You are making this up. Why did you just pull up on me in a private lot? You don't talk to me. You have no authority over me right now. I have not broken the law. You do not get to sit here and dictate how I act. You should have never came up to me in the first place. I have the Spark app right here. It's turned on. I'm working. You had You had no reason. Because I used my blinker? You told me the the reason because I used my blinker to turn into a business >> No, I tried to explain it and you were you just kept talking over >> This is Matthew, a professional delivery driver for the Spark app. He had been sitting in the Walmart parking lot for 45 minutes waiting for an order, standard procedure for gig workers. However, Sergeant Warner viewed this as loitering and demanded ID under the threat of arrest. >> What's going on, man? >> Uh not a whole lot is going on. >> Uh you got your driver's license with you? >> For what reason? >> Cuz you were sitting out here loitering. >> Uh I'm actually working for Walmart, so >> You're working for Walmart? >> do deliveries for Walmart. Why are y'all over here watching me over here watching me the whole time? >> Okay. >> Like what's going >> got a driver's license with you? I'm getting out with you for loitering. >> No, you're not. No. >> Yes, I am. >> No. You can call your supervisor. >> I am the supervisor. >> Uh get your So, I need somebody up higher >> I need to see your driver's license real quick. >> No, you don't. >> You got your driver's license on you? >> Dude, I work for Walmart. I'm out here doing deliveries. What what is >> Okay, well I've been watching you for the past 45 minutes and you have not >> to come through. I do this every day. >> If we can confirm that, that's fine. You got your driver's license with you? >> have to confirm that to you. That you It's none of your business. Like I'm You're not Why don't you go quit and everybody else can >> businesses here. >> No, dude. You're You're doing this >> your driver's license with you? >> I don't. It's >> You can either provide your driver's license or you're going to go to jail. >> Okay, so the under threat of arrest, I will give you my license for sitting in a private parking lot. Under threat of arrest. >> This is [ __ ] ridiculous. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> Okay, like I said, the reason why I'm getting out with you is you've been sitting in the parking lot for 45 minutes. You have not conducted any business in this business, okay? So, that's why I'm talking to you. Give me 1 second, all right? Negative, it's okay. Anything in plain view or anything? >> No, not from what I can see. >> He's not going to give me any consent but all right. >> He's about to let me slide out. He will. >> He says he works here. I would like to confirm that. He does deliveries for them or something. >> He doesn't work here then. He works for a whole different company that that coordinates with Walmart. >> Spark Hey, so what company do you work for? >> Why does that matter? >> I'm trying to figure out why the reason you're sitting in this parking lot without conducting business here. I'm not trying to get into it with you. You work here. You're a >> I'm not a Walmart employee. >> Okay, so what company do you work for? I need to I'm trying to confirm that. What company do you work for? >> it with? You want me to call my [ __ ] boss? >> I'm confirming with you. >> Let's go inside and talk to the managers in here and see what they say. >> I mean, I can but I you could just tell me what company you work for. That'd be awesome. >> That's all I need. Thank you. >> Why I'm over here getting picked out of a [ __ ] parking lot full of >> Go ahead. I was on info. She say something? See if he can come over here. So what uh Somebody in there be able to confirm me he works for them? >> It's a whole different company. >> So Spark is It's a Would they have like a ID or something for Spark? >> No, he should have the app though. They don't have It's It's all through like this app and everything. Uh It's basically they coordinate with Walmart. It's basically Walmart's delivery service. But he has to have a whole different app or an app for it. >> Give him time to get here. >> Huh? >> Got to give him time to get here. >> Okay. >> The door >> [clears throat] >> But here's the thing with Spark 2 is he's in a rental vehicle. He He has to have his own vehicle. I'm going to do it and it has to be registered in his his name. >> stuff? >> He cannot be delivering in this vehicle cuz it's not registered to him. And the insurance has to be his. >> That's something for Spark to handle that. >> Mhm. Let me go and uh explain to you. >> Yeah, if you know more about Spark and kind of explain to him, I'm going to try to keep confirming if that's what he's really doing. See if you can find out when his like delivery is supposed to be or what what's the deal? >> [clears throat] >> Why does Flex keep jacking up? >> He's not going to listen to a word I'm saying, so >> Did he show you that for anything? >> No, he's just going to sit there and argue the entire time in your court. >> See if you can find out where he's coming from. >> Probably SOTCC. I can go look for him. >> Well, hang on. I got it pulled up. I don't see him at all. >> Hm. >> I don't see him at all. >> No, I'm just texting the group. >> Hey. Every day, 5 or 6 days a week. >> Okay. >> Yes, every day. >> What is it? I'm just saying that I'm just saying that >> Oh, I'm just saying. I'm over here >> Same thing. >> I'm here 5 to 6 I'm telling him if you understood anything, I'm out here 5 to 6 days a week in this same car in this same spot for the last 3 years I've done this. It still doesn't make sense to me. What crime have I committed? Loitering, who who who has to be the complaint of loitering? It has to be the property owner. If I'm loitering on private property >> You cannot be on private property when you're not conducting business. So, I'm trying to confirm what this >> conducting >> How do I know that? >> Because why are you That's the point That's the whole point you're not understanding. You shouldn't It shouldn't be my responsibility to come and tell you to say, "Hey, I'm over here working." >> Let >> of issues in this parking lot. We watch this parking lot, okay? >> did watch this parking lot, you would see me every day. >> Dude. >> That's the thing. What what >> Step back here real quick. >> For what reason? >> Cuz I want you to. Come talk to me back here. >> I want to talk to you back here. I I have no reason for me to get out of my car. I can get my license, I can get a ticket, whatever you're going to do, just go ahead and and do it. Write the citation, do whatever. >> The The only thing I need to do right now is confirm that you are a Spark driver. Do you have an app that has Spark? >> app right here. My God, dude, you're [ __ ] making this a big deal over nothing. >> I'm not trying to make anything big here. >> a big deal. Why did you just pull up on me in a private Oh, you don't talk to me. You have no authority over me right now. I have not broken the law. You do not get to sit here and dictate how I act. You should have never came up to me in the first place. I have the Spark app right here. It's turned on, I'm working. I've already made two deliveries today. I'm trying to wait on another one, but y'all have done missed three or four since I've been sitting here. I can't even come out here and make money. >> So, you sit here in the parking lot. >> I will corroborate it. What do you mean I haven't done anything. I haven't broken the law. >> So, >> is where you can tell him he can talk to you or not. >> of this, because I'm pissed off that you just came up to me for no reason. That's why. You're over here Here, give me my phone back. >> So you sit in the parking lot just waiting for deliveries to pop up. >> closer we get >> Dude, can you talk to me in a normal tone? >> Oh my goodness, dude. Why Do I need to baby like Do I need to goo goo ga ga or something? Like damn, I can't You're I'm upset right now. I am. >> That's fine. >> So I'm a little elevated. >> That's fine. You can bring your elevation back down. >> No, I don't have to if I don't want to. You don't get to determine how I act right now. I get to act how I want to act. You came up to me. You're the one that approached me. You're the one that came up here. I proved to you that I work here. >> Just now. >> Just now. I told you the whole time we can go I TOLD YOU 10 MINUTES AGO that I work for Spark. You didn't believe me. It's not my problem. >> I had to confirm that. Now you just confirmed that with an app. So here's your driver's license back. And yes, you are out here loitering. That is loitering. And I can get out with you if I want to. You're loitering. >> Let's go talk to them and see what they think about it. >> You're not a Walmart employee. And well He's not going to have none of that. He's just being being that way. >> Being a turd. >> Yeah. >> He's sitting here for probably >> He's good to go. Come get him. >> I backed the blue. I backed the blue the whole time. And then y'all come over here and just drive >> Okay, wait on your delivery. You're good. >> I I'm good. I know. I'm going to sit here. If I'm good to go, I'm good to stay. >> You're good to go. >> I'm good to stay too then. >> Okay then, roll your window up and quit talking to me. Then quit talking to me. >> or private if you want to go somewhere else to talk. It's ridiculous. You just pulled up on me. You're You expect me to just sit here and be okay with that? You just pulled up on me for no reason. You've been sitting over here across the street for an hour. Sitting here watching me for no reason. I had You had no reason. Because I used my blinker? You told me the the reason because I used my blinker to turn into a business I was at. >> I tried to explain it and you were You just kept talking over me. >> Whoever this is, he looks a little more higher up than y'all do. I don't know. >> Is he talking to me? This guy? >> Yeah. >> Uh well, I don't know. This guy seems like he know the law, so I'm hoping somebody else actually knows the law. >> Oh, no. You got me, dude. >> Oh, well. Okay. Well, excuse me. I guess y'all are just pieces of [ __ ] >> All right. >> You have the right to your own opinion. It's not going to hurt our feelings. >> So. >> All right. All right, then. Appreciate it. Till we meet again. >> I didn't I looked in to see if your name was on there. I didn't see your name. Then they told me you were known, so I was like, "Well, then go." >> I don't know. No, no. I was here. I just I was grabbing some lunch. >> Okay. >> I scarfed down and ran off. >> Well, I hate I bothered you for no reason. >> It's all right. It's all good. >> Can I get your name and badge number, please? >> My name is Sergeant Warner. >> Sergeant Warner? >> Yep. That's all you need. I'm the one that stopped you. That's all you need to talk to. 0848 >> 1248? >> 0848 >> 0848? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Can I get your name and badge number, please? >> The number on my badge is 1876. >> 1876? Is that your badge? >> Wow. >> Your identifying number? >> No, it's not. It's the number on my badge, though. >> Well, can I get your identifying number? Well, yeah, I think so. I think you're actually required by policy to give it to me. >> I don't even work in this state, and I'll go >> Oh, you don't work in the state? You work for the city of Texarkana. I bet if I read the city of Texarkana's policy book, it would be you need to identify. I can't see your name. Where's your name displayed at? Texarkana, Texas. Oh, that's Okay. That's your name. So, how am I supposed to file a complaint on you if I don't know your name? >> You go to the third floor >> of my state? Third floor of my state. Where's that located? >> If you Google my state, it'll show you exactly where to go. >> Google my state. >> And it's two floors up from the first floor. >> Two floors up. All right. And can I get yours, please? >> Carter >> 22117 I appreciate it. Wow. Yeah, wow. Can you believe that y'all just roll up on people on private property like that? That's crazy to me. It's insane. It is insane. Somebody who works for here Somebody I watched the cop sit over there. He was waiting on me to leave. I don't know which one of you it was. I'm sure it's probably you cuz you seem like the one that's most agitated. I didn't leave in time. >> I'm not agitated. I just tried to explain to you what I was getting out with you for. >> Dude, there's there's cars that have been sitting here all day. Why am I the one Why >> Is there people sitting in these cars all day? I've been sitting here watching you for the past hour sitting in your car not conducting business here. I came to confirm that and once I confirmed that now I am leaving. I confirmed that you had the right to be here. I do. It's called disorderly. Look it up. Get in your car please before you go to jail for disorderly. Get in your car. You can stay there and block the parking lot if you want to. You go get in your car. You're the one in the middle of the parking lot. Okay, well go get in your car. You're not going to arrest me for being in the parking lot of a private property. You can get You can get out of here and you can stop blocking the parking lot and causing a scene for no reason. Y'all hate when people talk about Man, I I confirmed the reason why you're here. I'm done conducting business with you. You're good to go. You are good to go. I'm done conducting business with you. You are good to go. You're wearing a hat. I don't like the way you look. It's ridiculous. I thought there was some good cops today. Never really had any bad interactions. I'm going to get out of here before I just get myself in trouble or take this guy to jail. All right, buddy. Appreciate it. Get out of the road. I'm in the I'm behind the line. YOU'RE IN THE [ __ ] parking spot. You need to drive over the in the road. >> Case details. Initial accusation. Loitering. Conflict. Subject refused to identify initially, claiming he was working. Officer threatened arrest. Outcome. Subject proved employment via app. ID returned. No arrest made.