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you said you're not okay why aren't you okay because I have an ex who is like psychotic so you don't remember trying to open doors or anything like that David Edward Sam that's why we're here we don't bother people for no reason at all are you are you on something like maybe medication I am on medication would you overmedicate yourself maybe is that possible no ma'am ma'am no I get that hey get off me I I shut it I don't want to hear it I don't hey what's going on it's it's okay at this moment huh there's a lady inside the bathroom in here she's changing clothes but I think she doesn't want to be recognized she was listen to this crap and comes in on this plane on 34 and she tries to go off the back of the car to get out she tries to open the back door did she open it is that her right there yeah did she open it no okay and then she tried I guess numerous times to come off and go out of the jail is it cause she was intoxicated or what's that no they said she wasn't there oh someone told us she's intoxicated well I haven't physically seen her yet this is coming from the crew yeah she was under the influence of something okay she tried to leave the secure area so I tried to grab onto her she shoved me so I shoved her back to keep her out of the secure area do we have an idea of her motives or I don't know if it was just under the influence I don't know if something else is going on but you can't shove yeah she's in there changing clothes I think so nobody will notice wait for her to get out but I just we're just gonna find out if your intent is to fly again you can walk in someone to see if she's in the mood or yeah they are they just came out and uh she you don't want her to fly she ain't flying again no no I got enough drama in my life you ain't going to know did you already have her name no I have nothing she literally came off the plane by the time I got up here she's already in the bathroom you don't even have a seat number either right well we don't have that so yeah oh that's right that's so she was just on board the the crew is fine they it's nothing to do with they know whatever it didn't impede the fight it's just being intent on whatever she was trying to pull off hey ma'am ma'am what are you doing I need to talk to you a little bit yeah uh I know let's go back over here by the water fountain you okay what's going on with you what's going on I can't even explain it but but stand right here stand right here by the water uh what you said you're not okay why aren't you okay because I have an ex who is like psychotic like out for me so there you go do you have your ID can I see your ID real quick I might have to get it I don't know yeah that's fine what do you call them sir uh Ariel Lehigh they're right I'm gonna take it out of your wallet okay yeah can you explain to us what happened on the airplane apparently you had a couple you had a couple steps that that you that you took took inside the airplane yeah you did a couple things in the airplane that aren't normal and that's why we're talking to you no I have an X psychotic Nancy Henry OK well forget Yags 1 7 yeah what happened on what happened on the airplane that's what we're concerned about nothing like I'm good like so you don't remember trying to open doors or anything like that David Edward Sam that's why we're here we don't bother people for no reason at all name is Ariel Adam Roberts so the uh crew says that you tried to go out the back door a couple times you don't remember trying to open any doors are you on any medication I'm sorry no this is weird where'd you come in from Manchester Manchester okay are you flying back out no I'm flying here for three weeks okay to be with my best friend and their family okay this is hilarious there's somebody here to pick you up no I have to Uber to my best friend's house okay which is in my phone which alright have you already called them I don't know where's your phone we don't we don't have your phone here's your phone here's your ID man thank you for letting me look at I'm being serious like this is like just the weirdest thing on well let me ask you are you are you on something like maybe medication I am on medication would you overmedicate yourself maybe is that possible no OK OK how what is that supposed to be maybe you took a little too much cause uh what we're told is not normal that passengers do what we're told you supposedly did what did I do you try to go out the back door a couple times try to get out out of the airplane without the people already off the airplane no I asked her well there's a few people said the same thing ma'am we're not we're not here to we're here to offer you help as well as look and see why you did it alright so here's my thing so here is my best friend's phone number in my phone so can she come and get me and then we're all good call him call him call her or call him we'll walk you over to there and so you can get it get picked up were they already waiting for you no no she has no idea like oh I mean she just knew I was supposed to be flying in and I thought my flight was delayed so you don't remember anything that's not what I just said did you have luggage to pick up or no yes I have luggage to pick up OK I have a suitcase OK here here's your phone we'll walk you down there ma'am why talking with them that you mentioned somebody didn't like you or you had a problem with is that back home yes okay it's not here you came here to for vacation yes okay alright I understand I don't know unless I ask you well I think it seems a little more like something to you because of your level of inebriation you're kind of surprised by it but if you look at it from our point of view what happened requires a little conversation and so far so good everything appears good but we want to make sure you're safe if you need help you don't need any medical help at all I am actually dumb dumb right now on this whole thing and by the way you your little comment like that is bullsh*t because like listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen listen he and her are not the only ones that saw what we are describing to you but it's fine pick up your stuff we'll get you over here get you out of here I'm trying to make sure you can still fly out on us that's all OK alright so I can fly back to New Hampshire and just yes and yes that's what I want to make sure you're OK to do that's all make sure when you come back that you gotta be able to you gotta be not intoxicated cause they'll deny you that's just a friendly reminder you don't have to do it but it would be in your best interest come on let's go so what you're putting me back on the plane and going to have some no alright so listen listen let's go let's go let's go let's go we're wasting so much time we're wasting too much time well you will and we don't mind it we hope not let's do this one this way to bullsh*t I know why do I have to go to bullsh*t security and then she like you don't have to go to security we're getting you out of here we're getting you out of here you don't have to go to school out of here out of where like out of the airport miss we don't want you here okay so am I going home yes you take your Uber and get out of here we're gonna where am I I don't know I don't know wherever your destination is I don't know where I'm going I could not read your mind if I did I look at the lotto numbers so like OK so this is I'm just going to like you're going to get your suitcase OK you're going to get your suitcase that's right and then you get your ride to where wherever you wanna go here and then everybody's gonna kill me here and then like it's wherever you wanna go I can go back home yeah you can do whatever you want you're not in trouble yeah why'd you come here you came to visit somebody wherever that is no sh*t so well take your Uber there no sh*t right did you answer you were there come on I didn't hear it everything's good let's go we're wasting too much time though uh we're okay well that's great right there and go left okay so let's all go no you aren't you coming too no you're coming too no you're coming too I know if I yeah I right so let's go start going that way no you don't know me in a second I'm gonna grab you and you're not gonna like it so stop walking I like it when you grab let's go let's go this way come on here we go right here follow everybody we get on the shuttle we're not talking to you anymore we're gonna show you we're not talking to you anymore uh no I'm not kidding hey keep going no ma'am let's go no let's go I'm not going and then just keep going hey hey hey let's go yup no we're taking you to your Uber can you stop no I cannot cause you're not listening OK then the alternative I don't wanna start videoing you so your behavior's on file every time you see this red camera blinking it's it's recording you audio and video so I would suggest good behavior let's go come on come on we're about to depart please stand clear of the doors care about the other passengers too you're being recorded by us too so it's not a big deal let's just all have a good time that's what I'm gonna do yeah that's what I'm gonna do yeah that's what I'm gonna do that's what I'm gonna do that's what I'm gonna do that's what I'm gonna do that's what I'm gonna do next thing you know you've been walking across the runway you get waffled then we get in trouble so make sure you get to where you wanna go come on let's go let's go miss right over here to the elevator Miss ma'am no I get that hey get off me you listen to me OK OK you listen to me OK well you listen to me hold on hold on listen to me you're not gonna get off of my you're not gonna control you are yeah I did that you're not gonna but you're gonna totally take everybody else I'm gonna get off of you we're gonna be in charge now not you OK yeah mom I'm getting escorted out right now get off of my arm keep walking seriously get off of my arm keep walking I am not gonna let you go until you listen to what you're an asshole get off of my arm come on get off of my arm keep walking no get off of my arm ma'am stop ma'am just stop don't f*cking tell me mom I said ma'am just just relax ma'am I'm in the middle of an elevator Christina I'm getting hooked up and I'm getting confused Tony we might as well just they might as well just put a gun in my head so here I go because they're gonna they're gonna want to know why you think I'm kidding so right now Christina I am getting yelled at I'll take her back I'll get her back walk around they are totally why don't we go right back up to three then I'm just gonna yup yeah so here I go get the f*ck off my arm you're under arrest get the f*ck I'm under arrest Michael get off my phone I know I look like I'm kidding you Christina 4 3 once you get a cup we'll get that I can't oh my god ma'am stop ma'am stop stop you had your opportunity ma'am stop I have the opportunity to what ma'am stop stop stop resisting stop it I'm asking you a question it's been it's been answered you just refuse to understand you're too drunk to understand you don't even you don't even know what you did on the airplane you claim everybody else is lying so why should I continue to have a conversation with you when you deny everything you're denying everything no I'm not denying anything you said you didn't try to get off the airplane you said you didn't try to push anybody but you have a whole crew and a whole airplane full of people saying you did those things but you say no what the f*ck so just keep quiet cause we're not gonna get anywhere we're not gonna get we're it's it's nothing can I please have a phone call yeah in a couple hours you'll have a phone call when you get down to jail you'll have your phone calls I'm gonna adjust these yeah you ain't gonna get one right now okay why am I not allowed cause you're not at booking yet you gotta get to booking first why would I even be booking I'm not you're under arrest miss for what disorderly I wasn't even like on the plane like this is ma'am we we already discussed this and that's why I don't want to have a conversation with you you deny everything everybody's a bad person the crew members are are lying the passengers are lying so why should I even entertain a conversation with you when you don't even wanna be contrite no it doesn't and by the way I'm not actually resisting so if you can't figure out how to get the handcuffs off good for you because I'm actually not resisting if you can actually test it ma'am just relax because I'm actually not I'm not no just relax go ahead go ahead apparently like you're not allowed to do anything unless you say so yeah when I say you can do it you can do it well then why do you have to be such a douchebag because you're why do you have to be that way I'm not even doing anything why are you in handcuffs because you were not obeying all you had to do was obey no that is a lie on why I'm in handcuffs all I had to do was obey all you had to do obey you wanted to wander off on your own that wasn't happening no that what see that's why we can't have a conversation alright oh OK so just exercise your right to be silent how's that yeah how about that wait till this sh*t comes so what tomorrow morning I'm allowed to call my mother cause she knows where right tomorrow morning ma'am it's a reminder I'm putting your purse to come get your bag within 60 days good time yep well you're wandering off again why are you grabbing me cause you're not gonna wander off in my police department we're waiting on a car to come get you and they're gonna take you to jail and you'll figure out stuff over there they'll help you out I can't I need somebody push that away from my face please I can't I'm not gonna do that ma'am ma'am just gonna have to put up with it like oh my god I can't you just gonna have to put up with it really I can't get it out of my face yeah just shake your head somehow please I just I need it out of my face please out of my that's all I need out of my face yeah just shake your head I can't it's not going anywhere you just did it no I did not it's stuck in my face you asshole well it's gonna have to stay there how's that you call me names and that's what happens cause I just want you I ah shut it I don't wanna hear it I don't wanna hear it I don't wanna hear it just shut it please it's like you're not gonna die with hair there OK just relax just take it off no nobody's taking it off nobody's gonna put their hands on you just shake your head if he doesn't get off it's not going anywhere then leave it alone I can't yeah please can you any ma'am ma'am you're approaching you're approaching an officer I'm asking just somebody just to take the hair out of my face nobody's gonna do that please just that's your problem that's all you don't obey that's your problem you don't listen I'm not talking about I just we're not gonna do it just stop it nobody's gonna touch you nobody wants to somebody just take the hair nobody's gonna do it for the fifth time nobody's gonna do it listen you don't have to look at me that way I don't have to look at you how's that just want the hair out of my face that's all I want please just seriously like just one little swipe alright just shake your head if you can't shake your head if you can't shake your head then too bad for you we're not gonna do that we're not gonna do that just swipe my head that's all I'm asking I don't give two f*cks about them in the team just one swipe just one swipe in my head please I'm hearing voices just one stop grabbing my f*cking well I don't want you to keep trying to approach officers to try to get your hair out of your face well we've already told you six or seven times no but you're not listening so when when is it when is it gonna register in your mind that we're not gonna take the hair out of your face look that way cause you don't wanna look at me and I don't wanna look at you can anybody please nobody no for now that's eight times I want the hair out of my hair that's all I want is just the hair out of my hair I want is the hair out of my hair that's her stuff yeah she's got another bag you are totally like this that's why you're in handcuffs yeah really that single act of physical contact triggers federal jurisdiction under Title 49 of the United States Code Section 46 5 0 4 under Terry versus Ohio 3 92 US 1 1968 officers may conduct an investigatory stop based on reasonable 501 US 429 1991 officers may approach individuals in airports without converting the encounter into a seizure under Florida Statute Section 8 56.0 11 the state must prove the subject was intoxicated in a public place under Graham versus Conner 4 90U S 3 86 1989 under city of Houston versus Hill 4 82 u s 4 51 and exposes the department to civil liability under 42 USC section 1983 the lead officer receives a C plus his early de escalation approach was textbook patient open ended the subject receives a B minus she cooperated with the ID request on August 1st, 2023 airport police responded to a disorderly passenger removed from a Southwest Airlines flight the crew reported she made multiple attempts to open the aircraft's rear emergency hatch and physically shoved a flight attendant interference with a flight crew member a federal felony carrying up to 20 years in federal prison officers resolved this incident as a local misdemeanor that decision warrants serious scrutiny the initial detention was legally sound articulable suspicion of criminal activity a crew's first hand report of emergency hatch tampering provides far more than the minimum threshold Terry requires the stop was consensual at first contact under Florida versus Bostic provided a reasonable person would feel free to leave that threshold crossed the moment officers announced arrest everything after that moment is judged under custodial standards the arrest charge was disorderly intoxication and either endangered herself or others or was boisterous or indecent the subject's visible disorientation her inability to recall her conduct aboard the aircraft and her repeated noncompliance in a public terminal provide arguable probable cause for the charge as stated that part holds up what does not hold up is the officer's stated basis for arrest that she was quote not obeying failure to comply with an officer's instruction is not standing alone a criminal offense in Florida or in most American jurisdictions probable cause must be grounded in criminal conduct non compliance is not a crime this articulation is legally deficient turning to use of force the physical arm escort and subsequent handcuffing are evaluated force must be objectively reasonable from the officer's perspective at the moment of the decision not assessed with 2020 hindsight a non compliant visibly intoxicated subject repeatedly pulling away from escort in a public transportation venue falls within the threshold Graham permits the force level was appropriate the First Amendment analysis is straightforward 1987 profanity and verbal insults directed at law enforcement officers are constitutionally protected speech full stop the subject's use of the words douchebag and asshole cannot serve as independent grounds for arrest or as justification for punitive conduct this brings us to the most serious professional failure in this footage while handcuffed hands restrained behind her back the subject made repeated requests for an officer to remove hair from her face the officer explicitly denied that request stating on camera that his refusal was a direct consequence of her having called him a name that is retributive use of custodial conditions as punishment for protected speech it does not rise to a constitutional violation but it violates basic professional conduct standards the most legally significant and most overlooked moment in this footage occurs at approximately 13 minutes into the encounter the subject while in custody states quote they might as well just put a gun in my head whether this language represents genuine suicidal ideation or an expression of extreme frustration officers are not trained to make that distinction any statement reasonably suggesting self harm during custodial detention triggers a duty of care requiring formal documentation and welfare assessment under standard department mental health protocols no such response is observable in the footage the subject also states she is hearing voices this is a second independent mental health indicator it is also not formally addressed both failures create legal exposure for the department and represent a gap in officer training that warrants administrative review resolution focused the decision to initially release rather than arrest was correct force during the arrest remained within constitutional limits however the deficient probable cause articulation the retributive post arrest conduct and the failure to respond to mental health indicators collectively demonstrate that professional competence broke down precisely when it was most needed once the subject was in custody provided coherent information under questioning and did not escalate to physical violence against officers despite sustained provocation her post handcuff conduct was legally sound her liability stems from her conduct aboard the aircraft conduct she does not appear to fully recall and from her repeated refusal to walk in the directed direction which provided the proximate basis for the arrest she could have avoided the lesson from this encounter is threefold first when a physical assault on a flight crew member is reported federal jurisdiction attaches immediately local officers must recognize when an incident exceeds their charging authority and contact the FBI or TSA without delay second probable cause must be articulated in terms of criminal conduct not behavioral noncompliance that distinction is not semantic it is constitutional third once a detainee makes any statement suggesting self harm or disorientation the encounter becomes a welfare situation not merely a custody situation officers who conflate the two expose themselves their departments and their detainees to outcomes that no one benefits from let us know if there is an interaction or legal topic that you would like us to discuss in the comments below thank you for watching and don't forget to subscribe to our channel for more content on police court interactions
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