can you take your hands out of your pockets for my safety I don't have any weapons on me sir can you okay can you can you check them cuz I don't know what you cannot just check me you can't do that you can't take your hand out of your pocket so I know I'm safe you're here to protect and serve the public correct yeah I'm serving and protecting them from you from me this is private property sir this is not private property this is private property this is not private property they don't want you on the property any longer or you're causing a disturbance to the business and what they're doing you're going to have to go there are people who persistently think that they know about a subject even though they have no knowledge about it in this video you can find a handful of police officers who do not understand the law at all but insistently claim that they do an independent journalist named Shawn was peacefully exercising his constitutional rights at the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission when security called the cops putting him in an unexpected position the fact that the police officers not only only did not know the difference between State and private property but insisted that they did made us question their knowledge of the law once again today we're at the Motor Vehicle Commission here in raway New Jersey we're here today as always to peacefully exercise our First Amendment right to film in public and publicly accessible areas to promote transparency and accountability within our government and to ensure that our public servants recognize our rights and treat us with respect you can't record on this you're recording yeah cannot record there's a sign right here yeah I saw the sign turn it off please who are you I'm the supervisor turn it off please supervisor for what for the motor vehicle turn it off I'm going to get security and the police you can get whoever you want ma'am turn it off why are you getting so upset excuse me ma'am why are you getting so upset set wow got get off can't be on the phone over here who are you I'm an officer officer and I work here officer Gonzalez yeah and you're not allowed to be officer Gonzalez you know I could use a little less of that attitude you got there she telling you to stop you're acting a little bit extra yeah respect what she's telling you okay do you here are you going to take a test H how does respect equate into what I'm doing cuz she's telling you to turn the phone off I'm all right so think about your logic here office in Gonzalez I could tell you respectfully just go about your way and go back to doing your job because this is my job this is private property your job is not to tell me what to do yeah private property that's no your job is not to tell me what to do your job is to do whatever it is else you're supposed to do I'm not sure what your job Ina goes with it to to tell me what to do no no you have private property though this is not private property telling you not to turn the phone on what what you was recording I'm recording everything that I can anything that I can are you taking a test or somebody else is taking a test well I don't have to answer those questions you guys are both you know coming at me with real it's real you guys are being disrespectful not me no you being disrespectful she's telling you she's but I don't have to listen to her and I and respectfully I don't have to listen to you or her ma'am I don't you want me to callway police you can call whoever you'd like yeah I don't have to listen to them either Mr Shawn speaks with a lot of respect even when the police prevent him from exercising his constitutional right to do so but the same cannot be said for officer Gonzalez no the police are not going to come and get me I don't have to listen to them either ma' what are you recording then I mean honestly what are you recording you right now yeah you have to respect what she's telling I don't I I I don't have to respect what especially when she's telling me something that I don't have to do what did she tell you she told me to stop recording what what what is you doing here but that's like me telling you anything I I would never I would never dare I would never dare at this point I don't want to answer any questions at this point because of the test because of the way you both have came up to me and treated me I don't want to answer any questions at this time ma'am are you taking a test I told you I don't want to answer any questions man test I just told you I don't want to answer any questions call police if you don't want you can I mean ma' I'm not scared of the police the police are here to protect and serve me so that's their job description she made good on her promise to call local law enforcement so let's see if they educate her on our constitutional rights or not hopefully that's the case how you doing sir what's going on hey how are you good good what's what's happened uh nothing just taking some pictures and video and officer Gonzalez and some other people seem to not like that a lot soy well this is private property sir this is not private property this is private property it's not private property yes it is private property it's not private property it is priv I did it I did I looked up the surveys before I came here and this is not private property no the state this is owned by the state of New Jersey which means that which is private property you're saying that the State motor vehicle is part of uh this private property no it's owned by the state which means that it's public property sir I think that's ridiculous that you would say that this is private property when it's owned by the private property it's who's it owned by state by the state yes okay so you saying any any place in the state you could go there yeah go there any any any state any part any any State Property that's not restricted yeah I can go there she saying it's against their policy for anybody to be so ma'am let me get this straight this doesn't make any sense because officer Gonzalez you call him because I'm in supposed call the supervisor okay the supervisor called him because I'm in supposed violation of a policy you're not policy enforcement sir right you don't enforce policies you're a law enforcement yes I'm not breaking any laws well this is private property that's that's this is not private property it's scary that you would think that this is private property sir really can I get your name and badge number please right here withs y Withers yes thank you Hi how are you ma'am good how are you doing good can I get your name and badge number please sure I'm officer can you take your hands out of your pockets for my safety oh my hand in my pockets not again not for your safety yes it is it's for my safety sir can you take it's a little chilly out here I don't have any weapons on me sir can you okay can you can you check them cuz I don't know what you cannot just check me you can't do that you can't go in my pockets I don't consent to searches or seizures Hey sir take your hands out of your pockets you can't tell me to take my hands out of my pocket what it's not against the law to keep my hand in my pocket it's cold out here it's a little windy out here know you have a weapon I don't I'm telling you I don't I'm not going to show you my hands man because it doesn't that's not against the law talk to you you can't you can't just search people what's wrong with you can I speak to a supervisor please yes we got call one thank you appreciate it they automatically on YouTube I guess it can go wherever yeah I know that's what I figure you do go you one those guys to try to recore cops or whatever put on YouTube Instagram and everything I if you have been given a constitutional right as a citizen and you want to use it you can use it why does exercising a constitutional right make me a premium or a news seeking anti- police money Hunter the only reason why this video is shared in this thread is the police themselves but they never look for The Fault in themselves I didn't call you here I didn't call you here nice that's what you do and you shouldn't and you shouldn't and you shouldn't have any problem with a man exercising his right me a motor vehicle yeah I mean the motor vehicle but sir you're YouTube that's I don't know but all I know is that that is a problem that officer's actions is a problem you can't just go up into somebody's Pockets you can't do that she tried to you tried to if I didn't I backed away it doesn't matter you you have a weapon so you have a weapon you have a taser and a gun do I you do right you all have weap you all have weapons here you all have weapons here except me I'm the only one without a weapon I'm the one with the camera and you guys are terrified I have a camera too also yeah should I be terrified of you because you're recording ridiculous am I supposed to be terrified of you yeah you are terrified of me cuz you tried to go in my pockets I didn't trying to go in your pockets you tried to go in my pockets I don't know what you hey Sergeant how are you Sergeant hey sge I can speak to you for a minute his hands out of his pocket well that you got to do for my safety and if you want to speak to me take your hand out of your pocket so I know I'm safe and you're safe but sir you have four officers five officers here I care it doesn't matter I've done this for a long time they're asking you to take but you can see that I don't have any weapon yes you can yes you can does that look like does that look show me your hand then no but it's it's it's a power thing I'm not going to entertain that part it's a power thing it's a power power thing I'm asking to see your hands the way you can see M and you can see what's in my pocket you can I'm not asking to see what's in your pocket I'm asking to see your hand so if I took my hand on my pocket and I put my hand back in my pocket if you want to put it back in your pocket the outside of your pocket to make sure there's nothing in there so do you want to take your hand out of your pocket or would you like me to Pat I like I I I don't consent to any searches seizures I would like I'm not taking anything from you I'm going to make sure I'm safe they're safe everybody safe what is wrong with you everybody isfe anything wrong with me you asked to talk to me yeah so now I'm here to talk and I'm here to complain excuse me let me speak please I'm here to I see your hand out of your pocket I'm here to issue compl exct take your hand out of your pocket let me speak to your supervisor I am my supervisor I'm the road supervisor no you're there's there's a lieutenant above you he's on he's on the desk he's not on the road so if you want to go inside we can go speak you are you are giving off a horrible example for your Police Department because my hand is my hand out so I know everybody's safe I don't know everyone I don't know you but yeah you have a gun he has a gun he has a weapon do with it my hand's not near my gun so all I'm asking you I don't have a weapon it doesn't matter so you should be able to call people you should be able to talk to people to have their hand in their pocket that's not and one if you want me to Pat it and then I can be sure there's nothing in your pocket okay well but then I'm not going to speak to you till I know what's going of course the police officers were outraged that the citizen knew and defended his rights and conducted a completely unlawful search on him on security reasons what this policeman persistently fails to realize is that this is a public place and people can record it in accordance with the law as long as they do not obstruct anything it is also unacceptable that the police as a result of their power and ego are so persistently defending what they do not know and trying to portray someone who is not a threat to them is dangerous so what's the deal with is he here for any testing we don't know okay he just walking around recording I ask he can I get your name and badge number please sure it's Sergeant Deon my name is y n138 Sergeant D I'm my name is Sean I'm an independent journalist I'm working on a story here at the Motor Vehicle Commission for what do you have their per like do you have their permission to be here did you supervisor I don't need their permission to be here this is public property it's not public property in that sense it is public property it's public property if you're here to conduct business if not they can tell people they don't want to service them or they can't be on the no they can't do that yes they can they can't do that you're wrong I've spoken to the the motor vehicle commiss we're going to go speak to their supervisor since over they on their way we'll find out if they don't want you on the property you can go film from off their property this is public property it's not public property public property it's public so everybody can come here DMV government property is public property the way they don't want govern property is them uncomfortable and they don't want you here so you can kick me out of your police station can I I have to or if there's a problem if I'm recording recording what if I'm recording inside okay then so I can sit here and record this that but that's my department not your department it's the people's department they are saying they don't want you on the property that's going to be their decision to sign complaints against you and do that that's fine I mean that's where we'll take it since you don't want to and you'll be violating my rights and then I'm going to hold you accountable I promise you that okay well I will hold the Motor Vehicle Commission accountable hold whoever you want why are your officers so scared why do they scared no but why why does your officers come up to me and say get your hand out of your pocket get your hand and then try and go into my pocket she attempted to go inside of my pocket I had to back away from her but nobody went in your pocket away from you sir cuz I was I didn't know what you had in your sir sir you should listen you should really get another job if you're going to be so scared if you're going to be so scared you you should get if you should get if you're going to be so scared you should get another job man maybe work at a bank or something where's the where's guys where's the supervisor that runs this so we can decide whether they want him here or not yeah whether you're going to get a lawsuit or not that's that's that's that's cuz you don't care cuz you're not going to pay it it's not about that if they're telling you how long you how long have you been in law enforcement off that you're scared I'm not scared of anything you're scared of me my hands in my pocket I am scared because people have things in their pocket sometimes ridiculous ridiculous and then the most people that don't they say sure check my pocket and we move on You' ever been a law enforcement have you ever seen have you ever seen someone commit a crime and while they're filming yes oh my you're people have phones they film everything you're asking me a question I have seen film things and what they're doing is a crime and they get charged later or charged during it and sometimes it's used for evidence I don't know what to tell oh oh yes I've seen those too they're they're called law enforcement officer body cameras that's what they're called you're asking you're right Law Enforcement Officers body cameras is the one that films she went to go get them sir you have your ID on you I didn't commit a crime so I won't be handing that over today okay what what is your name sir I I told the sergeant my first name Sean can you tell me your last name because I gave you my last name for my oh no no no I just don't give out any private information unless I've been suspected of committing a crime I no said you committed a crime said you is if they that they don't want you on the property any longer or you're causing a disturbance to the business and what they're doing you're going to have to go that's what we said we never said you were committing a well you asked for ID so I just wanted to make sure if I was committing a crime cuz I don't hand over ID unless I'm committing a crime sir you're going to get run over by a car I'm not scared like you ma'am oh okay all right when we going to be on YouTube I don't know yeah I don't know couldn't tell you okay got to edit it first right not this part not this part no you don't you know what that all the parts of me walking around not doing anything but the parts of you guys acting this way that's going to be scared of scared okay yeah let me go uh yeah make sure you speak to the boss of make sure you speak to the boss of the entire Motor Vehicle Commission so that way they don't make any errors what's the name of your group you'll figure all that out cop haers no that's what it's called I train police departments oh you do yeah oh cool where police departments come on to my my Channel at their Police Department yeah I'll send you the video you got to email I'll send you the video name someone oh yeah sure I can but I can send you the video of me training police I could I can send you the video of me of working I work with the police what department I just don't work with tyrants and people who are scared yeah and people who are scared of to and try and bully people you like to bully people no no no you came up to me and told me to take my hand out of my pocket that's you bullying me I think you're bullying all of us no you came up to me and told me to take my hand out of my pocket that part will be edited out no this whole interaction between you guys oh the whole ma'am you got out of your car and tried to act super aggressive I don't know if you're overcompensating because you're I don't know what you're doing no they're not no one's scared no one's scared of my actions no one is no one's scared of my actions you're here to protect and serve the public correct yes I'm serving and protecting them from you from me from a camera afraid of you ma'am you're afraid of me are you afraid of me ma'am was afraid of you you're afraid of me that's what I didn't come here yeah on my own Merit I came here because we were called here is scared okay that's fair enough you no one's scared of me you came here for a call right I'm here exercising a constitutionally protected activity that's your job to uphold that but it's not that's your job to uphold that I'm not harassing you I think your logic is floyed you came up to me and said get your hand out of your pocket the video will speak for itself okay the video will speak for itself you came up to me and said get your hand out of your pocket I didn't say ma'am take that gun off your holster did I okay sir for my safety take that gun off your holster immediately right I didn't say that because that would be what escalating and we need to deescalate the situation not escalate it gotta man with his hand in his pockets I'm scared ma'am take your hand out your pockets please take your hands out your pockets it's a safety concern for me see how ridiculous it sounds okay sir gotcha the sergeant is speaking with a supervisor the Motor Vehicle Commission hopefully they don't make a big mistake here officer what's so wrong with someone taking pictures and video public what's wrong about that what's what's scary about it well apparently I guess you went inside the building you recording people oh yeah I've done it before I've done it before in the in New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission and law enforcement came out and they got educated and everybody we learned that this is a constitutionally protected activity and we went about our day and it wasn't a big deal there's nothing wrong with taking pictures in public it's called holding government trans government account able exercising a First Amendment right be a group no be a group I don't have a group I'm by myself I'm not part of a group no but you say you're a journalist I what I'm independent you're going to publish this under what independent independent I mean I'm word for myself correct sir yeah there's there's various sources where I publish various sources I don't think it's a big deal to you know you should respect them my rights right you guys took Oaths right when you to when you went into the when you finished your Academy you put your hand like this or you put it on the Bible right and you took an oath to uphold the United States Constitution from both enemies foreign and domestic right took an oath I take that seriously I didn't take one but I take it very seriously we the people deserve to exercise our rights peacefully I wasn't being disrespectful to anyone here until someone came up to me and started you know screaming for me to take my hand out of my pocket and attempt to go in my pocket but other than that I was you did it's on camera it's fine that's why cameras are amazing I'm not you are you're a tyrant you're not a bully you're a tyrant officer you're a tyrant I'm I came here to expose you you've been exposed officer Maloney and my job is complete now you've been exposed as a tyrant I should pull all your body camera footages and and post them all over and see see what we can find go cuz I have a real bad feeling that you're a tyrant you've done this before you violated people's rights before I guarantee you okay I'll go to your apartment right Department right after this and record and request all your body camera footage now review it or We the People okay sir supposed to treat the public with respect courtesy respect you're not supposed to treat the public the way you are can you do me a favor I'm over here talking to my partner can't interrupt my conversation I don't I don't want to interrupt step away from me you want to film over there film me but don't get any closer to me I'm speaking to my partner it has nothing to do with you right now everything that talking about everything that you're talking about in public is my business closer to me thank you everything that you're talking about is my business sirer so this is public property like I told you before if you want to have a private conversation I suggest you go I suggest you have go in private and have that conversation sir Sean I don't know about your 10 followers or whatever you have on your line but don't you you don't have any business in my conversation you're Tyrant sir and I like I said if you have a conversation you would like to have your tens and tens of followers My tens and tens of followers very a professional Sergeant I'll be issuing a formal complaint against you and your officer and officer Maloney I will be and the people will hold you accountable I promise you that the tens and tens of followers and subscribers it's a pleasure just got to be less scared not not everybody wants to hurt you officer you can find the link to the original video in the description don't forget to like the video to defend the constitutional rights of citizens and to expose corrupt police officers like this one take care and stay safe