[music] >> Yes. >> Where's your son? >> Can I show you? >> How old is he? >> 15. >> Okay. Where He's not with you? >> No, they're outside. >> Okay. >> twins and my 15-year-old. >> Well, let's just go this way. You said they're out there? >> Mhm. >> Where at? >> In the car. >> Okay. Yeah, we'll find out where the car is and I'll go make contact with him and let him know. You go ahead and join him. >> Do you have your ID? >> Are they coming in here? What are they doing? >> Well, I don't know what's going on now, so >> Okay, can I see your Z's, please? >> Do you have your ID? >> Yeah, that's not mine. That just came out of there. >> So, what's this stuff at the bottom here? How old is your daughter? >> My twins are 9. >> Okay, how old is your daughter? >> My twins they're 9. >> Oh. Oh, so twin daughters. I thought you said twin sons. >> No, I have a 15-year-old son and then the twins are boy girl. >> So, how old is the oldest one? >> 15. >> Okay. Um there's kids in the car though, so where's the car? >> Which car? >> Um where's the car at? >> I just told him he can move it. >> He's 15. He can't move it. >> Well, to the front. >> He's 15. He still can't move the car. What kind of car is it? >> It's a black suburban. >> What What kind of suburban? Okay. The 2014 Where on the This side or that side? >> I don't >> We're going to go find your kids no matter what, so we need to find them now. >> What are you going to tell them? >> We're going to tell them the truth. >> Well, I know, but I need to know what's going on though. >> You don't know what's going on? Okay, where's your car at so we can find them before he gets charged with a child neglect? Stephanie. >> Yeah, they just told me your license is suspended indefinitely. >> No, my license is not suspended. I just spoke to them on >> So >> Tuesday about it. >> So my dispatch just ran your number here and said your license is suspended indefinitely. >> But I just spoke to Seminole County on >> That doesn't matter. You have to understand so and this is an ID card. We can't drive on an ID card. Well, I'm telling you you don't. >> Yes, I'm looking at you. >> So as of right now dispatch said you don't have a license. So this was your old driver's license. Yeah, this one's no good. >> This one's no good. This one was issued in 2019. >> got that. >> You just got this one. >> Yeah. >> No. You didn't. You got this one in April. >> 2019. >> It's it's suspended. >> Is that your husband? Kids there? >> My husband took the kids to the car. >> What's that? >> He's in the lobby in the lobby. >> Oh, okay. >> He's in the lobby. Yeah. You want to speak to him? I don't know how they're going to speak to you or >> Can I Can I find out what what are the charges? I mean >> Well, so as of right now we're we're conducting investigation. So there's just some unpaid items that Target reported. That's why we're here right now. We're in we're investigating that. Pardon me? >> The groceries? >> Yeah, yeah, yes. >> What is the amount that they're >> I I don't I don't We haven't we haven't gotten to that point yet. This is this is just this all just happened. So >> So before I ask you any questions, I'm going advise you of what are, okay, Stephanie? Or sorry, Melissa. You mind if I call you Melissa or Melissa? All right. So, these are your rights. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say may be used as evidence against you. You have the right to talk to an attorney and have him or her with you now or at any time during questioning. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to represent you. Obviously, we were here because loss prevention saw something happening on the camera. Right? Do you know what was happening on the camera? >> I don't know. Like the sun My kids kept calling me. I kept getting phone calls. >> Okay. So, >> It is possible I may have mis-scanned. I don't know. >> So, I'll tell you this stuff on the bottom was on the bottom when you went to the restroom and never came out. And then you finished paying for whatever you paid for and then you went to walk out the door. So, this stuff here definitely did not come off the bottom of the buggy and get scanned. And then once you pass the cash registers, and you go to walk out the store, you're passing out points of sale and without paying for items. Is there a reason this stuff didn't come out to get scanned? >> I didn't think my card would go through. >> Okay. So, >> I haven't been grocery shopping. >> So, did you try it at all or attempt to try to pay for this stuff? >> Well, no. I got to go get the teacher to do I didn't have it. >> Did it work for the other stuff? >> [snorts] >> Yeah. >> Okay. Why didn't you put this stuff back if you didn't think it was going to >> I completely forgot it was even at the bottom. I >> You bought this. If you knew you didn't have enough money, why would you buy this instead of buying food that you could have paid for like mayonnaise and whatever these chips are and everything else, but you bought this and not that? So, when you're sitting here telling me that you didn't have enough money, I mean, they don't they don't need a glass jar. >> It's for a project that's due Tuesday. Well, is the a more important or food more important? Now, well listen, have you ever been arrested for shoplifting? No. Any anything like that? >> No, never. >> Once they come out Go back and use the bathroom. Okay, is anyone else out here right now? >> No, just kids. I'm staying out here. >> I mean, okay, if you want them uh she has to take you come in here anyway. So, if they wanted to >> stand in here, they can for a minute. >> Where did the other two go? >> Used bathroom. >> Okay. >> That's where they're going. >> I just want to search your trunk. I don't like being lied to. You lied. You lied. >> What happened? >> You drove. You moved the car. >> Why did you do that? >> Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. You moved the car. >> You didn't Did you move the car or not, Ethan? >> Yes, I did. >> Just give us a second, okay? You can stay out here if you want. They're going to be a few more minutes. Okay. Just give me a second. >> His is suspended. >> His license is suspended? >> Yeah, for insurance. >> Okay, so you don't have a license. >> And I don't I don't know if they gave it back to me. >> So, real quick. You guys were in here last week. Did the same thing. You were wearing a white and red jacket. You're wearing the same similar clothing, same purse, same everything. So >> Last week? >> Yeah, last week. Yeah, driving the same car. Same car, same everything. So >> did something? >> Yeah, with you. >> No, what did I do? >> You pushed the shopping cart out and didn't pay for it. >> He's never done that. >> You did the same thing. Yeah, it's on video. You got 330 some dollars worth of items. >> taken anything. My son has never taken anything. >> Well, he did. It's on video. >> What did I take? >> He's never >> A whole cart full of stuff. >> What? >> You So, you sit here and act surprised, but yet you you lie after lie after lie. >> I'm not lying to you. >> But you said that last time. >> No, he's never taken anything. >> I think he's talking about the cart with all the stuff that you got, but I pushed them, I'm pretty sure. >> Yeah. >> That's what you mean? >> I mean, I Yeah, he pushed it past all points of sale out of the store. So, he is assisting you in shoplifting. >> [snorts] >> I didn't know you didn't pay for any of that. >> Was it in bags? >> Nope. >> No. >> What? So, you you can't walk away >> I had receipts. Hold on. >> Listen, we're not playing that game. >> I had a receipt. >> We have video. I'm not playing that game. >> I'm not playing it. >> Right. Stop. What I'm telling you is all on video. I I know what you did or did not pay for. It's all on video. They have it all on self-checkout cameras. They have all the cameras on each aisle. So, we know what's paid for and not paid for. They already have the total of $330. >> But my whole cart is not paid for. That's what I'm >> I didn't say it was the cart. I didn't say it was the whole cart. I just said a whole shopping cart full of stuff. And the total that was stolen is over $330. But understand that you are now going to have charges brought against you for the same thing. Yes. Yes. This is where bad decisions comes into play. Okay? You're not going [snorts] to jail, but understand that you're going to have to deal with this, too. Okay? This is not a slap on the wrist. You know, you get to walk away scot-free. You guys know what you're doing when you come here. >> I I had no idea he didn't pay for that. >> I I promise you I didn't. >> me he wouldn't never >> Okay. >> He I >> Just like he told me he didn't drive. Just like he told me a bunch of other things that aren't true. So, listen, just stop. You pushed a shopping cart out with stuff that's not paid for. You're telling me you didn't know it was paid for. >> didn't know that. >> Right. Right. But he's with you. Did he see you pay for it? >> I really I rarely pay attention when she's at the checkout in stores. >> Well, maybe she paid for it. >> Why would she to check me out stuff? >> He's only 15. He's never done >> All right, he's 15. He's a young adult. It's less than a year. When's your birthday? >> November 20th. >> Right, so in November he'll be old enough to drive a vehicle. Right? Not that he is going to drive a vehicle, but he'll be old enough to drive a vehicle. So, that comes great responsibility. >> He doesn't know that I only started doing >> I'm in financial trouble. In the last 3 months. So, that's he doesn't know about it anyway. >> Right, but there's other ways around things and and this is not the way to to to fix that. And again, you're I mean, some of the stuff you're taking you try to do a fraudulent return. Like this is this is not the way to handle it. >> I trust me, I know that. It was for groceries. We haven't gone grocery shopping in over a month. >> You went grocery shopping a week ago. >> I mean, no. That wasn't a full grocery shopping. It was all I could get. >> You you went bought food, right? You went grocery shopping. >> Yeah, but >> I go grocery shopping for milk. >> A month or something. I'm at the grocery store to buy milk. >> It's grocery shopping. >> Um, I meant like where you only go like twice a month. >> No. I haven't gone in 5 months. Grocery shopping. >> And I mean, you're 15, almost 16. So, understand that ignorance of the law is no excuse. You know you're not supposed to be driving, you know you're supposed to pay for things when you enter the store. Like you you know these things. This is common sense. So, to say like you don't know like Listen, you you would know when people are taking stuff. >> Sorry. >> Right? The putting the bag, tying it on the bottom, and putting it on the bottom of the cart, and never making any attempt to pay for it. >> He doesn't know. He doesn't know. He wasn't here. >> Well, no, I'm saying for stuff like that. Like that kind of amount. >> Right, but that kind of amount is not you you can't overlook that. >> [clears throat] >> And they were in the store with you at some point today. >> No, only her. Only my daughter. >> Okay, somebody was. I just saw the two of them. I don't know who it was. >> I mean, you're at $500 total in two two weeks. You go past $750 it's felony. $500 so you're close to almost a thousand. That's why not that's not the case right now. What I'm saying. You got to understand that you can be or there's certain amounts that you can get charged with a felony. >> Dave Chappelle >> Um >> I didn't do anything wrong. >> All right. So you've been trespassed from the store also? >> It's doesn't go anywhere between the sheriff's office or what? Between the sheriff's office and Target. >> I'm just letting you know that if you if you come back to the store here, this one in Palm Coast, you will be subject to arrest. >> Okay. >> They know what you look like. >> [snorts] >> Don't come back. >> All right. Kids are headed out of the parking lot now, so you're going to be going with me, okay? We'll place them under arrest. >> Wait, can I get all my stuff? >> No, you can just take that. Need a bag? All right. Go ahead and put your hands behind your back for me. >> Can I put my jacket on? >> Pick it up. I don't know if you're just trying to hide your face. Do you have any joint problems in your shoulders or anything? >> No. >> She came for bacon sir. Or bacon bites. >> I I usually Who that is? >> It's another fraud person. So we got the kids out of here cuz I don't like to have kids in a parent's handcuffs. You have a good relationship with her so we're not going to give you anything right now. Just go ahead and have a seat in there. Turn sideways a little bit. All right. I'm going to grab the seat belt. Can you hit that button for me, sir? All right. And since you don't have anything prior, uh you're going to be able to bond out later, okay? So What's that? Yeah. Yeah, everything short of uh domestic issues for that you have to go see a judge in the morning. Narcotics, guns grenades, anything. You can keep that. I'll just take that phone with me. What else? Anything?