Tuesday, December 20th, 2022, Melbourne, Florida. Five days before Christmas, most people are focused on holiday plans and last-minute shopping. But, 23-year-old Shadella Johnson is focused on something much simpler, getting to work on time. That morning, she finishes getting ready, says goodbye to her father, Ty, and walks out the front door of her home on Colbert Circle. What she didn't know was that [music] someone was waiting outside for her, an uninvited guest. >> Melbourne 911, what's the address of the emergency? >> Colbert Circle, Melbourne, Florida. >> What's going on there? >> Colbert Circle, um, Melbourne, Florida, somebody been shot. >> Are we getting a pulse? All you guys got to stand back. I know, I know you guys want to Uh, it sounds like there's going to be a suspect. Hey, does anybody on the street HERE HAVE CAMERAS? >> [screaming] >> THAT YOU guys know of? >> Just come over here with me, okay? >> [music] [music] >> This is 23-year-old Carlos Lamont Jones II. On paper, he had a fairly normal upbringing. Raised in a stable home, he was later described by his mother as obedient, respectful, and loving toward his sister. Standing 6'3", Carlos was a gifted athlete who played football and basketball as a youth throughout high school. His talent earned him a scholarship to play at Highland Community [music] College, a Division 1 junior college program in Illinois. At that point, his future appeared promising, but that's where his path began to change. During his year at Highland, Carlos struggled to fit in and eventually left the program after a single [music] season. He returned home claiming the environment just wasn't a good fit. Upon returning to Florida, he worked as a laborer at a local manufacturing plant, but was later fired. He then found work at a Walmart distribution [music] center. According to those who knew him, he didn't seem to be building toward anything beyond that. He wasn't continuing his education, learning a trade, or establishing a long-term career path. That drift became a source of friction with his father who felt his son was capable of much more. Shouting matches followed. The disagreements escalated until one especially heated argument ended with Carlos being kicked out of the family home. Suddenly, he found himself without a place to live, no college degree, no trade skills, and no clear long-term direction. That's the space he was in when he met 23-year-old Shadella Johnson. According to those who knew her best, Shadella Johnson had a habit of seeing the good in people. She was the kind of person who wanted to help, to lift people up, and to give others the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, the wrong person saw those exact qualities not as a gift, but as an opportunity to exploit her. She met that person in July 2022, and his name was Carlos Jones. Just weeks in, Shadella learned he was living out of his car. Returning to his family's home wasn't an option. The tension with his father had left a bitter taste in his mouth. So, rather than walk away, Shedella did what came naturally to her. She tried to help. Her best friend, Tamia, later testified that Shedella saw Carlos as a wounded bird. Someone struggling, someone who needed support. And Carlos, according to those close to the couple, knew exactly how to present himself. He played the part. Abandoned, misunderstood, just in need of someone, anyone who wouldn't give up on him. Before long, they were living together, but the relationship quickly soured. By the 5-month mark, arguments had become routine. Still, Shedella, ever the optimist, held on to hope. "He has a pure heart," she told her friend, "underneath the ugly, broken shell of a human." She wanted to believe that. But, the verbal abuse and controlling behavior grew harder to ignore. She began to realize the person she thought she could fix wasn't the person she thought he was. The breaking point [music] came 4 days before Thanksgiving. What happened next would expose just how toxic the relationship had become, and was a harbinger of something far more dangerous waiting just around the corner. Sunday, November 20th, an argument between the couple escalated until Shedella grabbed a kitchen knife and warned Carlos, "Don't come any closer, or I will hurt you." Police arrived on reports of a disturbance, and Carlos stated he feared she would cut him. Shedella didn't deny it. The circumstances leading up to that moment were disputed. >> [music] >> Carlos called it an assault, but her words tell a different story. Someone trying to keep a threatening person away from her, not go after him. Either way, officers arrested Shedella for aggravated assault. 9 days later, prosecutors dropped the charge. The records don't say why, but a quick dismissal usually suggests concerns about proving the case. What matters here isn't the arrest, it's what it represented. The relationship had gotten bad enough that police were now involved. Shidella ended the relationship and moved in with her father. Carlos, however, wouldn't let go. He bombarded her with calls and messages, hostile, [music] relentless, vulgar. She ignored every single one. She thought about getting a restraining order, but she had just started a new job she loved and didn't feel right asking for time off so soon. She put it on hold. She never got the chance to revisit that decision. Exactly 1 month after the police incident, Shidella stepped out of her front door to find Carlos Jones standing in her driveway. He was angry. He had blocked her car in and he was armed with a 9-mm firearm. As Shidella attempted to return to the house, Carlos opened fire. Inside, her father heard the shots and rushed to the window. By the time he made it out the front door, Carlos was gone. His daughter was lying on the carport floor. >> Hello, fire rescue. >> Yeah, we need the ambulance out here. >> Okay. And where is here Where are you? >> Yeah. Lincoln Circle. >> Okay. And which kind of which one? >> Uh somebody been shot. That's all I can tell >> Okay. >> I don't have to go. All right. Do me A FAVOR. CAN YOU CLEAR THE parking lot? Clear the parking lot. Excuse me, sir. I got >> That's my daughter. I got her going on the parking lot. >> All right. I got her laying her down. She's secure. Got her. Got her. Got her. She's secure. Got her. Got her. Hey, sir. Do me a favor. Get everybody out here. I'm trying to help her. Sorry, go ahead. We're still getting that. My wife is not getting suspect. >> Who was here? Who was here when this happened? >> I wasn't in here. I wasn't here. >> Even I don't know. Uh looks like a doorbell. >> I don't know. >> Anybody? >> Don't know. >> We're trying to get a suspect information. Can you get >> [screaming] >> Hey, who did this? >> I can't get a description of him. >> Hey, sir. What's going on? Who did this? Come talk to me. You got a pulse? That's it. YEAH, THAT'S IT. >> [clears throat] [screaming] >> I UNDERSTAND. >> THERE YOU GO. >> I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE TRYING TO HELP HER. >> There you go. >> What happened? How long did it happen? >> There you go. >> I was there ever since you just HEARD THE SHOT. >> HOW MANY SHOTS did you hear? >> I heard about 10. I heard about 10. >> 10? >> Yeah. >> Do you know who you had to call 911? >> I didn't see THE CAR NUMBER. >> [laughter] >> PROBABLY GETTING A PULSE. PULSE? >> WE'RE TRYING TO HELP. >> ALL YOU GUYS GOT TO STAND BACK. I KNOW I KNOW you guys want to Uh it sounds like there's going to be a suspect. >> I didn't see anything. >> Those are all to the back, right? >> Yeah, no no exit wounds. >> Okay. >> I have multiple gunshot wounds to the back. >> Okay. >> I have no idea. Um I'm assuming I don't know. >> Okay, can you do me a favor? >> Yes, man. Yes, sir. >> Everybody out here is >> Okay. >> I'll go inside with you in a minute. >> Okay. >> You know what? If you want to switch with me, right? getting Hey, watch your watch your legs. >> Yeah. >> I need to talk to you. Ty. >> Hey, does anybody on the street here have cameras that you know that you guys know of? >> I got 30 guys on the suspects finding >> Huh? >> Come here. >> We'll feel it. Okay, so what is it? >> Ty, come on. Over here. Ty, please. >> Hey, how we doing? >> It's Ty. Ty, come over here with me, okay? Ty. >> We're going to put John Collins What was his name? >> John Collins. >> Shadela is rushed to a nearby hospital where, despite life-saving efforts, she is pronounced dead. Back at the scene, officers secure the area and go to work. They canvass the neighborhood knocking on doors, pulling surveillance footage, looking for anyone who had seen anything. And they found one, a nearby worker who saw a car flee the scene immediately after the shots were fired. >> They shot somebody? >> Yeah. >> You killed them? >> You don't know yet. >> It's not looking good. So, the car, just so I'm clear, where did the car It came from this side? >> It came from that street and went off down So, it's a black Nissan, black black all black rims, black tint, and black car. >> Did you Did you notice if it was an Altima or a Maxima? It was an Altima? >> Yeah, they came out from that street and turned on to that way and took off that way. >> Like a new one? >> I would probably say maybe like 2014. >> Yeah. >> That's about accurate. How you doing, Officer Helms? >> I'm good, man. >> Crazy morning, huh? >> It's a good one. I'm about to get some coffee. You know? >> I was the man that was walking around here maybe getting everything started, and six shots, bam bam bam bam bam. This is crazy. >> Yeah, man. From Palm Bay East. Yeah, I'm going to have some people come talk. You guys going to be here all day? I appreciate it. Yeah. Thanks, guys. All right, let me get back to work and I'll send somebody over. >> [snorts] >> Moments after the shooting, a black Nissan sedan was captured by a Flock camera leaving the area at a high rate of speed. Investigators confirmed it was registered to Carlos Jones II and a bolo was broadcast to surrounding law enforcement agencies. At around 11:00 a.m., Carlos walked into the Palm Bay Police Department and surrendered. But he didn't arrive asking for a lawyer. He arrived ready to talk. What's striking about the interview is not what Carlos says so much as how he says it. It's mere hours after taking the life of a 23-year-old woman and he appears calm, relaxed, and surprisingly conversational as though the events of that morning were already behind him. >> I want to know another agency is going to come here. Just to talk to you and kind of get an idea what happened. >> I'm I'm going to be sitting right here. This ain't like the thing I've seen on like >> Oh, yeah, this ain't no crime. This isn't like yeah, television, man. >> [laughter] >> Unfortunately. >> Damn, I should have just instead of doing some wicked stuff, I should have came and worked for y'all. You know what I mean? See? Like I would have been cool with catching suspects, you know? >> Mhm. >> I want to find out >> I want to find out what happened to her. >> Well, as soon as they get here, then we'll go from there. >> Yeah, I want to find out what happened to her. >> Okay. >> I got to go to bed in like 10 minutes anyway, so Where the lady cop at? >> Who? >> The lady cop. >> The one with all the cats? >> Yeah. >> Uh she's floating around here somewhere. >> I want to talk to the lady anyway. >> Um let me see if I can find her. >> What's that? >> Alyssa, >> just wanted to talk to you. >> Oh, okay. Go for it. What's up? >> What happened this week you were You were from >> I'm a bunch of stuff. >> For real? >> Yep. >> Is that your only tattoo? I don't think I have >> No, I have multiple. I have like eight or nine. >> For real? >> Mhm. Yep. >> So, you don't know what you know about what they tell you? >> We would We just got little bits and pieces here and there. We don't even know everything. >> For real? >> Mhm. You said you're 23? >> Yep. How old are you? >> Mhm? >> How old are you? >> Old enough. >> Would you date a 23-year-old? >> [laughter] >> No. >> I'm >> him. You don't have to date him. You don't have to >> No, in general. That's just a no. >> No? >> No. >> I'm mature, though. You can't tell. >> [laughter] >> You could be. >> And you seem to chill. I would take you on a date. >> All right. >> I really would take you on a date, like I promise you. >> What would you do on the date? >> Free dates. Beach, and probably like sip some wine at my place. >> Yeah. >> I would do that. Yeah. Definitely. Well, you got that nice black hair, too. >> Thank you. >> I ain't even trying to boost you up right now, like I'm serious. >> No, you're good. >> Wish I would have met you before. >> I mean, it's a good thing that you didn't. >> Why? >> Cuz it usually would have been, you know, usually when people see me, it's, you know, they're being arrested. >> I'm talking about in like grocery store or something. >> In a grocery store? >> I would have definitely approached you in the grocery store. Definitely. >> I'm flattered. >> What's your favorite color? Red? >> It is. >> Really? >> Yep. >> For nearly half an hour, the detective lets Carlos talk. No accusations, no pressure. He hasn't been Mirandized yet, so the actual reason he's sitting in that room isn't discussed. The conversation wanders, his upbringing, small talk, and some awkward attempts at flirtation. The detective is building trust, and eventually her patience begins to pay off. As the conversation shifts to personal relationships, Carlos makes a revealing admission. >> Does your sister get along with them? >> Uh >> Or not so much? >> Yeah, she do. >> I mean that she lives with them. >> he got along with anybody else. >> Hm? >> I never really got along with anybody. >> In your family? Or just anybody you meet? Why? Take your time. >> What's up? What you say why? >> Yeah, why? >> I got a personality that changes. Like it changes. >> You mean like as you grow or, you know, different people? Different personality. >> Just a different personality. Like >> You don't have one best friend? Other than your cousin? >> Nah. >> No? >> Nope. >> Nobody that you kick it with or >> Nah. >> Just talk to? >> When I say I lost everybody, I lost everybody. >> When? Like at what point? >> What point? When I got back from college. >> When you got back from Illinois? >> Yeah. >> Did you keep in touch with anybody when you were gone? >> Yeah. >> Oh, you didn't? >> Yeah. >> And you came back and things just changed? >> Yeah, they all changed, so you know, it is what it is. >> Yeah. I get that. >> Here, Carlos describes feelings of isolation. That's not unusual. Plenty of people struggle with loneliness. What stands out, however, is how he explained it. Notice what he doesn't say. He doesn't say, "I pushed people away." or "I made mistakes or I changed. Instead, he externalizes blame. A short time later, the Melbourne detectives assigned to the case entered the interview room. As the female detective stepped out, the tone changed almost instantly. The casual conversation was over and the homicide investigation was about to begin. >> Video, you had to go back and get credits? >> I didn't. They just let me pass. >> Well, that's good. >> Hello. >> How >> You Carlos? >> Yeah, I am. >> Carlos, I'm Tom. First time here. >> What's going on, Tom? >> Tom, this is Jessie. >> Hi. >> How are you doing, Jessie? >> Is that on you? >> Yeah, it does. >> Okay. All right. >> My phone picking other stuff in it. It don't even matter. >> They give you some snacks. What kind of snacks? >> Yeah, they hooked me up with stuff. They hooked me up. Two bags. >> So, we're we're detectives from Melbourne. And we're down here to talk to you. [snorts] You came into the Pomona Police Department. They contacted us and that's why we're here today to to talk with you. Um you came down, you are in handcuffs. Um because you're in handcuffs, I'm required to read you Miranda. So, I'm going to go through all that so to let you know your rights. I'd love to answer your questions about We'll get to all that. I'll I'll you know, try to answer anything I can and give you that platform and and and we'll go from there. I'm going to read you from a card. Um pretty standard. You watch TV, you see Miranda rights and all that. Have you seen that before in the past? Yeah. >> No, I get that you Yeah. >> When was the last time you were at work? >> Today. >> Today? What time did you leave work? >> Uh like 10 something. >> 10 o'clock? >> I think so. >> 10 o'clock? This morning or last night? >> This morning. >> This morning? Um What time did you check in? >> At work? Around 10:00, I left from the the place or her house and I went to my crib. Then I went from there to work. >> To to her Whose house? >> Shadela's. >> Shadela's house? What time did you go to Shadela's house? >> I went to her house. I don't even know. So, I don't like 8:00, I think. 7:00 something. 7:00 something. It had to be 7:00 something, I think. >> Was it This was and then So, I'm I'm just trying to think of what were you You said you left at 10:00. Today you were at work? >> No. >> Or you Or last night? >> Let me break it down for you. I I left around 7:00 something. Shot Shadela. And then from there I went to my house. >> Okay. >> And then from my house I went to work. >> What made What brought you down to Pompano Beach? >> I said what I mean I don't know. I >> Did you did Did you in your own free will I mean did you say, "You know what? Maybe it's a good idea I come down and >> You know what? I think I do. I had to just think about it. My mom called me and I was waiting to like go into work. My mom called me. She was like, "What's going on, dude?" She said, "They they said uh Now, don't don't quote me on this because she she didn't say this exactly. You know what I'm saying? >> Somewhere around what she >> Yeah, somewhere around that area. She said, "Somebody told me uh you killed my sister or or your son killed my sister." And so, I was on the phone. I said, "Who told you that?" And then I like I knew I did it, but this like you know you know what I'm My mama called me. I I wasn't expecting my mama to just like >> How the heck did she find out? Like who did she know? Who talked to her? Did she tell you what who talked to her? >> She said Well, she said sister, so her sister. >> Your mom's sister? >> No. >> Uh >> Some the Shadeala's sister. >> Shadeala's sister >> Not my mom. >> called your mom and she and said that >> Yeah, she she asked me and then I just told my mom I said, "Yeah, it did happen." >> So, you told you told your mom that you did shoot her. >> Yeah. >> Okay. You know, you just told me there's there's a there's been a fire inside of you for a long time. And you know, people don't just do something for no reason at all. So, let's let's talk about that. So, how how long you've been you've been dating Shadeala? >> Going on 5 months. >> And who How did you guys end up meeting? >> I met her at Aldi's. She used to work at Aldi's. >> The Melbourne one or >> The one in Rockledge. >> Oh, the Rockledge. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um she was What did she do there? >> Well, so she was she would just be uh at the counter checking out people and then she'd be at like the shelves. And I would come in there and like grab my stuff, you know. I might say something here and there. I might be like, "Yo, I like your nails." You know. Another time I come in there, "Oh, you ain't got your nails on." You know, just like like sassing up a little bit. >> Yeah. >> And um So, I had broke up with another girl. And I don't know what it is about when I when I like break up with with a girl cuz my relationships with like everybody is just it's not good. >> Okay. >> So, it's like girls see that and they just attracted to me for some reason. And you know, it is what it is and she seen and Shadeala seen me across the store. And she had a She she peeped me and I looked at her with both caught eyes. >> Yeah. >> So, she went and walked up the the stove, and as I was getting my stuff to walk out, and I was like, yeah, she wouldn't even talk to her. So, she walked in front of me. I said, "How you doing?" She turned around. The first thing she said was, "You got a girlfriend?" I said, "No." That night we met up. We went to like the little river. >> Mhm. >> And from that point, uh from that point, we was together every day. And like everything was just everything was good till it wasn't. >> When did it take the turn? >> Um the night she pulled a knife on me. >> That was a couple weeks ago? >> November 20th. >> Where Where was that? Where did that happen at? >> At my apartment. >> In Cocoa? >> Nah, it happened in Yeah. >> West Melbourne, right? I think you had the address on West >> If If you want to know why, You want to know why? >> Yeah, yeah, please. >> Uh So, I was supposed to go with her that day, the the day prior to that, to see her friend that went off to the military. And uh she went off to the military, and I was supposed to go with her that day, but I was with my cousin for the whole day. And uh I'm coming back home. It's like 7:00. I'm coming back home, and I and I think she was mad at me for something I said to her. Like, I guess I was being insensitive, and she was upset about it. And so, I'm like, okay, cool, whatever. I'm just, you know, go on and let her just, you know. So, I come. She's still mad. So, I'm coming home, and I got her location. So, I'm checking her location, and she gone. She had to go see her friend. Now, my I'm supposed to be with her. >> Yeah. >> And uh So, I said, "Whatever. I ain't going to text. Boom. From 7:00 to 2:00 when she came back, no text. And you know, she was out. Boom, she walk in, went straight to the shower, turned the shower on. Now, who knows what happened from 7:00 to 2:00. That's Y'all, that's business. Not my business. Uh, so you know, I just got right up. I was like I was I was angry. And I told her, walked into the bathroom, said, "It's time for you to go." And you know, so she moving her stuff out. She like, "What you mean?" It's time for you to go. She moving her stuff out. She moving slow. So, I started moving her stuff out, too. And she was living here with with you at the time, the West Palm? She was. >> [snorts] >> And uh, so I'm moving her stuff out. And she like, "So, if you if you She say, 'If you don't put my bags down, I'm going to show you what violent is. I'm going to I'm going to show you how I get crazy.'" I blew it off. Like, I don't like what you saying. So, I keep throwing her stuff out. I keep putting her stuff outside. And uh, I hit the wall because I was I was angry. There's still a hole in that wall right now. So, I'm putting her stuff outside. And she said again, and I still like, you know, I never put I never touched her. But I I still was putting her stuff outside. And so, she said, "Okay." She walked to the kitchen and grabbed that grabbed a knife. >> Okay. >> And then she coming at me. You know, now I felt I I feel threatened whatsoever. Um you know, but I just needed her to be out of that house. And she was walking towards me and I had already was walking outside. And then she said, "Didn't I tell you if something happened I would take a PC with me?" And so, boom, as soon as she said that dropped her bags and just grabbed her wrist and we out there um on the the little apartment balcony apartment like, you know. >> Yeah. >> And uh >> [clears throat] >> I take the knife from her. I go back inside, lock the door, call the police. Easy. You know, and so it was smarter of me to do that. >> Yes. Yeah. She ended up getting arrested? >> She got arrested. >> Did you end up dropping the charges? >> I did. >> You did? So, when did she get out of jail? >> Two days later. >> Two days later, okay. So, after that did you reach out to her? Did you Were you trying to get back with her? >> texting her. Yeah, I was texting her a lot. Texting her, texting her, texting her, texting her, texting her. >> Was she responding to you? >> No, she couldn't. She would She would She would do like I told her, "Let me know we still locked in. Change your profile picture on Instagram." She changed it, but she didn't communicate with me. Like she wasn't supposed to communicate. >> Okay. >> But I was. I ain't going to lie, I was texting. >> Well, yeah, I hear you though. I mean, you're the victim. She's What is it? Court The The judge told her no contact with you, not to Okay. >> But so she's been She was kind of honoring that, not responding. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, you you went to Shedela's. What happened when you went to Shedela's? >> I got out of the car. I said, "You I said um you can't answer the phone." And she she like did something. >> Where was she at? >> She was at her house. >> Did she Was she in her car? Did she in a parking sitting in her car? >> Yeah, she had got out of the car. >> Did you call her and tell her you were on your way or did she just show up there? >> She was there. >> Okay. [snorts] So, you showed up, and what happened? >> And I got out, walked up, and she said She said, "What's up with you?" And she like did something and just walked started walking. That's when I started firing. >> Which way was she walking? >> Towards the door. >> Towards like her front door? >> Yeah. >> And you you started shooting at her? >> Yeah. >> How many times did you shoot her? >> Um I don't know. Probably like 15. Like what do you mean? >> What were you thinking was going to happen after that? >> What do you mean, like after >> Yeah, after after after it happened after you shot her, what were you like what were you thinking? Was it just >> y'all was going to catch me because the gun I bought the gun registered in my name. The bullets registered in my name. I still You know what I'm saying? But you know, why not go to jail? >> But what what like um when you were planning it out, when you decided you made the decision, all right, I'm going to go and and I'm going to shoot uh Shadeila, like what what was going through your mind? Did you think that Did you have a plan? Like what were you going to do, or how were you going to do it? >> I wanted to get her dad, too. >> Okay, what stopped you? And what made you >> not there. >> Okay. If he was out there, would you killed him, too? >> I don't know. Probably. >> You've met her dad before? >> Yeah. >> How many times? >> Once. >> How long ago was that? >> Months ago. He told me uh I was Me and Shadeila was going to We was going to the the the the the mall in Orlando. And uh he just looked at me and was like, "Take care of to daughter." And so, I was like like we we was just looking at each other for a little bit and then I smiled and I was like, "Okay, I'm not shooting you, Sam." And that was the the the the the only time I met him. >> At what point did you make that decision? Like like, "Hey, I'm I'm going to drive there. I'm going to shoot and kill her." >> Well, because >> When did you make that decision? >> Okay. Because [clears throat] I think I don't I can't answer that. I don't know. But I knew I I I just got angry because she told me about whatever everything her dad had said. And I was and I was not wrong for for anything I did. I was not wrong. You know what I'm saying? So >> Did you buy the gun back on Monday when you when you went to get it and waited that 3 days, did you buy that with the purpose of shooting her? >> No. >> What did you buy it for? >> Just to have it. I like guns. I had and and you know I had a gun before, but I sold it because I was living in my car. I needed money. So I would have already had my gun. I just >> But what what made you like what at what point did you realize, "All right, I'm going to I'm going to go and shoot her." Like when did you make that decision? Was it days ago, hours ago? >> Uh I I literally just I literally woke up. >> You woke up and >> I was asleep. Woke up. And it was just just I just woke up. >> And you made the decision that I'm today's the day I'm going to go out and yeah, go through then. >> And I was and I and and you know, I don't know if you believe in God or not, but I prayed about like, you know, trying to like and it's not to say that he the one that that caused it, but I I'm I I did it. >> Yeah. >> You know? I woke up and just said, "Man, you know, really what else I got to lose, so >> If you could go back and do today all over again, would you have done it again? >> Would I do it again? >> Would you do it again? >> If I'm being honest, I probably would have did it with her dad. >> And not her? >> Both of them. >> Both of them? Okay. >> One of the more chilling aspects of the interview is that Carlos never fully explains why he harbored such animosity towards Shadella's father. He mentions being angry about things Ty had allegedly said, but never provides a coherent justification. What he does make clear is that his anger wasn't limited to Shadella. By his own admission, had circumstances been different that morning, her father may have been a victim as well. >> Some people have remorse. Some people feel bad about what they did, and some people say, well, they stick to their guns and they're like, well, this is a decision I made for whatever reason, you know, for the anger, for being upset, and so that I want to know that. I want to know was it something, you know, did you do you have remorse now? Do you feel like, hey, you know, maybe I should have thought about it more, or do you feel confident in what you did, and you're satisfied with it? >> Remorse like >> Remorse like I shouldn't have done that. I took somebody's life. Somebody that I loved. >> You know what I'm saying? I think maybe I think maybe when I'm sitting in prison, I think maybe that's when I'll like feel it, but right now I don't feel nothing. >> I understand. That's a lot to process. I get it. >> I'm not I'm not crazy, though. Like, don't think I'm crazy. >> No, no, no, no, no, not at all. I just like I said, I'm just looking for details, that's all. >> You think I would do that? You think I'm crazy? >> I don't think you're crazy. >> What do you think? >> You're pretty damn smart to me. >> Like you're officer. Thanks. >> Listen, do I If you wanted my I I >> [snorts] >> You wanted my honest opinion, do I think this was a bad decision? Absolutely. Absolutely. But, it wasn't my decision. It was your decision. >> Can I get out of these cuffs? Cuz like it's like I'm not I'm not going to do nothing. >> No, no, I understand. I was We're going We're going to wrap it up here in a little bit and and we'll try to make it a little more comfortable for you. Were you on any medication, drugs, alcohol when this happened? And this was a decision you made on your own? Nobody's help? >> Nobody. >> Did anybody persuade you, convince you >> Nobody. >> uh promise you anything for doing this? >> Nobody Nobody promised me. Nobody convinced me. Nothing like that. >> Okay. >> This was This was me. >> So, as I said, we'd be straight up with you. Yeah, yeah, you obviously you're in handcuffs, so you know the deal. You know what's going to happen. Um you know, you're going to be charged with it. I mean, you you made the decision to do it. >> Yeah. >> You know? And I think you owned up to it. And I appreciate that. And like I said, there's always There's always a story. And whether or not we don't all maybe agree with it. We don't think that it's justifiable. We don't but that's a decision that you made. And I think you were able to explain why you did it. You know, I I I can't relate, obviously. You know, I've never had to deal with that. But, um you know, I appreciate you talking with us. I appreciate you You know, I'm sure eventually, like you said, you're smart enough to know I'm sure when you're sitting in Yeah, in jail, you're going to be thinking about it. And who knows what's going to happen, you know, a couple days from now or whatever. >> Yeah. >> By the end of the interview, Carlos had done more than place himself at the scene. He had confessed to carrying out the murder, drew a map to the recovered murder weapon, and said he would do it all over again. Officers said they were able to find Jordan's clothes in his apartment dumpster and the murder weapon in the storm [music] drain. Carlos' statements left prosecutors with an exceptionally strong case and little incentive to offer significant concessions. Carlos was arrested and booked into the Brevard County Jail on charges related to Shadeila's murder. In September 2023, more than 8 months after Shadeila Johnson was killed in her own driveway, a jury returned a verdict of guilty on the lesser included offense of second-degree murder while discharging a firearm. The jury might have passed on the first-degree premeditated charge, but the conviction they handed down still carried a life sentence. At the end of the day, Carlos Jones is going to spend the rest of his natural life looking at the world through steel bars. Carlos Jones is a terrifying outlier because he doesn't fit the expected profile. He had no criminal record, no documented history of violence. By most accounts, he was raised in a stable home and given opportunities that many people never receive. Whatever jurors ultimately concluded about premeditation, the evidence showed this was not a chance encounter. Carlos armed himself, went to Shadeila's home, and confronted her outside as she prepared to leave for work. Minutes later, she had been shot multiple times. And perhaps the greatest tragedy is that Shadeila's kindness became one of the very things that drew her into his orbit. She saw someone struggling and chose compassion over judgment. She offered support where others may have walked away. Those qualities were not weaknesses. They were among her greatest strengths. Sadly, they were also Carlos was able to exploit using them to gain her trust before ultimately taking her life. A promising young woman saw someone she thought she could help. Months later, he was standing in her driveway with a gun. Sometimes the most devastating crimes begin not with a stranger's ambush, but with a betrayal of our humanity. >> [music] [music] >> Hey.