Yes, and I'm not driving, though. So >> Okay, you are the car's on and you're in sole possession of the vehicle now with the car on. >> I just stopped in this car. >> All right. So, the front of your car is warped out. It's got to be it's just beyond 12 inches from the curb. That's why we're talking to you, okay? This is a 2-second long conversation. We can have this It takes 2 seconds. >> I feel like that's harassment, like >> Okay. >> People wearing masks with two handguns and >> Look, man, you have You have better things to >> We're going to go to that. If you would just show us your insurance, we can't just stop our investigation right now. >> This is a motorist in Illinois sitting inside his vehicle directly in front of his residence, running the engine purely to keep the heat on. However, he is abruptly descended upon by officers demanding his driver's license and proof of insurance. Instead of a benign parking reminder, the badge weaponizes a Chicago Housing Authority CHA loitering ordinance and a 12-in curb clearance violation to launch a full-scale dragnet >> harassment. >> All right. Do you have a driver's license on you? >> Yes, and I'm not driving, though. So >> Okay, you are the car's on and you're in sole possession of the vehicle right now with the car on. >> I just stopped in this car. >> All right. >> I got the heat on. >> Okay. You can chill all you want. And we're just conducting our investigation and we're on our way. >> What What investigation? >> All right. So, we're not going to go back and forth with this. I already told you. Do you have a driver's license or no? >> Yeah. >> All right. Do you mind if I get it? >> I do. >> Okay. >> Why do you need it? >> me with your name and date of birth, then? You don't have to give me your license. What's your name and date of birth? >> I feel like y'all harassing me cuz why do you >> you. We're talking to you cuz one, your car's sticking all the way into the street. We're just talking to you. Two, we just asked you, you're sitting in the car, you're driving. >> I'm not driving. I'm sitting in front of my >> on? >> I'm sitting in front of my house. >> Yes or no? >> With the heat on. >> Okay. So, the car is on? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, do you have a driver's license and do you have insurance? >> Yes, I got a driver's license and insurance. But what makes y'all >> just going to So, the front of your car is warped out. It's got to be it's just beyond 12 inches from the curb. That's what we're talking to you, okay? This is a 2-second long conversation. We can have this It takes 2 seconds. >> Oh, I feel like that's harassment, like >> Okay. >> Like, why is y'all pulling up on me talking about my driver's license, bro? Take your camera out. I'm recording though. Like, come on, man. >> Thank you. Do you have insurance also? >> Yes. >> All right. Is it on your phone? >> Yes, on my phone. >> Okay, you can pull it up. I'll run your name, all right? Show him. >> I'm recording, bro. >> So, there's a lot of police in the area just cuz there's a lot of robberies in the area. So, >> So, what makes you think that I'm sitting in front of my crib and y'all just came and harassed me? >> We're checking the CHA property. >> I feel like y'all just seen me getting in this >> an ordinance that So, there's an ordinance about loitering on CHA property. So, that's why we get out and talk to people on CHA property. If that makes sense. We need to find out where you live, where you live. >> I I just came out this door. >> I don't I didn't know. So, that's why I'm having the conversation with you. If that makes sense. >> I don't just I'm like >> That's why the signs are up sometimes about loitering on CHA property. It's >> It's not It's not loitering. >> But, we don't know if people live here or not. There's a big problem in the city with people hanging out on property they shouldn't be at. If that makes sense. >> I feel harassed. >> That's fine. I'm going to leave my cameras on, okay? >> Like, that's harassment, like, come on, man. >> You don't have your FOID or CCL on you, do you? >> No. >> Pardon? No, did you show me your insurance? No, he's showing me >> No, it's on the phone. I just want to >> Okay, well, provide us with your insurance, and we'll be good to go. >> Why do I got to inform you of my address? >> an operator of a vehicle, so we have to check if you have insurance. >> I'm not operating a vehicle. >> Yes or no? >> Yes. >> She can record if you feel comfortable. Tell her to record, and then you can pull up your insurance. >> Why do I Come on, why is y'all doing all my My license came back >> Yes, but you still have to show us >> want to stop my video. >> Okay, then why don't you your partner >> record >> Yeah, record. So >> I I want my video. >> Okay, well >> Is it that big I'm not driving. >> So, do you not have insurance? >> I do have insurance. >> Okay, can you provide us with your insurance? >> of paper maybe with one that was valid at some point. >> Uh no, I got to stop my video and pull it up on online. >> Okay, well >> And I don't want to stop my video. Can I Is it a bigger problem with the I'm not operating a vehicle. >> Well, we need to You got to show us insurance. Yeah, that's part of the law to have insurance to operate the vehicle. >> I am not driving the vehicle. >> but still the the sign I don't know if you want to film it through through That's That's kind of what I was talking about earlier the weathering and seat. That's why we get out and talk to people on CJ duty. >> I just came out of this house. >> don't know that until I talk to you. >> Does that make sense? >> Can I walk in there and show it cuz this harassment like >> your insurance? Is it yes or no? And you have to show it to us. >> Okay, you show us your insurance then you'll be good to go. >> If I don't want to stop my video. >> Okay, well then find another way to >> Yeah, pull it up on your phone then. Can you Can you Can you do it for 2 seconds and then go back to doing it? >> Why why like my ID came Why do y'all still like keep messing with me? >> Awesome that your ID came back. Now, where's your insurance? So, in the state of Illinois, sir. Okay, if you're Let's see your insurance. >> I'm >> That's on in the driver's seat. That's an operating a vehicle, okay? In the state of Illinois >> I understand that. >> In the Illinois CS code it's the Illinois >> If you're unable to provide us with insurance, we'll have to issue a ticket. That's all. So >> I I can't I This is harassment. >> Okay, well you're making it longer. We're just asking you to show us your insurance. You're good to go. >> Why Why is the license not good enough for y'all? >> What do you mean? Because it doesn't In the state of Illinois, like some states like insurance shows up on licenses. It doesn't show for us. >> Look, they >> we you have better of to worry about. >> to go to that. If you would just show us your insurance, we can't just stop our investigation right now and then so I can go to this call. I have more things to do, please. >> Um can I look, can I go in this house to show y'all >> the house to show us your insurance. You show us it now and then you're going >> No, I'm showing y'all that I'm not a lawyer. >> I don't care that. I just want to see your insurance now. >> I don't want to call I don't want to >> Sir, could you just show us your insurance? If not, I'll have to give you a ticket and you get a court date. >> Why? >> Would you like the ticket instead? Would you like us to provide you with a ticket and you can show the judge >> Why why y'all doing something >> So, I'm putting your vehicle down with no insurance, sir. >> I'm not first of all >> reasons, right? With your car and then the lawyer is going to see you at your property. That's why I'm talking to you. Okay. >> I'm not a lawyer though. >> I'm going to ask you again. Would you rather show the judge the insurance with a court date or would you just rather show us now? >> Why y'all >> I'm asking you. You can choose now. Like I'm giving you the option. I'll have to give you a ticket. >> Why? >> Sir, this is I have to write you a ticket. >> That's that's Hold on. Just just record it. Just record it. I got you. I got you. >> Case details, the pretext, parked 12 inches from the curb and alleged housing property loitering, legal trap, interpreting a running engine as active vehicle operation under the Illinois code. The outcome, forced choice between stopping the phone video to show insurance or receiving a court summons.