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Those guys were expected to have a problem. That's locked. Got to wait till he comes and get you, sir. Why? You have to wait till he come, sir. I'm here on official police business. I get that. I just radio for the security. Just have to wait for him to come in here to pick you up. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Why? I'm just saying that gone by the rules that I've been instructed. This radio doesn't get you. Has your union teachers union and the lawyers spoke with you? Huh? Have they spoke with you? No. We're here on official police business. I get that. But safety security is on their way to come and get you. Okay. We have authority over safety and security. Do you understand that? Columbus police. I have authority over my principal. you you do not welcome my principal to me. So she tells me got for you guys to wait. You're you're not the first one to go through this. And I'm not trying to be combative, but he told me to let you know. Let him know when you got here. He's going to let you know. And I sprayed on him. He's coming against you. Okay. Okay. Well, I'm just telling you how what I go through. Okay. But did did the union and the the lawyer speak with Did they have it speak with you? Um No, they have not. And I No. And I'm not in the teachers unit, so I know they wouldn't speak for me. Okay. Well, when we're here on official police business, well, we are over safety and security. Talk to legal about that in just a second. I will email them and ask. I will call. That's This is ridiculous. We are here in official capacity. But you're not the only one. So, I'm by what I know that I've been told by my So, if if if a teacher's being beat up, I have to ask you to let through me through the door. 100, please. Is that what you're saying? No. I need Mr. How in my office ASAP, please. So, if a teacher's getting beat up, I have to go through you to get to that teacher. That's what you're saying. So, yeah. What I was told. So if the they have an emergency here, she has to decide if it's a big enough emergency and let them know what they need to do. Are you taking them out that way? Are you taking them out? What's going on? I'm like um I'll put them in the conference rooms right now. Thank you, please. Um out of office, please. I was trying to explain to her that the Columbus police are she said we have to wait for safety and security. Columbus police are over safety and security. If there's an emergency here, I don't need to explain to her. I need to get in here and get in here now instead of go through this. What? Not according to the district rules that they give us. We have Yeah. So, if you have a shooting, she's going to sit here and and determine to let us in. That's not acceptable. This is not acceptable at all. This is not acceptable. I don't I'll let Mr. McCconor come. Okay. We are here on Columbus Police official business. I am in uniform. You have two cruisers out front. I She has to wait for for safety and security to let me in through this door. If a teacher is in the process of getting beat up or we have an active shooter, I'm not going to stand here at the door and argue with her. I don't have that. Okay. I'm telling you, Columbus police are up here. Safety and security is up here. I shouldn't have to wait to get through this door when I'm called to this school. I am here on official police business. Yes, ma'am. Mhm. We called you. So, yes, ma'am. So, I just heard a lot of I didn't I just Well, can you step back over here cuz I just heard a lot of Okay. I was in a meeting so I know Mr. How come on back over here, please? Close the door, please. So, what I'm going to do is get back a hold of with the teachers union. I'm going to get a hold of legal because what does the teachers union have to do with this? Because it seems like they're some of the only people that have pool. If we have an emergency at this school, I should not have I should not have to explain to this woman why I'm here. I don't come here for my for party time. I come here on official police business. This is a game we've been playing for years. This is a game we no longer want to play with you. You should be welcoming us. You should you called us. If you if you don't want me here and if you want me to beg you to get through that door, don't call me now. Okay. Well, I'm not really sure all that happened. But it's all on record on body cam. Well, I Okay, but I just came over here cuz I heard some noise going on. I heard my secretary having to argue or whatever was going on. What I do know is, and I want to make sure this is on camera, too, we felt a lot of disrespect by some of the members of the Columbus Police Department, including yourself, sir. What just transpired here, I do not know, but we definitely did call you today. How did we disrespect? Oh, at one point in time, the one of your colleagues and just even your demeanor right now, your demeanor is off. So, we did call you cuz I'm not into playing games. I'm not into playing games either, sir. So I'm not either, but we are going to follow the district protocols and so forth and so on. Today you were called because a scholar made this threat which he said he was just playing. So Mr. How contacted you and so now you are here. Miss Nash was doing her job. I don't know if she knew you were coming or not. I don't know what transpired. I did. Okay. She knows we're coming here for a reason. I should not have to beg. No, don't argue. Don't don't argue. So, Mr. How asked me, he said, "And CPD gets here, let me know." And as soon as I saw them on the camera, I called for him and said, "Your guest have arrived." Nobody, if there was a situation would have been warranted that it was immediate or whatever, I would have been I would have been told, "I'm the first point." But that wasn't the case. the case was when they get here, let me know. And that's what I did. But then I get combative because, oh, I need to go through blah blah blah. That type of situation. Well, then the other caveat too that we've been told from our district is that you that the police don't just can't just go all over the building and do whatever you want to do. That has been established, too. Now, if it was an active shooter, that's something totally different. But that's not what's going on right now. But there are rules and protocol. So if a teacher is being assaulted, so if a teacher is being assaulted, so there was a breakdown on that too, which Mr. How and I discussed as well. But the assault had already taken place. But nonetheless, the teachers called. So they were the ones who made the phone call and then they had already given information over the phone as to the scholar. Now it gets back to me that allegedly I stopped information or whatever. That's not true, sir. You and I only talked once. When I came back, he said, "I will not provide that student's information." You asked me, "Was he going to be suspended?" I said, "I cannot share that information with you." And walked away. That was the only conversation you and I had on that day. In in the last two years, I know you have refused to provide the district protocol, but that's not your protocol. Now, are you are you to give me that student's information? Now, it depends on what the situation is. Are you to get in and depends on what the situation is? Not for me. The teachers are to give that. They were the ones who called. You are the principal. Well, that's not how it works. They were the ones who called. You had the conversation with them. So, they were to give you They were the ones pressing the charges or the assault charges or whatever the case might be. That was not Natalie James or Bridge View Middle School. They had that conversation with you. So, that was over there. You and I only talked briefly when I stepped out of my office. So you you have constantly said refused information. Are are you are you denying that? I'm I followed district protocol and the only reason and to be honest I do not feel comfortable even interacting with you right now. The only reason why I came out because there was something going on in the office and I stepped over here because there was some there's some arguing going on over here with my secretary. We have safety and security for a reason. I personally do not feel comfortable even speaking with you to be quite honest because of the way that cuz I believe that you do not even have my safety in mind. So I'm just I'm just being very clear. Okay. And as an administrator, can I give you my feeling? You, for some reason, you don't like the police and you want to make make things so difficult for us that we don't want to come to your school. And listen, I listened to you, did I not? You did. You are. And I don't know what in your life happened that you hate us so much that you don't want to cooperate, but the teachers union and I've talked with them. you. I'm gonna pause you because I'm gonna pause you because it's not it's not going to be a back and forth. I don't have any hate towards the police or anything like that. There are some who come over to Ridge View who are just fine, but all of this and escalatedness and so forth and so on, I'm I do not feel safe. I don't feel comfortable. But because I'm the building principal and I heard what was going on, then I came on You don't feel safe right now? I do not. Okay. Well, then why don't you go back to your office and hide and say so Mr. How did you provide him with the information? I'm going to walk out and [Applause] I can only give you Yeah, just give me the top half and that's fine. I need name, date of birth, and his contact information. Let me give you like and that's what we had not been provided in the past. So that's actually a benefit for us today because we were the ones who called the school. We called from our end. been willing to do that before. So now there has been some changes. There has been some changes and you've been forced to give us some information that we've needed. You never have. This is a first for you. I'm impressed. May I have your badge? I do not have provide you with a card. You write that down. And we can play this for whoever you want. and we can play this tape for for the the union and who else ever wants to see it at school board. So, I appreciate your time. Yeah, Larry's got to tear it off. He can't give me the bottom information. [Applause] No, that takes too much time. Well, you're really supposed to write it down, but Do you want to write that down for us, ma'am? As the principal protocol, you're the Okay, you're the highest pe person. Why don't you give it to her and write it down for us? I will walk out with you and write it to you. Are we doing anything with this? No, the students already been sir. We I would check this book bag. I check this box.
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