Do you know how fast you were just going, ma'am? >> I'm so sorry. I'm late for work. >> So, you could go over 80 mph on 92? No, ma'am. >> It's okay. This vehicle vehicle is a >> I'm not stepping out. Once I step out of the vehicle, I lose my rights. >> Two traffic stops, two officers who thought they were in control, but in each case, the moment they crossed the line was caught on camera. And by the end, one arrest decision was based off a child's game, and one driver refused to fold. >> Hey, the speed limit here is what, 45? >> Yeah, 45. >> She was going way I mean Cuz I haven't done one like speeding like that, so that's why I'm a little bit unsure. >> So, let's start with our first case. April 2018, Roswell, Georgia. Officers Courtney Brown and Kristie Wilson pull over a woman named Sarah Webb for speeding. Here's the problem. Brown never actually clocked her speed. >> Stay in the car. >> Sorry, my window doesn't roll down. >> Officer Brown, Roswell Police Department. Do you know how fast you were just going, ma'am? >> I'm so sorry. I'm late for work. >> So, you could go over 80 mph on 92? No, ma'am. >> Now, the officers have a decision to make, and how they make it is about to become a national story. >> I'll pull one over here. Guys I'm having issues with my CAD. Can you please do an 8 and 10 check on a Georgia tag? As well as an 8 and 10 check on a Georgia driver's license. Hey. She was going like almost 90 down 92. She flew past me. I had to get up to 90 to catch her. >> Wow. >> My CAD's not working. Is yours? What did you >> I checked. >> Casey is um can you check the tag too? My I'm going to have to restart this and see what the deal is. I'm on three. >> Careful one. Careful one. I got a 2005 birth certificate to the sky with a Lawrenceville valid negative 10. >> I'm going to restart my computer. >> I got a 32000 011 class C valid negative 10. >> Copy. Thank you. >> With no radar reading, the two officers start brilliantly weighing their options out loud with their body cam rolling the entire time. >> Don't make me skid around and >> I'm going to take I'm going to take her probably for reckless. >> Okay. >> She flew past me going probably 80 85 on 92 in the wet roads. She said she's running late for work. I had to get up to 90 to catch her. What do you think? I mean I don't have any speed sections at the same time, but >> No, but you can use the fact that you were going whatever speed and she went past you. >> Mhm. >> It's on camera, so you're going to have a back speed. You're going to have the fact that you went 90 to catch up to her. Um you're going to have two faster conditions and >> Yeah, I mean that's unacceptable. I told her I said you know the roads are wet, correct? You're running late for work and you're going above 80 >> Right. >> to get to work. I said call. I said do not do that and put people's lives in jeopardy. Starting it right now. What do you think? We're just tickets. >> Atlanta answer or Roswell answer? Hold on. >> Are you Are you Okay. Hold on. Thank you. >> valid. >> Yeah, sorry she did it. Unavailable. My CAD's not working. Who's that? >> A head or tail? >> Okay. >> This is tail, right? >> Instead of following the law for this scenario, one officer pulled out something you'd never expect to see on a traffic stop. >> Yeah, so really 23. Michael Jordan? Hi. >> Did you literally hear the coin flip through the air and land? It landed with the release. But that's not how this will go down. >> So I got two two fast for Let me write this down. Two fast for conditions. Reckless Is it reckless? >> For Yeah, you can do reckless um and then speeding. And you're just going to have to mark the pace one instead of the >> I mean, either way the speed limit here is what? 45? >> Yeah, 45. >> She was going way I mean Cuz I haven't done one like speeding like that, so that's why I'm a little bit unsure. >> the patrol vehicle spot and then it's going to ask you for moving or not moving and you're going to do moving. >> Can you help me do these damn tickets? My CAD won't even log me in. Hi, ma'am. Do me a favor. Step out of the vehicle for me. Put the phone down. Why am I being detained? Step out of the vehicle. Turn off the car and hand me your driver's Because, ma'am, you were driving entirely too fast for conditions. You put a lot of people's lives in jeopardy, okay? Double lock these so that they don't tighten on you. >> The driver is compliant the entire time, but yet a coin toss just decided what she would be doing for the rest of the day. >> Step away from my patrol vehicle. Do you have anything Do you have anything Do you have anything in your pockets? Do you Do you have anything on you that could poke, stick, or stab me? Any drugs, paraphernalia, anything like that? Okay. You have your bun. Return to the side for me. Okay. Move over here. I'm just going to shake this out, okay? All right. Give me your favorite stuff over here. My patrol vehicle. Have a seat for me. We're going to buckle you in, okay? RDR390R Alpha 110 copy. >> 519 13 >> How does this look, hun? perfume >> 2000 2289 >> 711 >> 415 >> I think I've got the keys. I've got my charger. I don't know if you're going to get too hot. You can take your phone with you. Now, your makeup bags and all that. Is it okay to leave those in the car? Cuz if >> I have to be at work. Is there any way I can just >> You can You can make a phone call, but that's all you can do. If you want to call them, you're allowed to call them, but >> Okay. >> Okay. Give me 1 second. I'll let you call them, okay? >> What could have been handled with a simple ticket was dismissed without even a second thought by the officer. >> Thank you. Who's your notary? >> No. I am, but without a stamp or hat. >> Oh. >> Who's that? >> I don't know why they're flagging me. No one's a notary that's here? All of you. >> There's not five people. I mean, I am. I just don't have my stamp yet. >> I'll go and keep looking for a notary. >> Is any part of this stop going to be taken seriously? >> What is your passcode, ma'am? I'll let you call whoever you need to. I understand, but you can't Who do you need to Who do you need to call, ma'am? Who do you need to call, ma'am? Vince? Okay. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> Hey, um I'm going to jail. >> 10-92 >> They're saying I was speeding. I was speeding. So, they're taking me to jail. >> What are they taking you to jail for? >> Because I was speeding. >> You want me to come get your car? >> Can you, please? >> He can't come get your car. It's good. He can't come and get your car. >> This Okay, apparently he can't go get my car. >> Why? >> I don't know, baby. >> All right, Cobb County. >> Where does he Where does he go Where does he Where does he live? Okay, have a good day, sir. There's no There's no reason that I should be going to jail now. Okay. And four cop cars, that's ridiculous. >> Once the footage surfaced, a prosecutor dismissed every charge, and Roswell PD didn't wait around in placing Courtney Brown and Christy Wilson on leave before they were fired. The department's chief put it bluntly, "This isn't a police procedure. To bring a coin flip, whether it's an app or an actual coin toss, that's not part of that decision-making to decide to take someone's freedom." Before we go any further, I know almost 50% of you watching right now haven't subscribed yet. I'm not mad. I'm just noticing. So, go ahead, click that subscribe button, and join us for the next case, too. Done? Great. Let's get back to the story. >> Well, you go ahead and take me out. I'm not I'm not legally getting out my vehicle when I haven't done anything wrong. Absolutely nothing. >> Next up, we head to Cumberland, Maryland, where a driver identified online only as Mr. Love was pulled over near a Sheets after officers claimed he failed to stop. This disagreement over something this small is about to turn into a full-on standoff before it's over. >> Step out of the vehicle now. >> What? For what? >> To obtain your ID. >> Have I been suspected of committing a crime? >> We we can scan any vehicle we want as long as we >> But have I suspected of committing a crime? >> a legal reason, so just step out of the vehicle. >> That's a traffic issue. >> Do me a favor, step out of the vehicle. >> Write me a ticket so I can go about my way. >> Step out of the vehicle. >> stepping out the vehicle, bro. I didn't do nothing. >> Step out of the vehicle. >> I didn't do absolutely nothing. >> From the very first exchange, he's not yelling. He's not threatening anyone. He's asking the same question over and over and waiting for an answer that actually makes sense. >> What law did I break? >> If you pull me out this vehicle, I'm going to file a lawsuit, bro. You violated my rights. >> to do that. If you don't step out, I will take you out of the car. >> Well, you go ahead and take me out. I'm not I'm not legally getting out my vehicle when I haven't done anything wrong. Absolutely nothing. I was pulled over the other morning going to work for my headlight, right? I fixed it. You want to check it? I fixed it. If you can pull that up, I fixed the headlight. I just came from I just came from my house, get gas, got me a soda, got my oil change. I seen you pulling to the station eyeballing the car the whole time. I don't know why y'all keep pulling me over. I'm out here working cuz I'm in a union. That's why I got Mississippi tags. That's the whole reason you're pulling me over. I drive the other car, you pull me over in it. You pull my old lady over in it. >> All right, well, if you step out, we're going to step out, we're going to scan the car. >> What you going to scan the car for? You can look and see there ain't nothing in the car. >> Okay. Are you giving me consent to search the vehicle? >> No, I'm not giving you nothing. >> He's not obligated to consent to a search just because an officer asks nicely. But saying no to a police officer, calmly and clearly, on camera, is exactly the kind of response that brings more officers to the scene instead of fewer. >> Call your supervisor. Call your supervisor. I'm telling you, pull me out of the car, you up. That's all I'm telling you. My people is working in McLean in McLean, Virginia. I'm telling you, you pull me out the car, you [ __ ] You're making a big mistake. >> issue is >> You're making a big mistake. >> reason. >> You stopped me cuz you said I pulled up No, you didn't come to the car. You didn't come to the car and say, "Sir, you smell like alcohol. You smell like marijuana." None of that. None of that. You just took Go to your car telling me I put You're pulling me over for a traffic stop. Go to your car and then 10 police pull up like I'm supposed to be scared or something. I didn't been through this plenty in my life. I'm not stepping out of this [ __ ] I'm not stepping out of this [ __ ] That's my right, dude. You don't know your You don't I'm done talking. >> By now, there are five officers standing around one car, and Mr. Love still hasn't moved an inch. Drop your thoughts in the comments on how you think this will end. >> You're being recorded. We're being recorded, so I know I am. That's my right, too. So, I wrote Let me roll down the window for him. So, he can see. He can smell. Everything's [ __ ] clean. This is my work vehicle. You see my fishing poles. I like to fish. I'm about to go buy me a boat soon. Yeah, look in there. Ain't nothing in here but work tools, fishing poles, a battery for my truck that I just sold. Charged it up for this guy. That's it. I don't do nothing Well, whatever y'all perception is, why y'all keep pulling me over? It's going to [ __ ] up after today. It's going to stop. I follow the traffic rules. I Well, if I haven't followed traffic rules, check my driving record. Check my driving record. No, you don't. No, you don't. I haven't did anything wrong, sir. I haven't did anything wrong. I let y'all slide on on 68 when y'all pulled me and my little girl out of the car one night. I let y'all have that. That officer, he's no longer working with you guys. I let y'all have that. I let y'all have I didn't fight. And I really had y'all to the left then. Head to the left. >> Mr. Love had seen these tactics before and he already knew how this could end. Not with consequences for himself, but for the officers who appear to be manipulating the situation. >> Do I Do I have a warrant? All right then. I ain't did nothing. I haven't did nothing. I'm listening. >> The reason we want you out of the vehicle is because it is their policy that the occupants of the vehicle have to be out of the vehicle while they do the canine. >> What they doing the canine scan for? >> We can scan any vehicle we want. >> For what? So why didn't the lady that pull me over there this morning, why didn't she do the same process? >> I wasn't there. >> And my headlight was out and I haven't done anything wrong. Anything. How you went back there back there eyeballing me and and go around the corner? They pulled me over for it's just an illegal stop, sir. If you're the sergeant or lieutenant He said he pulled me over because I didn't stop coming out of Sheets, which is stupid. There's traffic coming. Why wouldn't I stop, sir? Why wouldn't I stop? First of all, he pulled in looking at my vehicle while I'm pumping gas. Are you the sergeant? >> [clears throat] >> This is a traffic stop. Why can't he just write me a ticket and I go by my way? For what though? For What is the reason? Drugs? Okay, but he haven't said anything about drugs when he come to the car. He never said once he suspected me doing anything, sir. Nothing. It's not Because if I'm telling you I haven't done anything wrong and he's saying that I have, it's his word against mine. I haven't done anything. Absolutely nothing. They can scan the car around. I'm not getting out though. >> Even with a supervisor on scene now trying to smooth things over, he doesn't justify expanding this traffic stop into a full-blown investigation. So, when a K9 enters the picture without a clear explanation, the scrutiny shifts from the driver to the officer's justification. >> vehicle So, you just going to want to violate my rights? >> You have nothing to worry >> Go ahead and violate them. Yes, it is. You can open the door and let him in. They searching and putting the K9 in my on the car, y'all. What reason? I don't know. Didn't say anything about nothing when he pulled me over, but all of a sudden he want me out of my vehicle to search my car when I have done anything wrong. >> Everything that happens in the next few seconds either justifies every bit of this standoff or proves the entire thing was unnecessary from the start. >> I'm the K9 guy. >> Yep. >> I just scanned the vehicle. >> He alerted, didn't he? >> No. >> Yeah, cuz obviously now cuz I mentioned he was he didn't. It's bull. Nothing against you personally. What's your officer What's your name, sir? >> Baluch, b a l u c h. >> He's been cool. You can finish what you was telling me. >> Uh so >> Sorry. I cut you off, bro. >> So, like I said, dog didn't alert to the vehicle, but I always interview anybody after I scan whether the dog alerts or not. >> Yeah. >> Just cuz I want to make sure the dog is doing what he's supposed to. So, there's never been any any drugs in the car, nothing like that? >> No. >> All right. Works for me. >> No drugs in the car. I'm free to go? >> Look, they'll they'll also be with you in a second. >> Okay. >> But as far as the dog stuff, you're you're done. They just have to finish your warning or whatever they're doing and then >> Thank you, sir. No, I don't need to give me no warning. He need to write me a ticket. Cuz they keep giving me warnings, but he keeps saying I keep violating the law. >> So, so here's your warning. >> That's another warning. >> Cuz I don't like >> I've done nothing. >> I don't feel like writing a ticket, but You're going to get a ticket, but >> Yep. >> Here's your information packet. >> Yep. >> Have a good day. >> Yep. I'm on my way to the precinct now. God damn it. File me a lawsuit. Checking out, guys. Thank you. >> So, after five officers, a K9 scan, threats of a lawsuit from both sides of the conversation, and close to 11 minutes of arguing over a single request, get out of the vehicle. This entire encounter ends with a warning. Which one of these two cases got you the most fired up? Drop it in the comments below. We read every single one of them. And if you want more real body cam breakdowns like this, backed by actual court records and actual law, hit subscribe because we've got a lot more of these coming.