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Southbound on Taylor Loop Southbound on Taylor [Music] Loop [Music] South 1522 be too fast for these CS [Music] okay okay we we have have Captain Mike Hager TR a commander uh this is in regards to the coral Clayton McDonald uh Captain Hager um one thing that the board noticed in the Ops interview uh was a question in regards to uh he mentions that nobody ever discussed with him uh the pursuit on October 3rd or October 4th as far as were critique uh Captain are you aware if if that was done sit down with corpal McDonald on this particular incident or uh I would have to ask the sergeant about that specifically um we had a casual conversation about it and I formerly the best of my memory okay I was under the impression that that question with Ops was about anything prior to those or to that Pursuit as for as that he had never been questioned or counsel about well I think he did a to the board that yes he he did not uh you know receive feedback on those others as well that's incorrect okay and we actually had more than one conversation with Clayton uh about the one Pursuit specifically that comes to mind where he was going down I believe it's fair Park parallels University and extremely yeah I think I remember you remember that one um and it's uh he was very high rate of speed going down a narrow to lane road we called Clayton in and talked to him about that at that time I gave him a letter of warning on that particular Pursuit um after council with major Foster on it and we specifically explained to Clayton we showed him the video and told him said that you know it was 3:30 in the afternoon their neighbors kids in the yard you can see them he's in the next well over 100 going down City street and we explained to Clayton in that particular video or that particular Pursuit it's like we're not talking about you losing your job if the kid steps out or someone backs out of the driveway it's like we're talking about you going to prison literally going to prison in this you know day and age and he I mean it was driven homes myself and Lieutenant sheer of course you know Clay on SWAT and he you know and Jeff told him he said that's concerning because I got I know that you you're capable of making good decisions on the team it's concerning that you make a decision like that in a in a Pursuit and we have to know that you get it we have to know that you understand and he was very apologetic after that seemed to be remorseful saying you know it's one of those classic things which we've all done and again Ben for the doubt that hindsight go back you watch it like oh man yeah I got caught up in the moment whatever so um but there was uh that formal counseling session with us in Clayton and there's been multiple between his sergeant and uh I know Lieutenant sh's had several conversations with him as it relates to issues you know within Highway Patrol versus how that can correlate the SWAT and problems that might create so and on this particular uh Pursuit he was notified that or this the two back to back on October 3rd and 4th he was notified that there would be a asp50 down on those so I never had a counseling session with him on that because we did the the 50 but I know his uh and I can't remember if it was Bobby or no it was AJ AJ had Sergeant Johnson had a conversation with him on that on those two and just told him he's like you know this is a problem and he and Clayton offered up his reasoning behind why he did what he did and uh he and Sergeant Johnson called me and basically said I talked to him and I and I just he said I just told him that in light of the video and in light of or the two videos and and with you know previous history that you've had plus the letter of warning so I don't see any way that you're there's not going to be a 55 on this he said you know and anyway I don't have you talked to Sergeant Johnson no sir we haven't we we've talked to Clayton and of course you and uh one question he did have Captain Hager that that form that you have there in front of you um and this is more to to provide him feedback I think major hubber can sit down with Captain rhs and just get him those clarification he asked about on that form I think it was line 17 maybe if there's an aster I've never 21 I didn't know we had this okay I don't know if Ops have you seen that so this is this is nothing that that you TR Bay generated no sir I've never seen form actually I would love to have this on all of our Pursuits I've never seen it okay well major H that'll be an Ops generator form okay uh if you'll let fake know that that we have no idea uh what that means um I'll get with Ops on that okay the only one the only thing I can think of on that one July 18 uh my guess would be that's one I wrote him a letter of warning on okay that but that's again that's just a guess I can go pull that and see but it may be in this file the L orang be on I don't think so oh no it would then the crash was uh you talking about where Clayton hit and sign no that one there was never any house piece well no he wasn't onat he was responding to a vcat call he was responding by a fingerprint scanner he was going to take fingerprint scan is it not in there I see I can uh my laptop's right outside if you want me to grab I would have it on there no and that's just a guess but the letter morning that I written I would say that's close Okay December of 18 that's a good help so because we we thought maybe the form had been generated by tro Aid U major Hub just will do followup just to make sure we give cayan clarification on his questions uh you you provided a good amount of insight for us um yeah we're we're trying to keep things uh within a time constraint sure anything else uh Mike that you think you know I always feel I need to tell you Clayton is a top shelf Trooper he's a meat eater he's he's got a lot more positive than negative attributes unfortunately if he has an Achilles heal it's it's driving and he's he's that guy that he gets locked in on he's like a heat Miss he gets locked in and he he struggles with being able to rain that in I mean he's a got to get him got to get him and you know 0 times 100 that's an awesome virtue to have as a c unfortunately when it comes to driving it's a it's his downfall but I think trouble that drive you know was you know he played football forever and he was on that offensive line or defensive line and he's he's going to get that guy and I think that's part of what like you say is a positive but also in this in this particular area it's a negative yeah but he's he's a great guy does a great job and unfortunately that's just that's you if you can find out who does mik Mike thank you for your input yes sir thank you oh yeah