We have procedures in place to um try to do some verification of that kind of stuff before we go ahead and cash stuff like that because of the size of the check. It's like $4,000. >> Okay. Okay. So, what what are you doing today at the banks? >> I want to talk to a lawyer about it. >> Okay, that's fine. So, at this point, you're under arrest for forgery. We're going to go to Hello. >> You, Francisco? All right. You're going to be detained right now. Okay. I'll explain it to you in a second. Okay. This is your phone. >> Is this your phone? >> Yes. >> Do you have any weapons on here? >> Do you mind if I check? >> Okay. >> I got 7831 to 10. All right. We're going to go out to my car. Okay. [Applause] closer. >> We'll come talk to you in a second. We were He just did the same thing around the corner. So, [Applause] Yep. [Applause] Are you good if I search you? >> Okay, I'm going to do that just before we get in the car seat and take a step to your go to the front of the car. That's like thing of cigarettes. Yeah. Okay, thank you. >> Come here. Just talk to him. What's up? Just let him talk to him. Just hang out with him. >> All right, Francisco. We're going to go to the backseat of my car. I have some questions for you in a second here. Okay. Watch. Um I want to talk to them first. Um you can sit here for now. Um, I'm guessing it's going to be the same as that one, but uh Yeah. So, yeah, it's the same person from over there. >> The video over there. >> Yeah, it's the same guy. >> Um, do you mind just hanging with me? Okay, thank you. Hello. >> Okay. >> Did you call or who called? >> Okay. Hi, I'm Officer Jackson with the police department. >> I'm J. >> So, what happened? Um, so, um, he came in just to cash up what was supposed to be a payroll check, right? Um, we have procedures in place to, um, try to do some verification of that kind of stuff before we go ahead and cash stuff like that because of the size of the check, which is like $4,000. >> Okay. >> So, I started by calling the people who issued the check, which are our customers, Lance, heating, and air. >> Okay. >> Um, gave them the check number and the information on the check. They said, "Yesterday, we issued that check for hundred and something dollars to Carl." That went out in the mail yesterday. So that is not correct. That is not a fraud check. >> Okay. >> Or that is not a real check. Um from there I called my uh regional managers. They said call non-emergency and we just tried to hold tight for a minute while we could get the ID and a copy of the check. Said that we just need to get it verified for some higherups and uh that that's it. Then you guys showed up. >> What was the amount in that he was trying to cash it for? >> Uh I have it in the office. You'd like to see. >> Yes. And if you have if you have a plastic bag um that you can put it in as well. >> If not, I have one. That's fine. >> I'm so sorry. I don't have anything. But this is them. Um this is the the checks there. >> Gotcha. Perfect. Okay. So, if I'm understanding correctly, he comes in, tries to cash this check for $4,864.79. You contact >> Lance Heating and they're like, "That was supposed to go to Carl and it was not supposed to be that. It was like hundred something dollars. >> That's right. They said they just put it in the mail yesterday. They said for somethingund and something bucks. >> Okay. >> Um her name uh I spoke to Alyssa at Land's Heating and Air. >> Okay. Um do you mind if I get your information? >> Feel free. Absolutely. >> What's your last name? >> And your first name? >> Jer. >> And what's your what's your date of birth? Seven. What's a good address for you or do you want to use the >> Oh, that's fine. Actually, you can I mean, here's my ID if that helps. [Applause] I'm spending time trying to like review account history just to see. And the differences between those checks and their real checks are very minor, but they're there. Um, I noticed that on their real checks, the phone number is on there, but it was not on there. And I notic >> like one of their normal checks. >> Um, well, I don't have a I I'm not sure. I know we have people come in frequently enough to cash them, but they're not that large. >> Okay. >> So, um, and we actually have procedures now like if it's over 500 bucks and we don't know you, like you're not a regular person who comes in here, then they've put things in place just to do verifications. And so, and this is the result of that. So >> are what is your position here? Are you the regional manager? >> A branch manager. >> Branch manager. Okay. >> So yeah, the security features normally I think it says something like the face of this document but not this document. So the wording on the cross is a little bit different. And uh but this is in series like this is in sequence for them. So, um, they must maybe they stole the check yesterday and then we can use something that was close to that number so that they could, you know, get >> What's a good phone number for you, Jeremiah? >> Uh, >> okay. Um, did you talk to anyone at Lands? uh specifically. >> Yeah, her name was at lands. [Applause] >> Okay. And who did you speak to at >> I didn't not anything Carl? No, they just they issued a check to Carl. That's the name that that's the real check that was 48858 was issued to Carl. >> Gotcha. yesterday and they put it in the mail yesterday, I think. So, >> okay. All right. Makes sense. I'll give this back to you. >> Thank you. >> Um, he just tried to do that up the road, so he's going to go to jail. Um, >> what I'll do is uh do you guys have I'm assuming you have cameras in here? >> Yes, we do. >> Okay. I'm going to send you a uh Have you ever dealt with like the Axon community request thing for us? >> I personally have not yet. Um, but I can, you know, whatever you'd like, I'm happy to help. >> Okay. What's a good phone number for or not phone number? our email >> um on my card here. Can I have you take one of my business cards? >> Sure. That way you've got >> that'll work, too. So, what I'll do is I'll send um a link to this and it'll be like a drag and drop thing. If you need to forward it to somebody else, that's fine. >> I will. >> But what I'd like and I'll outline it in the request is >> any video um or photos of him in the bank attempting to to cash the check essentially. >> Great. >> Um so, like I said, he's going to go to jail for this cuz he's done it twice now. >> Okay. Um, I'm gonna take this uh and all of his other items, but is there anything else that we haven't talked about that you think might be helpful or maybe we missed? >> Nothing I can think of. I think that pretty well wraps it up. I appreciate how fast you guys got here because this patch wasn't quite sure we were going to be here and I was like, "Oh, okay. Let's >> Yeah, we were right. We were right up there." >> And then they they told us they're like, "Yeah, we have another one that's just out of view." And I look on there, I'm like, "This is the same guy." So, >> yeah. Yeah. Great. >> All right. Well, thank you for your expediency. Appreciate that. >> Yeah, of course. So, um I'll give you a case number as well. >> Yes. Yeah, actually they asked me for that like a case number and your name. Um and you're Jackson. >> Yes. Officer Jackson. >> Thank you. >> I got 73. You go with the case number. 104. >> All right, I'll give that to you. My name's Officer Jackson. My badge number 783 and then that's the file or the case number >> C24362. Got >> it. Yes, sir. >> Great. Okay. Well, that was awesome. Thank you guys for being so quick. I'm about to come out there and talk to him now. So, I'll be out there in a second. >> All right. Thank you, sir. >> All right. Thanks, gentlemen. Appreciate it. I got to talk to him. But I think I should be good if if you want to head out. I'm going to take him cuz this is his second time trying to do this. We've got the check here that he was trying to cash. He tried to cash one just up the road for over $4,000. So, I can take the paper on it. >> Are you sure? >> Yeah. I appreciate you offering, but I got it. Okay. So I was talking. So this is going to be >> two separate reports, right? >> We can essentially copy and paste the narrative on them. >> Yeah. >> Um but they'll right for jury for jury. I got 78329 OC city last of Warz John Union Adam Robert Edward zebra first of Francisco common spelling middle J John beta birth male >> uh that's that yours >> where did those come from those on top of the hood Frank's fault. Is this your phone? It is. >> That's cuz >> I'm going to just throw all this stuff in the back. >> So, how do you know it's fraud joint? >> Well, they contacted Lance and they said that the numbers on that check out aren't correct. That was supposed to go to Carl in the amount of like $100. >> Oh, okay. So is that too? >> Um, 100. >> Maybe, maybe not. Not sure. >> I don't think it's a real $100 bill. I appreciate willing to take this one. So, >> that's not a problem. And plus, go ahead. Come on. >> All right. So, Miranda's going to talk to him and off to the jail. Hey, Francisco. I want to talk to you, but before we do that, I'm going to advise you of your rights. Okay? So, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law or other proceedings. You have the right to the presence of an attorney during any questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you if you wish. Do you understand the rights as I've provided them to you? >> Yes. >> Okay. I got 73, Mark, Miranda. Okay. So, what what are you doing today at the banks? I want to talk to her about it. >> Okay, that's fine. So, at this point, you're under arrest for forgery. We're going to go to the jail. Okay.