? In the glove box. Okay. Yeah. That's no way, no shape, form, or fashion for personal protection. Okay. There ain't no weed in the car. Come back here. Just stand back here. I've been on the news before. Come on. You're going to have to do it from up here, though. You can record this all you want because you're getting recorded as well. Just stand right there. What's that? I don't do it all the time. What? Marijuana? Yeah. That's no big deal. I don't even have it on me. That's a minor misdemeanor. That's no big deal. Well, that's why you can take it. You have a CCH? That's her at all. That's her stuff. It wasn't loaded but it's still you can't have it concealed like that. Where's the ammo to it at in the glove box you said? Up in the front console. Okay. Being detained right now, just relax. That's rent on my car. I don't want to lose it. Will you give that to your mom? Walk away and drive away. I got to do I I promise Listen dude, when we have when we have guns in play, we're not going to mess around. I know but I was honest with Okay. Anything else in your vehicle that you I'll check it out. You okay with that? Yeah, go ahead and check it out. Okay. And the you said the ammo's in the center console area? In the center console. It's right now. Okay. Sometimes I throw it everywhere. Okay. My car is a mess. Chasing units, check out. We're fine. Thank you. I don't know. That's what I was looking for. No. I asked him if there's anything in his car that shouldn't be, weapons, guns, knives. He's like, uh I got weed in my pocket. There's a There's a gun right here. Yeah. The ammo is in the door. Dude, he just dumped these when he got out. Here's some more weed, too. It was in the glove box. Uh Parker said that all that ammo is in the door. Yeah, I got two right here. I mean, they're When they're both within reach, Yeah. that's definitely improper handling. I'll get a picture of that here in a second. I'm just going to make sure there's nothing else in He said there may be some ammo in the center console. I don't see anything. And this car is a mess. I think those are the only two rounds in It wouldn't surprise me if those weren't in there. He did that. You could have loaded that when you stopped. Yeah. What's your name, Malley or something? There's a message in the car in here. You don't know where it He thinks that it's his vehicle. bunch of money in his pocket. I saw that. Yes, the gun was right here between the console and the seat. You couldn't see it at all. I had to reach in and look. Yeah, I know. It's not worth it. not. Yeah. Did you see that bag with the weed blow off there? What's that? That bag with the weed I think blew off. Blew off? I don't know where the heck it went. You didn't put it inside? Uh-uh, I set it up here and it blew away. It probably went that way then. it went. No. There's two rounds in the Yeah, that's why I wanted to He He had it in his pocket. When you saw him, he took it out before you got him. He took it out of the gun? Out of his pocket. 140 240 140 240 340 gloves 440 5 Oh. 540 640 640 Yeah. that Here, put this in your car. There. Where did that blow to? It was in front of the car. You need anything? No. I just started. Mhm? I think he needs to He had the ammo in his pocket. gun in his right front pocket and ammo in his left pocket. Oh, he had it in his pocket? Yeah. Yeah. He needs to go. For sure. Yeah, cuz he didn't he told me he had it in between the seat. Yeah. And the ammo was it out when he was getting stopped. Yeah. Yeah, he's got to go. That's how people get shot and killed. What's in here? Yeah. solder Isn't it? He soldered everything down. This is a two Like to exchange that too much. And what? I need more ammo, okay. 10 minutes turn out. Well, okay. It's gross. It's just like dried spilled milk and I think we're good. Yeah, he he didn't have any on him, did he? He didn't have any. That's what I figured, the way it was sitting in there. So, I'm going to get a picture quick. Definitely. It needs to be moved a little. What's that? Yeah, oh yeah. Hey, I'm just going to Are you done? Yeah, almost. I'll take it. Okay. I'll get your stuff. Do you want me to write them up? Hey, go ahead. I'll get one of those for you right now. Hey, go ahead. He's going to write them up and then I'll almost cut it. I don't know if he told me he's going to So, figure out what we're doing. We can get that figured out here in a second, but I want to let you know what's going on. Based off of this good job for the department. I'll be giving you whatever you want. Everything You can just get out. Won't you just step out? Cuz I'm Yeah, we'll I'mma have you sit in my car, okay? I thought honestly it was the best policy. Well, it's a little serious. Some people get I'm just stuck over here. I'm no at all. It seems like you made them tighter. I'll call fix them for you. Let's go over here. We're going to go in the back of this one. You'll have more room in mine, too. Just face the door and I'll Are they both tight? Yeah. I promise you We appreciate it. Just Honestly it was the best policy. It is, but But I didn't have to give you As soon as she said you had marijuana with that I didn't even tell you that. I thought I'd be honest. Pretty much. Is that good? That feel better? The left one hurts. Well, it's I mean I can't That's super loose. I can fit I mean that's right. I got fat fingers and I can fit two fingers in there. It's right on that bone, though. Well, I mean you just have to You just have to rotate it. I mean I can't Oh, I like toughness, but I don't want to hurt you. If she I Hey, I ain't going to put up no fight with you. You know what I'm saying? I have respect for the law. Good? I'll talk to him real quick. Do you want to see photo on? Uh you don't have to if you don't want going to drive, dude. I'm all right. What do you want me to do? Do you want to wait for a oral argument for the judge? And he was saying that you will appear before the judge today or do you want us to go with you all? oral argument. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I don't want to get in trouble all the time. I don't know. I don't know what to do. My money is on the prepaid card. That's all I got. That money is rent money. I'm going to tell your mom to take that money and pay your rent. Do you have her number to call her? Have his stuff. What stuff? His phone and his money. Yeah, it's up here. I'll get it to I'll give you that out here in a second. Yes, sir. That's my personal Okay. and my wife's got to have the house. So, you want her to have all the money? Yeah, I told her that's what I was going to Hey, she He wants her to have the money, so Is that it? Yes. And his phone? Yeah, whatever. So, no nothing in here that you need, right? No. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS HIS MY WALLET WHAT IS THAT? I HAD IT IN MY POCKET. There's over there working on the house and then there's a bunch of damn tweakers walking around the house, so I had it in my pocket. I'll renovate the house. with 12-13. 12-13. I understand. Get your CCW and you'll be good. disqualified. I'm not I I don't I don't have no fail on me or nothing. Get your CCW. It's easy. Well, you have announced too late now. I'm not going to get this charge. Yeah. Still good. The weed don't look good at all. Oh, it's just a misdemeanor. They passed a law in 2019. Here's this. It's only a certain amount. I'll I'll take the gun charge, but can you The weed is just a misdemeanor. Can you just drop the damn weed? Cuz they ain't hardly [ __ ] there. I'll take I'll take the gun I'm supposed to have. I'll take the gun charge, right? I understand, but that's just the way it turned out in the end. I don't want that on his record. Can you just I don't want it on my record, sir. I'm hoping somebody can get you. So, she's going to get you out. I just verified So, he's going to get the gun charge and she's going to get the misdemeanor. Can you just drop that? That's He's already got written. That's his call. So. Well, can you talk to him, sir? Cuz I've been honest with you guys. I know. I understand. And all of a sudden, she's talking Well, I'll I'll take the ticket for it. It's mine. No, you can't do that. It's a felony. What do you want to do do do? Do you want to get bailed out? How much is it supposed to get bailed out? It would depend. I'm going to figure it all out. It's going to be $509. I don't know what to do. I'll figure it Don't use that name. Yeah, they're on the seat. You might want to grab them. Are you going to stay with the car? I love you, honey. I'm sorry. I didn't know it was Yeah. Actually, you know what? He should just go over and then sign and everything. Let's just do that. I'll have him do it. Yeah, that's easier. I was thinking trying to save him time, but Well, we're going to do musical cars again. That way you can just sign and do it all. Okay. It'll just be easier. Okay. Since you're going to have to go talk to prosecutor anyway. No, I didn't I didn't get it yet. All right, we're going to play musical cars one more time. So, I apologize for it, but it's just going to work out easier for him. I was going to try and save her my time. We're just going to go back in this car where we were. It In the long run, it probably take more time doing it. Yeah, just have a seat here. Good? Do you want your cell phone? Well, I won't be allowed to have it. allowed You'll You'll be allowed to use it when you when you're done. They'll let you use it. Well, yes, if I'm allowed to use it. You want to take it? If I'm allowed to use it. Okay. I don't know. Well, she's probably going to get a hold of her mom, so if you got any to let me have it when you call me. You want it or not? Yes or no? I don't want it. Okay. All right, he's good to go. Your daughter has a question for you. Yeah. Where's the credit card? There's just cash and just cash and credit card. My wallet's My wallet's at home. Which credit card is Does mom know which card it is? There's a Discover card and there's a Capital One card. You got Cash. So, I have to But, if I got to sit in the Jail. with me. No. You got to get out and get a lawyer. You want me to call somebody in the morning? No. I said I'll give them a call. Unless you don't want me to. Yeah, go ahead. Credit card for the lawyer and all that jazz. Do you know? No, I'll go talk to him. You let me know. What does he have in his pocket? Just marijuana. Does he have a card? Anything other than marijuana though? I'm in. What's he reaching for? What else besides weed you got? I have my prescription. Oh, okay. Do you want to talk to that guy? It's not a So, you got a medical card or no? You want to step back here for No, I don't, sir. All right. All right, then. We don't need this, then. Is this down? Yeah. That is in no way, no shape, form, or fashion a personal medication. Do you have any guns on you? No. All right, you want to hop out? You don't have any kind of weapons or anything? No. Do you have anything in your pockets? Step back here with this officer, please. I've been on the news before. You can record all you want but you're going to get up there. I'm honest with you I don't do it often. Right here sir. I'll just go over here though. Doing it this way or I'm going to I'm going to get that out. You have a CCW? Put him in handcuffs. This is going to be a big deal. This is not a big deal. It's no big deal. It's no big deal. I'll just say you can take it throw it away. You have a CCW? I'm going to get this. No sir I don't. All right put him in handcuffs. For what? Carrying a concealed weapon. It's not concealed. You cannot carry a loaded firearm like that. It's not loaded sir. It wasn't loaded but it still you can't have it concealed like that. It's not concealed. We'll talk about it. But right now you're going to handcuff. I thought you were allowed to have open carry in in a home without CCW. Right but you're in a car that changes everything. It's not loaded sir. Okay well I thought it was loaded we'll talk about that. I mean I know the laws for that for that I wouldn't You can look at my record I don't break the law. Okay. Where's the ammo to that in the glove box you said? Up in the front console. He's just being detained right now just relax. That's ridiculous. Lose any of that stuff and make sure When you get out to your mom You're probably going to walk away and drive away from this. Do you have a license? I I do. I'll I'll promise you. You can look up my record. I don't never break the There's the thing though, when we have when we have guns in play, we're not going to mess around though, okay? We want to go home tonight. I know, but I was honest with you. Okay. Anything in the vehicle? Yeah, go ahead and check it out. And the You said the ammo was just in the center console? It's in the center console as far as I know. Sometimes I throw it in there. My car My car is a mess. Where's the weed? Right here. Okay. Where, in a bag? Yeah. Where's the ammo at? Did he tell Will that he had a gun? No. I asked him if there was anything else in the car or anything. He needs to be He needs to get in proper handling. Is the ammo in the door? Dude, he just dumped these when he got stopped. Say what? What are you supposed to be doing? What? What are you doing? Subject Yeah. You there? Are you allowed to have possessed marijuana in Ohio? Did you read him his rights yet? No. like that for the law, so that's why I was honest with you. Yep, I appreciate it. And I don't break the law, so What once we like so we check, make sure there's nothing else in there, we'll we'll we'll go from there. All right. Hey, real quick. Yes, sir. Just cuz you're in handcuffs in the back of the police car, okay? You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice before I ask you any questions and have with you during questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be appointed for you before questioning if you wish. If you decide to answer questions now, you have the right to stop answering questions at any time. You also have the right to stop answering questions at any time until you talk to a lawyer. Do you understand your constitutional rights? Yes, so you read me my Miranda rights. So, you are being detained. I'm talking to you. You're being detained. And I don't have to do anything. I'm just detaining you, but I'm just All right. So so having your rights in mind, are you willing to talk to me right now? Yeah, I mean I'm not hiding anything. I don't know why you're taking me. So, when you got At what point after the lights turned on, did you unload that gun and and put the rounds into No, no, sir, I did not. I did not do that. At what point did you touch the gun after the I took the gun out of my pocket. I did do that, but the gun was never loaded. Why do you have an unloaded gun? For protection. Cuz I know you're not allowed to have it loaded in the car. Mom, I'm telling them I'm being truthful. So, why are the rounds in the door? Why loose rounds? Two loose. They held two rounds, right? Yeah, I got I got rounds everywhere. Well, it just seems odd to me that they're in the and you took the gun out of your pocket. They're in one pocket and the gun's in the other pocket. Why do you do that? Because well, if it's an emergency, how am I going to protect myself? Are you The gun's not concealed. Are you not allowed a CCW? No, I'm allowed to get a CCW. Well, I'm working on it. I mean, I don't have one right now. So, you referenced the Ohio open carry state. And is is having a pocket gun inside your pocket concealed, is that open carry? It's not concealed. What concealed in my pocket? Was it inside your pocket? Yeah, inside of my pocket. So, how's that not concealed? It's not concealed if the thing is low. I mean, you you you're on my record, sir, and I'm clean as can be. You just got to do things the right way, though. This is Having ammo in one pocket and the gun in the other pocket is not the right way to do things. Yeah, but I can't promise I'm with that. No, I don't agree with that because how much gives yourself you have to protect yourself sometimes. How you going You're comparing apples to oranges. Well, not necessarily. I end up going to some bad neighborhoods. I only took her up here for some time. Why do you choose to go to some bad neighborhoods? I don't. It's my job that puts me there. What do you do for a living? I I build big storage tanks for oil. Are you from around here? Yeah, I'm from Fort Jefferson, and I I took her up here for counts. Is this your wife or girlfriend or what? That's my daughter. That's your daughter? Yeah. I didn't come up here to cause any trouble, I promise. I didn't say you were causing trouble, but you got to You have to understand when we encounter guns on the street, it's not usually a good thing. Yeah, but I didn't have to tell you that, and I didn't have to let you look in my vehicle. Well, let me ask you this. Why Well, as soon as you had marijuana and didn't say you had a car that opens the entire car up for a search. Why didn't you tell the Why didn't you tell the They told me that your dog went up on the marijuana. That's correct. So, what's Why didn't you tell this officer here when he first stopped you that you had a gun? I did. This first officer I did tell him that. The skinny guy. Yes. Hey Walter, did he tell you I had a gun? All right. Yes. Yes, I did. I told my daughter. You told the big guy up there, the second guy. There's three of us here. Well, well maybe he didn't ask if I had one. I know I was You don't think that's a pertinent thing to say? He asked if I had anything in the car. I told him I had nothing. I'm saying that you He I'm not saying that you lied when you were asked directly about it, but you failed to give that information up when the officer first stopped you. He didn't ask. Okay. Um I I I have nothing to hide. I've been honest with you. I know what my the law is. I didn't have to tell you anything. Okay. So, where did you get your weed at? That doesn't matter. How much did you pay for it? Not much at all. Not much? Why? Is it ditch weed or what? Yeah, pretty much. I don't I don't do it all the time. So, I can't smoke that potent [ __ ] everybody smokes. That wax and crap. See, I know it can be out of my system in 3 days. Oh, you got to be clean for your job or something? Yes, sir. All the time. I I take drug More drug tests than anybody. Really? Yeah. Okay. Well, I think they're about done. And we'll wrap this up and then we'll discuss what's going to happen about this gun, okay? If you want to take that, you can have that, too. Oh, we're going to take it. All right. Take Are you done in the car? Did you find any other ammo? There's two rounds in the floor. Yeah, that's why I wanted to talk to you. He He had it in his pocket when you stopped him. He took it out before you got up there. He took it out of the gun? Took it out of his pocket. Hey, what What pocket was it in? Right pocket. And the ammo was in the left pocket? Yes, sir. Front pockets. Yes, sir. Okay. Hey, uh That's my rent money. We're not taking your money. Okay. I listen. I don't want to go We have to count money. I can't afford to go to jail. Okay. My family needs me right now. Just so you Just so you know with the money, we count it so there's no allegations of any money coming up missing. If you want to take my gun and take that crap, you can keep it all. Okay. I don't care. We're not taking your money. I mean, you can take Well, at least not my money, but you We're not taking your money. You can have everything else. I just can't afford to go to jail, sir. Okay, we're not taking your money. Did you get any of this? No. I just started. I hate you. Like you need to go. He had the ammo in his pocket. the gun in his right front pocket and the ammo in his left pocket. He had it in his pocket? Yeah. Yeah, he needs to go. For sure. He had a piece on him. He had it between the seat? Yeah. And the ammo was He took it out when he was getting stopped. Yeah. Yeah, he's got to go. Solder it. Yeah, I know. I know. These solder rigs they do dabs. He claims he doesn't do dabs. Says it's too much. Like too expensive too much? Uh too too much high. Oh. So he didn't have any more ammo in his pocket? Hey, search him. I assume not, but I don't know. 18 minutes check out. Okay. 10-4 37. You have a valid license? No? What is that going to do to me? Huh? What is that going to We're searching the car. Are you arresting him? Uh at this point it's not completely decided yet, but he'll probably go to jail. Why? Improper handling of firearm in a motor vehicle. I smell vomit or something. It's just like dried up spoiled milk. Ow. He's leaving it parked. Say what? I didn't hear the question. Where's the bond bondsman? Where is the bond going? Uh I honestly don't know of any that are local around here. You just have to Google that. He'll see the judge today. It's 12:30. This is ridiculous. What are you charging him with? Improper handling of firearm in a motor vehicle. Why? He had it in his pocket and he took it out when he got stopped. No, he didn't. Okay, well, those were his words. So, I don't need you to lie to me. I'm not lying. Okay, well, this conversation's over. I didn't I left it when I saw it. It's in there. It'll be right there. I didn't see any other ammo in there. So, you have a license? I'll let you I'll let you talk to him before we go. But, do you have a license? She's going to try to get somebody to get the car. He's going to run a mile over the misdemeanor and almost get taken. Does he know he's going? I don't know if he does. Did you tell him he's going? I'm going to figure out what we're doing. You can get that figured out in a second, but I want to let you know what's going on. Based off of this You can just get out. Won't you just step out? You can Yeah, I'm going to have you sit in my car, okay? I thought honestly it wasn't the best possible. Well, it's a little serious. I mean some people get shot. If you look at my record, it's not. I know, but I'm loaded over here. I'm no threat at all. It seemed like you meant to fight. I'll talk to you. Are they both tight? Yeah. I promise you I ain't no threat at all. And I do have the utmost respect for law, but I appreciate it. I thought honestly it wasn't the best possible. Evidently it's not. It is, but cuz I didn't have to give you the right to even search. I mean As soon as you said you had marijuana without a medical marijuana permit. even have to tell you that. Okay. But I thought I'd be honest with you cuz I know it's decriminalized. I mean, yeah, you're going to ticket. Does that feel good? Does that feel better? The last one hurts. Well, it's I mean, I can't I can't stand it. It is they're not comfortable. fit I mean, it's right on fat fingers and I can fit two fingers in there. It's right on that bone, though. Well, I mean, you just have to All right, I'll deal with it. I mean, I can't I'm pretty tough. I'll deal with it. Oh, I like toughness, but I don't want to hurt you. Yeah, she wants to talk to you. Hey, I ain't going to put up no fight with you. You know what I'm saying? I have to put up with the law. Hey, you want to talk to him real quick? Do you want to see what's going on? Uh You don't have to if you don't want I'm all right, dude. I'm all right. What do you want me to do? Do you want to wait for a OR bond for the judge? And he is saying that the you are afraid of the judge today or do you want us to bail you out? going to be an OR. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I don't know. I'm going to get in trouble all the time. I don't know. I don't know what to do. There's money on the credit card. That's all I got. That money is rent money. Tell your mom to take that money and pay his rent. Do you know her number to call her once you get to the jail? What's the His phone and the money? Yeah, that's up here. I'll get it to I'll give you that out. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's my rent money. Okay. And my wife's got to be able to have a So, you want her to have all the money? Yeah, I trust her. That's my daughter. Okay. I brought her up here for counseling. That's the only reason why I'm up here. Sorry. It's all right. I told you. I don't I guess I didn't know the says she should have told you about that. I didn't understand the law. I thought you could carry it as long ones that weren't loaded. No, they seen you had it in your pocket and then you put it on the floor. It wasn't in my pocket and I did get it out to put it in the console. You need to have the ammo in a completely separate un- reachable compartment. Unless you've got a CCW. Well, that I didn't know. That's the only thing I didn't It was separate from it, wasn't it? Yeah, it was in my pocket cuz I was over there working on a house and there was a bunch of damn tweakers walking around the house, so I had it in my pocket. I'm renovating a house and I'm in a bad neighborhood. I understand. Let me see your CCW. I mean, if you're not disqualified I'm not You should have got a CCW. I don't have no felonies or nothing. Let me see your CCW. It's easy. Well, you have announced too late now. I'm not going to get this charge. Yeah. Still good. The weed don't look good at all. I'll let you say that. They passed a law in 2019. This is under a certain amount. I'll I'll take the gun charge, but can you The weed is just a ticket. Can you just drop the damn weed? That ain't hardly [ __ ] there. I'll take I'll take That's what's supposed to happen. I'll take the gun charge. I understand, but that's just the way it is. You're more concerned about the minor misdemeanor ticket? You don't want that on his record. You work for the company. want it on my record, sir. I'd be more concerned about a gun charge. So, she's got You want to You want to just verify what you got in the bag? I really have the gun charge and you think you can just drop that? That's These are already got written. That's his call. So, we can just talk to him, sir, cuz I I know. I understand. I'd also take responsibility for Well, I'll I'll take the ticket for it. It's mine. No, you can't do that. All right. Guys, take five. All right. What do you want to do? Do you want to get bailed out? How much does it cost to get bailed out? Depends sure yet. It's going to depend on what your bond is. I'll figure it out. Well, it's going to be $590 to see the I don't know what to do. I'll figure it out. You got Don't use that cash. Do not use that cash. That's for rent money. I'll figure it out. Are you going to stay with the car? Are the keys in there? Uh where where did you guys Did you leave the keys in the car? Yeah, they're on the seat. I'm going to grab my So, you're going to stay with the car until somebody gets it? Yeah. I love you. I'm sorry this It's all right. I mean, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to carry my gun. Long as it wasn't loaded. All right, man. I didn't know it had to be in the separate You're good to go. Is he just going to call over his verbal? Actually, you know what? I was just going to say he's going to He should just go over and then sign and everything. Let's do that. I'll have him do it. Two birds, one stone. No. Here's your court date. Well, We're going to do musical cards cuz you're going to get a verbal here. You're going to have to get talk to the prosecutor tonight. Property? He only gave He gave the daughter the money and stuff. He'll just have to go to your verbal at the prosecutor's office. It's just easier cuz you're going to have to sign. She took the whole bag of property. She took the money. I assume Brian gave it to her. You want to make sure that's the gun. He wanted her to have the phone and the and the money. She took She took everything. This is his only only property. Yeah. Did he put the ammo in there? Just the two rounds? Yeah, just the two rounds. I don't know how long it will be. He just got to wait till he gets bored. I won't be here. All right, he's good to go. Your daughter will have a question for you. Hey, where's the credit card? There's this cash and it's cash and phone. Which credit card is it? The one on the counter? You're good. Stop. All right. That's fine. All right. I'm going to call somebody in for court. He's on his way. He'll be on his way. He'll be back in the zone.