It's going to determine whether you walk out of here or you go to Marion County Jail. And the minute you walk in there, they're going to put you in gen pop. They're going to tell you tell They're going to say you're in here for this. And I'm sure there's a lot of people going to want to whoop your [ __ ] ass. Meadow Brook Northbound 450 look like In the driveway with a gun point. STEP OUT, HANDS UP, FACE AWAY. GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES. FACE DOWN. ARMS OUT LIKE A PLANE NOW. READY? I got the car. Yep. Stripe 460, we're secure one detained. Stand by. 875 going 23. Yep. >> get my daughter? Can I please? Um She She is the one who called. Can I go Yep, that's fine. Go ahead. Go in there. Who's mom? I'm the Awesome. Grandma. You guys want to go in there and we'll come talk to you. Yeah. All right. Hey, no, I let him He was about two residents down and I let him off. He just said it and I saw it in my rearview and I popped a U-ey and found him. Well, I was coming I came down probably back cuz I saw you from Then he said southbound. So, I swung back around that timber and I saw him. He said, you know, Adam Simpson or whatever and I was like, B A S. Yeah. This could be it. So, This is Well, I mean, I would hold on to that and probably the phone. Yeah. Yeah, put it in airplane mode. Cuz we're going to seize it and get a pull out joke and a warrant for it. You want to start your car or what? All right. Feeling all right? Not really. I've been replaying everything through my head to find out what they could have thought. Still aware of your rights, correct? Correct. Okay. Came home. Went to Walmart. This So, this is our This is your opportunity to be honest. Okay? It's where I work with you. If if this is something that happened, this is your opportunity. Okay? I understand. All right. So, start off from the beginning again. It's all right. Same I get off work, I went to Walmart. Got stuff. Came home. Uh I had one load of laundry that was already in the dryer that I started this morning. I started another load. Uh I had my girls Hold that. You still aware of your rights, correct? >> Correct. Yes, I'm aware of my rights. I had my girls take uh take their showers, get stuff ready. I cleaned up the dishes and got dishes ready. And then I started cooking. Uh I cooked. I messaged Crystal, told her the Mount Vernon loss cuz she was watching a Vernon game. Um she said, "Dang." And I asked her she was coming home. I put the food away. And then after I put the food away, I was like essentially cleaned everything up, got the dishwasher going. I had already had another load of laundry going and I put clothes in that last load of laundry in the dryer. But I still don't understand. I'm trying to figure out like what they could have seen that they think that I had this thing in my hand or that anybody would have thought it anything other than that cord. Like if I picked up that cord, that cord got moved. I didn't have no camera. Okay. So, give me about 5 minutes. I watched the initial part of our interview. Okay. I asked you at any point if you're standing in your house with a camera in your phone. And you stated that you're by the laundry room. So, you put yourself right next to the bathroom with the camera in your phone. I didn't never say that I had a camera. So, this is what happens. So, your your mind plays tricks on you when you're trying to make up a story to cover your actions. You miss little pieces. Well, if I I didn't hear you you said that where was she at with the camera? That's not how this works. Okay? Cuz we went from walking the fine line of honesty and now now I don't even know what this is. So you're not helping yourself. In any way. Did you at any point this evening while Kennedy was in the shower put the camera under the door? No. Did you have the camera in your hand while you were standing by the bathroom door? No. Never? No. Why Why are you lying? Cuz I'm not. Okay. Earlier when you asked me that you asked me if if I had the the camera in my hand or whatever and I said I didn't have the camera in my hand but I maybe I grabbed the other cord and maybe they thought that that was it. I said I don't remember ever picking up that cord or doing anything. But I definitely didn't have the camera in my hand. So why why are your kids claiming that you're there while she's taking a shower and you have your phone and they walk up on you and see you with the with the phone and you block the phone? I don't know. You You think this is my first day? No. Okay. You're not winning. I put the cuff on you. Actually, I'm not going anywhere. Like you you you can be charged in this case. Too many discrepancies in your stories and witnesses. See what I'm saying? You know what you did. I'm giving you the opportunity. I I'm watching you on the camera while I'm on my break. You're checking yourself for your heartbeat, your respiration rate. For someone that did nothing wrong, you're pretty concerned. You sit for 5 minutes almost with your hands in your your face in your hands. Like is it hitting you? Like you're screwed? I'm I'm screwed regardless. No, you're not. The first time you told me this story, you were so close to the truth. 100% truth. Of what you did. And you know you did it. The other officer that got behind you and stopped you in the driveway, said that you were chasing after them aggressively in the car cuz you're concerned. Chasing after who? Grandma. And and mom. No, I was just driving back to my house. I wasn't trying to be aggressive or nothing. I was just trying to get to the house. I see the cop pull out by me. I knew that he was going to to pull me out. As soon as he pulled out right behind me. Like I told you I was talking to her dad on the phone. So what if I was to tell you we have a photo Kennedy took of the camera under the door. There's not a photo. Yeah. Did you do it? No. Okay. >> [clears throat] >> You seem honorable except for the portion of the lying. I don't do well with lying. I mean, I can take 5 more minutes and you can think about it again. Because with the witness statements the items located and I have your phone. We're going to friendship with dump your phone as well as your government computer. And I'm sure we're going to find what we're looking for. Might even do it tonight yet. But you know what you did. You know. It's going to determine whether you walk out of here or you go to Marion County Jail. And the minute you walk in there they're going to put you in gen pop. They're going to tell you tell they're going to say you're in here for this. And I'm sure there's a lot of people going to want to whoop your ass. All I want is the truth. I'm not asking for much. And you want to tell it to me. I can see it in your body. I can see it in your eyes. So, what's it going to be? What's it going to be? You going to keep lying to me or tell me the truth? I told you I haven't. You're close, man. You're breathing. You're breathing hard. Cuz it's sinking in. I got you. It's a simple mistake. The only law changes, ticket, out you go. Get a notice to appear. I don't them out like candy. Especially when I'm getting lied to. But, you know what you did. You know you were standing by the laundry room door. You had the phone in your hand. You had the camera in your hand. You didn't have the other cord in your hand. The witnesses state that you have the camera open with the app. And that camera cord is in your hand. And it runs right under the door. While Kennedy is in the shower. I'm not going to ask you this many more times. You've been an honorable man your whole life. Correct? Correct. Why stray now? You lied about your service. No. Then why are you lying now? What are you Towel Again.