Yeah, I can grab both of your IDs now. 251. Copy uh 13 carbon in Russell. Do you think this is like a good idea at a kids park? Doing this? You understand you'll probably both be on a sex offenders list for this now, right? What's that? Yeah, it's a kids park. There was just a birthday party that was right in the field. I mean it's it's absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, get your chip put away, man. I'm going to look up to see how our county ordinance works. You're probably going to catch a charge on it. Um I'm just straight up with you. There is absolutely zero reason for you guys to be in a in a public park, especially where kids always are. We always have issues with people coming up here, especially registered sex offenders coming up here doing stupid [ __ ] A kids splash pad right over there. Make better decisions, man. You know, if anybody was up here still walking around on on the path, they don't need to see this. Find some other place to do it. I'm sure that either one of you guys probably could have gone back to your own house and and done something. At the very least you could have walked all the way down through the woods. Then you wouldn't have to worry about anyone coming up on you. So, I will at least give you guys the common courtesy to give you a phone call if I am going to charge you so that you can at least make arrangements come down and and handle the paperwork like that. All right. All right, that that'll work out, too. So, they're they're going to make a phone call and see if they can get a hold of the county's first. And if they want you guys trespassed, I'll get you guys out your trespass notice. That means you can't come back to to the parks like for the year. As far as when I'll call, I work nights, so it'll probably be sometime after 6:00 at night. I'll try to let you know sooner rather than later. Just always no news is usually good news. Well, let me find out if they want you guys trespassed. Hang out. All right, so the county wants you guys trespassed. So, there's a trespass warning. So, you can figure out which whoever goes to. Uh don't come back to the the park. It's going to be for a year. If you do, they see you, they got your tag on the car. Uh there's license plate readers and stuff at most of parks when you come in, it's going to flag it. So, you get charged for the for trespassing. I said I'd give you guys a call up whenever I figure out if I'm going to charge you guys for it or not. All right? All right, make better decisions. >> Just over a month later, this same person has again come to the attention of the sheriff's office in a separate incident. >> Hey, how are you folks? How can I help you? >> Uh we're just having a conversation here with Jordan. Jordan, there's child pornography you have to delete off your phone, right? >> Okay, and there's child porn on >> Okay, okay, time time time out, okay. >> Okay, well, he does have child pornography on his phone. We have a group we catch online child predators across the country and he was messaging a um he was messaging a 13-year-old decoy account and um he wasn't necessarily sexual with the account. He did ask for a nude photo, obviously wouldn't send him one, but um what was suspect about his account is that he had he was on Telegram and his account was like fur You know what are you familiar with what a a furry is? >> Mhm. >> So, his account was more so furry themed and he mentioned that he had this app called Telegram, which you know, in our experience has been a guarantee they're going to have child porn. So, just based on that, I just came to his home right here. He we happened to catch him outside. Um I talked to him. I told him he was being recorded twice. He acknowledged it both times. I told him that an eight >> Did he tell him for When you mean recorded, what do you mean? >> Um I mean, I just said this conversation is being recorded. Like I mean, yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And then I told him that he can also make me leave his property at any time and that he does not have to talk to me and I said that very clearly and he acknowledged that as well and that's all on film. >> Okay. >> And um Yeah, I just wanted to ask him about this 13-year-old decoy. There wasn't really too much that was said, but it's more so the other stuff. Uh Telegram and Teleguard, he admitted that he uh has viewed child porn on Telegram and Teleguard um as young as 5 years old. He described the videos in detail um said he's also exchanged child porn with people, not us, but just just people in general. And um Yeah, he said that at one point there was hundreds of videos saved to his phone, but right now they would be just on his Telegram chats and he said if you were to scroll through his Telegram chats right now, there'd be about 15 chats where he's exchanging child porn with people and um there'd be probably hundreds of videos in there and he talked about ac- Are you familiar with Megalinks? >> No, I'm not. >> You know what Dropbox is? >> Okay. >> It's like basically a Dropbox that they kind of use for child porn. >> Okay. >> And he talked about accessing Megalinks with over 3,000 files shared in there. So, I any >> Did you get his phone? >> Uh I want to talk to him real quick and >> Okay. >> He already has one? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> What's the phone? >> It's decent. >> What's your name, brother? >> Jordan. >> Jordan >> Um Miller. >> Yeah, cuz I was here last week and we couldn't find him. >> Is this the one from Central that they've been talking about? >> Probably. >> All right, Jordan. Um Just a couple quick questions. My name is Detective Wisensale, with the Sheriff's Office over here in Santa Rosa, okay? Um Do you understand that you can you read and write? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay, can you uh do uh can you um How far did you go in school? >> High school. >> High school. Do you currently work at the uh >> No, I'm not. >> You're not. What do you do? >> I work in the cafeteria. >> Okay. Um Do Do know who the You know who the president is? >> The president is Donald Trump. >> Okay. Regardless of how you feel with them, we're just trying to figure it out. And do you know what the Do you know what Do you by chance know what today's date is? >> It is September 2nd. 2nd. >> Okay. 2024. Are you diagnosed with anything that any kind of mental uh Anything else? >> ADHD. >> ADHD? >> Yes. >> That's about it? >> Yes, sir. >> Do you understand that you could walk away from us at this point and you don't have to talk to me, correct? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. And you don't you You understand that you if you chose you could actually have a lawyer here if you wanted, right? >> No, sir. You're not talking. >> So you You're okay with talking to me without one? >> Yes. >> Okay. So what are the Who are these gentlemen here? >> I wouldn't know them from Adam. They were here when I got home from work. >> Okay. >> I had They actually had to turn around and leave when I got home. >> Okay. >> I watched them leave and then they came back right after I got home. I came out back outside. I came to the door and he was knocking on the door waving for me to come outside. >> Okay. What did you guys talk about? >> Everything he told you just now. >> I just pretend you didn't I don't know what he was talking about. >> This guy named Kayson >> Okay. >> has been messaging me about child porn. Same stuff. >> Just Just give us one second. >> That's it. >> Okay. So he says that there's some There There was child porn on your phone? What What What do we mean by child porn? >> Um >> Okay. What doing What are they doing? >> They're just pictures. >> Picture But are they pictures What do you do with the pictures? >> I >> Uh, do you have your phone on you right now? >> Yes, sir. >> May I have it? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Do I need to unlock it for you? >> What's your passcode? Okay. You said there wouldn't be anything on here? What's that? Where would it be? On Telegram? Now, you again, you don't have to tell me that. You don't have to, but am I allowed to look at your Telegram? >> Yes, sir. >> What's that? >> Yes, sir. >> So, you Which one is this one right here? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Where would it be? >> It's going to be all the way on the bottom. I didn't mean to unlock it in front of you. I have a lot of this. Sorry about that. >> Got your hand. >> No, it's okay. >> I appreciate you apologizing for me. Very well mannered. >> I try to be well mannered, guys. >> Is there anything else in your house that would have anything on it? >> No, sir. >> How many photos do you think there are? >> I don't >> I mean, we can we can sit here and want to look through it. That's That's fine with me. Is that something that >> No, I'm good. >> Man, I can't see in the in the sun. >> Got you. >> Okay. Did you get out of it or is there a reason that it's not on there? It wouldn't You don't have anything like >> I haven't been >> When's the last time you have? Okay. >> And then after >> How long have you had this phone? >> I've had that phone since I've had the number since 2020. I know that. >> But um do you have any of your old phones or anything in there? >> No. >> Are there any flash drives or anything in there? >> No, sir. >> What about a computer? >> No, sir. >> Tablet or anything? >> No, sir. >> So when they rolled up here, um I guess he told you that you were free to leave at any point walk away, correct? >> Yes, sir. >> Did you feel like you could walk away? >> Yes. >> Okay. So they didn't intimidate you or threaten you or anything like that? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Did they tell you that they were going to call the cops? >> No, sir. They did not. >> Okay. So they I I just got to ask certain questions. Um I'm glad that, you know, everything worked out. Um have you explained the and all that? >> I haven't done anything. >> We can go ahead and take care of this that. I want to put this in the evidence. >> I already pulled a case number, so I apologize. >> No, that's fine. You're right. Um we were I was going to, but then I was like, "Okay, that's too many hands." Okay. So um So you do have an active You have an active warrant. I don't know what it's for. I don't know the details behind it. I know it's for um indecent exposure. Okay? Um so Deputy Muse here is going to place you under arrest for that warrant at this time, okay? >> Yes. Can I just get that for you, Brian? It's just easier for you. >> I'll look. Is he He's in the car. He'll be in the car. >> Say again? >> He's He's in the car. >> Yeah. You You you're going to put it you >> them to turn >> I'll play I'll put it in evidence for >> Can you get them to turn the cameras off that's still recording? >> Okay. Hey folks, he has asked if since this is his property he's asked if we can stop y'all can stop filming. >> We'll go to the street. >> I would I appreciate that. Thank you. They do have a right to film from the street though. Uh so just so we have a clear understanding, okay? You're not under arrest for any child pornography at this time, okay? You're only your only your warrant Yes, you're you're warrant, okay? The doesn't mean that this is not a case that's the case isn't isn't done. Um I'm not the lead I'm going to be the lead investigator on it. I'm going to be passing it off to somebody else that's better expert in this field. Um and they will be in touch with you, okay? >> All right. >> Do you have any questions for me? >> No, sir. >> All right. Come along. >> Yes, sir. >> You got anything that can poke me, stick me or hurt me on you? >> No, sir. >> All right. You're all right. I just have to do my role. Watch your head. All right. Hang tight. >> Wallet and ID badge in there is a vape in there. The uh jail might make you throw it away. >> Sounds good. >> Real quick is what I am swearing in front of everything you wrote today and told us is true to the best of your knowledge? >> Yes, absolutely. >> Do you have any questions for us? >> Um well, I anticipate a phone dump is probably going to yield some results on this guy. >> You know what I yeah I mean I you know what I'm saying. It's only so much we can put out. I I I respect your business what you all doing what you all doing. I do I respect your right to you know film under there so you know we just got to do what I'll do what we got to do. But yeah, whatever you have video um the chats if you can send all these screenshots or whatever you got to me send that to me um and we'll take care of it. >> Yeah, I'll get the chats to you today. The video whenever we get good Wi-Fi I'll have it uploaded for you ASAP so >> Is that y'all's is that his stuff? >> Yeah, those were the messages there. >> Okay. Okay. >> But, yeah. >> I'll put them in. I'll put them in, but >> If you I if you can't do it digitally, yeah. And um also, I'm going to send you a Google Drive link with all the messages. I'll send you a Dropbox link, too. It's not going to be anything in there, but it'll be updated. >> Okay. No CP? >> No, he didn't send any. >> I got I got to ask cuz then I got to use a dirty computer. >> Yeah, sounds good. All right. Well, thank you all so much. >> Yep, thank you. Appreciate it, sir. >> Yep, you all take care. All right. You all get some good overtime on him. >> I think uh >> There's something They might be sending somebody to talk to him now. >> I figured we'd be fine. >> Yeah, he said he wanted to send out I can't remember the [ __ ] girl's name. >> Thompson? >> Yeah. >> And I've got my camera, you know, like normal. Um So, here you've had an eventful afternoon. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. So, I got a phone call from my sergeant, and then of course uh I guess there was some kind of situation that happened this afternoon. Do you mind telling me about it or >> Um So, this guy was already at my house and before I even got home. >> Oh, okay. >> He actually had to pull away and come back when my coworker dropped me off. >> Uh okay. >> I I didn't know the guy, didn't know the vehicle. >> Mhm. What was he driving? >> It was a gray SUV. And as soon as I seen him turn around, I kind of I got out of the room, right? Didn't even bother getting dressed. >> You said you went to your room? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Do you live with anybody else? >> My mom also lives at that address. >> So, you go to your room, don't even worry about getting changed, and then what happens? >> Um I hear a knock on the door. I go answer it. He asked me to come outside. And then proceed with his with his >> Mhm. >> questionnaire. >> So, what kind of uh questionnaire was it? >> Uh he brought up someone named Keegan or Keegan or Kean, something like that. >> Okay. >> That had started messaging me on Telegram. >> Mhm. >> He He brought that up. Asked me how old he was. Told him his status was 13. >> Mhm. >> And he has the past couple of days he has been really pressing me to meet him. >> Mhm. >> Like to meet Keegan has been pressing me to meet him. >> Mhm. >> Uh and I've just been kind of blowing that off. He means to ask me got to school time I go into work and what time I get off. >> Mhm. >> You know, I've told him I go in at 7:30 as far as that goes. Um Anytime he brings up or did bring up like actually meeting, I just kind of didn't respond to him. >> Mhm. >> And then he asked me like to name things, places to go, things to do. >> Yeah. >> Again, I gave him nothing. >> Yeah. >> Uh he eventually said that he'd be like down to do whatever. >> Mhm. >> And my only response to that was I think I said something like same. Uh something like that in response. About 10 or 15 minutes into the conversation, I guess is when your deputy shows up. >> Okay. >> And >> he's Again, the guy that's really angry just like, "You're fine. Calm down." >> Yeah. >> I guess someone else called them. Didn't tell me he was going to call them at all. >> Yeah. >> I had no idea why they were at my house, what was going on. He didn't >> The cops or the other guy? >> The other guy. >> Okay. >> no statement in the Like, what in business would he be in there other than that's this? >> Okay. So, when you were talking to this person on You said it was Telegram? >> Yes, ma'am. >> They said they were 13? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. They reached out to you or >> Yes. >> How does Telegram it work? >> It's a social media app. >> Okay. Is it kind of like Facebook Messenger or Discord or >> Kind of Yes. >> Okay. >> Kind of like both of those. >> Um And then, so they reached out to you. How did that When did that start? >> I'm going to say it was late last year. >> With this person? >> Yes. >> Okay, so it's an ongoing conversation with them? >> No. >> No? >> Last year was the last time I contacted with them. >> Okay. Um And you guys have kind of communicated sporadically or >> Very. >> Okay. And do you still have Telegram on your phone? >> Yes, ma'am. >> So, you guys communicate on there. How did How did this guy get to your house? >> even know how he found my address. >> Okay. >> know. I didn't give him my address. >> Okay. Have you given your address to anybody? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay. What about um this kid on Telegram? Did you give him your address? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay. Did you give this kid on Telegram a phone number or anybody? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay. So, you don't know how they >> I don't know how he even found my address. >> Okay. And you're not sure why he was out there. >> No, other than to do what he was doing. >> Okay, which was >> the questionnaire, sir. The the one download basically child pornography. >> Child room porn? >> Child porn. >> Oh, child porn. Okay. Stop to me. >> Um he brought up the fact that that that I had that he had seen some. Um I'm I'm guessing it's on my phone. >> How would he have >> Uh like I don't know. I don't know where he's from. He said he had seen some. >> Mhm. >> Like not from me, but just in general he had seen some stuff like >> Oh, okay. Got you. >> blah blah you know, like not being like not trying to say I know where to get it, but >> Mhm. Yeah. >> You know, he asked me about maybe how many I might have seen or might have accidentally saved >> Mhm. >> upset pictures >> Okay. Okay. >> Um >> Were those from Other applications. Okay. And so you told them you And then What happened? >> Nothing really happened. He had He didn't really talk too much about it. Um Then Earlier I want to say earlier this week, late last week. He asked me if I wanted to meet like I think it Yesterday when he asked me if I could meet today at like He asked He gave a time. He was like at 3:00. >> Mhm. >> I was like, "No, I'll be working." >> Yeah. >> And I don't know I don't I just said no. >> Yeah. >> And he kind of dropped the conversation. He He tried to message me at again this morning. >> Mhm. >> I have I think I said, "Hey, I'm not too sure." >> Mhm. >> [clears throat] >> But um still didn't get home after work and you know the rest of it. >> Well, kind of. I wasn't there. So my understanding our deputies get there um and >> This guy's already here. >> Okay, so this guy's already here talking to you, kind of going over the the chat conversations you had had? >> Yeah. >> And then did he ask you if you had child pornography or did he ask you if you were aware that it's on Telegram? >> A little bit of both. >> Okay. >> Um Yeah, so I hadn't seen it and if I had any um >> He did ask you if you had any? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. And what was your response? >> Um no. >> Okay. And then did you relay any of this to the deputies that showed up? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um And then but at that time when the deputies got there, why did you think the deputies were there? >> They told me they were trying to get me for a past warrant. >> Okay. >> For indecent exposure. >> Okay. And then in the midst of that all of this comes up. >> Mhm. >> Okay. With um with all of that, you know, obviously the deputies took your phone. Does your phone have a pass-code on it? >> Yes, ma'am. It does. >> Uh would you mind providing me with the pass-code? >> Yes. >> With that, do you have What other kinds of applications do you have on your phone? >> Um a couple of games, YouTube. >> Mhm. Do you have like Facebook, Instagram, um Discord? >> TikTok. >> TikTok? Okay. >> It came with it. >> Okay. Um do you have Kik? So I know you have Telegram. Do you have Teleguard? >> No. >> Okay. So with that and the possibility that there's going to be some child pornography on the device, uh you know, I'm going to have to do a search warrant and all of that to go through it. What um content am I potentially going to be seeing? Like age range and you know, stuff like that. >> Um >> Okay. Um girls, boys Okay. Um How did you get into this? Out of curiosity. I know it's not something that's like overnight. It It takes time. >> I would blame the genetics. My dad was also very much He has been addicted to porn for years. >> Who's your dad? >> Uh Tyler Stacy Miller. >> Tyler Stacy Miller? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> He is currently incarcerated by the state. >> Do you know where he's at? >> No, ma'am. >> Okay. But is he in Florida? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um so, and then this is why he's in >> Yes. >> prison? Oh, okay. >> He was actually doing what my sister did. >> Okay. Did he expose it to you or kind of I know you're you're saying genetics, but when did it like come to light for you? >> Around the time he got arrested. >> Okay. What was going on? >> I had seen him once before. Like active with just my curiosity >> Mhm. >> about what's out there. >> Did he show it to you? No? Okay. Did it start with um normal pornography? >> Yes. >> Yeah. And that's Shame of it. That's how it all starts. You're watching the legal pornography which a lot of adults do and nowadays a lot of teenagers do. Um you know, back when I was growing up it was magazines. >> Really? >> Yeah. Magazines and it was just starting on the internet and stuff like that, you know, the guys were still hiding the Playboys under their mattresses and stuff like that. I know it's crazy. And as technology has evolved, you know, it's Yes. So, it's become readily accessible. But when you're watching the pornography, you know, it you need something more. >> Mhm. It's not even it's not even something I look at that often. >> Mhm. >> Like I I could probably go without it. >> Yeah. >> Especially this side of it. Um >> Yeah. How are you getting the content? Okay. Where would you say that app? Okay. And what would you do to get this kind of content off of Telegram? I Telegram's kind of new in my world, so I'm not sure how it all works. >> Telegram how typically either you got to know people or you got to ask the upfront ask about it. >> Yeah. So, it's pretty easy to get it. >> Only if you know some Only if you know people. >> Mhm. My job at this point is, you know, do a search warrant on the device. >> Right. >> See what kind of content is on there. Um and you know, if there's content I'll do a warrant. Um if there's not, obviously no warrant. Um is there anybody local like were you trading this stuff or did you just receive But you didn't send it out and share to anybody? Okay. >> According to investigators, the individual shown in this footage was employed as a school cafeteria worker at the time of the alleged incident. During deputies' initial contact, he voluntarily disclosed that he had illegal images involving minors stored on his cell phone. The case will now proceed through the court system where the charges will be formally addressed. If you value fact-based police footage and real case breakdowns, subscribe to Body Cam Stories. 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