Hey, put your hands. Bring it back. Put your back. >> Hold on. No, no, no. Excuse me. >> Hey, excuse me. >> Get back. >> My mother charge. [laughter] Y'all some >> Christmas Eve, Indian River County. A woman is on the ground. An officer says he didn't know she was pregnant. And by the end of this call, three separate charges are on the table. On December 24th, 2024, officers were dispatched to a report of a physical altercation. A couple fighting in the middle of the road. A neighbor called it in after hearing yelling outside. When officers arrived, they didn't find an argument. They found a woman actively hitting her husband. That distinction, argument versus active assault, is what shapes everything that happens next. >> Stop. Stop. >> Hey, put your hands. Bring it back. Bring it back. >> Excuse me. Excuse me. You doing nothing? Excuse me. Pull your hand. Excuse me. Excuse me. Hold on. No. No. Excuse me. Listen. Excuse me. >> Get back. Get back. Excuse me. Get back. Get back. Get back. Get back. Get back. Get back. Get back. Get back. >> Get back. Get back. I don't care. Get back. Pull your hands behind your back. >> Pull your hands behind [screaming] your back. >> What you doing? >> Pull your hands behind your back. Excuse me, sir. >> I'm right here. I'm armed. I ain't got nothing left. >> Get back. >> Excuse me, sir. >> Get back. >> Get back. >> I'm asking you. >> Get back. >> I'm the one that got us. You told me to get back before. I got one down and you just slammed HER DOWN. >> GET BACK. >> Get back. >> I got no camera. >> Get back. >> Don't worry about Don't worry about I got it over there. >> You did this. >> All right. Then you did that >> cuz I was trying to tell you this whole time you a dumb. >> Stop. Do not touch that. >> I don't care. Stop. Stop. >> Okay. Yeah. All right. >> All right. >> I can't We got to get out. >> I can't stay on my stomach. >> Nah, we got I'm bad at all cuz he ain't even asking if you pregnant or not. She 3 months pregnant. You just slapped him down and tried to take your toe. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. >> Stop. Stop moving. >> I don't want to hear that. >> Stop moving. >> I don't want to hear that. >> Stop moving. >> About that. >> I don't give a about that. My wife pretty much. I ain't got nothing. I ain't got >> I ain't got nothing. >> I don't have anything. But he moving around doing all that. I ain't got But you ain't hold no ground like that. >> Stop. >> Stop. Stop moving. I don't stop moving. I ain't getting nothing. >> STOP MOVING. >> I AIN'T GOT TO STOP MOVING. I GET I'm don't give a [ __ ] about going to jail, [ __ ] Stop. What are you talking about? Stop, >> man. I ain't want want to hear that. >> You talking about >> I need to move over. >> Get off. Roll off your stomach. >> Ma'am, stop. >> I need to stop. >> Stop moving. >> Sir, stop. >> I'm recording. Recording. She can definitely get off my stomach. She pregnant. >> Can I get [ __ ] He can't shoot you, >> man. I don't want to be tased. Stop moving. >> The you talking >> Stop moving. >> I moving. Did you talk about? >> Hey, y'all need to call on >> I'm not moving. >> You need to call an ambulance, bro. So, you're not going to do that? >> Yeah, but I'm not. >> So, you're not going to do that? >> So, what am I HERE FOR? I'M NOT I'M NOT NO IMMEDIATE threat to you or nothing. So, why I'm on the ground like this? And my hands are behind my belt. I can't stop. >> Stop. >> What is you talking about? Stop. >> I'm not threat. Hey. Hey. Watch him. Watch him. He's not complaining. He's not complaining. >> He's not doing no threat. >> Y'all some [ __ ] bro. >> Don't think I'm going to get my brother me. I can't get up like that. >> I'm not pulling up. You won't even let me get off my stomach. >> What are you talking about? You are weird. Wow. Wow. >> Okay. Come on. I'm going to help you up. Okay. Come on. >> Why can't you help? >> Come on. I'm going to help you up. >> I got one more. >> Get up. Get up. >> Okay. I'm trying to help you. Come on. >> Put your foot up. I'm weak as bro. >> Like I got all kinds of I'm going to help you get out. >> My first charge. [laughter] >> Y'all so goofy. >> Stop. Stop. Okay, sir. What's going on? >> Whoever she was helping me, we over here had a Christmas party. >> Okay. Have you been drinking? I can. Okay. Are you lying to me? >> No. It's okay. It's okay if you have. >> No, I haven't been drinking at all. >> Okay. >> She said, "No, they're going to go. >> DON'T TOUCH ME. >> DON'T TOUCH ME. What you touching me for? >> Don't hit you. YOU'RE OKAY." >> THAT'S WHY I'M IN HERE. >> GET OFF OF ME. >> HOLD ON. HOLD ON. RELAX. You're not It's okay. Hey, what's your what's your name? >> Hey, has she been drinking? >> Has she been drinking? >> She been drinking? >> That's my best friend. She's at my Christmas party. >> Okay, it's your party. >> That's her husband. >> That's her husband. >> He ain't nothing. >> Okay. Can all of you guys stay here one second? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here, bro. I'm going to talk to you real quick. >> Okay. That's your wife? >> Yes. >> Like, you guys are officially married? >> Married. Her name is My name is >> Okay. What happened to your shirt? >> I don't know. That's what I'm going to tell you. >> Did she hit you? >> No. >> So, before Okay. Well, she just hit you right now. >> No, because I'm You guys were arguing. >> No, listen. I'm going to tell you the story. I want to look for my car. Whoever we just got into it with, whoever we just got to it stole the car. >> So, I'm walking around trying to see where the car at. And she's telling me you we're not from around here. Don't be walking around here. We're not from around here. And then that's when we were just walking down the street. You feel what I'm saying? But I'm telling her this is my sister car. Like what? How am I going to explain to her? I'm on the phone with her right now. How am I going to explain to her by her car? You feel what I'm saying? >> But we wasn't getting into it at first. >> Uh lady right there called y'all cuz I ran up there and was like, "Man, I don't know who these people is that just jumped me, man. But they done took the car." >> Okay. So you just got You're saying you just got jumped? >> Yes. >> Okay. Did anyone witness this? >> Yeah. All >> Stop. Stop. Stop. Just point. They they saw it. >> Yeah. I I don't know who the dude was that I got into it that jumped in the car. >> What does he look like? I don't know. But he was drunk. >> He Oh, he had dreads. He had dreads. Kind of tall, slim. >> Do they know him? >> I don't think so. >> No. So, this is a some random guy. >> Yeah. He when But listen, when we were standing right here, you see the house that y'all went to right there? >> When he he was walking down this way, but he walked past, but he came back past. You feel me? When he walked past again, he said something to my wife. My wife been drinking and my wife went was going to go at it. >> I got in between. When he was backing, I got in between. Ain't nobody fight or nothing. Only thing he did when I grabbed my wife, he grabbed my shirt was like, "No, let her come. Let her come >> touch your wife, too." >> No, he didn't touch her. >> Okay. >> He didn't touch her. He was like, "Let her come. Let her come." >> So when I turned around to face him, >> she the one that came around and I [clears throat] He tried to grab her, but he didn't grab her. I stopped her before he grabbed her. >> Whoever the dude that jumped in the car and left, I don't know where he at. And >> this is your sister's car. >> This is my sister's car. >> Okay. Where's your sister? >> Hello. Hello. >> Hey, do me a favor. >> I'm telling you. >> Okay, I understand. Can you go over there for me, please? Can you talk to this deputy? You want to talk to this deputy about what you saw and everything, please? >> Hey, this is my sister right here. This is her car. >> I understand. Okay. So, did you see anything about a male with address? >> No. Okay. Okay. >> Can you uh He's saying the >> he was jumped before them before the argument. >> Yes. >> Okay. by a black male with dreads and stole his car. >> Okay. >> Okay. She's she's saying that there was a witness with that. >> Do you have his information? >> I'm about to get >> You have an idea? >> No, I don't have an ID. It was in the car. >> Okay. >> But this is my sister right here who the car belongs to. >> I I understand that. Okay. So, Okay. So, can you break that down to me? So, you where did this happen? Where you the car was? >> It started down there >> in front of that. It's a Mustang truck. I parked in front of the Mustang truck. >> Okay. >> Hold on. Okay. Can I talk to her? >> Yeah, you can talk to car. >> Yeah. >> Hey, >> I parked the front of the Mustang truck right now. That's all black Mustang truck. I parked the front of the truck. >> When I parked the front of the truck, me and my wife, we're not round from round. We're from town. >> Okay. >> I parked the front of the truck. When I parked the front of the truck, we've been out here for about 30 45 minutes. >> Dude walked down this way. When he walked down this way, >> this random guy. So, you saw him walk up? >> No, I saw him walk up the second time. >> Okay. >> That's when he walked up the second time. He passed us then came back. >> Okay. >> That was two times. He standing there just walking. What was he wearing? He was wearing Oh, a a Timberland white a white long sleeve shirt with a Timberland side on the front of it. >> You bleeding? >> It look like some hand. Right here. >> So, okay. White. >> This come from the door of me trying to grab the door. >> A taser. >> No, I didn't hit my head with >> I thought you said taser deployed. >> I got point. >> Hello. >> It's that come from the car. Me trying to grab the door on the car. You see how it split? >> Okay. But were you in possession of the car and he ripped you out? >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The door was open. >> The door was open. The car jump in the car and stole it. >> Yeah. And then when I tried to grab it, he slammed the door. Boom. Slam my hand and I snatched my hand back when the guard was going on. >> Um, so I pull up. >> I pull up uh over here, couple blocks down the house. >> Uh, the family's pointing down the road at them, too. >> Um, they see me. They keep walking away. As I pull up on them, uh, she starts hitting him. >> So, I try to pull her pull her off him and detain her. >> She then pushes me. >> So, I take her to the ground. She's >> She pregnant. She's the pregnant woman. >> I didn't know she was pregnant. Yeah. >> That's fine. Yeah. Doesn't matter. Change >> anything. Yeah. I'm just saying. >> Okay. >> And then I get on the ground. She's not giving me her hand. So, I push off and I I taser point. And he then he starts being non-compliant. He's like kicking my flashlight around. So, >> did he touch you? >> No, he didn't touch me. No, no. But now he's trying to claim a separate incident that his vehicle is stolen cuz his shirt is torn up and he's bleeding from his knuckles. >> Okay. >> So, all right. >> Yeah. >> So, she's refusing for hospital. So, you're good to go. >> Cool. >> Okay. Can you put your hands behind your back, please? Okay. Okay. >> My first child. >> Hey, ma'am. You can get in the car, please. >> I just explained that. Ma'am, do not make this worse. >> I'll explain it to you. >> You want me to talk to you? I'll talk to you with the window down. I'll talk to you sitting down. Okay. Can I put my hands in the front? >> No, we can't do that for each other. >> Why? I ain't I ain't doing that. I'm not aggressive as I'm fast. >> Now me, too. >> So, like I said, just sit down. >> Get in your car. Like, let me go. >> Okay, get in the car. >> I'm going. >> Okay, get in the car. I'm not letting you get in the car. >> I'm going. >> I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to jail for. Explain it to you. If this going to be my first charge, Bravo, >> come here. >> You don't hear me? >> I'm a >> Come here. >> No, he can't come here. >> Come here. >> He can't get in the car. He can't come here. >> He can't. Okay. >> He can't come. >> All right. I can wind down the window for you. Put your feet in for you >> and you going to be able to talk to me. >> We talk to our supervis. But you got to work with me though. We being cool. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> I ain't never told nobody you put your hands on me. >> Okay. That's a lie. >> He telling the truth. It's just what he seen. >> I'm not talking to nobody else. >> Okay, we can solve this then. You see what I'm saying? >> Listen, but you doing all You see what I'm saying? All this extra stuff. >> Why? >> I'm being nice and brought him over here for >> you doing all that >> cuz I don't have to do this, bro. >> Cuz at the end of the day, only thing you came down here to find out if I was pregnant or not. And then you doing all this and I'm going to jail on my first charge. And only thing I was trying to tell you is some [ __ ] But everybody know she know what's going on. Listen, listen, listen, listen. >> You talking about that is doing too much. >> Okay. So, what you talking about? >> Okay. But what we trying to tell you just said, I just put you in jail. I never put you in jail. >> I never put you in jail. >> And then you tell people these people thinking that we weren't here together. We was here the whole time. >> You came here with when I went in the house. And then when I came across outside, you say whatever your altercation was with the in the car to >> you know who this person is, you laughing and [ __ ] about this situation. >> No, it's not funny at all. But I'm going to >> Okay, but why you sitting there talking like you don't know like you didn't know what was going on? You talking about the altercation with this dude and you smiling like you know who he was. I told you I didn't know. >> I told you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> All right. Officers moved in to separate the two. She didn't stop. She pulled away and officers took her to the ground to gain control. Under Graham versus Connor, courts don't judge an officer's use of force by hindsight. They judge it by what a reasonable officer would do with the information available in that moment. In that moment, officers knew one thing. A woman was actively striking a man, and she was now resisting being separated. What they didn't know yet, because nobody told them, was that she was 3 months pregnant. A bystander is filming and yelling that officers never asked, but under the reasonleness standard, an officer isn't required to interview a suspect before intervening in an active assault. The claim makes for a powerful moment on camera. It doesn't change the legal analysis of the takedown. While officers restrained her, a second story was unfolding across the street. A man claiming his car had just been stolen. Torn shirt, bleeding knuckles, a stranger with dreads who allegedly jumped in and drove off. No suspect, no plate, no witness who could confirm the vehicle even left the block. Officers treated it exactly the way this kind of claim should be treated on body camera, politely and with visible skepticism. Back at the arrest, the woman keeps making the same argument. She's not a threat. Her hands are already behind her back. So why is she still on the ground? It's a fair question with an unsatisfying answer. Compliance during an arrest isn't measured moment to moment. It's measured by whether the underlying resistance has actually stopped. She gets medically cleared. She refuses transport to the hospital and officers move to handcuff her for transport. She was charged with three separate offenses. Battery, battery on a law enforcement officer, and resisting arrest without violence. In Florida, simple battery is a first-degree misdemeanor. Battery on a law enforcement officer is not. Under Florida statute 784.07, that charge gets reclassified up to a thirdderee felony. That's up to 5 years in prison for the same physical act, just directed at the wrong person. The lesson here is simple. The person you're allowed to grab in a fight and the person you're allowed to push away from you are not the same person. One of them is wearing a badge, and the law treats that difference as a felony, not a technicality. officers get a B+. They separated an active assault quickly. And once the pregnancy became known, treatment on scene never escalated, the only mark against them. Nobody flagged the pregnancy claim on camera before the takedown, which is exactly the kind of gap that ends up in a use of force review. She gets a D fighting through the separation and pushing an officer turned a misdemeanor domestic call into a felony. The car theft story from across the street never got attached to her case. It was somebody else's night on the same night. If you want more of these, the calls that look simple and turn into three separate charges by the end, subscribe. We post every week. Drop a comment. Do you think the officers handled the pregnancy claim correctly? We'll see you in the next one.