Oh my god. >> All right, we're going live. >> Yeah, for sure. >> This is going to be epic. >> Oh boy. >> Oh my. >> Yes, we are. Do it. I want you to >> go around. Okay. >> Ma'am, who's in the mouse seat? Was it the gentleman that was just up here? Okay. Chuckyy's a little bit busy now. Chucky, come with me, Chucky. Come on. >> Come with Chucky. Chucky, stop resisting. Stop resisting. You're being detained. Stop resisting. Let it Let it go. Let it go. Do not cause a scene here, sir. I got [Music] >> Come on. We're going this way, sir. Yeah. >> Okay. We're going to talk to you in a minute. Okay. >> We got to do our job, ma'am. >> It's not my call, ma'am. >> He's a crime. He's a criminal. What would you like to know? >> I would like y'all to walk him out the door instead of talking on his shirt, SEEING SOMEBODY LIKE >> WOULD Y'ALL PUT Mickey Mouse in handcuffs? >> Have a good night. >> Have a good night. I will. >> I'm going talk to you in a minute. Let you know what's going on. Okay. >> I don't know [ __ ] about this. >> All right, that's fine. >> I don't know [ __ ] about monkey. >> I got you. >> I'm I'm working entertaining kids. >> I got you, buddy. Come over here. >> [ __ ] you. >> You got You got anything on you? It's going to poke me. Stick me. Stab me. >> You got anything on you? I'm going to pat you down. Okay. What's that? What's in your pocket here? >> Just your wallet and stuff. Does this come off, man? Does Is that Does this just come off the top? Oh, I heard you. >> I worked here. >> I understand you worked here. >> What the [ __ ] is this about? >> Well, we're going to talk to you. >> I'll talk to you in a second. >> Um, how does this come off, man? Is it just like a normal >> Can I get I got to take this back. This is my work stuff. >> Okay, take care of that. >> Yeah, we'll do it. Put them in the pond and read them and then go from there. Man, where >> searching as best you can? >> All right, just hold on right here. >> You don't have anything that's going to poke me or stick me, right? >> No, sir. >> All right. Don't worry about Don't worry about reaching or anything. Okay. Where the uh you got pants on underneath this? >> I got to take all this stuff off, huh? >> I got a good dress. >> What is going on? >> Just pat him down. Pat him down for now. >> I didn't feel any weapons. So, >> you have any weapons, knives? >> I don't carry weapons. >> All right. Have a seat here, sir. I'm going to read you something. Okay. What is going on? >> I'm about to explain that to you right after we do this. Okay. >> I don't know what y'all talking about or what's going on. >> All righty, sir. I'm Officer Cruz >> with the Dallas Police Department. I'm conducting an official criminal investigation concerning fraud. Any false statements about material matters given by a witness under the oath will be will consult penalty. Sorry, that's the wrong one. All right. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him present with you while you are being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish. You can decide at any time to exercise those rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. >> Do you understand each of these rights as I've explained them to you? >> Yeah, I understand. But what is going on? I don't know anything. >> Have you previously requested any law enforcement officer to allow you to speak to an attorney? >> I haven't. I don't know anything about none of this. >> Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? >> What is going on? >> Having these rights in mind, do you want us to talk to you? Do you wish to talk to us about what's going on? >> I just need I just want to know what's going on. I have to get back to work. >> Sir, having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? >> Why are y'all even harassing me and I didn't even do anything? I'm working. >> Sir, I need you to answer the questions before I talk to you. Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? I I why what I talk to y'all up and I don't know what's going on. >> It's a yes or a no, sir. Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? >> Whatever, man. >> Yeah, it's >> a yes. Okay. >> All right. So, we are investigating some some fraud stuff with the credit card. Did you uh have you been using anyone else's credit card anywhere? >> No, sir. >> Have you been Have you been shopping lately with a credit card? >> No, sir. Only card I use is my own cash app. That's it. >> So, you don't use a credit card anywhere? >> No, sir. Okay. Um, you you've never obtained a credit card from here, found one, lost or whatever else and used it anywhere else. So, there wouldn't be any video of you anywhere shopping with a credit card >> like at the meat market. >> At the meat market that doesn't belong to you? >> I don't know anything about a meat market. >> You don't shop at the meat market? You So, you haven't gone anywhere and used a credit card to shop anywhere in the past week? >> No. >> Okay. Um, pushing on the location. >> Okay. Well, yeah. What about All right. Well, I tell you what. >> I don't know anything about >> I was I was going to look at the video for myself. I don't remember the names of the places. >> I don't even know anything about none of these. >> Okay. >> As far as I know. >> So, we got >> cuz I cannot afford to lose this job. This is all I know and love. I gotcha. >> Have you ever been to a place called 720? >> 720 in Tallahassee. >> 720 Orange Avenue after the meat market. >> Oh, the meat market's meat market. >> The one that you're on film stealing. >> What about Cloud Smoke Shop? You ever been there? >> Okay. >> The one you're also on film stealing. >> What about the Waterburger? You go to the Waterburger and get some food with a credit card. >> Okay. >> Only neighborhood meat market. You went there multiple times. >> I use my own card now. I don't use other people's stuff for nothing. >> Okay. At the meat market. You use your own card? >> My own card. That's it. >> So, you do you did go to the meat market then? >> I go there, but I don't use nobody car but my own. >> When's the last time you went there? The meat market >> a few days ago. >> Few days ago. Okay. And you used your own card there? >> Yes. My own. Nobody else's. >> Is that the app thing you were talking about? Your Apple Pay thing? >> Cash app. >> They take cash app there. Okay. What about the time savers too? Cash App. >> Cash App. So, you've been there recently? >> About two weeks ago. >> Okay. >> What about Tony Mart? >> No. >> Haven't been there recently. >> Haven't been to Tony Mart. Okay. Time savers again. So, you you go to these places and use your cash app on your phone to pay for stuff? >> Never with a card. Okay. So, if we got video of you using a card, >> I use my own card. No one else's. >> Well, you said it's a phone, right? It's uh >> I I have that card, but it's not with me today. >> You have the car, but it's not What What card do you have on you today? >> I don't got no card on me. What? Boss cards. That's it. >> That's it. Okay. >> And a pack of cigarettes. That's it. >> Okay. So, you're So, you're denying all all claims of of going over to these places and using uh someone else's credit card. >> I don't use nobody car but my own. >> Okay. You you know how much meat you bought or about how much stuff you spent in the past few weeks on your uh your your Apple card or your cash app card or whatever card you had? >> Not too sure. >> Not too sure. >> Work it. >> Okay. >> No ballpark here. >> What What were you buying from like the the 420 the smoke shops? Just cigarettes or >> cigarettes? I just cigarettes. >> Okay. What about the other shops? What were you buying from there? >> Don't know. You want a number? >> Don't remember. Okay. So, just just meat and cigarettes. >> If you want to show them the video, you can show them the video. >> I mean, >> I don't know nothing about all this stuff. I don't use no car on my own car. I don't know nothing about this other [ __ ] Does >> that look like you? Something you wear? >> No, sir. I don't wear no stuff like that. >> You don't wear anything like that? That's not you. That's not you. >> Hey, look at me. It's going to be in your best interest to tell the truth, okay? Don't Don't pretend like that's not you in the picture. All right? You know it's you. Just start telling us the truth. >> I don't want to go to jail today. >> I mean, if you're lying to us, you're only going to make things worse on yourself, buddy, cuz all that's going to go in the report and all the judge is going to see all that [ __ ] >> I'm not trying to go to jail today. >> I I understand that, but we got to investigate what happened here. So, if you want to I mean, if you want to let us know what's going on, that would help everyone here, including yourself. >> Can you hold this up, please? >> What? Get his name and information. >> All right. You got your Do you have your ID card on you in your in your pockets? You don't have your ID card on you? We're We're going to We're going to find out if you got it on you. So, if you're if you're lying to me, it's not going to go well, man. What's your name? Hold on a minute. Officer, can I go inside and get my ID? >> Have a seat. You can't tell us where it is and we'll go get it for you. >> Just tell us where your ID card is. >> I don't have it at all today. >> Okay. What's your What's your first name? >> My first name is >> Spell it for me. >> J E R M E L. >> J E R M E L L. >> Yes. >> What's your middle name? >> J. >> What's your last name? Sir, what's your last name? >> Jones. I just work here. >> J O N E S. >> Is it J O N E S? Jones. Spell it for me, >> sir. What's your last name? Spell it. >> Jones. I just said that. >> Okay. Spell it for me, please. >> J O N E S. How do you spell? Okay. J O N E S. >> Damn. >> What's your date of birth, Mr. Joe? >> 83. All I do is this for a living this. >> I got you. What's a good phone number for you? All right. Well, have a have a seat in there. I'm going to check something. Go ahead and spin out with your leg. >> Feet slide off. You can slide the feet off. >> Yeah. Yeah. Let me take these off. >> Thanks. >> Hey, do you know his name? >> Well, I know, man. >> I do. I mean, he my employee. Can you take the stuff off? I >> still kid like we're going to we're going to take it off here in a second. What What's his name? >> Jamal Jones. >> Jamal Jones. Okay. >> How long has he been working for you for? >> At least two years. I've been here. >> Okay. >> So, for as long as you've been working here, he's been he's been here uh >> Okay. Just let you know, there is a a lady that had a birthday party here. He stole her credit card and has been using it for the last month. >> So, that's that's why we're doing all this. >> All right. And and to be fair, he He had known that we were here and we saw him through the window in his regular outfit, his regular uniform. And then I think he he thought that he could hide in the Chuck-E-Cheese uniform and that's why he volunteer for it or does he usually >> Chucky? So he has to be Chucky. He's a Chucky person. >> He usually is. >> Yeah. So I mean I understand what y'all doing. I just the suit I got a lot of kids. They come to see Chucky. They literally crying there right now. >> I got the whole store for >> But let's He wants a He the manager wants a uniform. So, let's try and take that off. >> Figure that out here. Give me his info. >> Let me see your feet. >> And everything. >> Okay. Yeah, we'll we'll take care of that. >> I'm not trying to go to jail today. >> I I don't want to go to jail today. >> You don't want to come here, man? >> I don't want to go to jail today. >> All right. Can you stand up? Is there a belt on those pants? >> I got to take You got to hook up so I can take all this stuff off. >> No. No. We're going to take it off for you. Is there a belt on your pants? >> I gotta take this though to get to my right. >> I don't I don't think you're understanding. >> Hold on. I want real quick. >> Okay. >> You got attachers up there. It's going to have to come off of here. >> No, man. I don't even know [ __ ] >> If we take these cuffs on you, are we going to have to get in a fight or >> No, sir. I'm going to cooperate. >> All right. Good. >> I'm going to cooperate like regular person. >> Thank you. All I do is do this 9 to5 every day. That's it. I go to work, go home. That's it. >> Huh? >> Yo, I think >> it's about to cost me money. I'm about to lose. >> I hope not, man. I know the the owner is a pretty good guy or the main he's a good guy. I don't know if it's going to cost you your job, man. >> I don't want to go to jail for nothing, man. If I find a card or something, I turn it in if I'm in. >> We'll get it figured out, man. We'll get it figured out. >> Thank you. If I was to find a card or something, I'm giving it up. I don't do nothing with other people cards. >> My body camera is on and it's recorded you saying that. Okay. Go ahead and take your shirt off, please. >> All her ass in the back, man. Working. >> Not really. >> All I do is work this. >> Okay, I believe you. >> We're just doing our job right now, too, sir. Okay. >> Oh, no. >> Can I smoke a cigarette? >> No, not right now. >> Not right now. >> Not right now. >> We'll get to that in a second. Thank you. All right, stand up. Face away from me. Put your hands behind your back. >> I might have been on camera in that store you saw, but not using what y'all think. >> Where we at? >> Um, he said he only has one card. It's completely white. >> Okay. >> But I don't have it with me today. >> Okay. >> So, we got the only card you have is the one plain white card. It's got your name on it and small >> and just the stripe on the back that you would swipe scan. Yeah, but it's not with me today. >> I understand that you have no other cards. You have no other credit cards, debit cards, any type of cards. >> Bus cards. That's it. >> What are those? >> Like to catch the bus with >> bus card. Okay. But you can't pay for items with that, right? >> No. No. You can't do nothing with that. >> Okay. And and you said when you go to these places where you were, you saw yourself on camera, right? You use your your own white card there. >> Over. Yeah. >> Okay. Which is plain solid white, >> right? >> Okay. With just your name and the back swipe swipe right, >> right? My own overdrill. >> Okay. All right. Okay. Um and then yeah, other than other other than that, you would just use your phone app to pay for stuff and just that one white plain white card. Okay. >> Sure. >> All right. And did you use at all those smoke shops and meat places? Were you using your just your white card? >> Just mine >> with that or your phone to pay at all? >> My corn. >> You switch back and forth? >> You all sad car. >> Okay. And um what kind of stuff were you buying from the meat market? Was it meat or was it Did they sell their stuff there? >> Like snacks and stuff. >> Snack food. Okay. So, not a lot at once. Maybe what anywhere from $5 to $15 $20 at a time. >> Especially what I got to eat when I'm coming here. >> Yeah, I understand that. >> Write it all down. >> Yes, sir. I'll bring you a card or I'll have my other officer bring you a card in one second. Yes, sir. >> Trying to identify him still. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Have you ever been arrested today, sir? Or in ever? Have you ever been arrested? Last time I arrested years took it. Where was that at? >> He This only Tallahassee. >> In Tallahassee. >> What' you get arrested for? >> Last time I got arrested was a possession case. I ain't been in trouble ever since. >> Okay. Possession of what? >> Yeah. I don't know why. Like David, do you have an ID or a driver's license at all? >> It's supposed to be a ID card, but I don't have it. I have to get it renewed. And you've in the past few weeks you haven't found any any credit or debit or anything cards here? >> No, sir. >> And if you did, you would have turned them in. >> Okay. >> Well, we're going to get to bottom of it. We're going to see if what you're telling me matches up with what the video evidence shows and with what's going on. You know what I'm saying? >> Um, we got to do our job, too, right? If something's reported, we got to check into it and make sure we know what's going on, right? So the manager was he wasn't working today, huh? Guy with the glasses here today. >> He's a good dude. He's a good guy. How long you been working here for? >> Two years. >> Two years. >> And I love it. >> Yeah. It's good. It's a good place. It's a good job. >> I ain't trying to lose this over some [ __ ] I don't have no control of. >> Gotcha. >> I've been feeling like these kids not doing got I entertain kids for a living. I got you. >> I just I just want to go and work and make a living. What's >> that? I got you, sir. >> You have a card for me real quick if you give me two cards for him? >> Yeah. Two. >> All right. So, where we at? >> Um, so he says he only has one physical credit card. It's plain white. Just his name on it and the magnetic strip on the back. That's all he has. If he would have used a card at all these stores that he's he's seen himself on camera at, it would have been either his phone cash app or the cash app. All plain white card with a magnetic strip on the back. >> So the card that we see you using in the footage with the circle on it, >> what card is that? >> I didn't get that card. >> That's what we see in the footage. So what is that? >> One of my cousins may send me with their card to go to the store here and there. That's it. What does that card look like? >> I do not know because it's not with me. >> Have you gone to the the store with your cousin's card at all the past few weeks? >> Keep keep working on that. >> I need my notepad so I can write some information down cuz I'm going to need your cousin's information. >> I don't know none of their information though. >> You don't know their information, but they send you to this store with their credit card. >> They be right there with me. >> Where do they stay? >> You know, how do you get in touch with them? Not too far. Hang. >> What's their phone number? >> She don't got one. >> She don't got a phone number. So, where does she stay? >> Where's your cousin stay at? >> I gave you a card. What's that? >> On the other side of town, man. >> Other side. Where? On the other side of town. >> I'm trying to help. I'm trying to help you. You're telling me you're going with your cousin's card. Give me some information on how to find your cousin so we can verify and see what kind of card she has so we can help you. If you're if you're going to tell me you're going with someone's car, then not give me any information that helps me see if that's valid. >> She was like a gray car, but I don't know what kind of gray car that actually is cuz I only use maybe a couple times. >> Have you gone Have you gone to the store with anyone else's car other than hers in the past few weeks? >> No, >> just hers. Okay. So, what's her name? >> I would. >> All I know is key. That's all I know. >> Key. >> Yeah, that's all I know. I don't know what actual >> K E Y. >> Yeah, that's all I All I know by Right. >> Okay. What's Keith's phone number? >> I don't have her number. >> How do you get in touch with her? >> Facebook, but I don't have that on my phone on me right now. >> Or Facebook? Facebook Messenger. >> Something like that. >> Okay. >> Um, I don't do nothing I ain't supposed to be doing. I ain't trying to go to jail today. >> Um, and you don't know what her address is. You don't know where she stays? >> Not going to stay with this cousin. and I stay with somebody else. >> And you said hers is a gray credit card. >> Yeah, it's just gray. That's all I know. >> What's What does it look like? Does it have her name on it? Does it have a magnetic strip? Does it have any other features on it? >> Only thing I know is her name, the weather um the strip. That's it. All I know is the strip. Nothing else. Cuz I don't look for nothing else. >> Okay. >> All right. So, which which day did she give you her card? It's for you to go to the store. >> Yesterday. >> Yesterday. Any other day in the past two weeks did you go to the the store with her card? >> Quite a few days. Quite a few days. >> Which days? >> Why? >> Last week. That's all I know. I don't do nobody on [ __ ] >> Well, which Well, which day were you going to pick something up for her or you going to pick something up for yourself with her card? >> When they need stuff, they send me with they own [ __ ] >> Okay. Where do they send you from? Where they at usually when they're sending you? >> Like at the house or something? Whose house? >> Like her house? Well, I don't stay with her, but it's just somewhere on this side of town. I don't know exactly where. >> At your house. >> Her house? I I don't have one. >> Well, how do you get to her house? >> Sometimes I catch a bus if I decide to go, but I don't go over there that much. >> What stop does the bus drop you off at? Over there? >> I get off by I forgot. >> You forgot? Okay. And so you don't know which stop you get off at. You don't know how you make it to her house or where it's located once you get off. We meet up soon to when we meet off. >> Okay. So, how do you plan to meet up? How do you how do you call her? What's her phone number? >> I don't have her number. >> Okay. >> Do you have anything inside? Your manager is asking any personal items inside for us to get for you or anything like that. >> Well, what's going on? >> Um, well, you're probably going to jail, so >> I can't afford to go to jail today. >> I understand. >> I'm about to get fired. >> I hope he doesn't fire you, sir. Do >> you have anything else you need us to grab for you? >> Can I get my um stay in there? >> Work keys? Yeah. So, where are they so I can tell him? >> In In the Chucky room. >> In the Chucky room. And it's work keys. >> Yes, sir. >> What else? Wallet or anything like that? >> I don't got a wallet. >> You don't have a wallet? >> I don't even know about no car thing. >> Gotcha. right now it's it's out of our hands cuz there's been something that's been reported and there's there's physical visual evidence to match it and what what you're telling us is not helping break any of that. You know what I'm saying? So basically we're probably going to have to take you over to jail, book you for this and then the detectives are going to have to get to the bottom of what's going on here. If you if you're innocent, they'll I mean, they'll talk to you and they will of course you're innocent until proven guilty, but they'll talk to you and you'll figure out with them the timeline of events and what's going on and how this stuff happened and how this misunderstanding took place if that's what it is. And if not, if it's if if it's something that you did and you're you know, you're either honest with him or you're not and that's going to affect court, trial, and charges. So, it's it's how honest your being helps you more, you know what I'm saying? More than it's going to help anyone else. So, it's we're trying to find out what's going on. What you're telling me is not making a whole lot of sense with what I'm seeing. And it's if you want to lie to us, you can lie to us. That's your choice. >> I'm not going to lie to you all by [ __ ] >> If you want to tell us, you know, the truth or you can tell us whatever, you know what I mean? But if you the more truthful you are with us, the more it's going to help you in the long run. >> Cuz I'm not trying to go to jail today at all. >> I understand that. But what that's where we're at right now. >> We're going to jail right now. So, >> so just so you understand, we have you on camera with someone else's card and then the exact amounts that you purchase the items and the times that you appear on camera on camera. >> We do have probable cause for an arrest. >> We have everything that >> Just letting you know. >> We'll be in route to the jail. >> Search them. Okay, >> we'll search. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. >> Don't be reaching for anything, buddy. >> I want to tell y'all something. >> Say what? >> What do you want? >> I found a card today. >> Okay. >> I found a card today. I never use this car, but I do have eight cards. Okay, >> we're going to find that card when we get >> We're going to find that on you. Huh? >> Okay, >> that's fine. Step out and face away. >> I'm just complaining, y'all. >> What am I being charged with? >> What am I being charged with? >> You don't have anything that's going to poke me or stick me right there. >> Last thing I want to do is get poked by something. Okay. >> What am I being charged with? That's for the smoke show. >> Do you have a medical marijuana license, sir? >> We're on the way to getting one. >> Okay. >> All right. >> On the way here. Just set it up. >> That's mine. >> Oh, I wonder what this one is. >> Yep. >> And there's yours, too. So, you did have your car on you. I thought you told me you didn't have anything. >> I thought I didn't have it today. >> I found that today. >> Okay. I found that today. >> All righty, sir. >> July 24. Nothing else. >> Can I please smoke a cigarette? >> That's going to be up to my boss here. That's not up to me. >> You want to let him smoke a cigarette? >> No. >> Please. >> No, sir. Uh, jail staff can decide that when you get there. Okay. >> All right. Have a seat. Actually, take your take your shoe off for me. Take your shoe off. Yeah, >> you got this for now. >> Yep. Not leave them over here. Bring it up here. Bring it up here. >> When when you're chilling, take a photo of this and we'll get it back. >> Gotcha. >> I just told you, sir. >> Let me see. You know everything that we have. We just We just explained it to you, right? >> [ __ ] >> Now, I wish you'd have told me you had that on you. >> I was trying to get to that point. >> I'm going to um >> I was trying to tell you I had some weed in my pocket. I was getting to that. Well, let me see what I'm going to do about that. Okay, have a seat. Put your legs in there for me. It >> ain't no illegal surprisel. >> This Why is it in a bag like that? >> They did that theyel. >> They did that there. Okay. Have a seat. >> All right. >> Take a picture of all this [ __ ] >> Take photo in particular. >> Yeah. Um yeah, [Music] man. He didn't think he's going to get served. >> Look at his name. Oh, this isn't him. >> Who is that? >> Bus pass. Got the keys. That back time. Okay. I'm going to throw this away. I'm going to throw this away. Can I throw that away or grab your pound? Okay. What is that? >> Actually, check this. >> Yeah. See if they're good point. Throw the trash away. Should be good. [Music] Dude, with the card with the card >> 613 Oh man. Oh gosh. When was this special? >> Getting wet. Yeah. I'm going to go get a bag right now. So we'll we can empower you. >> Yeah, for sure. >> But photograph it and then store it and then also highlight the card number. We we can have this. So we'll impound this as well. Okay, perfect. Let me get a bag.