I'm saying, what is he even on the phone no more? What are you >> Can you step out of the car for me, please? >> He's not on the phone. What are you saying? >> It's still on, ma'am. I'm not stupid. >> No, it's not. It's not on. >> Again, step out of the car, please. >> He's texting. It's not on. >> Ma'am, I'm asking you to step out of the car nicely. >> On August 29th, a DeKalb County officer stopped a driver for an illegal turn on red. She had no license and provided a name that returned no record in the state database. What followed implicated three areas of Georgia law. >> How you doing? >> Hello. >> Show your license, please. >> Sir? >> Show your license, please. >> My ex The reason for the stop? >> Yeah, there's a no U-turn Sorry, no red No turning on red over the intersection over there. >> Well, I didn't see that. >> They're all posted on all four corners of the lights. >> Oh. >> That's why the pedestrians are crossing over the side of the roadway. >> Oh, wow. I'm sorry. I didn't >> You're good. You doing okay today? >> Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't have it. >> You don't have your license with you? >> It's in my purse. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> You have a Georgia license or a Mississippi? >> Um Mississippi. >> Okay. What's your last Is this your car? >> My sister's. >> What's your last name? Spell that for me. What's your first name? >> Last name. >> Last name. What's your first name? >> Krasika. >> Spell that for me. >> K >> I'm sorry? >> K R A S I K A. >> Krasika. All right. And what's your date of birth? What year? >> Um '98. >> '98? >> No, not '98. I'm sorry. '89. >> '89. How old are you? >> Don't that tell you how old I am? >> How old are you? >> Don't that tell you how old I am? >> Okay. So, we're going to start over. And if you want to keep lying to me over a simple freaking ticket >> What am I lying about? >> How old are you? >> I'm 34. >> Why couldn't you tell me how old you are? >> Because it shows me >> you're sitting there trying to think about how old you are. >> nothing. >> You sure this is your real name? >> That's yes. >> 100%? I mean >> I'm 100% but I'm >> Okay, I'm going to listen to me. I'm going to give you one more chance before I go back to my car. >> That's my name. >> Okay, that's fine. You said you're how old? >> 34. >> I need to talk to you. All right, what's a good address for you? >> Well, my Mississippi address? >> I need an address where I can send you my information. >> Okay, 723 McKinley Avenue. >> 723 >> McKinley Avenue >> Spell that for me. >> M C K I N L E Y Avenue >> Uh-huh, where's that at? >> Mississippi, Hollandale, Mississippi. >> What's the zip code? >> 38748 >> And spell your last name one more time for me. And your first name? Spell it. >> C R A N S A C K A >> Okay, and your date of birth was? What year? >> 89 >> You sure? I can give you one more chance before I walk back to my car cuz if I find out that you're lying and I got to hunt >> What you waiting for? I mean I just gave you the >> If I find out you're lying to me, you're going to go to the DeKalb County jail for false name and date of birth. >> Why would I have to lie to you about my name? >> trying to cuz people lie to me all the time. >> Okay, I have no reason to lie. >> Okay, cuz normally everybody knows their date of how old they are too and you have to sit there and think about it. >> I didn't have to think about nothing if I >> What's your sister's name on your car? >> If I just gave you the the information that's I thought maybe you would know that. >> I can give you my date of birth right now and tell you how old I am and it's still a I got to think about it. >> not thinking about anything. I thought once I gave you the I was born you know what I meant to tell telling I am. >> It would, yes, you're correct. But if I know how old I am, I'm going to tell you immediately how old I am. >> I mean I shouldn't have to. You shouldn't have to ask if I just gave you the year I was born. >> Because when someone doesn't have their ID, I'm trying to identify them and make sure this is the real name cuz people lie to me all the time and give me false names and stuff. >> Well, I just changed my my bag before I left the house. >> My purse. >> Okay. What's your sister's name? >> The owner of the car? Rashida. >> How do you spell that? >> R A S H I D A A H. >> And what's her last name? >> Same last name. >> Same last name? Do you know her date of birth? Do you know what year? >> Um I think 1990. >> All right. Give me one second. You said Mississippi, right? You tell me good. 47 with a You're not being cooperative. Come here over here, please. >> Under Terry v. Ohio 1968, observing a traffic violation establishes reasonable suspicion for a lawful stop. The Fourth Amendment requires only that the detention remain limited in scope to its purpose. Requesting identification is a constitutionally permitted component of that investigation. When no physical license is produced, the investigatory scope expands. Georgia Code Section 16-10-25 makes it a misdemeanor to provide a false name or date of birth to an officer. The statute requires intent to mislead, a threshold met by a sustained pattern of fabricated, inconsistent statements. A Fifth Amendment distinction applies here. The right to remain silent is protected. The right to lie is not. Providing false information is an independent criminal act. Impersonating her sister also exposed an innocent third party to citation points and potential license consequences. >> Asked for a license, she didn't have one. Asked for a name, she gave last name Emery. What's your date of birth? >> Uh Uh 90 I'm not not 90 89. Well, how old are you? >> Well, doesn't it tell you how old I am? >> I mean yeah, it does, but how old are you? >> Well, if I give you the information, it should tell you how old I am. I totally understand that, but how old are you? Well, I I It should tell you. Well, how old are you? This is what? 34. Well, now that you thought about it? So, I said to him, "I'm going to give you one chance before I go back to my car. You have every right to change your name if you want to right now, but if I've got to dig and find, you're going to the county jail." So, I'm going to No, not yet. She's shaking. She pulled the whole "Got a fingerprint on your stand line?" Does someone have one? >> I mean, somebody has one. We can get one eventually, but >> See if this lady doesn't show. >> So, that's the You're saying So, there's a name that she gave you? >> No, that's She gave me Cran- And she got Hemry. Her sister says she's is Rashida. >> So, I'm pretty sure that's she's Rashida. >> Um, 100%. >> I'm going to go see what she says and tell me. >> Huh? >> You go see what she tells me. >> Thanks. You're going to have to go through the whole thing again, yeah? >> Hey, so that name's not coming back. What's Can you give me the spelling? >> The spelling? >> Yeah. >> C r a n What do you mean it's not coming back? >> Okay, so when I run the name, it doesn't return back. So, I'm >> h e k a >> Okay. That's what we ran. So, we do have a fingerprint scanner on the way, so that'll tell us who you are. So, I don't That's just making sure we it spelled right. >> Okay. >> Have you ever been fingerprinted for anything before? >> No. >> You said no? Okay. What's your birthday? What's your birthday? I just want to make sure he has the right information. What birthday did she give you? >> I know. >> She just told me '88. Yeah, 1988 makes sense. I mean 2008 18. She gave me the right name, wrong year. >> Huh? >> She gave me the right name, wrong year. What's your social? >> Sorry. >> What's your social? >> I don't know about her. >> You don't know your social security by heart? How old are you? >> 24. >> Okay, that's what I wanted to know. Okay. So, you told me you're 34, 35. You've given me a two different date of births. Okay, well the license you gave me is suspended. So, do you want to try another one or >> The licenses I gave you >> The name The name and date of birth that you gave me, that person's license is suspended. >> No, cuz she can No, it's not. >> Okay, cuz you haven't had a license since 2021. >> It's not suspended. >> Well, they are. >> No, my license is not suspended. >> Do you have anything that has your name on it? >> Not on me. Debit card >> Debit card, check >> changed my purses. >> So, there's nothing in your purse right now that has anything with your name on it? >> No. No, I got no social in my purse. >> Cuz what we do is we have a rapid ID coming up. We're going to take your fingerprint, and it's going to tell us who you are. >> I got no social cards. >> Okay, you know how the fingerprinting procedure works, right? >> No, I don't. >> Huh? >> I said no, I don't. >> Okay, so we're going to come up, and you're going to give a We're going to get take your fingerprint and put your information that you gave us, and it's going to tell us who you are. >> Okay. >> And you still want to go with us where we're going with, right? And the date of birth you gave me, you're 34, not 35. >> I said '88. I said '88. >> Yeah, and you just told me you're 35. >> I don't think Yes, I hear you. >> And I just asked you how old you were, and you said 35. >> Yeah. >> But you're 34, according to the date of birth you gave me. >> I said '80 I said '88. She just asked >> Yeah, I'm clear, which still makes you 34. Not 35. >> She just asked me. Hold on. Hold that. >> So, we keep playing this game, or >> What game? >> You're lying to me, that's why. >> I'm not lying to you. >> This could have been a simple citation, and been out of here. But you want to keep playing games and make me dig, that's fine. I don't mind working for my money. >> Hold up. >> All I'm asking you is for to tell me the truth. >> What'd you say? >> You hang up the phone right now, too. >> Yeah. >> You need to hang up the phone. >> Okay. Okay. >> Hang up the phone. >> I just want to know what is going >> You need to hang up the phone. >> What happened to the >> Because I'm talking to you, not them. It's being recorded, ma'am. Everything you said is being recorded. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Hang up the phone, please. You need to hang up the phone or step out of the car. >> I mean, okay. Me being on the phone ain't got nothing to >> Go step out of the car for me. >> I'm saying what is He ain't >> Go step out of the car for >> He said he was on the phone. What are you >> You need to step out of the car for me, please. >> on the phone. What are you saying? >> It's still on, ma'am. I'm not stupid. >> No, it's not on. It's not on. >> Again, step out of the car, please. >> He's texting. It's not on. >> I'm asking you to step out of the car nicely. >> You just want to get defensive with me for no reason. >> ma'am. I have not raised my voice. You can leave the phone in the car. >> You said I'm on the phone. I You had hung up the phone. >> Step back here. Thank you. Step over here, please. What's in your other purse, your backpack? >> What backpack? >> The fuzzy one that's up front. >> clippers. >> That's your clippers? Okay. So, how old are you? It's a very simple question. It's a very simple question. >> I'm going to be honest with you. >> That's all I've asked for since day one. Real simple. >> Okay. So, either way, >> You're lying. I mean, it's very ob- You suck at lying. No offense, not to be rude. It's your face totally shows you're lying. >> I'm going to be honest with you. >> That's all I want. >> I'm missing that. >> I figured that. So, who's Precious Chica? Is that your sister? Okay. Have you been arrested before? Okay. So, when we take your fingerprints, going to show that to you? >> I just >> What's wrong with your license that you're giving us someone else's name and date of birth? >> I don't supposed to be driving. >> Huh? >> I don't supposed to >> And so >> you're going to screw your sister over? Cuz what if I believe you and took all that information and wrote you a ticket and sent you on your way? That means she has to answer the ticket, not you. >> I will just pay it. You let me know when and I'll pay it. >> But the points go on her license. So what's your last name? What What is? Spell it. And the first name, spell it. >> R E That's eight. I D A H. >> I what? >> I D A H. >> And what is your date of birth? What year? How old are you? Huh? >> 32. >> Same address you gave me? >> Yes. >> What's your social? >> Pennsylvania v. Mims 1977 establishes a bright-line rule. An officer may order a driver out of a lawfully stopped vehicle with no additional justification. It is a lawful command, not a request. Refusal constitutes obstruction and removes the protection of passive non-compliance. Georgia Code Section 45-121 makes operating a vehicle on a suspended license an independently arrestable misdemeanor. Driving is a privilege, not a constitutional right. The officer held two separate grounds for custodial arrest simultaneously. The false ID and the suspension. Georgia law grants officers field discretion to weigh the totality of circumstances. Here the officer declined to charge Section 16-10-25 despite clear probable cause. That is a constitutionally recognized exercise of enforcement level prosecutorial discretion, not leniency. >> You know who some of that was? All right, have a seat in the car. Make sure this is you. I see your car. Huh? >> Then I'll have to go to jail, so. >> I haven't made that decision yet. Depends on what's I don't know if you got warrants or anything like that. >> I don't any Just a prepaid line. >> Okay. Cool. Have a seat in your car for I don't want you out in this weather cuz it's about to get bad. Uh close here. What you get? It's the only one registered, all right? >> No, that's I mean it's >> Huh? >> That's the name. I'm trying to look at her with that phone. >> Was she Yeah, she just said She just heard. >> So she did finally admit to it? >> Yeah. I just stole them. She stole them. How old you I'm right. She said she's actually suspected. >> Oh, she is? God, I hate when your sister really just screws everything up. >> You go in your car cuz this is but I wish You can't get into that covered area, can you? >> It's right here. It's at the back of the building over there. But even then the cameras are all >> Uh It's locked. Can we get to that parking lot after it's open? It's open now. Back here? >> Yeah. Well, no, it's the gate it's The gates are down. >> If we go in the Walmart It's on the same one, right? >> I don't know. You said this is it. This you're getting wet. >> I'm not getting wet. I'll wait. I'll sit here all I got all night. >> You need one of those little reachers? You know, the little grabbers where you just hold it out the window? >> Let's do the You got to have a code for those um fingerprint things? >> I used to have it. So I'm on disability. >> I used to have a thing for those things all that. >> So do I, but that's also what took the disability. >> Apparently Mississippi doesn't put the driver's picture on there, so >> Oh, they do tomorrow. >> Cuz this is a Which one is that? That's the sister. I know what she looks like. So is she there? You just want to look at her one more time? Oh, okay. Okay. Yep, that's right. You there? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That is definitely not you. That's your sister? >> Yeah. >> Yes. That'd be you? Very good. All right, do you have anybody to come pick up the car so we don't have to tow it? >> Um >> I just need to come back. You're not going to jail. No, I'm going to write you a bunch of tickets. All right, I'm not charging you with false name and date of birth. All right. >> I apologize. >> What? When So that's why I said, "Are you sure you want to go?" Cuz before I go back to my car if I was a dick, I can take you to jail for false name and date of birth. And I really just don't feel like driving to DeKalb County right now. Okay? But when it gets to court, I'm going to let the judge know that you lied to me as well, okay? But um see if you can find somebody to come pick you up and just know that we've been doing this for a long time and this again, I'm not trying to be rude but you suck at lying. She even said it. Okay, it was horrible. Okay? Cuz you know how old you are. All right, so again, there's no reason to suspend a license. Okay? If you got the wrong officer, the false name I know, but I mean technically you can go to jail for the suspended license anyways. And your sister's license not suspended. I was just saying that cuz They are expired. They are expired since 2021. So All right, any other questions? All right, roll up your window cuz it's about to get nasty and then um see if we can find something to clean your vehicle, okay? It might be cuz if it gets bad I might give it a few minutes to pass over and then let me finish all the paperwork and stuff, okay? All right, yes, ma'am. Huh? Nick, yeah. The key has access. Huh? I used to know it. I need to write it down. Yeah, I don't know. >> All right, real quick. Two citations for for the suspended license and the no turn. Um your court date is October 17th. Other than that, you're good to go. You got any questions? Numbers on the back and the information's on the back. >> Okay. >> All right, any questions? >> No, sir. >> All right, tell them to apply next time. >> Thank you, officer. >> All right, be careful. >> Thank you. >> The officer receives an A. Every step had a legal basis. The stop under Terry, the ID demand incident to detention, the exit order under Mimms, biometric verification under reasonable suspicion of fraud, and citation over arrest as a proportionate discretionary outcome. The subject receives a D. A minor infraction became a criminal investigation through four inconsistent identity configurations, each compounding exposure under section 16-10-25. She avoids an F only because she complied with the Mimms order and offered no physical resistance. Three takeaways. First, lying to an officer is a criminal act, not a protected right. Second, a suspended license is an independently arrestable offense the moment it is confirmed. Third, officer discretion often turns on a subject's ultimate conduct, not their initial one. Let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic you would like us to analyze in the comments below. Thank you for watching.