You said, "You're a man of the law." You really should have just stopped there. So, obviously you acknowledge the respect that should be played placed my way, right? So, I don't understand if you understand that I'm a man of the law, why and you're just a civilian, right? So, if you're just a civilian and I'm a man of the law, why you being disrespectful? I got cuffs that I can use. I'd rather you just give me your ID. I don't need to make this a thing. >> All I'm doing is trying to go home. >> You're not going anywhere till we get a little clarity, my friend. >> Okay, so what's the reason you're attacking me? All I'm going to >> You're not going anywhere. What's going to happen if you >> All right. You guys need to do a little bit better. You need to do a little bit better, okay? >> A man shopping, minding his own business, and an officer who's already decided this isn't routine. Listen to what comes next. The reason this stop goes sideways in seconds. >> What's going on, my man? >> What's going on? >> What are you doing here? You just checking out? >> I doing? I'm shopping. >> Where have you been lately? >> Excuse me? >> I got a call. I had uh a little crazy dude running around and you fit you fit part of the description at least and now I'm wondering where you've been, what you've been up to. You look a little stressed, like you're trying to stay chill, but oh, clothes. Okay, cool. Excellent. >> I don't know you, sir. That's calm, measured, but the officer doesn't hear cooperation. He hears resistance, and that's when the demand comes. >> What what do you I I don't I don't know you, sir. Like you're asking me where I've I've been. I'm I'm confused. Like what's going on? Are you looking for someone or >> [clears throat] >> I am looking for someone. Uh if you could just pop your ID out there, that'd really make it easier. >> The man isn't panicking. He's asking questions, and that's the part the officer can't seem to process. Watch how this escalates when the officer introduces himself and demands ID. >> Uh like I said, I got a call. Hold on. I got a call. I just need you to comply. Obviously these guys are shutting down the lane, so you can just have a little conversation with me. We're not slowing anyone else down. >> I don't mind having a conversation with you, but I don't know what you're doing, like what type of business you're conducting. >> Perfect. >> You're a man of the law. You know how this thing works. That line, the officer, thinks he's dealing with someone who doesn't understand the system. But listen to how this man talks and watch the officer miss every signal. >> Explain myself. >> You see what I'm doing. >> I'm Officer Johnson. I'm here to protect and to serve. I'd really like to see your ID. If you can just go ahead and hand that over. >> I'm not giving you my ID. >> You are going to be giving your ID and the more you the more you comply the smoother this will go, but >> [snorts] >> I'm not going to give you my ID. I'm You're a man of the law. You know how this thing work. I know how this thing work. I'm not You know I'm not no crazy guy. I know I'm I'm not giving you my ID. >> I don't know you're not a crazy >> I'm not a suspect. I'm not a hit suspect. I don't know who you're looking for. I don't know what your what your deal is. You walked up to me talking about >> You got a lot of say, my man. What Why Why you got all this aggression? I mean, it seems a little passive, but >> Why you got all this aggression? The man hasn't raised his voice once, but the officer keeps pushing and that's when the tone shifts hard. >> I need you to chill out. Show me that ID. Again, if you pop >> showing you my ID. >> You are going to show me ID and you You really started Hold on, my man. You said, "You're a man of the law." You really should have stopped there. So, obviously you acknowledge the respect that should be played placed my way, right? So, I don't understand if you understand that I'm a man of law why and you're just a civilian, right? So, if you're just a civilian and I'm a man of the law, why are you being disrespectful? I'm going to need to see your ID. >> So, I'm not trying to argue. >> a complaint. >> No way. >> The officer keeps saying man of the law like it's a trump card, but this man isn't backing down. He knows the language. He knows the game and the officer's patience is cracking. >> You need to stop and re- >> got reasonable suspicion that I'm someone that you're actually looking for? Please, like >> Listen, I got cuffs that I can use. I would rather you just give me your ID. I don't need to make this a thing. Obviously, as a civilian you're showing me some respect by acknowledging my place as a a authority of law, right? Now, I need >> you. >> So, as a civilian, you need to let me do what I do. >> like to be respected. >> I'm just a dude. You're just a dude. He's not intimidated. He's matching energy, and the officer doesn't know what to do with that. Watch what happens when he pushes one more time. >> You're just a dude, right? So, if you're just a dude, go ahead and hand over your ID. >> Right, I'm just a dude. >> You're just a dude. >> Who are you looking for? Who exactly are >> I'm looking for, like I said, I've got a description that you partially match. >> All right, so so so what's what's what's the crime being >> You don't need to That's sensitive information. They're trying to do their jobs. They've got this line shut down. We're not Listen. >> trying to go home. >> You're not going anywhere till we get a little clarity, my friend. >> Okay. >> Weird movements, agitated. The officer keeps describing behavior that isn't there. And then, the man says something that changes everything. >> So, what's the reason you're attacking me? >> I'm not attacking you at all. You're the one that's being defensive. I'm here as a member of law enforcement trying to do my job. Now, you're doing all kinds of weird mo- You're looking for You're looking agitated, my man. You're looking agitated. >> I'm going to keep I'm going to be real with you, okay? I've got to get out of here. All I'm going to >> You're not going anywhere. What's going to happen if you >> All right. >> Sorry about that, officer. Have a good day. And just like that, he walks away. No ID given. No arrest made. The transcript ends there. The outcome of this encounter and who exactly this man was not provided. But that crap at the end tells you everything about who won this exchange. >> You guys need to do a little bit better. You need to do a little bit better, okay? And I know you guys get hired for a reason. I know you go through protocols and everything. You get training for this stuff, all right? Dude, make it make sense. >> Sorry about that, officer. >> Seriously. >> Have a Have a good day. Okay, take care. >> Some old man, remember for tone, the dismissiveness, the assumption. Because in about 6 minutes, this officer is going to wish he'd chosen his words a lot more carefully. >> Oh, come on, buddy. What are we up to tonight? I got you sitting here in a laundromat with a big old bag looking heavy. I got complaints that you're looking suspicious. People wondering what you're clutching your bag for. What [snorts] are we up to tonight? What do we have What do we got in the bag, buddy? What are we doing? >> Why do you need to know what's in my bag? >> Because I'm getting complaints. And now I've got to come into the laundromat in the part of town I don't want to be in. >> Do I have a warrant? The first sign list isn't going to go the way the officer planned. But he keeps pushing. >> I'd rather just be circling around and making sure no one's shooting at each other. And instead I got to come in here and deal with some old man with a duffel bag. So, what's in the bag and are you going to show me or do I have to take it myself and run you downtown? >> I don't mind you showing the bag, but I won't be doing that today. >> Okay. Well, you are going to be showing me what's in the bag. I've got complaints that you are looking suspicious. You got a heavy looking bag. And so, either you're going to tell me what's in the bag or I'll just take you downtown with me. Cuz I Are there firearms or something? >> Do you have a warrant? >> Do I have a warrant? I don't I don't need a warrant if I have reasonable suspicion. >> The whole lawyer route. The officer thinks he's dealing with someone who watched too many cop shows. Listen to how wrong he is and how fast the threats start escalating. >> You need the bag You need a warrant to search my bag. I'm not sitting here. What if my socks are clogging up the state? >> I'm telling you I'm getting complaints that you're a problem or you're I'm making you a problem because everyone's saying that you're suspicious and you're down here clutching on your bag. So, what's inside the bag? What's so important? >> bag and since you don't have a warrant, you can't search my bag. >> Are you trying to go the whole lawyer route now or something? We're in the shitty part of town. You're just a random dude, and now you want to pull the law on me. Like I don't do the law for a living. >> sitting here washing my clothes. That's all I'm doing. >> Right. So, am I going to have to use my cuffs, or are you going to tell me what's in the bag? If it's a firearm, then I have to detain you and cuff you and stuff you. I got no problem with that, but if you try to get some funky business on me, we're going to go that whole route, buddy. >> I do not have anything in my bag that's not the law here. >> The young version of you, he's profiling. He's assuming, and he has no idea who he's actually talking to. Watch the subject stay calm while the officer digs deeper. >> in the bag. >> Well, that's really an interpretation at this point, right? Like you might think it belongs in the bag, >> [snorts] >> but to me, what is it? Is it drugs? Is it firearms? >> have to show me a warrant. >> If I have reasonable suspicion, which is a bunch of people calling and complaining and being fearful for their safety and the neighborhood's safety, >> Where all these people at this doing what? >> You think the people that called scared of you were hanging out in here? These are the people that I'm not worried about you messing with. These are the people like you. This is the young version of you out here causing trouble at 11:30 at night >> I'm just doing what? >> Doing what? >> Just cuz I have a bag in my hand with my clothes washing at a laundromat, washing clothes, and you decide to come up to me and start talking about how I got something heavy in my bag and that it looks suspicious and all of this stuff. >> The subject keeps asking the right questions. The officer keeps dodging. But here's where it gets interesting. The officer tries a different approach, persuasion. >> Why am Why are you doing that? >> Well, we're getting closer. We're getting closer. Is that the truth? Is that what's in there? Is it clothes? Cuz I asked you, is there drugs? Is there weapons? Is there anything to concern? And you said, "Oh, I don't have to show you law, law, law." as if you're a lawyer. Now, if it's clothes, then we don't got a problem, do we? >> Do not have to show you what's in this bag. >> But if >> I'm just in here minding my own business. >> Right. But you get Have you ever heard that you get more flies with sugar than honey? Or honey than sugar? Or whichever way it goes. Whichever way it goes, the point is if you tell me what's in the bag, I don't have to worry about you, and I give you some freedom, right? Some of those freedoms you want to tell me that you know about with the law. But if I have to take your freedom away, it's because you're making me fearful. >> I'm not doing anything. I'm not bothering anybody in here. I'm just minding my own business. >> You're making me fearful. The officer is running out of tactics, and he's about to try the one thing he shouldn't, taking the bag himself. >> You decided to come in here, walk over to me with all of these other people in here. You walk over to me and say I have something suspicious in my bag. >> No, that's not what happened. I didn't randomly come in here. We've got calls and complaints, which is the reasonable suspicion that I mentioned and now you're trying to double back on as if it is it in my corner. That reasonable suspicion is why I'm here. People are suspicious of you and they want to know what's in that big bag of yours that you seem so clutched to, because that's the type of way you hold a bag when you've got something you don't want someone taking from you, like uh illegal money or guns or drugs. >> want nobody to take this stuff from me. >> Well, why is that? >> property. >> And it's just your clothes? It's just your clothes? >> It's my clothes. >> So why would it be matters that you need to clutch on it so seriously? >> Because they're mine. >> Okay, but what does that matter? >> This is the moment the officer is about to reach for the bag, and he has no idea what's waiting inside. >> Because they're mine. Why do you need to >> Why would anybody come to the laundry mat be interested in your clothes? Like that's such a stupid point. Like Well, work with me. What are you telling me? They're your clothes? No [ __ ] >> clothes. So why would you want to take come and take a look at my clothes? >> I don't. I want to know what's in it because people are worried about the way you're not you're not doing laundry. You're clutched on it. At this point, let me just take it myself. Listen, I'm going to confiscate this myself. Are you finally going to show me? It better not be a firearm or anything bad. >> All right, sir. >> It better not be anything bad cuz I have my cuffs ready to go. >> I have >> I swear to God I'll run you downtown. >> All right, we'll show you what's in my bag. >> If there's a Slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly. Slowly. What you got like a a blanket or Oh, you got some kind of some kind of like dress or something in there? Slowly, I swear to God if there's a weapon snuck in there. >> [snorts] >> I got my hand on my I got my hand right here. Do you see my hand? It's on my hip. >> It's what is in my bag, right here. >> Your honor, the bag didn't have drugs. It didn't have weapons. It had a judge's robe and this officer just threatened to run downtown the judge who's presiding over his fraternal order police docket tomorrow. Watch the energy flip. >> Judge, judge. >> I am the judge >> Judge. >> be presiding over your FOP tomorrow. >> You're Franklin Carter? >> I'm Franklin Judge Franklin >> Excuse me, your honor. I'm so sorry, your honor. >> Excuse me, there's no excuse. I'll be presiding over the the doc- your docket tomorrow >> Oh my God. >> and I will be adding uh an assault and also threatening my body, threatening my person. >> There's no need for a complaint, sir. Like we don't need to add anything. Like we don't add anything to the docket. There's enough in the docket. I'm not >> be adding other things to the docket because you walked in here violated my rights by walking in here, walking over to me, asking to see what's in my bag without a warrant. >> And then you went to your house, your honor. I didn't know that >> Please don't add anything to the docket. The same officer who walked in talking about the shy part of town and some old man. >> Your honor, Dr. Dr. Carter. >> It's too late for that. It's too late for that. >> I'm so sorry. I >> You should know. >> Okay, I'm going to I'm going to go back on my route and I'm so sorry. I I guess I'll see you in the morning, but please please don't add anything to the docket, please. >> Hero syndrome, homeboy, cousin. The officer has already decided who this man is, but listen to the response because this isn't someone who's going to step aside. >> Listen, buddy. I don't know who you are what hero syndrome you're trying to enact for your buddy or your homeboy or your cousin or what, but I have a John Doe and it's him that matches my bolo. My bolo is for a guy that I know it's him, but right now officially it's just a John Doe. That gives me full jurisdiction, even though I know who he is, to take him down and get him investigated. And once we investigate him, I know who he is and he's going away for a long time. So, step aside cuz I don't know why you're even here. He's the guy I'm taking. He fits the description. >> Lower your voice. Leave this room. This man isn't asking. He's instructing. And the officer doesn't pick up on the authority in that tone at all. Listen to what comes next. >> I have a bolo. It's totally already taken care of. I don't need warrants. I don't need nothing. He's in the hospital and I'm taking him with me. >> First off, officer, you need to lower your voice. Second off, you your presence need to leave this room completely. >> This is not a fortress. You're not the dragon at the gate. I don't know who you are. I don't know if this is your homeboy or your cousin or what, but I have a John Doe that I'm looking for. I have a bolo. I know that it's actually him, but because it's a John Doe, you have nothing you can do to keep legally me from taking him downtown, investigating him, and proving that I know his real name. And I'm not going to say his real name because I know who he is. >> Gangbanger, accessory. The officer sees a gunshot wound and makes assumptions. He's He's building a case in his head, but the man standing in front of him, he's not flinching. >> And he knows I know who he is, and he's been eluding me for a while. But it's over. Like I have the bolo, [clears throat] it's all legally handled, and whoever you are, family, cousin, buddy, gangbanger, whatever you are, standing here with your gunshot wound yourself, you are probably the accessory that we're also looking for, the third person. I don't know who you are or why you're stitched up, but you want to be the John Doe, I'll take you down and process you and then come back and [snorts] get him when you're out of the way. So, if you want to sit here and stand in my way, we're going to have a bigger problem. >> So, you going to judge a book by its cover, huh? >> It's not a book by its cover. Why are you standing here? >> You want to [snorts] see my ID next? >> I don't want I do want to see your ID, but I To be honest, I just wanted you to step out of the side. If you don't If you don't step aside, we're going to get to the seeing your ID, processing you, but to be honest, I'm going to do all that downtown because I don't even want to save you >> The threats keep piling up. Downtown, processing, the officer's convinced he's in control. He's about to find out he's been talking to the wrong person this entire time. >> the humanity of just showing me your ID cuz you didn't want to do that, right? Or you weren't ready to show ID? >> I'm not doing any of that. >> I'll take you downtown and see your ID. If you're going to keep stepping in my way, then we're going to have a problem. Like I'm not going to have you impeding my progress on this investigation any longer. It's just It cannot happen. So, step aside or at the very least I'm going to see your ID, and then unless you're someone real important, you're going to be going downtown to make sure you are who your ID says you are, to make sure you got no record, to run your whole everything on your background. And then you know what I'm going to get? I'm going to come get your homeboy cuz I know who John John Doe is. I got the bolo. I'm not worried about nothing legally cuz it's on the up and up. He's going away for a long time. >> My homeboy. >> Whoever he is. >> This guy is hilarious, you know that? >> Unless you're someone real important, that line is about to age very, very badly. Listen closely because this is where the reveal starts. >> Oh, you people. Like now now you want to throw the you people at me. Now you people is the cops like because I have the whole legal system behind me. Now I'm a bad cop or something, right? >> exactly what you're doing, officer. Like >> I know exactly what you're doing. You're standing in front of me trying to process, get the process postponed or something, delay so maybe your friend can, I don't know, get 30 more seconds of freedom cuz he is going away. If you keep messing with my work, I'm going to get really pissed off. >> He's going to end up dead before I can get him processed. That's not just frustration. That's a threat [music] and that's when the man in the room says something that changes everything. >> See, he's going to end up dead before I can get him processed. I need him I I'm telling you buddy, I know who you are. I know who you are. You're going away for so long. Death is going to be the thing you wish for and pray for every night and every morning. >> Officer, like I said, lower your tone and leave this room. You have no reason to be in here right now. Do you not understand that? >> If I'm leaving this room, which I will soon, it's going to either be with you or him. I want him. >> Show me your ID or come with me. The officer thinks he's given an ultimatum. He has no idea what's about to hit him. >> That's the John [snorts] Doe I want cuz he's the bolo that is actually going away for a long time. You can be someone we just processed. Listen, I need to see some ID. I need you to get out of the way. If you're going to keep impeding my investigation, I'm going to have to see ID downtown or right now. Show me your ID or come with me. You have those two options. >> A federal agent working a RICO case, the same man the officer called a gangbanger and accessory, the same man he threatened to process downtown was federal law enforcement this entire time. And that John Doe the officer wanted so badly, already part of an active federal investigation. The transcript ends there. The outcome of the officer's interference with a federal case not provided. But that all right followed by silence tells you everything you need to know about who just lost the standoff. >> Officer, I am a federal informant. A federal agent. This man is under a criminal RICO case. And right now your presence in this room alone is going against your jurisdiction. Something you shouldn't be doing. I need you to leave, officer, and get the hell out this room. >> All right, I know who he is. He's going away for a long time.